Other than tentacles and jointed digits, what methods of holding items are there that provide similar dexterity?
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I'm trying to envision a creature that is highly dexterous, and adept at using tools, but every time I try to think of a possible grasping appendage, the only two I come up with are either tentacle like appendages (cephalopods) or jointed digits (humans).
I want to create a sentient life form with neither tentacles or digits, but the closest thing I could think of is an inflatable appendage that can envelop objects, and I don't think that would be good for tool usage.
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I'm trying to envision a creature that is highly dexterous, and adept at using tools, but every time I try to think of a possible grasping appendage, the only two I come up with are either tentacle like appendages (cephalopods) or jointed digits (humans).
I want to create a sentient life form with neither tentacles or digits, but the closest thing I could think of is an inflatable appendage that can envelop objects, and I don't think that would be good for tool usage.
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I don't think tentacles are good with tools tho
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Aug 13 at 0:10
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Have some kind of organic fluids that have controlled rheology (electric / magnetic / chemical) that allow them to be made rigid on demand to form a mating surface to any shaped object.
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Aug 13 at 7:42
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I'd recommend replacing 'tentacle' with 'muscular hydrostat'. It's the more generic term for what a tentacle is, and also unambiguously encompasses tongues along with other tentacle-like things that people might propose.
â Adam Miller
Aug 13 at 15:34
@KalleMP unless you can figure those could form variable configurations, you probably shouldn't post it as an answer.
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I'm trying to envision a creature that is highly dexterous, and adept at using tools, but every time I try to think of a possible grasping appendage, the only two I come up with are either tentacle like appendages (cephalopods) or jointed digits (humans).
I want to create a sentient life form with neither tentacles or digits, but the closest thing I could think of is an inflatable appendage that can envelop objects, and I don't think that would be good for tool usage.
science-based evolution xenobiology
I'm trying to envision a creature that is highly dexterous, and adept at using tools, but every time I try to think of a possible grasping appendage, the only two I come up with are either tentacle like appendages (cephalopods) or jointed digits (humans).
I want to create a sentient life form with neither tentacles or digits, but the closest thing I could think of is an inflatable appendage that can envelop objects, and I don't think that would be good for tool usage.
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I don't think tentacles are good with tools tho
â enkryptor
Aug 13 at 0:10
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Have some kind of organic fluids that have controlled rheology (electric / magnetic / chemical) that allow them to be made rigid on demand to form a mating surface to any shaped object.
â KalleMP
Aug 13 at 7:42
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I'd recommend replacing 'tentacle' with 'muscular hydrostat'. It's the more generic term for what a tentacle is, and also unambiguously encompasses tongues along with other tentacle-like things that people might propose.
â Adam Miller
Aug 13 at 15:34
@KalleMP unless you can figure those could form variable configurations, you probably shouldn't post it as an answer.
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I don't think tentacles are good with tools tho
â enkryptor
Aug 13 at 0:10
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Have some kind of organic fluids that have controlled rheology (electric / magnetic / chemical) that allow them to be made rigid on demand to form a mating surface to any shaped object.
â KalleMP
Aug 13 at 7:42
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I'd recommend replacing 'tentacle' with 'muscular hydrostat'. It's the more generic term for what a tentacle is, and also unambiguously encompasses tongues along with other tentacle-like things that people might propose.
â Adam Miller
Aug 13 at 15:34
@KalleMP unless you can figure those could form variable configurations, you probably shouldn't post it as an answer.
â can-ned_food
Aug 13 at 20:06
I don't think tentacles are good with tools tho
â enkryptor
Aug 13 at 0:10
I don't think tentacles are good with tools tho
â enkryptor
Aug 13 at 0:10
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Have some kind of organic fluids that have controlled rheology (electric / magnetic / chemical) that allow them to be made rigid on demand to form a mating surface to any shaped object.
â KalleMP
Aug 13 at 7:42
Have some kind of organic fluids that have controlled rheology (electric / magnetic / chemical) that allow them to be made rigid on demand to form a mating surface to any shaped object.
â KalleMP
Aug 13 at 7:42
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I'd recommend replacing 'tentacle' with 'muscular hydrostat'. It's the more generic term for what a tentacle is, and also unambiguously encompasses tongues along with other tentacle-like things that people might propose.
â Adam Miller
Aug 13 at 15:34
I'd recommend replacing 'tentacle' with 'muscular hydrostat'. It's the more generic term for what a tentacle is, and also unambiguously encompasses tongues along with other tentacle-like things that people might propose.
â Adam Miller
Aug 13 at 15:34
@KalleMP unless you can figure those could form variable configurations, you probably shouldn't post it as an answer.
â can-ned_food
Aug 13 at 20:06
@KalleMP unless you can figure those could form variable configurations, you probably shouldn't post it as an answer.
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Aug 13 at 20:06
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Really small sticky hair with fine control
Let's not think octopus. Let's think Geckos.
Geckos can stick to surfaces because their bulbous toes are covered in hundreds of tiny microscopic hairs called setae. Each seta splits off into hundreds of even smaller bristles called spatulae. Scientists already knew that the tufts of tiny hairs get so close to the contours in walls and ceilings that the van der Waals force kicks in. This type of physical bond happens when electrons from the gecko hair molecules and electrons from the wall molecules interact with each other and create an electromagnetic attraction.
Now researchers have discovered how a balance of forces acting on the gecko and the angle of its toe hairs contribute to the creature's sticking success. The system makes it possible for geckos to stick and unstick their feet so quickly that they can scurry across surfaces at 20 body lengths per second.
Let's say your aliens are arachnids, and the spidery-like points of your legs have small, sticky hairs that have evolved over time to provide you with "fine hair control." You can roll a coin around the tip of your leg and even flip it into the air with the hair control. Your human friends watch in amazement as you manipulate delicate tools and parts with ease.
After which you can climb the wall to get to breakfast on the 2nd floor.
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Would you consider echinoderm tube feet to be a subtrope of "tiny hairs"
â James K
Aug 12 at 8:41
@JamesK, I don't know enough about starfish, etc., to be a clear judge, but the tubes feel more like suckers to me than hair using Van der Wall force for adhesion. But that's admittedly a guess on my part.
â JBH
Aug 12 at 12:31
so basically lots and lots of tiny tentacles, almost like tube feet on starfish.
â John
Aug 12 at 14:45
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@John A tentacle is something that wraps around the screwdriver. Tube feet are something that suction to the screwdriver. Setae are tiny hairs that adhere to the screwdriver via Van der Waal force. So, no, not basically lots of tiny tentacles or like tube feet. They are all "grasping" the screwdriver in very different ways. Keep in mind that the fact that Octopi have both tentacles and suckers doesn't mean they use the suckers to grasp. A monkey's prehensile tail would be an example of a tentacle as would any sentient snake.
â JBH
Aug 12 at 15:52
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This answer really got me thinking. The hairs that mediate VanDerWaals interactions for geckos are molecular small. But there are definitely microscopic appendages even smaller than setae - cilia and flagella. Humans live in a world that extends down to about 0.1mm - the limit of our perceptions. I am thinking of a creature with prehensile flagella-like structures. Their worlds could extend down much farther than ours. Very cool idea!
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Beak.
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-crows-hooked-tools-20180122-story.html
Corvids and especially New Caledonian crows can use tools. The New Caledonian crows actually make their curved stick tools, which they use to fish for grubs. The New Caledonian crow beaks are adapted for this.
https://corvidresearch.blog/2016/03/17/why-the-crow-smiles/
By using tomography scans, Hiroshi Matsui and his team were able to
compare the shape and structure of the NC crowâÂÂs bill with that of its
close relatives. Their conclusion, which they report in the March
issue of Scientific Reports, is that this shape makes the handling and
manufacturing of tools easier. Looking at photos of the birds in
action, it feels intuitive that the more exaggerated curve of a raven
or American crow bill would have a hard time achieving the dexterity
that NC crows need to use their stick and hook tools.
If birds don't do it for you, you could create a creature in which each pincher-like claw functioned the same way as a crow's beak. Some existing creatures have many claws.
https://ncfscience.org/2013/05/07/horseshoecrabs/
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What the hell is that brown thing with all the pincers? I feel like it's on me.
â Wilson
Aug 12 at 8:30
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Horseshoe crab. Not actually a crab, or even a crustacean, but actually related to arachnids, and perhaps ancient sea scorpions
â James K
Aug 12 at 8:37
And they have a funny colour of blood that is tapped for medical reagent production.
â KalleMP
Aug 13 at 7:37
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Now that I scrolled down that image, how I can scroll up again for the upvote?
â Mixxiphoid
Aug 13 at 11:14
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Aren't beaks just jointed digits but with only one join instead of multiple? They still rely on stiff parts + hinge joints.
â Pyritie
Aug 13 at 16:41
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Tongue has no bones but is pretty dextrous, elephants trunk is even better since it can grasp objects.
So your creatures could have muscular appendages like those with apposing surfaces for fine grip.
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Aren't those kinda like tentacles?
â Starpilot
Aug 12 at 3:39
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A human tongue is a tiny tentacle inside your mouth. That's the kind of thing I'll now have to cope with having in my mind. Thank you.
â John Dvorak
Aug 12 at 10:10
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@johndvorak it is called a en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_hydrostat - and you were correct. So when a person puts the tongue to .... it is actually akin to a tentacle doing the same thing... And now we can't unseen it.
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Aug 13 at 16:28
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Larry Niven came up with something. The pearson's puppeteers use their mouths and knobby muscular lips. they can get extra strength from hte jaws or fine manipulation from the knobs, which are purely muscular. Here is just one of many sketches of how they work for Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials.
sorta disturbing but thats probably my favorite idea.
â tox123
Aug 12 at 19:10
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It helps t the puppeteers have two mouths on two heads each on the end of a long neck, and their brains are in their torso.
â John
Aug 12 at 20:31
was this in ring world? I vaguely remember something like this in there should I reread it?
â tox123
Aug 12 at 22:38
yes, the puppeteers pop up in nearly every known space book. Barlowe's art of them is my favorite, they really look like real creatures.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierson%27s_Puppeteers#/media/â¦
â John
Aug 12 at 23:05
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Never described in that anatomical much detail, it is certainly possible.
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Here are some ideas:
Magnetolike:
The ability to create strong magnetic fields in order to suspend ferromagnetic and paramagnetic materials.
Acoustic:
Using varieties of sound waves to levitate objects (use tools with higher amounts of precision)
Symbiotic creatures:
A symbiotic nervous relationship with another organism that has grasping power (head crabs from halflife)
Tails:
I don't even need to tell you about monkeys and their fifth hand.
Will add more if I can think of any.
â Debaditya
Aug 12 at 14:30
Acoustic seems like it could get pretty hand wavy and filled with PDEs that would be nightmarish
â tox123
Aug 12 at 15:13
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Also derp magnetic?
â tox123
Aug 12 at 15:13
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@tox123 Probably meant to say ferromagnetic. D for F, missing an R, and P for O. (I'll resist the South Park joke, now.)
â can-ned_food
Aug 13 at 2:03
@tox123 You know, we know how to throw and catch things without having to know the physics behind their weird trajectories. So it doesn't make sense why LDEs will be involved is utilizing the idea of acoustic.
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An inflatable appendage is actually a bit more practical than you might think- the University of Chicago came up with something similar a few years ago as a 'universal gripper'. In essence it's a sandbag and a vacuum with the principle of operation being the flexible outer allows the particulate matter inside to flow around the object being picked up. It then sucks all the air out of the system while pushing down, pulling the particles rigidly together. It gives you a compliant grip on anything the membrane/particulates can flow into.
A similar mechanism could be evolved pretty easily- a membrane full of ingested sand that the being inhales against to pull it together.
There's a video of it in action below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d4f8fEysf8
That's exactly the opposite of what I was think but sane method of grasping. Also that's really impressive. I think I'll combine that with @John's answer
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Aug 12 at 22:48
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Although highly unlikely, perhaps your creatures can develop tractor beams controlled by an eye-like laser organ. This would make them telekinetic and depending on the size of the beam, this can far exceed the dexterity level provided by biomechanical manipulators like tentacles or jointed digits.
You can start by knowing that biological lasers are already possible.
This is how they worked from laboratories.
Figure a: Reflective mirrors are arranged facing each other, sandwiching a cell between them. The cell acts as the gain medium, transferring some of its energy to the light shone on it from below. The two mirrors imprison light waves that are incoherent with the cell-amplified light, allowing only the coherent amplified light to get out of the mirror prison.
Figure b: Microscopic image of the cell.
Figure c & d: Image of the coherent light emitted by the cell.
The reflective mirrors and the light source can be exchanged for biological counterparts as well. The reflective mirror can then envelope the entire cell, creating a spherical organic mirror shell. Portions of that shell can then be modified by adding lenses with controllable focal points and light sources with controllable frequencies.
There are a lot of uses for lasers other than tractor beams, but hopefully your creatures do not evolve to figure them out. If your creatures somehow learned how to freeze objects by adiabatic laser cooling or simply burn them with sheer ionizing radiation, then I don't know how much more dexterous they can get.
Using e.m. light pressure to attract masses and accelerate them toward the laser emitter would be very ⦠onerous. If you meant something else, then please include that information.
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Aug 13 at 2:07
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I'm not sure if this would count under Willik's answer, but I am sitting next to my Labrador here and she is perfectly capable of moving things with her jaws. She has a bright mind, but really it's that feature - fine motor skills - that she lacks to manipulate things carefully.
Picture an animal with four separate rows of teeth - four "jaws." In it's natural environment, it straps itself to prey and must use fine motor skills to avoid something dangerous in the animals (quills, fangs, etcetera). Once it's muscles have the animal in control, it locks down with it's jaws and consumes it whole.
The animal I just described is almost real, like a boa constrictor, which is a snake. I've seen handlers with those guys a bunch when I was younger. But surely a snake with a full brain could learn to use its jaws for more than consumption - although I shudder at the thought.
An animal with a number of teeth like that would need a mammal brain, but that would be about learning, which is more crucial than appendage, and not what you asked.
I read a book a while ago were there were aliens that consisted of packs of four to eight and used there names to hold and manipulate objects. I think the book was called fire upon the deep. Really interesting world building.
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Aug 12 at 16:25
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How about air or water jets? I think of a nose with many independently orientable openings, that can finely manipulate air streams.
For such a life form tool use would probably look very different from us. Rather than a knife, they might use a stream of sand for cutting. For more human like tools holding them might be more akin to juggling them between air streams.
This sort of alien could have evolved to handle very hot or poisonous objects, that it can't touch directly.
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Engulfing Hydrostatic Gel
Your hypothetical creature can fill a compartment of its body (like a mouth or pocket) or just cover the object with a thick goop which is laced with muscular fibres. With concentration, the creature can manipulate the fibres to pull and push various parts of the goop in meaningful ways.
This would allow the creature to manipulate the inner workings of a mechanism without opening the case any more than necessary to unseal it
More can be achieved if the gel can be made sticky selectively to grip objects inside it.
I'm imagining an evolution of something similar to the dendrites of a sea-cucumber, shifting from being a mass of tendrils to a milky haze in the water wrapped in mucous.
Also compare and contrast Sea-Stars/Starfish and their strategy for eating oysters, they pry open the shell a crack and then force their own stomach physically out of their mouth into the oyster's shell to consume it from the inside out.
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Flingable nets.
Have multiple single-segment arms that each can fling a net at the object to be manipulated. When the object is caught by multiple nets, it will be possible to tilt or pull the object in various directions.
Spider-Man uses flingable nets that are sticky.
Probably simpler to suggest adhesive, or otherwise sticky, tendrils which are attached diametrically and used to rotate, translate, and maybe change configuration if you have enough attachments.
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In the Niven / Pournelle classic Footfall, they speculate regarding an alien species that is extremely reminiscent of Earth's elephants. This hypothetical species uses its trunk as a "hand".
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See above, those would be the Puppeteers.
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Aug 13 at 5:50
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@jwenting Footfall takes place in out universe, the Puppeteers are from another one.
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Really small sticky hair with fine control
Let's not think octopus. Let's think Geckos.
Geckos can stick to surfaces because their bulbous toes are covered in hundreds of tiny microscopic hairs called setae. Each seta splits off into hundreds of even smaller bristles called spatulae. Scientists already knew that the tufts of tiny hairs get so close to the contours in walls and ceilings that the van der Waals force kicks in. This type of physical bond happens when electrons from the gecko hair molecules and electrons from the wall molecules interact with each other and create an electromagnetic attraction.
Now researchers have discovered how a balance of forces acting on the gecko and the angle of its toe hairs contribute to the creature's sticking success. The system makes it possible for geckos to stick and unstick their feet so quickly that they can scurry across surfaces at 20 body lengths per second.
Let's say your aliens are arachnids, and the spidery-like points of your legs have small, sticky hairs that have evolved over time to provide you with "fine hair control." You can roll a coin around the tip of your leg and even flip it into the air with the hair control. Your human friends watch in amazement as you manipulate delicate tools and parts with ease.
After which you can climb the wall to get to breakfast on the 2nd floor.
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Would you consider echinoderm tube feet to be a subtrope of "tiny hairs"
â James K
Aug 12 at 8:41
@JamesK, I don't know enough about starfish, etc., to be a clear judge, but the tubes feel more like suckers to me than hair using Van der Wall force for adhesion. But that's admittedly a guess on my part.
â JBH
Aug 12 at 12:31
so basically lots and lots of tiny tentacles, almost like tube feet on starfish.
â John
Aug 12 at 14:45
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@John A tentacle is something that wraps around the screwdriver. Tube feet are something that suction to the screwdriver. Setae are tiny hairs that adhere to the screwdriver via Van der Waal force. So, no, not basically lots of tiny tentacles or like tube feet. They are all "grasping" the screwdriver in very different ways. Keep in mind that the fact that Octopi have both tentacles and suckers doesn't mean they use the suckers to grasp. A monkey's prehensile tail would be an example of a tentacle as would any sentient snake.
â JBH
Aug 12 at 15:52
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This answer really got me thinking. The hairs that mediate VanDerWaals interactions for geckos are molecular small. But there are definitely microscopic appendages even smaller than setae - cilia and flagella. Humans live in a world that extends down to about 0.1mm - the limit of our perceptions. I am thinking of a creature with prehensile flagella-like structures. Their worlds could extend down much farther than ours. Very cool idea!
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Aug 12 at 16:55
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Really small sticky hair with fine control
Let's not think octopus. Let's think Geckos.
Geckos can stick to surfaces because their bulbous toes are covered in hundreds of tiny microscopic hairs called setae. Each seta splits off into hundreds of even smaller bristles called spatulae. Scientists already knew that the tufts of tiny hairs get so close to the contours in walls and ceilings that the van der Waals force kicks in. This type of physical bond happens when electrons from the gecko hair molecules and electrons from the wall molecules interact with each other and create an electromagnetic attraction.
Now researchers have discovered how a balance of forces acting on the gecko and the angle of its toe hairs contribute to the creature's sticking success. The system makes it possible for geckos to stick and unstick their feet so quickly that they can scurry across surfaces at 20 body lengths per second.
Let's say your aliens are arachnids, and the spidery-like points of your legs have small, sticky hairs that have evolved over time to provide you with "fine hair control." You can roll a coin around the tip of your leg and even flip it into the air with the hair control. Your human friends watch in amazement as you manipulate delicate tools and parts with ease.
After which you can climb the wall to get to breakfast on the 2nd floor.
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Would you consider echinoderm tube feet to be a subtrope of "tiny hairs"
â James K
Aug 12 at 8:41
@JamesK, I don't know enough about starfish, etc., to be a clear judge, but the tubes feel more like suckers to me than hair using Van der Wall force for adhesion. But that's admittedly a guess on my part.
â JBH
Aug 12 at 12:31
so basically lots and lots of tiny tentacles, almost like tube feet on starfish.
â John
Aug 12 at 14:45
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@John A tentacle is something that wraps around the screwdriver. Tube feet are something that suction to the screwdriver. Setae are tiny hairs that adhere to the screwdriver via Van der Waal force. So, no, not basically lots of tiny tentacles or like tube feet. They are all "grasping" the screwdriver in very different ways. Keep in mind that the fact that Octopi have both tentacles and suckers doesn't mean they use the suckers to grasp. A monkey's prehensile tail would be an example of a tentacle as would any sentient snake.
â JBH
Aug 12 at 15:52
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This answer really got me thinking. The hairs that mediate VanDerWaals interactions for geckos are molecular small. But there are definitely microscopic appendages even smaller than setae - cilia and flagella. Humans live in a world that extends down to about 0.1mm - the limit of our perceptions. I am thinking of a creature with prehensile flagella-like structures. Their worlds could extend down much farther than ours. Very cool idea!
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Really small sticky hair with fine control
Let's not think octopus. Let's think Geckos.
Geckos can stick to surfaces because their bulbous toes are covered in hundreds of tiny microscopic hairs called setae. Each seta splits off into hundreds of even smaller bristles called spatulae. Scientists already knew that the tufts of tiny hairs get so close to the contours in walls and ceilings that the van der Waals force kicks in. This type of physical bond happens when electrons from the gecko hair molecules and electrons from the wall molecules interact with each other and create an electromagnetic attraction.
Now researchers have discovered how a balance of forces acting on the gecko and the angle of its toe hairs contribute to the creature's sticking success. The system makes it possible for geckos to stick and unstick their feet so quickly that they can scurry across surfaces at 20 body lengths per second.
Let's say your aliens are arachnids, and the spidery-like points of your legs have small, sticky hairs that have evolved over time to provide you with "fine hair control." You can roll a coin around the tip of your leg and even flip it into the air with the hair control. Your human friends watch in amazement as you manipulate delicate tools and parts with ease.
After which you can climb the wall to get to breakfast on the 2nd floor.
Really small sticky hair with fine control
Let's not think octopus. Let's think Geckos.
Geckos can stick to surfaces because their bulbous toes are covered in hundreds of tiny microscopic hairs called setae. Each seta splits off into hundreds of even smaller bristles called spatulae. Scientists already knew that the tufts of tiny hairs get so close to the contours in walls and ceilings that the van der Waals force kicks in. This type of physical bond happens when electrons from the gecko hair molecules and electrons from the wall molecules interact with each other and create an electromagnetic attraction.
Now researchers have discovered how a balance of forces acting on the gecko and the angle of its toe hairs contribute to the creature's sticking success. The system makes it possible for geckos to stick and unstick their feet so quickly that they can scurry across surfaces at 20 body lengths per second.
Let's say your aliens are arachnids, and the spidery-like points of your legs have small, sticky hairs that have evolved over time to provide you with "fine hair control." You can roll a coin around the tip of your leg and even flip it into the air with the hair control. Your human friends watch in amazement as you manipulate delicate tools and parts with ease.
After which you can climb the wall to get to breakfast on the 2nd floor.
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Would you consider echinoderm tube feet to be a subtrope of "tiny hairs"
â James K
Aug 12 at 8:41
@JamesK, I don't know enough about starfish, etc., to be a clear judge, but the tubes feel more like suckers to me than hair using Van der Wall force for adhesion. But that's admittedly a guess on my part.
â JBH
Aug 12 at 12:31
so basically lots and lots of tiny tentacles, almost like tube feet on starfish.
â John
Aug 12 at 14:45
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@John A tentacle is something that wraps around the screwdriver. Tube feet are something that suction to the screwdriver. Setae are tiny hairs that adhere to the screwdriver via Van der Waal force. So, no, not basically lots of tiny tentacles or like tube feet. They are all "grasping" the screwdriver in very different ways. Keep in mind that the fact that Octopi have both tentacles and suckers doesn't mean they use the suckers to grasp. A monkey's prehensile tail would be an example of a tentacle as would any sentient snake.
â JBH
Aug 12 at 15:52
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This answer really got me thinking. The hairs that mediate VanDerWaals interactions for geckos are molecular small. But there are definitely microscopic appendages even smaller than setae - cilia and flagella. Humans live in a world that extends down to about 0.1mm - the limit of our perceptions. I am thinking of a creature with prehensile flagella-like structures. Their worlds could extend down much farther than ours. Very cool idea!
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Would you consider echinoderm tube feet to be a subtrope of "tiny hairs"
â James K
Aug 12 at 8:41
@JamesK, I don't know enough about starfish, etc., to be a clear judge, but the tubes feel more like suckers to me than hair using Van der Wall force for adhesion. But that's admittedly a guess on my part.
â JBH
Aug 12 at 12:31
so basically lots and lots of tiny tentacles, almost like tube feet on starfish.
â John
Aug 12 at 14:45
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@John A tentacle is something that wraps around the screwdriver. Tube feet are something that suction to the screwdriver. Setae are tiny hairs that adhere to the screwdriver via Van der Waal force. So, no, not basically lots of tiny tentacles or like tube feet. They are all "grasping" the screwdriver in very different ways. Keep in mind that the fact that Octopi have both tentacles and suckers doesn't mean they use the suckers to grasp. A monkey's prehensile tail would be an example of a tentacle as would any sentient snake.
â JBH
Aug 12 at 15:52
2
This answer really got me thinking. The hairs that mediate VanDerWaals interactions for geckos are molecular small. But there are definitely microscopic appendages even smaller than setae - cilia and flagella. Humans live in a world that extends down to about 0.1mm - the limit of our perceptions. I am thinking of a creature with prehensile flagella-like structures. Their worlds could extend down much farther than ours. Very cool idea!
â Willk
Aug 12 at 16:55
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1
Would you consider echinoderm tube feet to be a subtrope of "tiny hairs"
â James K
Aug 12 at 8:41
Would you consider echinoderm tube feet to be a subtrope of "tiny hairs"
â James K
Aug 12 at 8:41
@JamesK, I don't know enough about starfish, etc., to be a clear judge, but the tubes feel more like suckers to me than hair using Van der Wall force for adhesion. But that's admittedly a guess on my part.
â JBH
Aug 12 at 12:31
@JamesK, I don't know enough about starfish, etc., to be a clear judge, but the tubes feel more like suckers to me than hair using Van der Wall force for adhesion. But that's admittedly a guess on my part.
â JBH
Aug 12 at 12:31
so basically lots and lots of tiny tentacles, almost like tube feet on starfish.
â John
Aug 12 at 14:45
so basically lots and lots of tiny tentacles, almost like tube feet on starfish.
â John
Aug 12 at 14:45
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6
@John A tentacle is something that wraps around the screwdriver. Tube feet are something that suction to the screwdriver. Setae are tiny hairs that adhere to the screwdriver via Van der Waal force. So, no, not basically lots of tiny tentacles or like tube feet. They are all "grasping" the screwdriver in very different ways. Keep in mind that the fact that Octopi have both tentacles and suckers doesn't mean they use the suckers to grasp. A monkey's prehensile tail would be an example of a tentacle as would any sentient snake.
â JBH
Aug 12 at 15:52
@John A tentacle is something that wraps around the screwdriver. Tube feet are something that suction to the screwdriver. Setae are tiny hairs that adhere to the screwdriver via Van der Waal force. So, no, not basically lots of tiny tentacles or like tube feet. They are all "grasping" the screwdriver in very different ways. Keep in mind that the fact that Octopi have both tentacles and suckers doesn't mean they use the suckers to grasp. A monkey's prehensile tail would be an example of a tentacle as would any sentient snake.
â JBH
Aug 12 at 15:52
2
2
This answer really got me thinking. The hairs that mediate VanDerWaals interactions for geckos are molecular small. But there are definitely microscopic appendages even smaller than setae - cilia and flagella. Humans live in a world that extends down to about 0.1mm - the limit of our perceptions. I am thinking of a creature with prehensile flagella-like structures. Their worlds could extend down much farther than ours. Very cool idea!
â Willk
Aug 12 at 16:55
This answer really got me thinking. The hairs that mediate VanDerWaals interactions for geckos are molecular small. But there are definitely microscopic appendages even smaller than setae - cilia and flagella. Humans live in a world that extends down to about 0.1mm - the limit of our perceptions. I am thinking of a creature with prehensile flagella-like structures. Their worlds could extend down much farther than ours. Very cool idea!
â Willk
Aug 12 at 16:55
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Beak.
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-crows-hooked-tools-20180122-story.html
Corvids and especially New Caledonian crows can use tools. The New Caledonian crows actually make their curved stick tools, which they use to fish for grubs. The New Caledonian crow beaks are adapted for this.
https://corvidresearch.blog/2016/03/17/why-the-crow-smiles/
By using tomography scans, Hiroshi Matsui and his team were able to
compare the shape and structure of the NC crowâÂÂs bill with that of its
close relatives. Their conclusion, which they report in the March
issue of Scientific Reports, is that this shape makes the handling and
manufacturing of tools easier. Looking at photos of the birds in
action, it feels intuitive that the more exaggerated curve of a raven
or American crow bill would have a hard time achieving the dexterity
that NC crows need to use their stick and hook tools.
If birds don't do it for you, you could create a creature in which each pincher-like claw functioned the same way as a crow's beak. Some existing creatures have many claws.
https://ncfscience.org/2013/05/07/horseshoecrabs/
3
What the hell is that brown thing with all the pincers? I feel like it's on me.
â Wilson
Aug 12 at 8:30
9
Horseshoe crab. Not actually a crab, or even a crustacean, but actually related to arachnids, and perhaps ancient sea scorpions
â James K
Aug 12 at 8:37
And they have a funny colour of blood that is tapped for medical reagent production.
â KalleMP
Aug 13 at 7:37
6
Now that I scrolled down that image, how I can scroll up again for the upvote?
â Mixxiphoid
Aug 13 at 11:14
1
Aren't beaks just jointed digits but with only one join instead of multiple? They still rely on stiff parts + hinge joints.
â Pyritie
Aug 13 at 16:41
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Beak.
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-crows-hooked-tools-20180122-story.html
Corvids and especially New Caledonian crows can use tools. The New Caledonian crows actually make their curved stick tools, which they use to fish for grubs. The New Caledonian crow beaks are adapted for this.
https://corvidresearch.blog/2016/03/17/why-the-crow-smiles/
By using tomography scans, Hiroshi Matsui and his team were able to
compare the shape and structure of the NC crowâÂÂs bill with that of its
close relatives. Their conclusion, which they report in the March
issue of Scientific Reports, is that this shape makes the handling and
manufacturing of tools easier. Looking at photos of the birds in
action, it feels intuitive that the more exaggerated curve of a raven
or American crow bill would have a hard time achieving the dexterity
that NC crows need to use their stick and hook tools.
If birds don't do it for you, you could create a creature in which each pincher-like claw functioned the same way as a crow's beak. Some existing creatures have many claws.
https://ncfscience.org/2013/05/07/horseshoecrabs/
3
What the hell is that brown thing with all the pincers? I feel like it's on me.
â Wilson
Aug 12 at 8:30
9
Horseshoe crab. Not actually a crab, or even a crustacean, but actually related to arachnids, and perhaps ancient sea scorpions
â James K
Aug 12 at 8:37
And they have a funny colour of blood that is tapped for medical reagent production.
â KalleMP
Aug 13 at 7:37
6
Now that I scrolled down that image, how I can scroll up again for the upvote?
â Mixxiphoid
Aug 13 at 11:14
1
Aren't beaks just jointed digits but with only one join instead of multiple? They still rely on stiff parts + hinge joints.
â Pyritie
Aug 13 at 16:41
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up vote
21
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up vote
21
down vote
Beak.
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-crows-hooked-tools-20180122-story.html
Corvids and especially New Caledonian crows can use tools. The New Caledonian crows actually make their curved stick tools, which they use to fish for grubs. The New Caledonian crow beaks are adapted for this.
https://corvidresearch.blog/2016/03/17/why-the-crow-smiles/
By using tomography scans, Hiroshi Matsui and his team were able to
compare the shape and structure of the NC crowâÂÂs bill with that of its
close relatives. Their conclusion, which they report in the March
issue of Scientific Reports, is that this shape makes the handling and
manufacturing of tools easier. Looking at photos of the birds in
action, it feels intuitive that the more exaggerated curve of a raven
or American crow bill would have a hard time achieving the dexterity
that NC crows need to use their stick and hook tools.
If birds don't do it for you, you could create a creature in which each pincher-like claw functioned the same way as a crow's beak. Some existing creatures have many claws.
https://ncfscience.org/2013/05/07/horseshoecrabs/
Beak.
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-crows-hooked-tools-20180122-story.html
Corvids and especially New Caledonian crows can use tools. The New Caledonian crows actually make their curved stick tools, which they use to fish for grubs. The New Caledonian crow beaks are adapted for this.
https://corvidresearch.blog/2016/03/17/why-the-crow-smiles/
By using tomography scans, Hiroshi Matsui and his team were able to
compare the shape and structure of the NC crowâÂÂs bill with that of its
close relatives. Their conclusion, which they report in the March
issue of Scientific Reports, is that this shape makes the handling and
manufacturing of tools easier. Looking at photos of the birds in
action, it feels intuitive that the more exaggerated curve of a raven
or American crow bill would have a hard time achieving the dexterity
that NC crows need to use their stick and hook tools.
If birds don't do it for you, you could create a creature in which each pincher-like claw functioned the same way as a crow's beak. Some existing creatures have many claws.
https://ncfscience.org/2013/05/07/horseshoecrabs/
answered Aug 12 at 4:24
Willk
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3
What the hell is that brown thing with all the pincers? I feel like it's on me.
â Wilson
Aug 12 at 8:30
9
Horseshoe crab. Not actually a crab, or even a crustacean, but actually related to arachnids, and perhaps ancient sea scorpions
â James K
Aug 12 at 8:37
And they have a funny colour of blood that is tapped for medical reagent production.
â KalleMP
Aug 13 at 7:37
6
Now that I scrolled down that image, how I can scroll up again for the upvote?
â Mixxiphoid
Aug 13 at 11:14
1
Aren't beaks just jointed digits but with only one join instead of multiple? They still rely on stiff parts + hinge joints.
â Pyritie
Aug 13 at 16:41
add a comment |Â
3
What the hell is that brown thing with all the pincers? I feel like it's on me.
â Wilson
Aug 12 at 8:30
9
Horseshoe crab. Not actually a crab, or even a crustacean, but actually related to arachnids, and perhaps ancient sea scorpions
â James K
Aug 12 at 8:37
And they have a funny colour of blood that is tapped for medical reagent production.
â KalleMP
Aug 13 at 7:37
6
Now that I scrolled down that image, how I can scroll up again for the upvote?
â Mixxiphoid
Aug 13 at 11:14
1
Aren't beaks just jointed digits but with only one join instead of multiple? They still rely on stiff parts + hinge joints.
â Pyritie
Aug 13 at 16:41
3
3
What the hell is that brown thing with all the pincers? I feel like it's on me.
â Wilson
Aug 12 at 8:30
What the hell is that brown thing with all the pincers? I feel like it's on me.
â Wilson
Aug 12 at 8:30
9
9
Horseshoe crab. Not actually a crab, or even a crustacean, but actually related to arachnids, and perhaps ancient sea scorpions
â James K
Aug 12 at 8:37
Horseshoe crab. Not actually a crab, or even a crustacean, but actually related to arachnids, and perhaps ancient sea scorpions
â James K
Aug 12 at 8:37
And they have a funny colour of blood that is tapped for medical reagent production.
â KalleMP
Aug 13 at 7:37
And they have a funny colour of blood that is tapped for medical reagent production.
â KalleMP
Aug 13 at 7:37
6
6
Now that I scrolled down that image, how I can scroll up again for the upvote?
â Mixxiphoid
Aug 13 at 11:14
Now that I scrolled down that image, how I can scroll up again for the upvote?
â Mixxiphoid
Aug 13 at 11:14
1
1
Aren't beaks just jointed digits but with only one join instead of multiple? They still rely on stiff parts + hinge joints.
â Pyritie
Aug 13 at 16:41
Aren't beaks just jointed digits but with only one join instead of multiple? They still rely on stiff parts + hinge joints.
â Pyritie
Aug 13 at 16:41
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Tongue has no bones but is pretty dextrous, elephants trunk is even better since it can grasp objects.
So your creatures could have muscular appendages like those with apposing surfaces for fine grip.
9
Aren't those kinda like tentacles?
â Starpilot
Aug 12 at 3:39
16
A human tongue is a tiny tentacle inside your mouth. That's the kind of thing I'll now have to cope with having in my mind. Thank you.
â John Dvorak
Aug 12 at 10:10
1
@johndvorak it is called a en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_hydrostat - and you were correct. So when a person puts the tongue to .... it is actually akin to a tentacle doing the same thing... And now we can't unseen it.
â Mindwin
Aug 13 at 16:28
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up vote
10
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Tongue has no bones but is pretty dextrous, elephants trunk is even better since it can grasp objects.
So your creatures could have muscular appendages like those with apposing surfaces for fine grip.
9
Aren't those kinda like tentacles?
â Starpilot
Aug 12 at 3:39
16
A human tongue is a tiny tentacle inside your mouth. That's the kind of thing I'll now have to cope with having in my mind. Thank you.
â John Dvorak
Aug 12 at 10:10
1
@johndvorak it is called a en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_hydrostat - and you were correct. So when a person puts the tongue to .... it is actually akin to a tentacle doing the same thing... And now we can't unseen it.
â Mindwin
Aug 13 at 16:28
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up vote
10
down vote
up vote
10
down vote
Tongue has no bones but is pretty dextrous, elephants trunk is even better since it can grasp objects.
So your creatures could have muscular appendages like those with apposing surfaces for fine grip.
Tongue has no bones but is pretty dextrous, elephants trunk is even better since it can grasp objects.
So your creatures could have muscular appendages like those with apposing surfaces for fine grip.
answered Aug 12 at 0:53
Kilisi
11.1k12054
11.1k12054
9
Aren't those kinda like tentacles?
â Starpilot
Aug 12 at 3:39
16
A human tongue is a tiny tentacle inside your mouth. That's the kind of thing I'll now have to cope with having in my mind. Thank you.
â John Dvorak
Aug 12 at 10:10
1
@johndvorak it is called a en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_hydrostat - and you were correct. So when a person puts the tongue to .... it is actually akin to a tentacle doing the same thing... And now we can't unseen it.
â Mindwin
Aug 13 at 16:28
add a comment |Â
9
Aren't those kinda like tentacles?
â Starpilot
Aug 12 at 3:39
16
A human tongue is a tiny tentacle inside your mouth. That's the kind of thing I'll now have to cope with having in my mind. Thank you.
â John Dvorak
Aug 12 at 10:10
1
@johndvorak it is called a en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_hydrostat - and you were correct. So when a person puts the tongue to .... it is actually akin to a tentacle doing the same thing... And now we can't unseen it.
â Mindwin
Aug 13 at 16:28
9
9
Aren't those kinda like tentacles?
â Starpilot
Aug 12 at 3:39
Aren't those kinda like tentacles?
â Starpilot
Aug 12 at 3:39
16
16
A human tongue is a tiny tentacle inside your mouth. That's the kind of thing I'll now have to cope with having in my mind. Thank you.
â John Dvorak
Aug 12 at 10:10
A human tongue is a tiny tentacle inside your mouth. That's the kind of thing I'll now have to cope with having in my mind. Thank you.
â John Dvorak
Aug 12 at 10:10
1
1
@johndvorak it is called a en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_hydrostat - and you were correct. So when a person puts the tongue to .... it is actually akin to a tentacle doing the same thing... And now we can't unseen it.
â Mindwin
Aug 13 at 16:28
@johndvorak it is called a en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscular_hydrostat - and you were correct. So when a person puts the tongue to .... it is actually akin to a tentacle doing the same thing... And now we can't unseen it.
â Mindwin
Aug 13 at 16:28
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9
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Larry Niven came up with something. The pearson's puppeteers use their mouths and knobby muscular lips. they can get extra strength from hte jaws or fine manipulation from the knobs, which are purely muscular. Here is just one of many sketches of how they work for Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials.
sorta disturbing but thats probably my favorite idea.
â tox123
Aug 12 at 19:10
1
It helps t the puppeteers have two mouths on two heads each on the end of a long neck, and their brains are in their torso.
â John
Aug 12 at 20:31
was this in ring world? I vaguely remember something like this in there should I reread it?
â tox123
Aug 12 at 22:38
yes, the puppeteers pop up in nearly every known space book. Barlowe's art of them is my favorite, they really look like real creatures.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierson%27s_Puppeteers#/media/â¦
â John
Aug 12 at 23:05
1
Never described in that anatomical much detail, it is certainly possible.
â John
Aug 13 at 15:43
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up vote
9
down vote
Larry Niven came up with something. The pearson's puppeteers use their mouths and knobby muscular lips. they can get extra strength from hte jaws or fine manipulation from the knobs, which are purely muscular. Here is just one of many sketches of how they work for Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials.
sorta disturbing but thats probably my favorite idea.
â tox123
Aug 12 at 19:10
1
It helps t the puppeteers have two mouths on two heads each on the end of a long neck, and their brains are in their torso.
â John
Aug 12 at 20:31
was this in ring world? I vaguely remember something like this in there should I reread it?
â tox123
Aug 12 at 22:38
yes, the puppeteers pop up in nearly every known space book. Barlowe's art of them is my favorite, they really look like real creatures.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierson%27s_Puppeteers#/media/â¦
â John
Aug 12 at 23:05
1
Never described in that anatomical much detail, it is certainly possible.
â John
Aug 13 at 15:43
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up vote
9
down vote
up vote
9
down vote
Larry Niven came up with something. The pearson's puppeteers use their mouths and knobby muscular lips. they can get extra strength from hte jaws or fine manipulation from the knobs, which are purely muscular. Here is just one of many sketches of how they work for Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials.
Larry Niven came up with something. The pearson's puppeteers use their mouths and knobby muscular lips. they can get extra strength from hte jaws or fine manipulation from the knobs, which are purely muscular. Here is just one of many sketches of how they work for Barlowe's Guide to Extraterrestrials.
answered Aug 12 at 15:24
John
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sorta disturbing but thats probably my favorite idea.
â tox123
Aug 12 at 19:10
1
It helps t the puppeteers have two mouths on two heads each on the end of a long neck, and their brains are in their torso.
â John
Aug 12 at 20:31
was this in ring world? I vaguely remember something like this in there should I reread it?
â tox123
Aug 12 at 22:38
yes, the puppeteers pop up in nearly every known space book. Barlowe's art of them is my favorite, they really look like real creatures.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierson%27s_Puppeteers#/media/â¦
â John
Aug 12 at 23:05
1
Never described in that anatomical much detail, it is certainly possible.
â John
Aug 13 at 15:43
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sorta disturbing but thats probably my favorite idea.
â tox123
Aug 12 at 19:10
1
It helps t the puppeteers have two mouths on two heads each on the end of a long neck, and their brains are in their torso.
â John
Aug 12 at 20:31
was this in ring world? I vaguely remember something like this in there should I reread it?
â tox123
Aug 12 at 22:38
yes, the puppeteers pop up in nearly every known space book. Barlowe's art of them is my favorite, they really look like real creatures.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierson%27s_Puppeteers#/media/â¦
â John
Aug 12 at 23:05
1
Never described in that anatomical much detail, it is certainly possible.
â John
Aug 13 at 15:43
sorta disturbing but thats probably my favorite idea.
â tox123
Aug 12 at 19:10
sorta disturbing but thats probably my favorite idea.
â tox123
Aug 12 at 19:10
1
1
It helps t the puppeteers have two mouths on two heads each on the end of a long neck, and their brains are in their torso.
â John
Aug 12 at 20:31
It helps t the puppeteers have two mouths on two heads each on the end of a long neck, and their brains are in their torso.
â John
Aug 12 at 20:31
was this in ring world? I vaguely remember something like this in there should I reread it?
â tox123
Aug 12 at 22:38
was this in ring world? I vaguely remember something like this in there should I reread it?
â tox123
Aug 12 at 22:38
yes, the puppeteers pop up in nearly every known space book. Barlowe's art of them is my favorite, they really look like real creatures.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierson%27s_Puppeteers#/media/â¦
â John
Aug 12 at 23:05
yes, the puppeteers pop up in nearly every known space book. Barlowe's art of them is my favorite, they really look like real creatures.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierson%27s_Puppeteers#/media/â¦
â John
Aug 12 at 23:05
1
1
Never described in that anatomical much detail, it is certainly possible.
â John
Aug 13 at 15:43
Never described in that anatomical much detail, it is certainly possible.
â John
Aug 13 at 15:43
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Here are some ideas:
Magnetolike:
The ability to create strong magnetic fields in order to suspend ferromagnetic and paramagnetic materials.
Acoustic:
Using varieties of sound waves to levitate objects (use tools with higher amounts of precision)
Symbiotic creatures:
A symbiotic nervous relationship with another organism that has grasping power (head crabs from halflife)
Tails:
I don't even need to tell you about monkeys and their fifth hand.
Will add more if I can think of any.
â Debaditya
Aug 12 at 14:30
Acoustic seems like it could get pretty hand wavy and filled with PDEs that would be nightmarish
â tox123
Aug 12 at 15:13
3
Also derp magnetic?
â tox123
Aug 12 at 15:13
2
@tox123 Probably meant to say ferromagnetic. D for F, missing an R, and P for O. (I'll resist the South Park joke, now.)
â can-ned_food
Aug 13 at 2:03
@tox123 You know, we know how to throw and catch things without having to know the physics behind their weird trajectories. So it doesn't make sense why LDEs will be involved is utilizing the idea of acoustic.
â Debaditya
Aug 13 at 11:09
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up vote
8
down vote
Here are some ideas:
Magnetolike:
The ability to create strong magnetic fields in order to suspend ferromagnetic and paramagnetic materials.
Acoustic:
Using varieties of sound waves to levitate objects (use tools with higher amounts of precision)
Symbiotic creatures:
A symbiotic nervous relationship with another organism that has grasping power (head crabs from halflife)
Tails:
I don't even need to tell you about monkeys and their fifth hand.
Will add more if I can think of any.
â Debaditya
Aug 12 at 14:30
Acoustic seems like it could get pretty hand wavy and filled with PDEs that would be nightmarish
â tox123
Aug 12 at 15:13
3
Also derp magnetic?
â tox123
Aug 12 at 15:13
2
@tox123 Probably meant to say ferromagnetic. D for F, missing an R, and P for O. (I'll resist the South Park joke, now.)
â can-ned_food
Aug 13 at 2:03
@tox123 You know, we know how to throw and catch things without having to know the physics behind their weird trajectories. So it doesn't make sense why LDEs will be involved is utilizing the idea of acoustic.
â Debaditya
Aug 13 at 11:09
 |Â
show 2 more comments
up vote
8
down vote
up vote
8
down vote
Here are some ideas:
Magnetolike:
The ability to create strong magnetic fields in order to suspend ferromagnetic and paramagnetic materials.
Acoustic:
Using varieties of sound waves to levitate objects (use tools with higher amounts of precision)
Symbiotic creatures:
A symbiotic nervous relationship with another organism that has grasping power (head crabs from halflife)
Tails:
I don't even need to tell you about monkeys and their fifth hand.
Here are some ideas:
Magnetolike:
The ability to create strong magnetic fields in order to suspend ferromagnetic and paramagnetic materials.
Acoustic:
Using varieties of sound waves to levitate objects (use tools with higher amounts of precision)
Symbiotic creatures:
A symbiotic nervous relationship with another organism that has grasping power (head crabs from halflife)
Tails:
I don't even need to tell you about monkeys and their fifth hand.
edited Aug 13 at 2:49
can-ned_food
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1,4451723
answered Aug 12 at 14:30
Debaditya
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Will add more if I can think of any.
â Debaditya
Aug 12 at 14:30
Acoustic seems like it could get pretty hand wavy and filled with PDEs that would be nightmarish
â tox123
Aug 12 at 15:13
3
Also derp magnetic?
â tox123
Aug 12 at 15:13
2
@tox123 Probably meant to say ferromagnetic. D for F, missing an R, and P for O. (I'll resist the South Park joke, now.)
â can-ned_food
Aug 13 at 2:03
@tox123 You know, we know how to throw and catch things without having to know the physics behind their weird trajectories. So it doesn't make sense why LDEs will be involved is utilizing the idea of acoustic.
â Debaditya
Aug 13 at 11:09
 |Â
show 2 more comments
Will add more if I can think of any.
â Debaditya
Aug 12 at 14:30
Acoustic seems like it could get pretty hand wavy and filled with PDEs that would be nightmarish
â tox123
Aug 12 at 15:13
3
Also derp magnetic?
â tox123
Aug 12 at 15:13
2
@tox123 Probably meant to say ferromagnetic. D for F, missing an R, and P for O. (I'll resist the South Park joke, now.)
â can-ned_food
Aug 13 at 2:03
@tox123 You know, we know how to throw and catch things without having to know the physics behind their weird trajectories. So it doesn't make sense why LDEs will be involved is utilizing the idea of acoustic.
â Debaditya
Aug 13 at 11:09
Will add more if I can think of any.
â Debaditya
Aug 12 at 14:30
Will add more if I can think of any.
â Debaditya
Aug 12 at 14:30
Acoustic seems like it could get pretty hand wavy and filled with PDEs that would be nightmarish
â tox123
Aug 12 at 15:13
Acoustic seems like it could get pretty hand wavy and filled with PDEs that would be nightmarish
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Aug 12 at 15:13
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Also derp magnetic?
â tox123
Aug 12 at 15:13
Also derp magnetic?
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Aug 12 at 15:13
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@tox123 Probably meant to say ferromagnetic. D for F, missing an R, and P for O. (I'll resist the South Park joke, now.)
â can-ned_food
Aug 13 at 2:03
@tox123 Probably meant to say ferromagnetic. D for F, missing an R, and P for O. (I'll resist the South Park joke, now.)
â can-ned_food
Aug 13 at 2:03
@tox123 You know, we know how to throw and catch things without having to know the physics behind their weird trajectories. So it doesn't make sense why LDEs will be involved is utilizing the idea of acoustic.
â Debaditya
Aug 13 at 11:09
@tox123 You know, we know how to throw and catch things without having to know the physics behind their weird trajectories. So it doesn't make sense why LDEs will be involved is utilizing the idea of acoustic.
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Aug 13 at 11:09
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An inflatable appendage is actually a bit more practical than you might think- the University of Chicago came up with something similar a few years ago as a 'universal gripper'. In essence it's a sandbag and a vacuum with the principle of operation being the flexible outer allows the particulate matter inside to flow around the object being picked up. It then sucks all the air out of the system while pushing down, pulling the particles rigidly together. It gives you a compliant grip on anything the membrane/particulates can flow into.
A similar mechanism could be evolved pretty easily- a membrane full of ingested sand that the being inhales against to pull it together.
There's a video of it in action below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d4f8fEysf8
That's exactly the opposite of what I was think but sane method of grasping. Also that's really impressive. I think I'll combine that with @John's answer
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Aug 12 at 22:48
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An inflatable appendage is actually a bit more practical than you might think- the University of Chicago came up with something similar a few years ago as a 'universal gripper'. In essence it's a sandbag and a vacuum with the principle of operation being the flexible outer allows the particulate matter inside to flow around the object being picked up. It then sucks all the air out of the system while pushing down, pulling the particles rigidly together. It gives you a compliant grip on anything the membrane/particulates can flow into.
A similar mechanism could be evolved pretty easily- a membrane full of ingested sand that the being inhales against to pull it together.
There's a video of it in action below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d4f8fEysf8
That's exactly the opposite of what I was think but sane method of grasping. Also that's really impressive. I think I'll combine that with @John's answer
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Aug 12 at 22:48
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An inflatable appendage is actually a bit more practical than you might think- the University of Chicago came up with something similar a few years ago as a 'universal gripper'. In essence it's a sandbag and a vacuum with the principle of operation being the flexible outer allows the particulate matter inside to flow around the object being picked up. It then sucks all the air out of the system while pushing down, pulling the particles rigidly together. It gives you a compliant grip on anything the membrane/particulates can flow into.
A similar mechanism could be evolved pretty easily- a membrane full of ingested sand that the being inhales against to pull it together.
There's a video of it in action below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d4f8fEysf8
An inflatable appendage is actually a bit more practical than you might think- the University of Chicago came up with something similar a few years ago as a 'universal gripper'. In essence it's a sandbag and a vacuum with the principle of operation being the flexible outer allows the particulate matter inside to flow around the object being picked up. It then sucks all the air out of the system while pushing down, pulling the particles rigidly together. It gives you a compliant grip on anything the membrane/particulates can flow into.
A similar mechanism could be evolved pretty easily- a membrane full of ingested sand that the being inhales against to pull it together.
There's a video of it in action below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d4f8fEysf8
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That's exactly the opposite of what I was think but sane method of grasping. Also that's really impressive. I think I'll combine that with @John's answer
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That's exactly the opposite of what I was think but sane method of grasping. Also that's really impressive. I think I'll combine that with @John's answer
â tox123
Aug 12 at 22:48
That's exactly the opposite of what I was think but sane method of grasping. Also that's really impressive. I think I'll combine that with @John's answer
â tox123
Aug 12 at 22:48
That's exactly the opposite of what I was think but sane method of grasping. Also that's really impressive. I think I'll combine that with @John's answer
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Aug 12 at 22:48
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Although highly unlikely, perhaps your creatures can develop tractor beams controlled by an eye-like laser organ. This would make them telekinetic and depending on the size of the beam, this can far exceed the dexterity level provided by biomechanical manipulators like tentacles or jointed digits.
You can start by knowing that biological lasers are already possible.
This is how they worked from laboratories.
Figure a: Reflective mirrors are arranged facing each other, sandwiching a cell between them. The cell acts as the gain medium, transferring some of its energy to the light shone on it from below. The two mirrors imprison light waves that are incoherent with the cell-amplified light, allowing only the coherent amplified light to get out of the mirror prison.
Figure b: Microscopic image of the cell.
Figure c & d: Image of the coherent light emitted by the cell.
The reflective mirrors and the light source can be exchanged for biological counterparts as well. The reflective mirror can then envelope the entire cell, creating a spherical organic mirror shell. Portions of that shell can then be modified by adding lenses with controllable focal points and light sources with controllable frequencies.
There are a lot of uses for lasers other than tractor beams, but hopefully your creatures do not evolve to figure them out. If your creatures somehow learned how to freeze objects by adiabatic laser cooling or simply burn them with sheer ionizing radiation, then I don't know how much more dexterous they can get.
Using e.m. light pressure to attract masses and accelerate them toward the laser emitter would be very ⦠onerous. If you meant something else, then please include that information.
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Aug 13 at 2:07
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Although highly unlikely, perhaps your creatures can develop tractor beams controlled by an eye-like laser organ. This would make them telekinetic and depending on the size of the beam, this can far exceed the dexterity level provided by biomechanical manipulators like tentacles or jointed digits.
You can start by knowing that biological lasers are already possible.
This is how they worked from laboratories.
Figure a: Reflective mirrors are arranged facing each other, sandwiching a cell between them. The cell acts as the gain medium, transferring some of its energy to the light shone on it from below. The two mirrors imprison light waves that are incoherent with the cell-amplified light, allowing only the coherent amplified light to get out of the mirror prison.
Figure b: Microscopic image of the cell.
Figure c & d: Image of the coherent light emitted by the cell.
The reflective mirrors and the light source can be exchanged for biological counterparts as well. The reflective mirror can then envelope the entire cell, creating a spherical organic mirror shell. Portions of that shell can then be modified by adding lenses with controllable focal points and light sources with controllable frequencies.
There are a lot of uses for lasers other than tractor beams, but hopefully your creatures do not evolve to figure them out. If your creatures somehow learned how to freeze objects by adiabatic laser cooling or simply burn them with sheer ionizing radiation, then I don't know how much more dexterous they can get.
Using e.m. light pressure to attract masses and accelerate them toward the laser emitter would be very ⦠onerous. If you meant something else, then please include that information.
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Aug 13 at 2:07
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Although highly unlikely, perhaps your creatures can develop tractor beams controlled by an eye-like laser organ. This would make them telekinetic and depending on the size of the beam, this can far exceed the dexterity level provided by biomechanical manipulators like tentacles or jointed digits.
You can start by knowing that biological lasers are already possible.
This is how they worked from laboratories.
Figure a: Reflective mirrors are arranged facing each other, sandwiching a cell between them. The cell acts as the gain medium, transferring some of its energy to the light shone on it from below. The two mirrors imprison light waves that are incoherent with the cell-amplified light, allowing only the coherent amplified light to get out of the mirror prison.
Figure b: Microscopic image of the cell.
Figure c & d: Image of the coherent light emitted by the cell.
The reflective mirrors and the light source can be exchanged for biological counterparts as well. The reflective mirror can then envelope the entire cell, creating a spherical organic mirror shell. Portions of that shell can then be modified by adding lenses with controllable focal points and light sources with controllable frequencies.
There are a lot of uses for lasers other than tractor beams, but hopefully your creatures do not evolve to figure them out. If your creatures somehow learned how to freeze objects by adiabatic laser cooling or simply burn them with sheer ionizing radiation, then I don't know how much more dexterous they can get.
Although highly unlikely, perhaps your creatures can develop tractor beams controlled by an eye-like laser organ. This would make them telekinetic and depending on the size of the beam, this can far exceed the dexterity level provided by biomechanical manipulators like tentacles or jointed digits.
You can start by knowing that biological lasers are already possible.
This is how they worked from laboratories.
Figure a: Reflective mirrors are arranged facing each other, sandwiching a cell between them. The cell acts as the gain medium, transferring some of its energy to the light shone on it from below. The two mirrors imprison light waves that are incoherent with the cell-amplified light, allowing only the coherent amplified light to get out of the mirror prison.
Figure b: Microscopic image of the cell.
Figure c & d: Image of the coherent light emitted by the cell.
The reflective mirrors and the light source can be exchanged for biological counterparts as well. The reflective mirror can then envelope the entire cell, creating a spherical organic mirror shell. Portions of that shell can then be modified by adding lenses with controllable focal points and light sources with controllable frequencies.
There are a lot of uses for lasers other than tractor beams, but hopefully your creatures do not evolve to figure them out. If your creatures somehow learned how to freeze objects by adiabatic laser cooling or simply burn them with sheer ionizing radiation, then I don't know how much more dexterous they can get.
answered Aug 12 at 4:27
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Using e.m. light pressure to attract masses and accelerate them toward the laser emitter would be very ⦠onerous. If you meant something else, then please include that information.
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Using e.m. light pressure to attract masses and accelerate them toward the laser emitter would be very ⦠onerous. If you meant something else, then please include that information.
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Aug 13 at 2:07
Using e.m. light pressure to attract masses and accelerate them toward the laser emitter would be very ⦠onerous. If you meant something else, then please include that information.
â can-ned_food
Aug 13 at 2:07
Using e.m. light pressure to attract masses and accelerate them toward the laser emitter would be very ⦠onerous. If you meant something else, then please include that information.
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I'm not sure if this would count under Willik's answer, but I am sitting next to my Labrador here and she is perfectly capable of moving things with her jaws. She has a bright mind, but really it's that feature - fine motor skills - that she lacks to manipulate things carefully.
Picture an animal with four separate rows of teeth - four "jaws." In it's natural environment, it straps itself to prey and must use fine motor skills to avoid something dangerous in the animals (quills, fangs, etcetera). Once it's muscles have the animal in control, it locks down with it's jaws and consumes it whole.
The animal I just described is almost real, like a boa constrictor, which is a snake. I've seen handlers with those guys a bunch when I was younger. But surely a snake with a full brain could learn to use its jaws for more than consumption - although I shudder at the thought.
An animal with a number of teeth like that would need a mammal brain, but that would be about learning, which is more crucial than appendage, and not what you asked.
I read a book a while ago were there were aliens that consisted of packs of four to eight and used there names to hold and manipulate objects. I think the book was called fire upon the deep. Really interesting world building.
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Aug 12 at 16:25
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I'm not sure if this would count under Willik's answer, but I am sitting next to my Labrador here and she is perfectly capable of moving things with her jaws. She has a bright mind, but really it's that feature - fine motor skills - that she lacks to manipulate things carefully.
Picture an animal with four separate rows of teeth - four "jaws." In it's natural environment, it straps itself to prey and must use fine motor skills to avoid something dangerous in the animals (quills, fangs, etcetera). Once it's muscles have the animal in control, it locks down with it's jaws and consumes it whole.
The animal I just described is almost real, like a boa constrictor, which is a snake. I've seen handlers with those guys a bunch when I was younger. But surely a snake with a full brain could learn to use its jaws for more than consumption - although I shudder at the thought.
An animal with a number of teeth like that would need a mammal brain, but that would be about learning, which is more crucial than appendage, and not what you asked.
I read a book a while ago were there were aliens that consisted of packs of four to eight and used there names to hold and manipulate objects. I think the book was called fire upon the deep. Really interesting world building.
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Aug 12 at 16:25
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I'm not sure if this would count under Willik's answer, but I am sitting next to my Labrador here and she is perfectly capable of moving things with her jaws. She has a bright mind, but really it's that feature - fine motor skills - that she lacks to manipulate things carefully.
Picture an animal with four separate rows of teeth - four "jaws." In it's natural environment, it straps itself to prey and must use fine motor skills to avoid something dangerous in the animals (quills, fangs, etcetera). Once it's muscles have the animal in control, it locks down with it's jaws and consumes it whole.
The animal I just described is almost real, like a boa constrictor, which is a snake. I've seen handlers with those guys a bunch when I was younger. But surely a snake with a full brain could learn to use its jaws for more than consumption - although I shudder at the thought.
An animal with a number of teeth like that would need a mammal brain, but that would be about learning, which is more crucial than appendage, and not what you asked.
I'm not sure if this would count under Willik's answer, but I am sitting next to my Labrador here and she is perfectly capable of moving things with her jaws. She has a bright mind, but really it's that feature - fine motor skills - that she lacks to manipulate things carefully.
Picture an animal with four separate rows of teeth - four "jaws." In it's natural environment, it straps itself to prey and must use fine motor skills to avoid something dangerous in the animals (quills, fangs, etcetera). Once it's muscles have the animal in control, it locks down with it's jaws and consumes it whole.
The animal I just described is almost real, like a boa constrictor, which is a snake. I've seen handlers with those guys a bunch when I was younger. But surely a snake with a full brain could learn to use its jaws for more than consumption - although I shudder at the thought.
An animal with a number of teeth like that would need a mammal brain, but that would be about learning, which is more crucial than appendage, and not what you asked.
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I read a book a while ago were there were aliens that consisted of packs of four to eight and used there names to hold and manipulate objects. I think the book was called fire upon the deep. Really interesting world building.
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Aug 12 at 16:25
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I read a book a while ago were there were aliens that consisted of packs of four to eight and used there names to hold and manipulate objects. I think the book was called fire upon the deep. Really interesting world building.
â tox123
Aug 12 at 16:25
I read a book a while ago were there were aliens that consisted of packs of four to eight and used there names to hold and manipulate objects. I think the book was called fire upon the deep. Really interesting world building.
â tox123
Aug 12 at 16:25
I read a book a while ago were there were aliens that consisted of packs of four to eight and used there names to hold and manipulate objects. I think the book was called fire upon the deep. Really interesting world building.
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Aug 12 at 16:25
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How about air or water jets? I think of a nose with many independently orientable openings, that can finely manipulate air streams.
For such a life form tool use would probably look very different from us. Rather than a knife, they might use a stream of sand for cutting. For more human like tools holding them might be more akin to juggling them between air streams.
This sort of alien could have evolved to handle very hot or poisonous objects, that it can't touch directly.
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How about air or water jets? I think of a nose with many independently orientable openings, that can finely manipulate air streams.
For such a life form tool use would probably look very different from us. Rather than a knife, they might use a stream of sand for cutting. For more human like tools holding them might be more akin to juggling them between air streams.
This sort of alien could have evolved to handle very hot or poisonous objects, that it can't touch directly.
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How about air or water jets? I think of a nose with many independently orientable openings, that can finely manipulate air streams.
For such a life form tool use would probably look very different from us. Rather than a knife, they might use a stream of sand for cutting. For more human like tools holding them might be more akin to juggling them between air streams.
This sort of alien could have evolved to handle very hot or poisonous objects, that it can't touch directly.
How about air or water jets? I think of a nose with many independently orientable openings, that can finely manipulate air streams.
For such a life form tool use would probably look very different from us. Rather than a knife, they might use a stream of sand for cutting. For more human like tools holding them might be more akin to juggling them between air streams.
This sort of alien could have evolved to handle very hot or poisonous objects, that it can't touch directly.
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Engulfing Hydrostatic Gel
Your hypothetical creature can fill a compartment of its body (like a mouth or pocket) or just cover the object with a thick goop which is laced with muscular fibres. With concentration, the creature can manipulate the fibres to pull and push various parts of the goop in meaningful ways.
This would allow the creature to manipulate the inner workings of a mechanism without opening the case any more than necessary to unseal it
More can be achieved if the gel can be made sticky selectively to grip objects inside it.
I'm imagining an evolution of something similar to the dendrites of a sea-cucumber, shifting from being a mass of tendrils to a milky haze in the water wrapped in mucous.
Also compare and contrast Sea-Stars/Starfish and their strategy for eating oysters, they pry open the shell a crack and then force their own stomach physically out of their mouth into the oyster's shell to consume it from the inside out.
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Engulfing Hydrostatic Gel
Your hypothetical creature can fill a compartment of its body (like a mouth or pocket) or just cover the object with a thick goop which is laced with muscular fibres. With concentration, the creature can manipulate the fibres to pull and push various parts of the goop in meaningful ways.
This would allow the creature to manipulate the inner workings of a mechanism without opening the case any more than necessary to unseal it
More can be achieved if the gel can be made sticky selectively to grip objects inside it.
I'm imagining an evolution of something similar to the dendrites of a sea-cucumber, shifting from being a mass of tendrils to a milky haze in the water wrapped in mucous.
Also compare and contrast Sea-Stars/Starfish and their strategy for eating oysters, they pry open the shell a crack and then force their own stomach physically out of their mouth into the oyster's shell to consume it from the inside out.
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Engulfing Hydrostatic Gel
Your hypothetical creature can fill a compartment of its body (like a mouth or pocket) or just cover the object with a thick goop which is laced with muscular fibres. With concentration, the creature can manipulate the fibres to pull and push various parts of the goop in meaningful ways.
This would allow the creature to manipulate the inner workings of a mechanism without opening the case any more than necessary to unseal it
More can be achieved if the gel can be made sticky selectively to grip objects inside it.
I'm imagining an evolution of something similar to the dendrites of a sea-cucumber, shifting from being a mass of tendrils to a milky haze in the water wrapped in mucous.
Also compare and contrast Sea-Stars/Starfish and their strategy for eating oysters, they pry open the shell a crack and then force their own stomach physically out of their mouth into the oyster's shell to consume it from the inside out.
Engulfing Hydrostatic Gel
Your hypothetical creature can fill a compartment of its body (like a mouth or pocket) or just cover the object with a thick goop which is laced with muscular fibres. With concentration, the creature can manipulate the fibres to pull and push various parts of the goop in meaningful ways.
This would allow the creature to manipulate the inner workings of a mechanism without opening the case any more than necessary to unseal it
More can be achieved if the gel can be made sticky selectively to grip objects inside it.
I'm imagining an evolution of something similar to the dendrites of a sea-cucumber, shifting from being a mass of tendrils to a milky haze in the water wrapped in mucous.
Also compare and contrast Sea-Stars/Starfish and their strategy for eating oysters, they pry open the shell a crack and then force their own stomach physically out of their mouth into the oyster's shell to consume it from the inside out.
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Flingable nets.
Have multiple single-segment arms that each can fling a net at the object to be manipulated. When the object is caught by multiple nets, it will be possible to tilt or pull the object in various directions.
Spider-Man uses flingable nets that are sticky.
Probably simpler to suggest adhesive, or otherwise sticky, tendrils which are attached diametrically and used to rotate, translate, and maybe change configuration if you have enough attachments.
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Flingable nets.
Have multiple single-segment arms that each can fling a net at the object to be manipulated. When the object is caught by multiple nets, it will be possible to tilt or pull the object in various directions.
Spider-Man uses flingable nets that are sticky.
Probably simpler to suggest adhesive, or otherwise sticky, tendrils which are attached diametrically and used to rotate, translate, and maybe change configuration if you have enough attachments.
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Flingable nets.
Have multiple single-segment arms that each can fling a net at the object to be manipulated. When the object is caught by multiple nets, it will be possible to tilt or pull the object in various directions.
Spider-Man uses flingable nets that are sticky.
Flingable nets.
Have multiple single-segment arms that each can fling a net at the object to be manipulated. When the object is caught by multiple nets, it will be possible to tilt or pull the object in various directions.
Spider-Man uses flingable nets that are sticky.
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Probably simpler to suggest adhesive, or otherwise sticky, tendrils which are attached diametrically and used to rotate, translate, and maybe change configuration if you have enough attachments.
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Probably simpler to suggest adhesive, or otherwise sticky, tendrils which are attached diametrically and used to rotate, translate, and maybe change configuration if you have enough attachments.
â can-ned_food
Aug 13 at 2:11
Probably simpler to suggest adhesive, or otherwise sticky, tendrils which are attached diametrically and used to rotate, translate, and maybe change configuration if you have enough attachments.
â can-ned_food
Aug 13 at 2:11
Probably simpler to suggest adhesive, or otherwise sticky, tendrils which are attached diametrically and used to rotate, translate, and maybe change configuration if you have enough attachments.
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In the Niven / Pournelle classic Footfall, they speculate regarding an alien species that is extremely reminiscent of Earth's elephants. This hypothetical species uses its trunk as a "hand".
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See above, those would be the Puppeteers.
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@jwenting Footfall takes place in out universe, the Puppeteers are from another one.
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In the Niven / Pournelle classic Footfall, they speculate regarding an alien species that is extremely reminiscent of Earth's elephants. This hypothetical species uses its trunk as a "hand".
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See above, those would be the Puppeteers.
â jwenting
Aug 13 at 5:50
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@jwenting Footfall takes place in out universe, the Puppeteers are from another one.
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In the Niven / Pournelle classic Footfall, they speculate regarding an alien species that is extremely reminiscent of Earth's elephants. This hypothetical species uses its trunk as a "hand".
In the Niven / Pournelle classic Footfall, they speculate regarding an alien species that is extremely reminiscent of Earth's elephants. This hypothetical species uses its trunk as a "hand".
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See above, those would be the Puppeteers.
â jwenting
Aug 13 at 5:50
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@jwenting Footfall takes place in out universe, the Puppeteers are from another one.
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See above, those would be the Puppeteers.
â jwenting
Aug 13 at 5:50
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@jwenting Footfall takes place in out universe, the Puppeteers are from another one.
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Aug 13 at 7:40
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See above, those would be the Puppeteers.
â jwenting
Aug 13 at 5:50
See above, those would be the Puppeteers.
â jwenting
Aug 13 at 5:50
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@jwenting Footfall takes place in out universe, the Puppeteers are from another one.
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@jwenting Footfall takes place in out universe, the Puppeteers are from another one.
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I don't think tentacles are good with tools tho
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Have some kind of organic fluids that have controlled rheology (electric / magnetic / chemical) that allow them to be made rigid on demand to form a mating surface to any shaped object.
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I'd recommend replacing 'tentacle' with 'muscular hydrostat'. It's the more generic term for what a tentacle is, and also unambiguously encompasses tongues along with other tentacle-like things that people might propose.
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@KalleMP unless you can figure those could form variable configurations, you probably shouldn't post it as an answer.
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