On Differentiable Functions (Khan Academy)

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I am learning Khan Academy Calculus, specifically how to tell when the graph of a function is differentiable or not. Khan Academy tells me that a point on the graph of is not differentiable when:
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But I don't get why 2. and 3. are true. For 2, say we have a vertical tangent line for function 1/x^2 enter image description here



Would it not be continuous here? And therefore, wouldn't there be at least the chance that it's differentiable? Can someone please explain to me why a function is never differentiable at the vertical asymptote?



For 3, why would a function not be differentiable when it has a sharp turn? I don't get this either. Can someone please explain?










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  • For 2. Do you the slope of a vertical line? For 3. $lim_a^- f'(x)neqlim_a^+ f'(x)$ which is the basic condition for differentiability.
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  • At $x=0$ the function isn’t defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words “$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$” isn’t even a statement at all, so it couldn’t be either wrong or false.
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I am learning Khan Academy Calculus, specifically how to tell when the graph of a function is differentiable or not. Khan Academy tells me that a point on the graph of is not differentiable when:
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But I don't get why 2. and 3. are true. For 2, say we have a vertical tangent line for function 1/x^2 enter image description here



Would it not be continuous here? And therefore, wouldn't there be at least the chance that it's differentiable? Can someone please explain to me why a function is never differentiable at the vertical asymptote?



For 3, why would a function not be differentiable when it has a sharp turn? I don't get this either. Can someone please explain?










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  • For 2. Do you the slope of a vertical line? For 3. $lim_a^- f'(x)neqlim_a^+ f'(x)$ which is the basic condition for differentiability.
    – prog_SAHIL
    Sep 2 at 10:11











  • At $x=0$ the function isn’t defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words “$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$” isn’t even a statement at all, so it couldn’t be either wrong or false.
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    Sep 2 at 10:18












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I am learning Khan Academy Calculus, specifically how to tell when the graph of a function is differentiable or not. Khan Academy tells me that a point on the graph of is not differentiable when:
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But I don't get why 2. and 3. are true. For 2, say we have a vertical tangent line for function 1/x^2 enter image description here



Would it not be continuous here? And therefore, wouldn't there be at least the chance that it's differentiable? Can someone please explain to me why a function is never differentiable at the vertical asymptote?



For 3, why would a function not be differentiable when it has a sharp turn? I don't get this either. Can someone please explain?










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I am learning Khan Academy Calculus, specifically how to tell when the graph of a function is differentiable or not. Khan Academy tells me that a point on the graph of is not differentiable when:
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But I don't get why 2. and 3. are true. For 2, say we have a vertical tangent line for function 1/x^2 enter image description here



Would it not be continuous here? And therefore, wouldn't there be at least the chance that it's differentiable? Can someone please explain to me why a function is never differentiable at the vertical asymptote?



For 3, why would a function not be differentiable when it has a sharp turn? I don't get this either. Can someone please explain?







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  • For 2. Do you the slope of a vertical line? For 3. $lim_a^- f'(x)neqlim_a^+ f'(x)$ which is the basic condition for differentiability.
    – prog_SAHIL
    Sep 2 at 10:11











  • At $x=0$ the function isn’t defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words “$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$” isn’t even a statement at all, so it couldn’t be either wrong or false.
    – Michael Hoppe
    Sep 2 at 10:18
















  • For 2. Do you the slope of a vertical line? For 3. $lim_a^- f'(x)neqlim_a^+ f'(x)$ which is the basic condition for differentiability.
    – prog_SAHIL
    Sep 2 at 10:11











  • At $x=0$ the function isn’t defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words “$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$” isn’t even a statement at all, so it couldn’t be either wrong or false.
    – Michael Hoppe
    Sep 2 at 10:18















For 2. Do you the slope of a vertical line? For 3. $lim_a^- f'(x)neqlim_a^+ f'(x)$ which is the basic condition for differentiability.
– prog_SAHIL
Sep 2 at 10:11





For 2. Do you the slope of a vertical line? For 3. $lim_a^- f'(x)neqlim_a^+ f'(x)$ which is the basic condition for differentiability.
– prog_SAHIL
Sep 2 at 10:11













At $x=0$ the function isn’t defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words “$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$” isn’t even a statement at all, so it couldn’t be either wrong or false.
– Michael Hoppe
Sep 2 at 10:18




At $x=0$ the function isn’t defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words “$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$” isn’t even a statement at all, so it couldn’t be either wrong or false.
– Michael Hoppe
Sep 2 at 10:18










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For your given function $f(x)=frac1x^2$ this is not differentiable at 0 since the function isn't even continuous there since at 0 it is undefined. It approaches infinity from either side leading to a infinite gradient on either side but AT 0 it does not exist.
For (3) I would think a better way of saying this is a 'kink' for example take $f(x)=|x|$. This is not differentiable at 0 since from 0+ we have gradient 1, and -1 from 0-. Or you can think about drawing lots of tangents at the kink, they all look like tangents but are a all different lines so it is not differentiable.






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  • Oh right. Okay last question. How about for 3? Why would a function not be differentiable when there's a "sharp turn"?
    – Ethan Chan
    Sep 2 at 10:13










  • This is explained above, a very sharp turn means i can find lots of tangent lines so it would not be differentiable.
    – Fundamentals
    Sep 2 at 10:15






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    Okay thanks. I'll accept this answer in a minute.
    – Ethan Chan
    Sep 2 at 10:18










  • Also, we want the limit to exist that is f(x)-f(0)/x as x goes to 0. That is why f(0) existing is necessary.
    – Fundamentals
    Sep 2 at 10:23

















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At $x=0$ the function isn’t defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words “$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$.” isn’t even a statement at all, so it can be neither wrong nor right.






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    For your given function $f(x)=frac1x^2$ this is not differentiable at 0 since the function isn't even continuous there since at 0 it is undefined. It approaches infinity from either side leading to a infinite gradient on either side but AT 0 it does not exist.
    For (3) I would think a better way of saying this is a 'kink' for example take $f(x)=|x|$. This is not differentiable at 0 since from 0+ we have gradient 1, and -1 from 0-. Or you can think about drawing lots of tangents at the kink, they all look like tangents but are a all different lines so it is not differentiable.






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    • Oh right. Okay last question. How about for 3? Why would a function not be differentiable when there's a "sharp turn"?
      – Ethan Chan
      Sep 2 at 10:13










    • This is explained above, a very sharp turn means i can find lots of tangent lines so it would not be differentiable.
      – Fundamentals
      Sep 2 at 10:15






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      Okay thanks. I'll accept this answer in a minute.
      – Ethan Chan
      Sep 2 at 10:18










    • Also, we want the limit to exist that is f(x)-f(0)/x as x goes to 0. That is why f(0) existing is necessary.
      – Fundamentals
      Sep 2 at 10:23














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    For your given function $f(x)=frac1x^2$ this is not differentiable at 0 since the function isn't even continuous there since at 0 it is undefined. It approaches infinity from either side leading to a infinite gradient on either side but AT 0 it does not exist.
    For (3) I would think a better way of saying this is a 'kink' for example take $f(x)=|x|$. This is not differentiable at 0 since from 0+ we have gradient 1, and -1 from 0-. Or you can think about drawing lots of tangents at the kink, they all look like tangents but are a all different lines so it is not differentiable.






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    • Oh right. Okay last question. How about for 3? Why would a function not be differentiable when there's a "sharp turn"?
      – Ethan Chan
      Sep 2 at 10:13










    • This is explained above, a very sharp turn means i can find lots of tangent lines so it would not be differentiable.
      – Fundamentals
      Sep 2 at 10:15






    • 1




      Okay thanks. I'll accept this answer in a minute.
      – Ethan Chan
      Sep 2 at 10:18










    • Also, we want the limit to exist that is f(x)-f(0)/x as x goes to 0. That is why f(0) existing is necessary.
      – Fundamentals
      Sep 2 at 10:23












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    For your given function $f(x)=frac1x^2$ this is not differentiable at 0 since the function isn't even continuous there since at 0 it is undefined. It approaches infinity from either side leading to a infinite gradient on either side but AT 0 it does not exist.
    For (3) I would think a better way of saying this is a 'kink' for example take $f(x)=|x|$. This is not differentiable at 0 since from 0+ we have gradient 1, and -1 from 0-. Or you can think about drawing lots of tangents at the kink, they all look like tangents but are a all different lines so it is not differentiable.






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    For your given function $f(x)=frac1x^2$ this is not differentiable at 0 since the function isn't even continuous there since at 0 it is undefined. It approaches infinity from either side leading to a infinite gradient on either side but AT 0 it does not exist.
    For (3) I would think a better way of saying this is a 'kink' for example take $f(x)=|x|$. This is not differentiable at 0 since from 0+ we have gradient 1, and -1 from 0-. Or you can think about drawing lots of tangents at the kink, they all look like tangents but are a all different lines so it is not differentiable.







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    • Oh right. Okay last question. How about for 3? Why would a function not be differentiable when there's a "sharp turn"?
      – Ethan Chan
      Sep 2 at 10:13










    • This is explained above, a very sharp turn means i can find lots of tangent lines so it would not be differentiable.
      – Fundamentals
      Sep 2 at 10:15






    • 1




      Okay thanks. I'll accept this answer in a minute.
      – Ethan Chan
      Sep 2 at 10:18










    • Also, we want the limit to exist that is f(x)-f(0)/x as x goes to 0. That is why f(0) existing is necessary.
      – Fundamentals
      Sep 2 at 10:23
















    • Oh right. Okay last question. How about for 3? Why would a function not be differentiable when there's a "sharp turn"?
      – Ethan Chan
      Sep 2 at 10:13










    • This is explained above, a very sharp turn means i can find lots of tangent lines so it would not be differentiable.
      – Fundamentals
      Sep 2 at 10:15






    • 1




      Okay thanks. I'll accept this answer in a minute.
      – Ethan Chan
      Sep 2 at 10:18










    • Also, we want the limit to exist that is f(x)-f(0)/x as x goes to 0. That is why f(0) existing is necessary.
      – Fundamentals
      Sep 2 at 10:23















    Oh right. Okay last question. How about for 3? Why would a function not be differentiable when there's a "sharp turn"?
    – Ethan Chan
    Sep 2 at 10:13




    Oh right. Okay last question. How about for 3? Why would a function not be differentiable when there's a "sharp turn"?
    – Ethan Chan
    Sep 2 at 10:13












    This is explained above, a very sharp turn means i can find lots of tangent lines so it would not be differentiable.
    – Fundamentals
    Sep 2 at 10:15




    This is explained above, a very sharp turn means i can find lots of tangent lines so it would not be differentiable.
    – Fundamentals
    Sep 2 at 10:15




    1




    1




    Okay thanks. I'll accept this answer in a minute.
    – Ethan Chan
    Sep 2 at 10:18




    Okay thanks. I'll accept this answer in a minute.
    – Ethan Chan
    Sep 2 at 10:18












    Also, we want the limit to exist that is f(x)-f(0)/x as x goes to 0. That is why f(0) existing is necessary.
    – Fundamentals
    Sep 2 at 10:23




    Also, we want the limit to exist that is f(x)-f(0)/x as x goes to 0. That is why f(0) existing is necessary.
    – Fundamentals
    Sep 2 at 10:23










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    At $x=0$ the function isn’t defined, so the arrangement of number, symbol and words “$f$ is not continuous at $x=0$.” isn’t even a statement at all, so it can be neither wrong nor right.






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