Double Integral over Trapezium
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$int int_ A sinleft(fracy-xx+yright)dA$
where $A$ is the trapzeium with vertices $(1,1), (2,2), (2,0), (4,0)$.
I decided to use $u=y-x$ and $v=y+x$ as my variables, and from attempting to change variables I got,
$frac12int_-2^0 int_?^4 sinleft(fracuvright)dvdu$
I'm confused on how to work out the lower? limit for $v$. To work out my previous limits I drew the area, worked out each equation for each line and subbed in $u$ and $v$, but one line was $x=0$, hence the confusion as $u$ and $v$ can't be subbed in here.
Thanks in advance for any tips or help!
integration multivariable-calculus
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$int int_ A sinleft(fracy-xx+yright)dA$
where $A$ is the trapzeium with vertices $(1,1), (2,2), (2,0), (4,0)$.
I decided to use $u=y-x$ and $v=y+x$ as my variables, and from attempting to change variables I got,
$frac12int_-2^0 int_?^4 sinleft(fracuvright)dvdu$
I'm confused on how to work out the lower? limit for $v$. To work out my previous limits I drew the area, worked out each equation for each line and subbed in $u$ and $v$, but one line was $x=0$, hence the confusion as $u$ and $v$ can't be subbed in here.
Thanks in advance for any tips or help!
integration multivariable-calculus
I can't see the trapezium. Maybe one of the points is wrong.
â Alejandro Nasif Salum
Aug 12 at 2:18
Three of your vertices are colinear... on the $x$ axis??
â David G. Stork
Aug 12 at 2:18
Ah sorry, I meant to put (1,1), edited now.
â Brad Scott
Aug 12 at 2:30
Split the trapezium into two triangles along the vertical at x=2. This should make the integration end points easier when you change variables..
â herb steinberg
Aug 12 at 3:41
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$int int_ A sinleft(fracy-xx+yright)dA$
where $A$ is the trapzeium with vertices $(1,1), (2,2), (2,0), (4,0)$.
I decided to use $u=y-x$ and $v=y+x$ as my variables, and from attempting to change variables I got,
$frac12int_-2^0 int_?^4 sinleft(fracuvright)dvdu$
I'm confused on how to work out the lower? limit for $v$. To work out my previous limits I drew the area, worked out each equation for each line and subbed in $u$ and $v$, but one line was $x=0$, hence the confusion as $u$ and $v$ can't be subbed in here.
Thanks in advance for any tips or help!
integration multivariable-calculus
$int int_ A sinleft(fracy-xx+yright)dA$
where $A$ is the trapzeium with vertices $(1,1), (2,2), (2,0), (4,0)$.
I decided to use $u=y-x$ and $v=y+x$ as my variables, and from attempting to change variables I got,
$frac12int_-2^0 int_?^4 sinleft(fracuvright)dvdu$
I'm confused on how to work out the lower? limit for $v$. To work out my previous limits I drew the area, worked out each equation for each line and subbed in $u$ and $v$, but one line was $x=0$, hence the confusion as $u$ and $v$ can't be subbed in here.
Thanks in advance for any tips or help!
integration multivariable-calculus
edited Aug 12 at 14:28
asked Aug 12 at 1:54
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I can't see the trapezium. Maybe one of the points is wrong.
â Alejandro Nasif Salum
Aug 12 at 2:18
Three of your vertices are colinear... on the $x$ axis??
â David G. Stork
Aug 12 at 2:18
Ah sorry, I meant to put (1,1), edited now.
â Brad Scott
Aug 12 at 2:30
Split the trapezium into two triangles along the vertical at x=2. This should make the integration end points easier when you change variables..
â herb steinberg
Aug 12 at 3:41
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I can't see the trapezium. Maybe one of the points is wrong.
â Alejandro Nasif Salum
Aug 12 at 2:18
Three of your vertices are colinear... on the $x$ axis??
â David G. Stork
Aug 12 at 2:18
Ah sorry, I meant to put (1,1), edited now.
â Brad Scott
Aug 12 at 2:30
Split the trapezium into two triangles along the vertical at x=2. This should make the integration end points easier when you change variables..
â herb steinberg
Aug 12 at 3:41
I can't see the trapezium. Maybe one of the points is wrong.
â Alejandro Nasif Salum
Aug 12 at 2:18
I can't see the trapezium. Maybe one of the points is wrong.
â Alejandro Nasif Salum
Aug 12 at 2:18
Three of your vertices are colinear... on the $x$ axis??
â David G. Stork
Aug 12 at 2:18
Three of your vertices are colinear... on the $x$ axis??
â David G. Stork
Aug 12 at 2:18
Ah sorry, I meant to put (1,1), edited now.
â Brad Scott
Aug 12 at 2:30
Ah sorry, I meant to put (1,1), edited now.
â Brad Scott
Aug 12 at 2:30
Split the trapezium into two triangles along the vertical at x=2. This should make the integration end points easier when you change variables..
â herb steinberg
Aug 12 at 3:41
Split the trapezium into two triangles along the vertical at x=2. This should make the integration end points easier when you change variables..
â herb steinberg
Aug 12 at 3:41
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You've chosen to put $u$ as the last variable to integrate. This is not how I would personally go about it, but let's continue.
Let's transform these points in terms of $u$ and $v$. Our points become
$$(u, v) = (0, 2), (0, 4), (-4, 4), (-2, 2).$$
Plot these on the $u$-$v$ plane. Note that $u$ ranges not from $-2$ to $0$, but $-4$ to $0$. The upper bound for $v$ is indeed $4$, but the lower bound is made up of two line segments, which have a cusp at $u = -2$. So, we should probably split the domain up.
For $u$ between $-4$ and $-2$, the lower bound follows the line $v = -u$. For $u$ between $-2$ and $0$, the line is $v = 0$. So, our integral is split like so:
$$iint_A = int_-4^-2 int_-u^4 + int_-2^0 int_0^4.$$
If you instead put $v$ on the outside, you get something a lot nicer:
$$int_2^4 int_-v^0$$
Don't forget the Jacobean too!
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You've chosen to put $u$ as the last variable to integrate. This is not how I would personally go about it, but let's continue.
Let's transform these points in terms of $u$ and $v$. Our points become
$$(u, v) = (0, 2), (0, 4), (-4, 4), (-2, 2).$$
Plot these on the $u$-$v$ plane. Note that $u$ ranges not from $-2$ to $0$, but $-4$ to $0$. The upper bound for $v$ is indeed $4$, but the lower bound is made up of two line segments, which have a cusp at $u = -2$. So, we should probably split the domain up.
For $u$ between $-4$ and $-2$, the lower bound follows the line $v = -u$. For $u$ between $-2$ and $0$, the line is $v = 0$. So, our integral is split like so:
$$iint_A = int_-4^-2 int_-u^4 + int_-2^0 int_0^4.$$
If you instead put $v$ on the outside, you get something a lot nicer:
$$int_2^4 int_-v^0$$
Don't forget the Jacobean too!
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
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You've chosen to put $u$ as the last variable to integrate. This is not how I would personally go about it, but let's continue.
Let's transform these points in terms of $u$ and $v$. Our points become
$$(u, v) = (0, 2), (0, 4), (-4, 4), (-2, 2).$$
Plot these on the $u$-$v$ plane. Note that $u$ ranges not from $-2$ to $0$, but $-4$ to $0$. The upper bound for $v$ is indeed $4$, but the lower bound is made up of two line segments, which have a cusp at $u = -2$. So, we should probably split the domain up.
For $u$ between $-4$ and $-2$, the lower bound follows the line $v = -u$. For $u$ between $-2$ and $0$, the line is $v = 0$. So, our integral is split like so:
$$iint_A = int_-4^-2 int_-u^4 + int_-2^0 int_0^4.$$
If you instead put $v$ on the outside, you get something a lot nicer:
$$int_2^4 int_-v^0$$
Don't forget the Jacobean too!
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
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up vote
1
down vote
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You've chosen to put $u$ as the last variable to integrate. This is not how I would personally go about it, but let's continue.
Let's transform these points in terms of $u$ and $v$. Our points become
$$(u, v) = (0, 2), (0, 4), (-4, 4), (-2, 2).$$
Plot these on the $u$-$v$ plane. Note that $u$ ranges not from $-2$ to $0$, but $-4$ to $0$. The upper bound for $v$ is indeed $4$, but the lower bound is made up of two line segments, which have a cusp at $u = -2$. So, we should probably split the domain up.
For $u$ between $-4$ and $-2$, the lower bound follows the line $v = -u$. For $u$ between $-2$ and $0$, the line is $v = 0$. So, our integral is split like so:
$$iint_A = int_-4^-2 int_-u^4 + int_-2^0 int_0^4.$$
If you instead put $v$ on the outside, you get something a lot nicer:
$$int_2^4 int_-v^0$$
Don't forget the Jacobean too!
You've chosen to put $u$ as the last variable to integrate. This is not how I would personally go about it, but let's continue.
Let's transform these points in terms of $u$ and $v$. Our points become
$$(u, v) = (0, 2), (0, 4), (-4, 4), (-2, 2).$$
Plot these on the $u$-$v$ plane. Note that $u$ ranges not from $-2$ to $0$, but $-4$ to $0$. The upper bound for $v$ is indeed $4$, but the lower bound is made up of two line segments, which have a cusp at $u = -2$. So, we should probably split the domain up.
For $u$ between $-4$ and $-2$, the lower bound follows the line $v = -u$. For $u$ between $-2$ and $0$, the line is $v = 0$. So, our integral is split like so:
$$iint_A = int_-4^-2 int_-u^4 + int_-2^0 int_0^4.$$
If you instead put $v$ on the outside, you get something a lot nicer:
$$int_2^4 int_-v^0$$
Don't forget the Jacobean too!
answered Aug 12 at 4:04
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I can't see the trapezium. Maybe one of the points is wrong.
â Alejandro Nasif Salum
Aug 12 at 2:18
Three of your vertices are colinear... on the $x$ axis??
â David G. Stork
Aug 12 at 2:18
Ah sorry, I meant to put (1,1), edited now.
â Brad Scott
Aug 12 at 2:30
Split the trapezium into two triangles along the vertical at x=2. This should make the integration end points easier when you change variables..
â herb steinberg
Aug 12 at 3:41