Prove $n+1$ vectors in $P_n(BbbF)$ with the specific condition is not linearly independent
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Let $p_0,p_1,ldots,p_n$ is polynomials in $P_n(BbbF)$ such that $p_i(2)=0$ for every $iin0,1,ldots,n$. Prove that $p_0,p_1,ldots,p_n$ is not linearly independent in $P_n(BbbF)$.
I saw that $p_0(x)=0$ if we want $p_0(2)=0$, since one vector is zero vector ,then that vectors is linear dependent. What do you think about this proof?
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Let $p_0,p_1,ldots,p_n$ is polynomials in $P_n(BbbF)$ such that $p_i(2)=0$ for every $iin0,1,ldots,n$. Prove that $p_0,p_1,ldots,p_n$ is not linearly independent in $P_n(BbbF)$.
I saw that $p_0(x)=0$ if we want $p_0(2)=0$, since one vector is zero vector ,then that vectors is linear dependent. What do you think about this proof?
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Why $p_0 = 0$? Maybe something about $p_j$ is missing?
â xbh
Sep 2 at 8:23
if $p0not=0$ then you have $p0=a$ where $ainmathbb R$ if you put p0(2)=a so that does not belong to that vectors that i write $p(2)=0$,
â Marko à  koriÃÂ
Sep 2 at 8:29
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Then some assumptions about $p_j$ are missing. Please edit your question and add them.
â xbh
Sep 2 at 8:30
Did you see that I put that for every polynomials $p(2)=0$ can you write some polynom such that $p_0(2)=0$? Write that polynom and prove that is zero for 2
â Marko à  koriÃÂ
Sep 2 at 8:33
@Markoà  koriàHow about $p_0(X)=X^5-32$ (assuming $nge 5$)?
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Let $p_0,p_1,ldots,p_n$ is polynomials in $P_n(BbbF)$ such that $p_i(2)=0$ for every $iin0,1,ldots,n$. Prove that $p_0,p_1,ldots,p_n$ is not linearly independent in $P_n(BbbF)$.
I saw that $p_0(x)=0$ if we want $p_0(2)=0$, since one vector is zero vector ,then that vectors is linear dependent. What do you think about this proof?
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Let $p_0,p_1,ldots,p_n$ is polynomials in $P_n(BbbF)$ such that $p_i(2)=0$ for every $iin0,1,ldots,n$. Prove that $p_0,p_1,ldots,p_n$ is not linearly independent in $P_n(BbbF)$.
I saw that $p_0(x)=0$ if we want $p_0(2)=0$, since one vector is zero vector ,then that vectors is linear dependent. What do you think about this proof?
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Why $p_0 = 0$? Maybe something about $p_j$ is missing?
â xbh
Sep 2 at 8:23
if $p0not=0$ then you have $p0=a$ where $ainmathbb R$ if you put p0(2)=a so that does not belong to that vectors that i write $p(2)=0$,
â Marko à  koriÃÂ
Sep 2 at 8:29
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Then some assumptions about $p_j$ are missing. Please edit your question and add them.
â xbh
Sep 2 at 8:30
Did you see that I put that for every polynomials $p(2)=0$ can you write some polynom such that $p_0(2)=0$? Write that polynom and prove that is zero for 2
â Marko à  koriÃÂ
Sep 2 at 8:33
@Markoà  koriàHow about $p_0(X)=X^5-32$ (assuming $nge 5$)?
â Hagen von Eitzen
Sep 2 at 8:34
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Why $p_0 = 0$? Maybe something about $p_j$ is missing?
â xbh
Sep 2 at 8:23
if $p0not=0$ then you have $p0=a$ where $ainmathbb R$ if you put p0(2)=a so that does not belong to that vectors that i write $p(2)=0$,
â Marko à  koriÃÂ
Sep 2 at 8:29
1
Then some assumptions about $p_j$ are missing. Please edit your question and add them.
â xbh
Sep 2 at 8:30
Did you see that I put that for every polynomials $p(2)=0$ can you write some polynom such that $p_0(2)=0$? Write that polynom and prove that is zero for 2
â Marko à  koriÃÂ
Sep 2 at 8:33
@Markoà  koriàHow about $p_0(X)=X^5-32$ (assuming $nge 5$)?
â Hagen von Eitzen
Sep 2 at 8:34
Why $p_0 = 0$? Maybe something about $p_j$ is missing?
â xbh
Sep 2 at 8:23
Why $p_0 = 0$? Maybe something about $p_j$ is missing?
â xbh
Sep 2 at 8:23
if $p0not=0$ then you have $p0=a$ where $ainmathbb R$ if you put p0(2)=a so that does not belong to that vectors that i write $p(2)=0$,
â Marko à  koriÃÂ
Sep 2 at 8:29
if $p0not=0$ then you have $p0=a$ where $ainmathbb R$ if you put p0(2)=a so that does not belong to that vectors that i write $p(2)=0$,
â Marko à  koriÃÂ
Sep 2 at 8:29
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Then some assumptions about $p_j$ are missing. Please edit your question and add them.
â xbh
Sep 2 at 8:30
Then some assumptions about $p_j$ are missing. Please edit your question and add them.
â xbh
Sep 2 at 8:30
Did you see that I put that for every polynomials $p(2)=0$ can you write some polynom such that $p_0(2)=0$? Write that polynom and prove that is zero for 2
â Marko à  koriÃÂ
Sep 2 at 8:33
Did you see that I put that for every polynomials $p(2)=0$ can you write some polynom such that $p_0(2)=0$? Write that polynom and prove that is zero for 2
â Marko à  koriÃÂ
Sep 2 at 8:33
@Markoà  koriàHow about $p_0(X)=X^5-32$ (assuming $nge 5$)?
â Hagen von Eitzen
Sep 2 at 8:34
@Markoà  koriàHow about $p_0(X)=X^5-32$ (assuming $nge 5$)?
â Hagen von Eitzen
Sep 2 at 8:34
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For any $i in 0, ldots, n$, since $p_i(2) = 0$ there exists $q_i in P_n-1(mathbbF)$ such that $p_i(x) = (x-2)q_i(x)$.
We have $dim P_n-1(mathbbF) = n$ so the set $q_1, ldots, q_n subseteq P_n-1(mathbbF)$ is linearly dependent. Therefore, there exists scalars $alpha_0, ldots, alpha_n in mathbbF$ not all equal to $0$ such that $sum_i=0^n alpha_i q_i(x) = 0$.
Then $$sum_i=0^n alpha_ip_i(x) = sum_i=0^n alpha_i (x-2)q_i(x) = (x-2) left(sum_i=0^n alpha_i q_i(x)right) = 0$$
so $p_0, ldots, p_n$ is linearly dependent in $P_n(mathbbF)$.
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Suppose it is linearly independent, then it forms a basis for $P_n$, since $textdim(P_n)=n+1=Bigvert p_0,p_1,...,p_n Bigvert$
Is all members of $P_n$ are in $textSpanp_0,p_1,...,p_n$ ?
Answer: (Think about constant polynomials)
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Hint: $dim P_n=n+1$, hence $n+1$ linearly independent vectors would be a bassis and hence span all of $P_n$.
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For any $i in 0, ldots, n$, since $p_i(2) = 0$ there exists $q_i in P_n-1(mathbbF)$ such that $p_i(x) = (x-2)q_i(x)$.
We have $dim P_n-1(mathbbF) = n$ so the set $q_1, ldots, q_n subseteq P_n-1(mathbbF)$ is linearly dependent. Therefore, there exists scalars $alpha_0, ldots, alpha_n in mathbbF$ not all equal to $0$ such that $sum_i=0^n alpha_i q_i(x) = 0$.
Then $$sum_i=0^n alpha_ip_i(x) = sum_i=0^n alpha_i (x-2)q_i(x) = (x-2) left(sum_i=0^n alpha_i q_i(x)right) = 0$$
so $p_0, ldots, p_n$ is linearly dependent in $P_n(mathbbF)$.
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For any $i in 0, ldots, n$, since $p_i(2) = 0$ there exists $q_i in P_n-1(mathbbF)$ such that $p_i(x) = (x-2)q_i(x)$.
We have $dim P_n-1(mathbbF) = n$ so the set $q_1, ldots, q_n subseteq P_n-1(mathbbF)$ is linearly dependent. Therefore, there exists scalars $alpha_0, ldots, alpha_n in mathbbF$ not all equal to $0$ such that $sum_i=0^n alpha_i q_i(x) = 0$.
Then $$sum_i=0^n alpha_ip_i(x) = sum_i=0^n alpha_i (x-2)q_i(x) = (x-2) left(sum_i=0^n alpha_i q_i(x)right) = 0$$
so $p_0, ldots, p_n$ is linearly dependent in $P_n(mathbbF)$.
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For any $i in 0, ldots, n$, since $p_i(2) = 0$ there exists $q_i in P_n-1(mathbbF)$ such that $p_i(x) = (x-2)q_i(x)$.
We have $dim P_n-1(mathbbF) = n$ so the set $q_1, ldots, q_n subseteq P_n-1(mathbbF)$ is linearly dependent. Therefore, there exists scalars $alpha_0, ldots, alpha_n in mathbbF$ not all equal to $0$ such that $sum_i=0^n alpha_i q_i(x) = 0$.
Then $$sum_i=0^n alpha_ip_i(x) = sum_i=0^n alpha_i (x-2)q_i(x) = (x-2) left(sum_i=0^n alpha_i q_i(x)right) = 0$$
so $p_0, ldots, p_n$ is linearly dependent in $P_n(mathbbF)$.
For any $i in 0, ldots, n$, since $p_i(2) = 0$ there exists $q_i in P_n-1(mathbbF)$ such that $p_i(x) = (x-2)q_i(x)$.
We have $dim P_n-1(mathbbF) = n$ so the set $q_1, ldots, q_n subseteq P_n-1(mathbbF)$ is linearly dependent. Therefore, there exists scalars $alpha_0, ldots, alpha_n in mathbbF$ not all equal to $0$ such that $sum_i=0^n alpha_i q_i(x) = 0$.
Then $$sum_i=0^n alpha_ip_i(x) = sum_i=0^n alpha_i (x-2)q_i(x) = (x-2) left(sum_i=0^n alpha_i q_i(x)right) = 0$$
so $p_0, ldots, p_n$ is linearly dependent in $P_n(mathbbF)$.
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Suppose it is linearly independent, then it forms a basis for $P_n$, since $textdim(P_n)=n+1=Bigvert p_0,p_1,...,p_n Bigvert$
Is all members of $P_n$ are in $textSpanp_0,p_1,...,p_n$ ?
Answer: (Think about constant polynomials)
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Suppose it is linearly independent, then it forms a basis for $P_n$, since $textdim(P_n)=n+1=Bigvert p_0,p_1,...,p_n Bigvert$
Is all members of $P_n$ are in $textSpanp_0,p_1,...,p_n$ ?
Answer: (Think about constant polynomials)
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Suppose it is linearly independent, then it forms a basis for $P_n$, since $textdim(P_n)=n+1=Bigvert p_0,p_1,...,p_n Bigvert$
Is all members of $P_n$ are in $textSpanp_0,p_1,...,p_n$ ?
Answer: (Think about constant polynomials)
Suppose it is linearly independent, then it forms a basis for $P_n$, since $textdim(P_n)=n+1=Bigvert p_0,p_1,...,p_n Bigvert$
Is all members of $P_n$ are in $textSpanp_0,p_1,...,p_n$ ?
Answer: (Think about constant polynomials)
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Hint: $dim P_n=n+1$, hence $n+1$ linearly independent vectors would be a bassis and hence span all of $P_n$.
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Hint: $dim P_n=n+1$, hence $n+1$ linearly independent vectors would be a bassis and hence span all of $P_n$.
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Hint: $dim P_n=n+1$, hence $n+1$ linearly independent vectors would be a bassis and hence span all of $P_n$.
Hint: $dim P_n=n+1$, hence $n+1$ linearly independent vectors would be a bassis and hence span all of $P_n$.
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Why $p_0 = 0$? Maybe something about $p_j$ is missing?
â xbh
Sep 2 at 8:23
if $p0not=0$ then you have $p0=a$ where $ainmathbb R$ if you put p0(2)=a so that does not belong to that vectors that i write $p(2)=0$,
â Marko à  koriÃÂ
Sep 2 at 8:29
1
Then some assumptions about $p_j$ are missing. Please edit your question and add them.
â xbh
Sep 2 at 8:30
Did you see that I put that for every polynomials $p(2)=0$ can you write some polynom such that $p_0(2)=0$? Write that polynom and prove that is zero for 2
â Marko à  koriÃÂ
Sep 2 at 8:33
@Markoà  koriàHow about $p_0(X)=X^5-32$ (assuming $nge 5$)?
â Hagen von Eitzen
Sep 2 at 8:34