Prove: the ratio between the areas of $ABC$ and $AB'C'$ is $AB'cdotfracAC'(AC cdot AB)$

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In the accompanying figure, i am to prove that the ratio between areas $AB'C'$ and $ABC$ is $frac(AB' cdot AC')(AC cdot AB)$. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Also, does the fact that the $B'$ and $C'$ is tangent to the inscribed circle matter here? Or could the result be generalized to any two triangles with two similar sides.










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    In the accompanying figure, i am to prove that the ratio between areas $AB'C'$ and $ABC$ is $frac(AB' cdot AC')(AC cdot AB)$. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Also, does the fact that the $B'$ and $C'$ is tangent to the inscribed circle matter here? Or could the result be generalized to any two triangles with two similar sides.










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      In the accompanying figure, i am to prove that the ratio between areas $AB'C'$ and $ABC$ is $frac(AB' cdot AC')(AC cdot AB)$. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Also, does the fact that the $B'$ and $C'$ is tangent to the inscribed circle matter here? Or could the result be generalized to any two triangles with two similar sides.










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      In the accompanying figure, i am to prove that the ratio between areas $AB'C'$ and $ABC$ is $frac(AB' cdot AC')(AC cdot AB)$. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. Also, does the fact that the $B'$ and $C'$ is tangent to the inscribed circle matter here? Or could the result be generalized to any two triangles with two similar sides.







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          I take it that a prime symbol is missing in the question (otherwise, the question is clearly false). That is, we are supposed to show that $dfracAB'cdot AC'ABcdot AC$ is the area ratio. Use the general result below with $D:=A$, $E:=B'$, and $F:=C'$.



          It is true in general that if $ABC$ and $DEF$ are triangles such that $angle BAC=angle EDF$ or $angle BAC+angle EDF=pi$, then the ratio of the area $[DEF]$ of the triangle $DEF$ by the area $[ABC]$ of the triangle $ABC$ equals
          $$frac[DEF][ABC]=fracDEcdot DFABcdot AC,.$$
          This is simply because
          $$[DEF]=frac12,DEcdot DFcdotsin(angle EDF)text and [ABC]=frac12,ABcdot ACcdotsin(angle BAC),,$$
          and $$sin(angle EDF)=sin(angle BAC)text as angle BAC=angle EDFtext or angle BAC+angle EDF=pi,.$$



          If the dot symbol in the question actually means vector dot product, then the generalization takes a slightly different form. In other words,
          $$frac[DEF][ABC]=+left(fracoverrightarrowDEcdot overrightarrowDFoverrightarrowABcdot overrightarrowACright)$$
          if $angle BAC=angle EDFneq dfracpi2$. On the other hand, if $angle BAC+angle EDF=pi$ with $angle BACneq angle EDF$, then
          $$frac[DEF][ABC]=-left(fracoverrightarrowDEcdot overrightarrowDFoverrightarrowABcdot overrightarrowACright),.$$






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          here is how I would go with a bit of dot's products. We denote by $AB$ the length of segment $AB$ and $vecAB$ the vector going from $A$ to $B$



          Using the $frac12textbasetimestextheight$ formula, the area of triangle $ABC$ is given by $leftlvert fracAB2 left( AC - fracvecABcdot vecACAB right) rightrvert=leftlvert fracAB2 left(left( fracvecACAC - fracvecABAB right)cdot vecAC right) rightrvert$



          similarly we can write the area of $AB'C'$ as $leftlvert fracAC'2 left(left( fracvecAB'AB' - fracvecAC'AC' right)cdot vecAB' right) rightrvert$. Now observe that the vectors $fracvecACAC - fracvecABAB$ and $fracvecAB'AB' - fracvecAC'AC'$ are equal, let's denote by $vecn$ this vector.



          Finally observe that $fracvecncdot vecAB'vecncdotvecAC = fracAB'AC$ since $vecAB'$ and $vecAC$ are co-linear.



          The ratio you seek is now
          beginalign*
          fracleftlvert fracAC'2 left(vecncdot vecAB' right) rightrvertleftlvert fracAB2 left(vecncdot vecAC right) rightrvert&= fracAC' cdot AB'AB cdot AC
          endalign*



          Which almost match your formula with a additional ' in for the nominator.



          If you were talking about the dot product then please add some vec for vectors.






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            Let the angle CAB be $theta$ then Area of ABC is $frac12 |AC| |AB| sin(theta)$ and Area of AB'C' is $frac12 |AB'| |AC'| sin(theta)$.
            Hence ratio is $fracAC' = fracAB cos(theta) = fracAC.ABAB'.AC' $.



            Hence the ratio is $fracAC.ABAB'.AC' $.
            Can u check your question again ?






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              I take it that a prime symbol is missing in the question (otherwise, the question is clearly false). That is, we are supposed to show that $dfracAB'cdot AC'ABcdot AC$ is the area ratio. Use the general result below with $D:=A$, $E:=B'$, and $F:=C'$.



              It is true in general that if $ABC$ and $DEF$ are triangles such that $angle BAC=angle EDF$ or $angle BAC+angle EDF=pi$, then the ratio of the area $[DEF]$ of the triangle $DEF$ by the area $[ABC]$ of the triangle $ABC$ equals
              $$frac[DEF][ABC]=fracDEcdot DFABcdot AC,.$$
              This is simply because
              $$[DEF]=frac12,DEcdot DFcdotsin(angle EDF)text and [ABC]=frac12,ABcdot ACcdotsin(angle BAC),,$$
              and $$sin(angle EDF)=sin(angle BAC)text as angle BAC=angle EDFtext or angle BAC+angle EDF=pi,.$$



              If the dot symbol in the question actually means vector dot product, then the generalization takes a slightly different form. In other words,
              $$frac[DEF][ABC]=+left(fracoverrightarrowDEcdot overrightarrowDFoverrightarrowABcdot overrightarrowACright)$$
              if $angle BAC=angle EDFneq dfracpi2$. On the other hand, if $angle BAC+angle EDF=pi$ with $angle BACneq angle EDF$, then
              $$frac[DEF][ABC]=-left(fracoverrightarrowDEcdot overrightarrowDFoverrightarrowABcdot overrightarrowACright),.$$






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              • Thank you! yes i accidentally missed out the apostrophe, and will edit it in the question now
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              I take it that a prime symbol is missing in the question (otherwise, the question is clearly false). That is, we are supposed to show that $dfracAB'cdot AC'ABcdot AC$ is the area ratio. Use the general result below with $D:=A$, $E:=B'$, and $F:=C'$.



              It is true in general that if $ABC$ and $DEF$ are triangles such that $angle BAC=angle EDF$ or $angle BAC+angle EDF=pi$, then the ratio of the area $[DEF]$ of the triangle $DEF$ by the area $[ABC]$ of the triangle $ABC$ equals
              $$frac[DEF][ABC]=fracDEcdot DFABcdot AC,.$$
              This is simply because
              $$[DEF]=frac12,DEcdot DFcdotsin(angle EDF)text and [ABC]=frac12,ABcdot ACcdotsin(angle BAC),,$$
              and $$sin(angle EDF)=sin(angle BAC)text as angle BAC=angle EDFtext or angle BAC+angle EDF=pi,.$$



              If the dot symbol in the question actually means vector dot product, then the generalization takes a slightly different form. In other words,
              $$frac[DEF][ABC]=+left(fracoverrightarrowDEcdot overrightarrowDFoverrightarrowABcdot overrightarrowACright)$$
              if $angle BAC=angle EDFneq dfracpi2$. On the other hand, if $angle BAC+angle EDF=pi$ with $angle BACneq angle EDF$, then
              $$frac[DEF][ABC]=-left(fracoverrightarrowDEcdot overrightarrowDFoverrightarrowABcdot overrightarrowACright),.$$






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              • Thank you! yes i accidentally missed out the apostrophe, and will edit it in the question now
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              I take it that a prime symbol is missing in the question (otherwise, the question is clearly false). That is, we are supposed to show that $dfracAB'cdot AC'ABcdot AC$ is the area ratio. Use the general result below with $D:=A$, $E:=B'$, and $F:=C'$.



              It is true in general that if $ABC$ and $DEF$ are triangles such that $angle BAC=angle EDF$ or $angle BAC+angle EDF=pi$, then the ratio of the area $[DEF]$ of the triangle $DEF$ by the area $[ABC]$ of the triangle $ABC$ equals
              $$frac[DEF][ABC]=fracDEcdot DFABcdot AC,.$$
              This is simply because
              $$[DEF]=frac12,DEcdot DFcdotsin(angle EDF)text and [ABC]=frac12,ABcdot ACcdotsin(angle BAC),,$$
              and $$sin(angle EDF)=sin(angle BAC)text as angle BAC=angle EDFtext or angle BAC+angle EDF=pi,.$$



              If the dot symbol in the question actually means vector dot product, then the generalization takes a slightly different form. In other words,
              $$frac[DEF][ABC]=+left(fracoverrightarrowDEcdot overrightarrowDFoverrightarrowABcdot overrightarrowACright)$$
              if $angle BAC=angle EDFneq dfracpi2$. On the other hand, if $angle BAC+angle EDF=pi$ with $angle BACneq angle EDF$, then
              $$frac[DEF][ABC]=-left(fracoverrightarrowDEcdot overrightarrowDFoverrightarrowABcdot overrightarrowACright),.$$






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              I take it that a prime symbol is missing in the question (otherwise, the question is clearly false). That is, we are supposed to show that $dfracAB'cdot AC'ABcdot AC$ is the area ratio. Use the general result below with $D:=A$, $E:=B'$, and $F:=C'$.



              It is true in general that if $ABC$ and $DEF$ are triangles such that $angle BAC=angle EDF$ or $angle BAC+angle EDF=pi$, then the ratio of the area $[DEF]$ of the triangle $DEF$ by the area $[ABC]$ of the triangle $ABC$ equals
              $$frac[DEF][ABC]=fracDEcdot DFABcdot AC,.$$
              This is simply because
              $$[DEF]=frac12,DEcdot DFcdotsin(angle EDF)text and [ABC]=frac12,ABcdot ACcdotsin(angle BAC),,$$
              and $$sin(angle EDF)=sin(angle BAC)text as angle BAC=angle EDFtext or angle BAC+angle EDF=pi,.$$



              If the dot symbol in the question actually means vector dot product, then the generalization takes a slightly different form. In other words,
              $$frac[DEF][ABC]=+left(fracoverrightarrowDEcdot overrightarrowDFoverrightarrowABcdot overrightarrowACright)$$
              if $angle BAC=angle EDFneq dfracpi2$. On the other hand, if $angle BAC+angle EDF=pi$ with $angle BACneq angle EDF$, then
              $$frac[DEF][ABC]=-left(fracoverrightarrowDEcdot overrightarrowDFoverrightarrowABcdot overrightarrowACright),.$$







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              • Thank you! yes i accidentally missed out the apostrophe, and will edit it in the question now
                – Ferguson
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              • Thank you! yes i accidentally missed out the apostrophe, and will edit it in the question now
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              Thank you! yes i accidentally missed out the apostrophe, and will edit it in the question now
              – Ferguson
              Sep 2 at 10:37





              Thank you! yes i accidentally missed out the apostrophe, and will edit it in the question now
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              here is how I would go with a bit of dot's products. We denote by $AB$ the length of segment $AB$ and $vecAB$ the vector going from $A$ to $B$



              Using the $frac12textbasetimestextheight$ formula, the area of triangle $ABC$ is given by $leftlvert fracAB2 left( AC - fracvecABcdot vecACAB right) rightrvert=leftlvert fracAB2 left(left( fracvecACAC - fracvecABAB right)cdot vecAC right) rightrvert$



              similarly we can write the area of $AB'C'$ as $leftlvert fracAC'2 left(left( fracvecAB'AB' - fracvecAC'AC' right)cdot vecAB' right) rightrvert$. Now observe that the vectors $fracvecACAC - fracvecABAB$ and $fracvecAB'AB' - fracvecAC'AC'$ are equal, let's denote by $vecn$ this vector.



              Finally observe that $fracvecncdot vecAB'vecncdotvecAC = fracAB'AC$ since $vecAB'$ and $vecAC$ are co-linear.



              The ratio you seek is now
              beginalign*
              fracleftlvert fracAC'2 left(vecncdot vecAB' right) rightrvertleftlvert fracAB2 left(vecncdot vecAC right) rightrvert&= fracAC' cdot AB'AB cdot AC
              endalign*



              Which almost match your formula with a additional ' in for the nominator.



              If you were talking about the dot product then please add some vec for vectors.






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                here is how I would go with a bit of dot's products. We denote by $AB$ the length of segment $AB$ and $vecAB$ the vector going from $A$ to $B$



                Using the $frac12textbasetimestextheight$ formula, the area of triangle $ABC$ is given by $leftlvert fracAB2 left( AC - fracvecABcdot vecACAB right) rightrvert=leftlvert fracAB2 left(left( fracvecACAC - fracvecABAB right)cdot vecAC right) rightrvert$



                similarly we can write the area of $AB'C'$ as $leftlvert fracAC'2 left(left( fracvecAB'AB' - fracvecAC'AC' right)cdot vecAB' right) rightrvert$. Now observe that the vectors $fracvecACAC - fracvecABAB$ and $fracvecAB'AB' - fracvecAC'AC'$ are equal, let's denote by $vecn$ this vector.



                Finally observe that $fracvecncdot vecAB'vecncdotvecAC = fracAB'AC$ since $vecAB'$ and $vecAC$ are co-linear.



                The ratio you seek is now
                beginalign*
                fracleftlvert fracAC'2 left(vecncdot vecAB' right) rightrvertleftlvert fracAB2 left(vecncdot vecAC right) rightrvert&= fracAC' cdot AB'AB cdot AC
                endalign*



                Which almost match your formula with a additional ' in for the nominator.



                If you were talking about the dot product then please add some vec for vectors.






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                  here is how I would go with a bit of dot's products. We denote by $AB$ the length of segment $AB$ and $vecAB$ the vector going from $A$ to $B$



                  Using the $frac12textbasetimestextheight$ formula, the area of triangle $ABC$ is given by $leftlvert fracAB2 left( AC - fracvecABcdot vecACAB right) rightrvert=leftlvert fracAB2 left(left( fracvecACAC - fracvecABAB right)cdot vecAC right) rightrvert$



                  similarly we can write the area of $AB'C'$ as $leftlvert fracAC'2 left(left( fracvecAB'AB' - fracvecAC'AC' right)cdot vecAB' right) rightrvert$. Now observe that the vectors $fracvecACAC - fracvecABAB$ and $fracvecAB'AB' - fracvecAC'AC'$ are equal, let's denote by $vecn$ this vector.



                  Finally observe that $fracvecncdot vecAB'vecncdotvecAC = fracAB'AC$ since $vecAB'$ and $vecAC$ are co-linear.



                  The ratio you seek is now
                  beginalign*
                  fracleftlvert fracAC'2 left(vecncdot vecAB' right) rightrvertleftlvert fracAB2 left(vecncdot vecAC right) rightrvert&= fracAC' cdot AB'AB cdot AC
                  endalign*



                  Which almost match your formula with a additional ' in for the nominator.



                  If you were talking about the dot product then please add some vec for vectors.






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                  here is how I would go with a bit of dot's products. We denote by $AB$ the length of segment $AB$ and $vecAB$ the vector going from $A$ to $B$



                  Using the $frac12textbasetimestextheight$ formula, the area of triangle $ABC$ is given by $leftlvert fracAB2 left( AC - fracvecABcdot vecACAB right) rightrvert=leftlvert fracAB2 left(left( fracvecACAC - fracvecABAB right)cdot vecAC right) rightrvert$



                  similarly we can write the area of $AB'C'$ as $leftlvert fracAC'2 left(left( fracvecAB'AB' - fracvecAC'AC' right)cdot vecAB' right) rightrvert$. Now observe that the vectors $fracvecACAC - fracvecABAB$ and $fracvecAB'AB' - fracvecAC'AC'$ are equal, let's denote by $vecn$ this vector.



                  Finally observe that $fracvecncdot vecAB'vecncdotvecAC = fracAB'AC$ since $vecAB'$ and $vecAC$ are co-linear.



                  The ratio you seek is now
                  beginalign*
                  fracleftlvert fracAC'2 left(vecncdot vecAB' right) rightrvertleftlvert fracAB2 left(vecncdot vecAC right) rightrvert&= fracAC' cdot AB'AB cdot AC
                  endalign*



                  Which almost match your formula with a additional ' in for the nominator.



                  If you were talking about the dot product then please add some vec for vectors.







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                      Let the angle CAB be $theta$ then Area of ABC is $frac12 |AC| |AB| sin(theta)$ and Area of AB'C' is $frac12 |AB'| |AC'| sin(theta)$.
                      Hence ratio is $fracAC' = fracAB cos(theta) = fracAC.ABAB'.AC' $.



                      Hence the ratio is $fracAC.ABAB'.AC' $.
                      Can u check your question again ?






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                        Let the angle CAB be $theta$ then Area of ABC is $frac12 |AC| |AB| sin(theta)$ and Area of AB'C' is $frac12 |AB'| |AC'| sin(theta)$.
                        Hence ratio is $fracAC' = fracAB cos(theta) = fracAC.ABAB'.AC' $.



                        Hence the ratio is $fracAC.ABAB'.AC' $.
                        Can u check your question again ?






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                          Let the angle CAB be $theta$ then Area of ABC is $frac12 |AC| |AB| sin(theta)$ and Area of AB'C' is $frac12 |AB'| |AC'| sin(theta)$.
                          Hence ratio is $fracAC' = fracAB cos(theta) = fracAC.ABAB'.AC' $.



                          Hence the ratio is $fracAC.ABAB'.AC' $.
                          Can u check your question again ?






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                          Let the angle CAB be $theta$ then Area of ABC is $frac12 |AC| |AB| sin(theta)$ and Area of AB'C' is $frac12 |AB'| |AC'| sin(theta)$.
                          Hence ratio is $fracAC' = fracAB cos(theta) = fracAC.ABAB'.AC' $.



                          Hence the ratio is $fracAC.ABAB'.AC' $.
                          Can u check your question again ?







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