If matrix $A$ orthogonal then $A^2$ is orthogonal?
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If matrices $Ain M_n(mathbb R)$ orthogonal, then $A^2$ can be orthogonal but it does not have to be orthogonal?
My answer that $A^2$ is always orthogonal, I prove that $|A^2x|=|x|$, but is there better solution to prove that?
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If matrices $Ain M_n(mathbb R)$ orthogonal, then $A^2$ can be orthogonal but it does not have to be orthogonal?
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linear-algebra matrices orthogonality
There are a bunch of equivalent propertiea for orthogonality, as for examplw $A^top=A^-1$. Check them out on wiki and try proving the claim using these
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The product of two orthogonal matrices of the same size is orthogonal.
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If matrices $Ain M_n(mathbb R)$ orthogonal, then $A^2$ can be orthogonal but it does not have to be orthogonal?
My answer that $A^2$ is always orthogonal, I prove that $|A^2x|=|x|$, but is there better solution to prove that?
linear-algebra matrices orthogonality
If matrices $Ain M_n(mathbb R)$ orthogonal, then $A^2$ can be orthogonal but it does not have to be orthogonal?
My answer that $A^2$ is always orthogonal, I prove that $|A^2x|=|x|$, but is there better solution to prove that?
linear-algebra matrices orthogonality
linear-algebra matrices orthogonality
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There are a bunch of equivalent propertiea for orthogonality, as for examplw $A^top=A^-1$. Check them out on wiki and try proving the claim using these
â b00n heT
Sep 2 at 11:16
The product of two orthogonal matrices of the same size is orthogonal.
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Sep 2 at 11:23
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There are a bunch of equivalent propertiea for orthogonality, as for examplw $A^top=A^-1$. Check them out on wiki and try proving the claim using these
â b00n heT
Sep 2 at 11:16
The product of two orthogonal matrices of the same size is orthogonal.
â Lord Shark the Unknown
Sep 2 at 11:23
There are a bunch of equivalent propertiea for orthogonality, as for examplw $A^top=A^-1$. Check them out on wiki and try proving the claim using these
â b00n heT
Sep 2 at 11:16
There are a bunch of equivalent propertiea for orthogonality, as for examplw $A^top=A^-1$. Check them out on wiki and try proving the claim using these
â b00n heT
Sep 2 at 11:16
The product of two orthogonal matrices of the same size is orthogonal.
â Lord Shark the Unknown
Sep 2 at 11:23
The product of two orthogonal matrices of the same size is orthogonal.
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Yes, it has to be orthogonal. Suppose that $A$ is orthogonal. What this means is that $A^t.A=operatornameId$. But thenbeginalign(A^2)^t.A^2&=(A.A)^t.A.A\&=A^t.A^t.A.A\&=A^t.operatornameId.A\&=A^t.A\&=operatornameId.endalignTherefore, $A^2$ is orthogonal too.
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$A$ is orthogonal $ iff$ $A^T=A^-1$
$$ A^-1=A^T implies A^-2=(A^T)^2=(A^2)^T$$
$$ (A^2)^-1=(A^2)^T$$
$A$ is orthogonal $implies$ $A^2$ is orthogonal.
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A square matrix is orthogonal if and only if its columns are orthonormal. For column indices $j,k in 1, ldots, n$ we have
$$sum_i=1^n (A^2)_ij(A^2)_ik = sum_i=1^n left(sum_r=1^n A_irA_rjright)left(sum_s=1^n A_isA_skright) = sum_r=1^n sum_s=1^n left(sum_i=1^n A_irA_isright)A_rjA_sk\ = sum_r=1^n sum_s=1^n delta_rsA_rjA_sk = sum_r=1^n A_rjA_rk = delta_jk$$
so $A^2$ is orthogonal.
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3 Answers
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Yes, it has to be orthogonal. Suppose that $A$ is orthogonal. What this means is that $A^t.A=operatornameId$. But thenbeginalign(A^2)^t.A^2&=(A.A)^t.A.A\&=A^t.A^t.A.A\&=A^t.operatornameId.A\&=A^t.A\&=operatornameId.endalignTherefore, $A^2$ is orthogonal too.
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Yes, it has to be orthogonal. Suppose that $A$ is orthogonal. What this means is that $A^t.A=operatornameId$. But thenbeginalign(A^2)^t.A^2&=(A.A)^t.A.A\&=A^t.A^t.A.A\&=A^t.operatornameId.A\&=A^t.A\&=operatornameId.endalignTherefore, $A^2$ is orthogonal too.
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Yes, it has to be orthogonal. Suppose that $A$ is orthogonal. What this means is that $A^t.A=operatornameId$. But thenbeginalign(A^2)^t.A^2&=(A.A)^t.A.A\&=A^t.A^t.A.A\&=A^t.operatornameId.A\&=A^t.A\&=operatornameId.endalignTherefore, $A^2$ is orthogonal too.
Yes, it has to be orthogonal. Suppose that $A$ is orthogonal. What this means is that $A^t.A=operatornameId$. But thenbeginalign(A^2)^t.A^2&=(A.A)^t.A.A\&=A^t.A^t.A.A\&=A^t.operatornameId.A\&=A^t.A\&=operatornameId.endalignTherefore, $A^2$ is orthogonal too.
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$A$ is orthogonal $ iff$ $A^T=A^-1$
$$ A^-1=A^T implies A^-2=(A^T)^2=(A^2)^T$$
$$ (A^2)^-1=(A^2)^T$$
$A$ is orthogonal $implies$ $A^2$ is orthogonal.
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$A$ is orthogonal $ iff$ $A^T=A^-1$
$$ A^-1=A^T implies A^-2=(A^T)^2=(A^2)^T$$
$$ (A^2)^-1=(A^2)^T$$
$A$ is orthogonal $implies$ $A^2$ is orthogonal.
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$A$ is orthogonal $ iff$ $A^T=A^-1$
$$ A^-1=A^T implies A^-2=(A^T)^2=(A^2)^T$$
$$ (A^2)^-1=(A^2)^T$$
$A$ is orthogonal $implies$ $A^2$ is orthogonal.
$A$ is orthogonal $ iff$ $A^T=A^-1$
$$ A^-1=A^T implies A^-2=(A^T)^2=(A^2)^T$$
$$ (A^2)^-1=(A^2)^T$$
$A$ is orthogonal $implies$ $A^2$ is orthogonal.
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A square matrix is orthogonal if and only if its columns are orthonormal. For column indices $j,k in 1, ldots, n$ we have
$$sum_i=1^n (A^2)_ij(A^2)_ik = sum_i=1^n left(sum_r=1^n A_irA_rjright)left(sum_s=1^n A_isA_skright) = sum_r=1^n sum_s=1^n left(sum_i=1^n A_irA_isright)A_rjA_sk\ = sum_r=1^n sum_s=1^n delta_rsA_rjA_sk = sum_r=1^n A_rjA_rk = delta_jk$$
so $A^2$ is orthogonal.
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A square matrix is orthogonal if and only if its columns are orthonormal. For column indices $j,k in 1, ldots, n$ we have
$$sum_i=1^n (A^2)_ij(A^2)_ik = sum_i=1^n left(sum_r=1^n A_irA_rjright)left(sum_s=1^n A_isA_skright) = sum_r=1^n sum_s=1^n left(sum_i=1^n A_irA_isright)A_rjA_sk\ = sum_r=1^n sum_s=1^n delta_rsA_rjA_sk = sum_r=1^n A_rjA_rk = delta_jk$$
so $A^2$ is orthogonal.
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A square matrix is orthogonal if and only if its columns are orthonormal. For column indices $j,k in 1, ldots, n$ we have
$$sum_i=1^n (A^2)_ij(A^2)_ik = sum_i=1^n left(sum_r=1^n A_irA_rjright)left(sum_s=1^n A_isA_skright) = sum_r=1^n sum_s=1^n left(sum_i=1^n A_irA_isright)A_rjA_sk\ = sum_r=1^n sum_s=1^n delta_rsA_rjA_sk = sum_r=1^n A_rjA_rk = delta_jk$$
so $A^2$ is orthogonal.
A square matrix is orthogonal if and only if its columns are orthonormal. For column indices $j,k in 1, ldots, n$ we have
$$sum_i=1^n (A^2)_ij(A^2)_ik = sum_i=1^n left(sum_r=1^n A_irA_rjright)left(sum_s=1^n A_isA_skright) = sum_r=1^n sum_s=1^n left(sum_i=1^n A_irA_isright)A_rjA_sk\ = sum_r=1^n sum_s=1^n delta_rsA_rjA_sk = sum_r=1^n A_rjA_rk = delta_jk$$
so $A^2$ is orthogonal.
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There are a bunch of equivalent propertiea for orthogonality, as for examplw $A^top=A^-1$. Check them out on wiki and try proving the claim using these
â b00n heT
Sep 2 at 11:16
The product of two orthogonal matrices of the same size is orthogonal.
â Lord Shark the Unknown
Sep 2 at 11:23