Example of a CW complex that is not a $Delta$-complex?

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Hatcher notes in chapter 2.1 (in the paragraph just preceding the section on simplicial homology (page 104 in my edition)), that all $Delta$-complexes can be realized as CW complexes with some added restrictions on the characteristic maps. Is there a simple example of a CW complex that is not a $Delta$-complex?







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    Take the unique cell complex which has one $0$-cell and one $2$-cell.
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    I guess that makes sense. Can you explain a bit more? It seems like you've just described $S^2$. Is the idea basically that the restriction to each of its boundaries of the characteristic map of the 2-cell can't be a characteristic map for a 1-cell because there are no 1-cells? So would any space that admits a CW complex structure with an $n$-cell but no $(n-1)$-cell be an example?
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    Yes, this is a cell decomposition of $S^2$, and yes any such similar example would work.
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  • Great, thanks so much! If you want to write exactly your first comment as a solution I will accept it.
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  • I'm pretty sure every $Delta$ complex is at least homotopy equivalent to a CW complex
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    Aug 11 at 22:45














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Hatcher notes in chapter 2.1 (in the paragraph just preceding the section on simplicial homology (page 104 in my edition)), that all $Delta$-complexes can be realized as CW complexes with some added restrictions on the characteristic maps. Is there a simple example of a CW complex that is not a $Delta$-complex?







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    Take the unique cell complex which has one $0$-cell and one $2$-cell.
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Aug 11 at 21:18






  • 1




    I guess that makes sense. Can you explain a bit more? It seems like you've just described $S^2$. Is the idea basically that the restriction to each of its boundaries of the characteristic map of the 2-cell can't be a characteristic map for a 1-cell because there are no 1-cells? So would any space that admits a CW complex structure with an $n$-cell but no $(n-1)$-cell be an example?
    – Arbutus
    Aug 11 at 21:35







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    Yes, this is a cell decomposition of $S^2$, and yes any such similar example would work.
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Aug 11 at 21:53










  • Great, thanks so much! If you want to write exactly your first comment as a solution I will accept it.
    – Arbutus
    Aug 11 at 22:31










  • I'm pretty sure every $Delta$ complex is at least homotopy equivalent to a CW complex
    – leibnewtz
    Aug 11 at 22:45












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Hatcher notes in chapter 2.1 (in the paragraph just preceding the section on simplicial homology (page 104 in my edition)), that all $Delta$-complexes can be realized as CW complexes with some added restrictions on the characteristic maps. Is there a simple example of a CW complex that is not a $Delta$-complex?







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Hatcher notes in chapter 2.1 (in the paragraph just preceding the section on simplicial homology (page 104 in my edition)), that all $Delta$-complexes can be realized as CW complexes with some added restrictions on the characteristic maps. Is there a simple example of a CW complex that is not a $Delta$-complex?









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    Take the unique cell complex which has one $0$-cell and one $2$-cell.
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Aug 11 at 21:18






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    I guess that makes sense. Can you explain a bit more? It seems like you've just described $S^2$. Is the idea basically that the restriction to each of its boundaries of the characteristic map of the 2-cell can't be a characteristic map for a 1-cell because there are no 1-cells? So would any space that admits a CW complex structure with an $n$-cell but no $(n-1)$-cell be an example?
    – Arbutus
    Aug 11 at 21:35







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    Yes, this is a cell decomposition of $S^2$, and yes any such similar example would work.
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Aug 11 at 21:53










  • Great, thanks so much! If you want to write exactly your first comment as a solution I will accept it.
    – Arbutus
    Aug 11 at 22:31










  • I'm pretty sure every $Delta$ complex is at least homotopy equivalent to a CW complex
    – leibnewtz
    Aug 11 at 22:45












  • 1




    Take the unique cell complex which has one $0$-cell and one $2$-cell.
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Aug 11 at 21:18






  • 1




    I guess that makes sense. Can you explain a bit more? It seems like you've just described $S^2$. Is the idea basically that the restriction to each of its boundaries of the characteristic map of the 2-cell can't be a characteristic map for a 1-cell because there are no 1-cells? So would any space that admits a CW complex structure with an $n$-cell but no $(n-1)$-cell be an example?
    – Arbutus
    Aug 11 at 21:35







  • 2




    Yes, this is a cell decomposition of $S^2$, and yes any such similar example would work.
    – Cheerful Parsnip
    Aug 11 at 21:53










  • Great, thanks so much! If you want to write exactly your first comment as a solution I will accept it.
    – Arbutus
    Aug 11 at 22:31










  • I'm pretty sure every $Delta$ complex is at least homotopy equivalent to a CW complex
    – leibnewtz
    Aug 11 at 22:45







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Take the unique cell complex which has one $0$-cell and one $2$-cell.
– Cheerful Parsnip
Aug 11 at 21:18




Take the unique cell complex which has one $0$-cell and one $2$-cell.
– Cheerful Parsnip
Aug 11 at 21:18




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I guess that makes sense. Can you explain a bit more? It seems like you've just described $S^2$. Is the idea basically that the restriction to each of its boundaries of the characteristic map of the 2-cell can't be a characteristic map for a 1-cell because there are no 1-cells? So would any space that admits a CW complex structure with an $n$-cell but no $(n-1)$-cell be an example?
– Arbutus
Aug 11 at 21:35





I guess that makes sense. Can you explain a bit more? It seems like you've just described $S^2$. Is the idea basically that the restriction to each of its boundaries of the characteristic map of the 2-cell can't be a characteristic map for a 1-cell because there are no 1-cells? So would any space that admits a CW complex structure with an $n$-cell but no $(n-1)$-cell be an example?
– Arbutus
Aug 11 at 21:35





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Yes, this is a cell decomposition of $S^2$, and yes any such similar example would work.
– Cheerful Parsnip
Aug 11 at 21:53




Yes, this is a cell decomposition of $S^2$, and yes any such similar example would work.
– Cheerful Parsnip
Aug 11 at 21:53












Great, thanks so much! If you want to write exactly your first comment as a solution I will accept it.
– Arbutus
Aug 11 at 22:31




Great, thanks so much! If you want to write exactly your first comment as a solution I will accept it.
– Arbutus
Aug 11 at 22:31












I'm pretty sure every $Delta$ complex is at least homotopy equivalent to a CW complex
– leibnewtz
Aug 11 at 22:45




I'm pretty sure every $Delta$ complex is at least homotopy equivalent to a CW complex
– leibnewtz
Aug 11 at 22:45










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