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I am learning Khan Academy Calculus, specifically how to tell when the graph of a function is differentiable or not. Khan Academy tells me that a point on the graph of is not differentiable when:
But I don't get why 2. and 3. are true. For 2, say we have a vertical tangent line for function 1/x^2
Would it not be continuous here? And therefore, wouldn't there be at least the chance that it's differentiable? Can someone please explain to me why a function is never differentiable at the vertical asymptote?
For 3, why would a function not be differentiable when it has a sharp turn? I don't get this either. Can someone please explain?
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I am learning Khan Academy Calculus, specifically how to tell when the graph of a function is differentiable or not. Khan Academy tells me that a point on the graph of is not differentiable when:
But I don't get why 2. and 3. are true. For 2, say we have a vertical tangent line for function 1/x^2
Would it not be continuous here? And therefore, wouldn't there be at least the chance that it's differentiable? Can someone please explain to me why a function is never differentiable at the vertical asymptote?
For 3, why would a function not be differentiable when it has a sharp turn? I don't get this either. Can someone please explain?
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For 2. Do you the slope of a vertical line? For 3. $lim_a^- f'(x)neqlim_a^+ f'(x)$ which is the basic condition for differentiability.
â prog_SAHIL
Sep 2 at 10:11
At $x=0$ the function isnâÂÂt defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words âÂÂ$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$â isnâÂÂt even a statement at all, so it couldnâÂÂt be either wrong or false.
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Sep 2 at 10:18
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I am learning Khan Academy Calculus, specifically how to tell when the graph of a function is differentiable or not. Khan Academy tells me that a point on the graph of is not differentiable when:
But I don't get why 2. and 3. are true. For 2, say we have a vertical tangent line for function 1/x^2
Would it not be continuous here? And therefore, wouldn't there be at least the chance that it's differentiable? Can someone please explain to me why a function is never differentiable at the vertical asymptote?
For 3, why would a function not be differentiable when it has a sharp turn? I don't get this either. Can someone please explain?
calculus derivatives continuity
I am learning Khan Academy Calculus, specifically how to tell when the graph of a function is differentiable or not. Khan Academy tells me that a point on the graph of is not differentiable when:
But I don't get why 2. and 3. are true. For 2, say we have a vertical tangent line for function 1/x^2
Would it not be continuous here? And therefore, wouldn't there be at least the chance that it's differentiable? Can someone please explain to me why a function is never differentiable at the vertical asymptote?
For 3, why would a function not be differentiable when it has a sharp turn? I don't get this either. Can someone please explain?
calculus derivatives continuity
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For 2. Do you the slope of a vertical line? For 3. $lim_a^- f'(x)neqlim_a^+ f'(x)$ which is the basic condition for differentiability.
â prog_SAHIL
Sep 2 at 10:11
At $x=0$ the function isnâÂÂt defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words âÂÂ$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$â isnâÂÂt even a statement at all, so it couldnâÂÂt be either wrong or false.
â Michael Hoppe
Sep 2 at 10:18
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For 2. Do you the slope of a vertical line? For 3. $lim_a^- f'(x)neqlim_a^+ f'(x)$ which is the basic condition for differentiability.
â prog_SAHIL
Sep 2 at 10:11
At $x=0$ the function isnâÂÂt defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words âÂÂ$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$â isnâÂÂt even a statement at all, so it couldnâÂÂt be either wrong or false.
â Michael Hoppe
Sep 2 at 10:18
For 2. Do you the slope of a vertical line? For 3. $lim_a^- f'(x)neqlim_a^+ f'(x)$ which is the basic condition for differentiability.
â prog_SAHIL
Sep 2 at 10:11
For 2. Do you the slope of a vertical line? For 3. $lim_a^- f'(x)neqlim_a^+ f'(x)$ which is the basic condition for differentiability.
â prog_SAHIL
Sep 2 at 10:11
At $x=0$ the function isnâÂÂt defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words âÂÂ$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$â isnâÂÂt even a statement at all, so it couldnâÂÂt be either wrong or false.
â Michael Hoppe
Sep 2 at 10:18
At $x=0$ the function isnâÂÂt defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words âÂÂ$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$â isnâÂÂt even a statement at all, so it couldnâÂÂt be either wrong or false.
â Michael Hoppe
Sep 2 at 10:18
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For your given function $f(x)=frac1x^2$ this is not differentiable at 0 since the function isn't even continuous there since at 0 it is undefined. It approaches infinity from either side leading to a infinite gradient on either side but AT 0 it does not exist.
For (3) I would think a better way of saying this is a 'kink' for example take $f(x)=|x|$. This is not differentiable at 0 since from 0+ we have gradient 1, and -1 from 0-. Or you can think about drawing lots of tangents at the kink, they all look like tangents but are a all different lines so it is not differentiable.
Oh right. Okay last question. How about for 3? Why would a function not be differentiable when there's a "sharp turn"?
â Ethan Chan
Sep 2 at 10:13
This is explained above, a very sharp turn means i can find lots of tangent lines so it would not be differentiable.
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Sep 2 at 10:15
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Okay thanks. I'll accept this answer in a minute.
â Ethan Chan
Sep 2 at 10:18
Also, we want the limit to exist that is f(x)-f(0)/x as x goes to 0. That is why f(0) existing is necessary.
â Fundamentals
Sep 2 at 10:23
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At $x=0$ the function isnâÂÂt defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words âÂÂ$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$.â isnâÂÂt even a statement at all, so it can be neither wrong nor right.
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For your given function $f(x)=frac1x^2$ this is not differentiable at 0 since the function isn't even continuous there since at 0 it is undefined. It approaches infinity from either side leading to a infinite gradient on either side but AT 0 it does not exist.
For (3) I would think a better way of saying this is a 'kink' for example take $f(x)=|x|$. This is not differentiable at 0 since from 0+ we have gradient 1, and -1 from 0-. Or you can think about drawing lots of tangents at the kink, they all look like tangents but are a all different lines so it is not differentiable.
Oh right. Okay last question. How about for 3? Why would a function not be differentiable when there's a "sharp turn"?
â Ethan Chan
Sep 2 at 10:13
This is explained above, a very sharp turn means i can find lots of tangent lines so it would not be differentiable.
â Fundamentals
Sep 2 at 10:15
1
Okay thanks. I'll accept this answer in a minute.
â Ethan Chan
Sep 2 at 10:18
Also, we want the limit to exist that is f(x)-f(0)/x as x goes to 0. That is why f(0) existing is necessary.
â Fundamentals
Sep 2 at 10:23
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For your given function $f(x)=frac1x^2$ this is not differentiable at 0 since the function isn't even continuous there since at 0 it is undefined. It approaches infinity from either side leading to a infinite gradient on either side but AT 0 it does not exist.
For (3) I would think a better way of saying this is a 'kink' for example take $f(x)=|x|$. This is not differentiable at 0 since from 0+ we have gradient 1, and -1 from 0-. Or you can think about drawing lots of tangents at the kink, they all look like tangents but are a all different lines so it is not differentiable.
Oh right. Okay last question. How about for 3? Why would a function not be differentiable when there's a "sharp turn"?
â Ethan Chan
Sep 2 at 10:13
This is explained above, a very sharp turn means i can find lots of tangent lines so it would not be differentiable.
â Fundamentals
Sep 2 at 10:15
1
Okay thanks. I'll accept this answer in a minute.
â Ethan Chan
Sep 2 at 10:18
Also, we want the limit to exist that is f(x)-f(0)/x as x goes to 0. That is why f(0) existing is necessary.
â Fundamentals
Sep 2 at 10:23
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For your given function $f(x)=frac1x^2$ this is not differentiable at 0 since the function isn't even continuous there since at 0 it is undefined. It approaches infinity from either side leading to a infinite gradient on either side but AT 0 it does not exist.
For (3) I would think a better way of saying this is a 'kink' for example take $f(x)=|x|$. This is not differentiable at 0 since from 0+ we have gradient 1, and -1 from 0-. Or you can think about drawing lots of tangents at the kink, they all look like tangents but are a all different lines so it is not differentiable.
For your given function $f(x)=frac1x^2$ this is not differentiable at 0 since the function isn't even continuous there since at 0 it is undefined. It approaches infinity from either side leading to a infinite gradient on either side but AT 0 it does not exist.
For (3) I would think a better way of saying this is a 'kink' for example take $f(x)=|x|$. This is not differentiable at 0 since from 0+ we have gradient 1, and -1 from 0-. Or you can think about drawing lots of tangents at the kink, they all look like tangents but are a all different lines so it is not differentiable.
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Oh right. Okay last question. How about for 3? Why would a function not be differentiable when there's a "sharp turn"?
â Ethan Chan
Sep 2 at 10:13
This is explained above, a very sharp turn means i can find lots of tangent lines so it would not be differentiable.
â Fundamentals
Sep 2 at 10:15
1
Okay thanks. I'll accept this answer in a minute.
â Ethan Chan
Sep 2 at 10:18
Also, we want the limit to exist that is f(x)-f(0)/x as x goes to 0. That is why f(0) existing is necessary.
â Fundamentals
Sep 2 at 10:23
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Oh right. Okay last question. How about for 3? Why would a function not be differentiable when there's a "sharp turn"?
â Ethan Chan
Sep 2 at 10:13
This is explained above, a very sharp turn means i can find lots of tangent lines so it would not be differentiable.
â Fundamentals
Sep 2 at 10:15
1
Okay thanks. I'll accept this answer in a minute.
â Ethan Chan
Sep 2 at 10:18
Also, we want the limit to exist that is f(x)-f(0)/x as x goes to 0. That is why f(0) existing is necessary.
â Fundamentals
Sep 2 at 10:23
Oh right. Okay last question. How about for 3? Why would a function not be differentiable when there's a "sharp turn"?
â Ethan Chan
Sep 2 at 10:13
Oh right. Okay last question. How about for 3? Why would a function not be differentiable when there's a "sharp turn"?
â Ethan Chan
Sep 2 at 10:13
This is explained above, a very sharp turn means i can find lots of tangent lines so it would not be differentiable.
â Fundamentals
Sep 2 at 10:15
This is explained above, a very sharp turn means i can find lots of tangent lines so it would not be differentiable.
â Fundamentals
Sep 2 at 10:15
1
1
Okay thanks. I'll accept this answer in a minute.
â Ethan Chan
Sep 2 at 10:18
Okay thanks. I'll accept this answer in a minute.
â Ethan Chan
Sep 2 at 10:18
Also, we want the limit to exist that is f(x)-f(0)/x as x goes to 0. That is why f(0) existing is necessary.
â Fundamentals
Sep 2 at 10:23
Also, we want the limit to exist that is f(x)-f(0)/x as x goes to 0. That is why f(0) existing is necessary.
â Fundamentals
Sep 2 at 10:23
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At $x=0$ the function isnâÂÂt defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words âÂÂ$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$.â isnâÂÂt even a statement at all, so it can be neither wrong nor right.
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At $x=0$ the function isnâÂÂt defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words âÂÂ$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$.â isnâÂÂt even a statement at all, so it can be neither wrong nor right.
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At $x=0$ the function isnâÂÂt defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words âÂÂ$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$.â isnâÂÂt even a statement at all, so it can be neither wrong nor right.
At $x=0$ the function isnâÂÂt defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words âÂÂ$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$.â isnâÂÂt even a statement at all, so it can be neither wrong nor right.
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For 2. Do you the slope of a vertical line? For 3. $lim_a^- f'(x)neqlim_a^+ f'(x)$ which is the basic condition for differentiability.
â prog_SAHIL
Sep 2 at 10:11
At $x=0$ the function isnâÂÂt defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words âÂÂ$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$â isnâÂÂt even a statement at all, so it couldnâÂÂt be either wrong or false.
â Michael Hoppe
Sep 2 at 10:18