Using the normal approximation, find the probability that the sum of the face values of the 100 trials is less than 300

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A six sided die is rolled 100 times. Using the normal approximation, find the probability that the sum of the face values of the 100 trials is less than 300.



This question is the second part to a question asked before: Central Limit Theorem (Normal Approximation to Binomial)



I have no issues with the first part. My question here is how could I find $mu$ and $sigma^2$ ? In part 1, I had the ability to use the fact that the random variable behaved like a Binomial R.V. That would not work here. I am doing this by hand and was hoping to get more of the theoretical reason behind finding a proper $mu$ and $sigma^2$.







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    A six sided die is rolled 100 times. Using the normal approximation, find the probability that the sum of the face values of the 100 trials is less than 300.



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    I have no issues with the first part. My question here is how could I find $mu$ and $sigma^2$ ? In part 1, I had the ability to use the fact that the random variable behaved like a Binomial R.V. That would not work here. I am doing this by hand and was hoping to get more of the theoretical reason behind finding a proper $mu$ and $sigma^2$.







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      A six sided die is rolled 100 times. Using the normal approximation, find the probability that the sum of the face values of the 100 trials is less than 300.



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      I have no issues with the first part. My question here is how could I find $mu$ and $sigma^2$ ? In part 1, I had the ability to use the fact that the random variable behaved like a Binomial R.V. That would not work here. I am doing this by hand and was hoping to get more of the theoretical reason behind finding a proper $mu$ and $sigma^2$.







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      A six sided die is rolled 100 times. Using the normal approximation, find the probability that the sum of the face values of the 100 trials is less than 300.



      This question is the second part to a question asked before: Central Limit Theorem (Normal Approximation to Binomial)



      I have no issues with the first part. My question here is how could I find $mu$ and $sigma^2$ ? In part 1, I had the ability to use the fact that the random variable behaved like a Binomial R.V. That would not work here. I am doing this by hand and was hoping to get more of the theoretical reason behind finding a proper $mu$ and $sigma^2$.









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          Let $X_i$ be iid with uniform distribution, i.e.
          beginequation
          P(X_i = k) = frac16
          endequation
          for all $k = 1 ldots 6$ and $i = 1 ldots 100$.
          Consider
          beginequation
          Y = sum X_i
          endequation
          and
          beginequation
          S_100 = fracY100
          endequation
          Assuming $n = 100$ is large enough, then by the Central Limit Theorem
          beginequation
          sqrt100(S_100 - mu ) rightarrow mathcalN(0,sigma^2)
          endequation
          where $(mu,sigma)$ are mean and std. deviation of $X_i$. The mean is
          beginequation
          mu = E(X) = frac16(1 + 2 + 3+ 4+ 5 +6) = frac216 = 3.5
          endequation
          The variance is
          beginequation
          sigma^2 = Var(X) = E(X^2) - mu^2
          endequation
          beginequation
          E(X^2) = frac16(1^2 + 2^2 + 3^2+ 4^2+ 5^2 +6^2) = frac916
          endequation
          So
          beginequation
          sigma^2 = frac916 - frac21^236 simeq 2.916
          endequation
          This means that
          beginequation
          10(S_100 - 3.5 ) rightarrow mathcalN(0,2.916)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          S_100 - 3.5 rightarrow mathcalN(0,frac2.916100)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          S_100 rightarrow mathcalN(3.5,0.02916)
          endequation
          So you are now interested in finding
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < frac300100)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 3)
          endequation
          Standardize
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 3) = P(fracS_100 - 3.50.02916 < frac3-3.50.02916)
          endequation
          Let $Z = fracS_100 - 3.50.02916 sim mathcalN(0,1)$ is the standard normal
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 300) = P(Z < frac3-3.50.02916)
          endequation






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          Let $X_i$ be iid with uniform distribution, i.e.
          beginequation
          P(X_i = k) = frac16
          endequation
          for all $k = 1 ldots 6$ and $i = 1 ldots 100$.
          Consider
          beginequation
          Y = sum X_i
          endequation
          and
          beginequation
          S_100 = fracY100
          endequation
          Assuming $n = 100$ is large enough, then by the Central Limit Theorem
          beginequation
          sqrt100(S_100 - mu ) rightarrow mathcalN(0,sigma^2)
          endequation
          where $(mu,sigma)$ are mean and std. deviation of $X_i$. The mean is
          beginequation
          mu = E(X) = frac16(1 + 2 + 3+ 4+ 5 +6) = frac216 = 3.5
          endequation
          The variance is
          beginequation
          sigma^2 = Var(X) = E(X^2) - mu^2
          endequation
          beginequation
          E(X^2) = frac16(1^2 + 2^2 + 3^2+ 4^2+ 5^2 +6^2) = frac916
          endequation
          So
          beginequation
          sigma^2 = frac916 - frac21^236 simeq 2.916
          endequation
          This means that
          beginequation
          10(S_100 - 3.5 ) rightarrow mathcalN(0,2.916)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          S_100 - 3.5 rightarrow mathcalN(0,frac2.916100)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          S_100 rightarrow mathcalN(3.5,0.02916)
          endequation
          So you are now interested in finding
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < frac300100)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 3)
          endequation
          Standardize
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 3) = P(fracS_100 - 3.50.02916 < frac3-3.50.02916)
          endequation
          Let $Z = fracS_100 - 3.50.02916 sim mathcalN(0,1)$ is the standard normal
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 300) = P(Z < frac3-3.50.02916)
          endequation






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          • Thank you. I keep on forgetting to treat the $X_i$ as i.i.d....
            – dc3rd
            Aug 12 at 0:27














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          Let $X_i$ be iid with uniform distribution, i.e.
          beginequation
          P(X_i = k) = frac16
          endequation
          for all $k = 1 ldots 6$ and $i = 1 ldots 100$.
          Consider
          beginequation
          Y = sum X_i
          endequation
          and
          beginequation
          S_100 = fracY100
          endequation
          Assuming $n = 100$ is large enough, then by the Central Limit Theorem
          beginequation
          sqrt100(S_100 - mu ) rightarrow mathcalN(0,sigma^2)
          endequation
          where $(mu,sigma)$ are mean and std. deviation of $X_i$. The mean is
          beginequation
          mu = E(X) = frac16(1 + 2 + 3+ 4+ 5 +6) = frac216 = 3.5
          endequation
          The variance is
          beginequation
          sigma^2 = Var(X) = E(X^2) - mu^2
          endequation
          beginequation
          E(X^2) = frac16(1^2 + 2^2 + 3^2+ 4^2+ 5^2 +6^2) = frac916
          endequation
          So
          beginequation
          sigma^2 = frac916 - frac21^236 simeq 2.916
          endequation
          This means that
          beginequation
          10(S_100 - 3.5 ) rightarrow mathcalN(0,2.916)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          S_100 - 3.5 rightarrow mathcalN(0,frac2.916100)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          S_100 rightarrow mathcalN(3.5,0.02916)
          endequation
          So you are now interested in finding
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < frac300100)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 3)
          endequation
          Standardize
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 3) = P(fracS_100 - 3.50.02916 < frac3-3.50.02916)
          endequation
          Let $Z = fracS_100 - 3.50.02916 sim mathcalN(0,1)$ is the standard normal
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 300) = P(Z < frac3-3.50.02916)
          endequation






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          • Thank you. I keep on forgetting to treat the $X_i$ as i.i.d....
            – dc3rd
            Aug 12 at 0:27












          up vote
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          down vote



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          up vote
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          Let $X_i$ be iid with uniform distribution, i.e.
          beginequation
          P(X_i = k) = frac16
          endequation
          for all $k = 1 ldots 6$ and $i = 1 ldots 100$.
          Consider
          beginequation
          Y = sum X_i
          endequation
          and
          beginequation
          S_100 = fracY100
          endequation
          Assuming $n = 100$ is large enough, then by the Central Limit Theorem
          beginequation
          sqrt100(S_100 - mu ) rightarrow mathcalN(0,sigma^2)
          endequation
          where $(mu,sigma)$ are mean and std. deviation of $X_i$. The mean is
          beginequation
          mu = E(X) = frac16(1 + 2 + 3+ 4+ 5 +6) = frac216 = 3.5
          endequation
          The variance is
          beginequation
          sigma^2 = Var(X) = E(X^2) - mu^2
          endequation
          beginequation
          E(X^2) = frac16(1^2 + 2^2 + 3^2+ 4^2+ 5^2 +6^2) = frac916
          endequation
          So
          beginequation
          sigma^2 = frac916 - frac21^236 simeq 2.916
          endequation
          This means that
          beginequation
          10(S_100 - 3.5 ) rightarrow mathcalN(0,2.916)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          S_100 - 3.5 rightarrow mathcalN(0,frac2.916100)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          S_100 rightarrow mathcalN(3.5,0.02916)
          endequation
          So you are now interested in finding
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < frac300100)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 3)
          endequation
          Standardize
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 3) = P(fracS_100 - 3.50.02916 < frac3-3.50.02916)
          endequation
          Let $Z = fracS_100 - 3.50.02916 sim mathcalN(0,1)$ is the standard normal
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 300) = P(Z < frac3-3.50.02916)
          endequation






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          Let $X_i$ be iid with uniform distribution, i.e.
          beginequation
          P(X_i = k) = frac16
          endequation
          for all $k = 1 ldots 6$ and $i = 1 ldots 100$.
          Consider
          beginequation
          Y = sum X_i
          endequation
          and
          beginequation
          S_100 = fracY100
          endequation
          Assuming $n = 100$ is large enough, then by the Central Limit Theorem
          beginequation
          sqrt100(S_100 - mu ) rightarrow mathcalN(0,sigma^2)
          endequation
          where $(mu,sigma)$ are mean and std. deviation of $X_i$. The mean is
          beginequation
          mu = E(X) = frac16(1 + 2 + 3+ 4+ 5 +6) = frac216 = 3.5
          endequation
          The variance is
          beginequation
          sigma^2 = Var(X) = E(X^2) - mu^2
          endequation
          beginequation
          E(X^2) = frac16(1^2 + 2^2 + 3^2+ 4^2+ 5^2 +6^2) = frac916
          endequation
          So
          beginequation
          sigma^2 = frac916 - frac21^236 simeq 2.916
          endequation
          This means that
          beginequation
          10(S_100 - 3.5 ) rightarrow mathcalN(0,2.916)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          S_100 - 3.5 rightarrow mathcalN(0,frac2.916100)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          S_100 rightarrow mathcalN(3.5,0.02916)
          endequation
          So you are now interested in finding
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < frac300100)
          endequation
          or
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 3)
          endequation
          Standardize
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 3) = P(fracS_100 - 3.50.02916 < frac3-3.50.02916)
          endequation
          Let $Z = fracS_100 - 3.50.02916 sim mathcalN(0,1)$ is the standard normal
          beginequation
          P(S_100 < 300) = P(Z < frac3-3.50.02916)
          endequation







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          • Thank you. I keep on forgetting to treat the $X_i$ as i.i.d....
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          • Thank you. I keep on forgetting to treat the $X_i$ as i.i.d....
            – dc3rd
            Aug 12 at 0:27















          Thank you. I keep on forgetting to treat the $X_i$ as i.i.d....
          – dc3rd
          Aug 12 at 0:27




          Thank you. I keep on forgetting to treat the $X_i$ as i.i.d....
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