Solution of the differential equation $y' = sin(xy)$ [closed]
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How can I solve the differential equation $y' = sin(xy)$?
I have found it in an exercise of a book aboute ODE's, but its seems to me so much difficult I did not have idea how to try to solve it.
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I have found it in an exercise of a book aboute ODE's, but its seems to me so much difficult I did not have idea how to try to solve it.
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How can I solve the differential equation $y' = sin(xy)$?
I have found it in an exercise of a book aboute ODE's, but its seems to me so much difficult I did not have idea how to try to solve it.
Thanks!
differential-equations
How can I solve the differential equation $y' = sin(xy)$?
I have found it in an exercise of a book aboute ODE's, but its seems to me so much difficult I did not have idea how to try to solve it.
Thanks!
differential-equations
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Wolfram Alpha doesn't like it.
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Let $u=xy$ ,
Then $y=dfracux$
$dfracdydx=dfrac1xdfracdudx-dfracux^2$
$thereforedfrac1xdfracdudx-dfracux^2=sin u$
$dfrac1xdfracdudx=dfracx^2sin u+ux^2$
$(x^2sin u+u)dfracdxdu=x$
Let $v=x^2$ ,
$dfracdvdu=2xdfracdxdu$
$thereforedfrac(x^2sin u+u)2xdfracdvdu=x$
$(x^2sin u+u)dfracdvdu=2x^2$
$(vsin u+u)dfracdvdu=2v$
Let $w=v+ucsc u$ ,
Then $v=w-ucsc u$
$dfracdvdu=dfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)csc u$
$therefore(sin u)wleft(dfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)csc uright)=2(w-ucsc u)$
$(sin u)wdfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)w=2w-2ucsc u$
$(sin u)wdfracdwdu=(3-ucot u)w-2ucsc u$
$wdfracdwdu=(3csc u-ucsc ucot u)w-2ucsc^2u$
This belongs to an Abel equation of the second kind.
In fact all Abel equation of the second kind can be transformed into Abel equation of the first kind.
Let $w=dfrac1z$ ,
Then $dfracdwdu=-dfrac1z^2dfracdzdu$
$therefore-dfrac1z^3dfracdzdu=dfrac3csc u-ucsc ucot uz-2ucsc^2u$
$dfracdzdu=2z^3ucsc^2u+(ucsc ucot u-3)z^2$
Please follow the method in http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijmms/2011/387429/#sec2
Thanks. I see it was no trivial. Just a question, in the last line 3 shouldn't be multiplied by $csc(u)$?
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Let $u=xy$ ,
Then $y=dfracux$
$dfracdydx=dfrac1xdfracdudx-dfracux^2$
$thereforedfrac1xdfracdudx-dfracux^2=sin u$
$dfrac1xdfracdudx=dfracx^2sin u+ux^2$
$(x^2sin u+u)dfracdxdu=x$
Let $v=x^2$ ,
$dfracdvdu=2xdfracdxdu$
$thereforedfrac(x^2sin u+u)2xdfracdvdu=x$
$(x^2sin u+u)dfracdvdu=2x^2$
$(vsin u+u)dfracdvdu=2v$
Let $w=v+ucsc u$ ,
Then $v=w-ucsc u$
$dfracdvdu=dfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)csc u$
$therefore(sin u)wleft(dfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)csc uright)=2(w-ucsc u)$
$(sin u)wdfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)w=2w-2ucsc u$
$(sin u)wdfracdwdu=(3-ucot u)w-2ucsc u$
$wdfracdwdu=(3csc u-ucsc ucot u)w-2ucsc^2u$
This belongs to an Abel equation of the second kind.
In fact all Abel equation of the second kind can be transformed into Abel equation of the first kind.
Let $w=dfrac1z$ ,
Then $dfracdwdu=-dfrac1z^2dfracdzdu$
$therefore-dfrac1z^3dfracdzdu=dfrac3csc u-ucsc ucot uz-2ucsc^2u$
$dfracdzdu=2z^3ucsc^2u+(ucsc ucot u-3)z^2$
Please follow the method in http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijmms/2011/387429/#sec2
Thanks. I see it was no trivial. Just a question, in the last line 3 shouldn't be multiplied by $csc(u)$?
â iago
Aug 12 at 10:18
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Let $u=xy$ ,
Then $y=dfracux$
$dfracdydx=dfrac1xdfracdudx-dfracux^2$
$thereforedfrac1xdfracdudx-dfracux^2=sin u$
$dfrac1xdfracdudx=dfracx^2sin u+ux^2$
$(x^2sin u+u)dfracdxdu=x$
Let $v=x^2$ ,
$dfracdvdu=2xdfracdxdu$
$thereforedfrac(x^2sin u+u)2xdfracdvdu=x$
$(x^2sin u+u)dfracdvdu=2x^2$
$(vsin u+u)dfracdvdu=2v$
Let $w=v+ucsc u$ ,
Then $v=w-ucsc u$
$dfracdvdu=dfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)csc u$
$therefore(sin u)wleft(dfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)csc uright)=2(w-ucsc u)$
$(sin u)wdfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)w=2w-2ucsc u$
$(sin u)wdfracdwdu=(3-ucot u)w-2ucsc u$
$wdfracdwdu=(3csc u-ucsc ucot u)w-2ucsc^2u$
This belongs to an Abel equation of the second kind.
In fact all Abel equation of the second kind can be transformed into Abel equation of the first kind.
Let $w=dfrac1z$ ,
Then $dfracdwdu=-dfrac1z^2dfracdzdu$
$therefore-dfrac1z^3dfracdzdu=dfrac3csc u-ucsc ucot uz-2ucsc^2u$
$dfracdzdu=2z^3ucsc^2u+(ucsc ucot u-3)z^2$
Please follow the method in http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijmms/2011/387429/#sec2
Thanks. I see it was no trivial. Just a question, in the last line 3 shouldn't be multiplied by $csc(u)$?
â iago
Aug 12 at 10:18
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up vote
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up vote
4
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Let $u=xy$ ,
Then $y=dfracux$
$dfracdydx=dfrac1xdfracdudx-dfracux^2$
$thereforedfrac1xdfracdudx-dfracux^2=sin u$
$dfrac1xdfracdudx=dfracx^2sin u+ux^2$
$(x^2sin u+u)dfracdxdu=x$
Let $v=x^2$ ,
$dfracdvdu=2xdfracdxdu$
$thereforedfrac(x^2sin u+u)2xdfracdvdu=x$
$(x^2sin u+u)dfracdvdu=2x^2$
$(vsin u+u)dfracdvdu=2v$
Let $w=v+ucsc u$ ,
Then $v=w-ucsc u$
$dfracdvdu=dfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)csc u$
$therefore(sin u)wleft(dfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)csc uright)=2(w-ucsc u)$
$(sin u)wdfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)w=2w-2ucsc u$
$(sin u)wdfracdwdu=(3-ucot u)w-2ucsc u$
$wdfracdwdu=(3csc u-ucsc ucot u)w-2ucsc^2u$
This belongs to an Abel equation of the second kind.
In fact all Abel equation of the second kind can be transformed into Abel equation of the first kind.
Let $w=dfrac1z$ ,
Then $dfracdwdu=-dfrac1z^2dfracdzdu$
$therefore-dfrac1z^3dfracdzdu=dfrac3csc u-ucsc ucot uz-2ucsc^2u$
$dfracdzdu=2z^3ucsc^2u+(ucsc ucot u-3)z^2$
Please follow the method in http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijmms/2011/387429/#sec2
Let $u=xy$ ,
Then $y=dfracux$
$dfracdydx=dfrac1xdfracdudx-dfracux^2$
$thereforedfrac1xdfracdudx-dfracux^2=sin u$
$dfrac1xdfracdudx=dfracx^2sin u+ux^2$
$(x^2sin u+u)dfracdxdu=x$
Let $v=x^2$ ,
$dfracdvdu=2xdfracdxdu$
$thereforedfrac(x^2sin u+u)2xdfracdvdu=x$
$(x^2sin u+u)dfracdvdu=2x^2$
$(vsin u+u)dfracdvdu=2v$
Let $w=v+ucsc u$ ,
Then $v=w-ucsc u$
$dfracdvdu=dfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)csc u$
$therefore(sin u)wleft(dfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)csc uright)=2(w-ucsc u)$
$(sin u)wdfracdwdu+(ucot u-1)w=2w-2ucsc u$
$(sin u)wdfracdwdu=(3-ucot u)w-2ucsc u$
$wdfracdwdu=(3csc u-ucsc ucot u)w-2ucsc^2u$
This belongs to an Abel equation of the second kind.
In fact all Abel equation of the second kind can be transformed into Abel equation of the first kind.
Let $w=dfrac1z$ ,
Then $dfracdwdu=-dfrac1z^2dfracdzdu$
$therefore-dfrac1z^3dfracdzdu=dfrac3csc u-ucsc ucot uz-2ucsc^2u$
$dfracdzdu=2z^3ucsc^2u+(ucsc ucot u-3)z^2$
Please follow the method in http://www.hindawi.com/journals/ijmms/2011/387429/#sec2
answered Aug 12 at 8:30
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Thanks. I see it was no trivial. Just a question, in the last line 3 shouldn't be multiplied by $csc(u)$?
â iago
Aug 12 at 10:18
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Thanks. I see it was no trivial. Just a question, in the last line 3 shouldn't be multiplied by $csc(u)$?
â iago
Aug 12 at 10:18
Thanks. I see it was no trivial. Just a question, in the last line 3 shouldn't be multiplied by $csc(u)$?
â iago
Aug 12 at 10:18
Thanks. I see it was no trivial. Just a question, in the last line 3 shouldn't be multiplied by $csc(u)$?
â iago
Aug 12 at 10:18
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Wolfram Alpha doesn't like it.
â Yves Daoust
Aug 12 at 9:51
It's great to see the wonderful team of Inquisitors of math.stackexchange. I will go with my questions to another place. Bye, bye!
â iago
Aug 18 at 22:37