The solutions of the inequality $[x^2]+5[x]+6>2$?
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I tried to solve this inequality by taking the square outside the floor function $[y]$ (greatest integer less than $y$)but it was wrong since if $x=2.5$ then $[x]= 2$ and $x^2=4$ while $[x^2]=[6.25]=6$.
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I tried to solve this inequality by taking the square outside the floor function $[y]$ (greatest integer less than $y$)but it was wrong since if $x=2.5$ then $[x]= 2$ and $x^2=4$ while $[x^2]=[6.25]=6$.
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write $n = [x]$ and $[x^2] = n^2 + c$. Solve the problem as if its a quadratic in $n$, with answer depending on $c$. This gives you the range of values that $x$ can take
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 7:44
I think there are negative values for $x$.
â mrs
Sep 7 at 7:54
What operation is your $[cdot]$?
â mvw
Sep 7 at 8:01
Oviously the roots are negative but what are they?
â priyanka kumari
Sep 7 at 8:19
Did you try Calvin's method? When you take $[x]$ as $n$ and $[x^2]$ as $n^2$ and solve it as quadratic equation you'll get $n$ varying from $(-4-c)$ to $(-9-c)$. So, for the equation to be true your $n$ needs to be at least greater than $-4$.
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Sep 7 at 9:36
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I tried to solve this inequality by taking the square outside the floor function $[y]$ (greatest integer less than $y$)but it was wrong since if $x=2.5$ then $[x]= 2$ and $x^2=4$ while $[x^2]=[6.25]=6$.
calculus functions inequality quadratics
I tried to solve this inequality by taking the square outside the floor function $[y]$ (greatest integer less than $y$)but it was wrong since if $x=2.5$ then $[x]= 2$ and $x^2=4$ while $[x^2]=[6.25]=6$.
calculus functions inequality quadratics
calculus functions inequality quadratics
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write $n = [x]$ and $[x^2] = n^2 + c$. Solve the problem as if its a quadratic in $n$, with answer depending on $c$. This gives you the range of values that $x$ can take
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 7:44
I think there are negative values for $x$.
â mrs
Sep 7 at 7:54
What operation is your $[cdot]$?
â mvw
Sep 7 at 8:01
Oviously the roots are negative but what are they?
â priyanka kumari
Sep 7 at 8:19
Did you try Calvin's method? When you take $[x]$ as $n$ and $[x^2]$ as $n^2$ and solve it as quadratic equation you'll get $n$ varying from $(-4-c)$ to $(-9-c)$. So, for the equation to be true your $n$ needs to be at least greater than $-4$.
â Iti Shree
Sep 7 at 9:36
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write $n = [x]$ and $[x^2] = n^2 + c$. Solve the problem as if its a quadratic in $n$, with answer depending on $c$. This gives you the range of values that $x$ can take
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 7:44
I think there are negative values for $x$.
â mrs
Sep 7 at 7:54
What operation is your $[cdot]$?
â mvw
Sep 7 at 8:01
Oviously the roots are negative but what are they?
â priyanka kumari
Sep 7 at 8:19
Did you try Calvin's method? When you take $[x]$ as $n$ and $[x^2]$ as $n^2$ and solve it as quadratic equation you'll get $n$ varying from $(-4-c)$ to $(-9-c)$. So, for the equation to be true your $n$ needs to be at least greater than $-4$.
â Iti Shree
Sep 7 at 9:36
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write $n = [x]$ and $[x^2] = n^2 + c$. Solve the problem as if its a quadratic in $n$, with answer depending on $c$. This gives you the range of values that $x$ can take
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 7:44
write $n = [x]$ and $[x^2] = n^2 + c$. Solve the problem as if its a quadratic in $n$, with answer depending on $c$. This gives you the range of values that $x$ can take
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 7:44
I think there are negative values for $x$.
â mrs
Sep 7 at 7:54
I think there are negative values for $x$.
â mrs
Sep 7 at 7:54
What operation is your $[cdot]$?
â mvw
Sep 7 at 8:01
What operation is your $[cdot]$?
â mvw
Sep 7 at 8:01
Oviously the roots are negative but what are they?
â priyanka kumari
Sep 7 at 8:19
Oviously the roots are negative but what are they?
â priyanka kumari
Sep 7 at 8:19
Did you try Calvin's method? When you take $[x]$ as $n$ and $[x^2]$ as $n^2$ and solve it as quadratic equation you'll get $n$ varying from $(-4-c)$ to $(-9-c)$. So, for the equation to be true your $n$ needs to be at least greater than $-4$.
â Iti Shree
Sep 7 at 9:36
Did you try Calvin's method? When you take $[x]$ as $n$ and $[x^2]$ as $n^2$ and solve it as quadratic equation you'll get $n$ varying from $(-4-c)$ to $(-9-c)$. So, for the equation to be true your $n$ needs to be at least greater than $-4$.
â Iti Shree
Sep 7 at 9:36
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We can you Calvin's suggested method here (see his comment) by solving the equation as we would with the quadratic equation.
You solve this equation as following, let us take $[x]$ another variable say $n$, and $[x^2]$ as $n^2 + c$. Now your equation becomes :
$$n^2 + c + 5n + 6 = 2$$
$$n (n + 5) = -4 - c$$
Now, we know from above equation that,
n varies from , $$ n = -4 -c$$
to $$ n = -9 - c$$
here, for our required equation to be true, the equation should be strictly greater than $2$. Hence, the least possible value for $x$ in greatest integer function should be greater than $-4$.
I hope this clears your doubt.
Please tell me about Calvin method
â priyanka kumari
Sep 7 at 11:22
I used the same thing he mentioned in the comment.
â Iti Shree
Sep 7 at 11:49
If you make a graph of the function there should be 3 regions. One is the one you found, one more is for X sufficiently large and negative, and one more comes from a careful study of the term $c$
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:15
You can try to write $[x]+d = x $ so that $n^2 +2dn+d^2=x^2 $ ie $c=[2dn+d^2], where d is any number in $[0,1)$. Some case analysis will be needed...
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:37
Actually it doesn't seem that any of the boundaries of the regions is -4...sorry
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:40
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Define $f(x)=operatornamefloorleft(x^2right)+5operatornamefloorleft(xright)+6 = [x^2] + 5[x] + 6$.
I'll present some graphs that indicate the solution set is more complicated than $xge -4$.
(Desmos link)
We see the solution is made up of 3 different regions. As you can see Desmos is not certain about the accuracy of its plot so I found a second opinion that indeed indicates that there is a small hole in the solution regions a small bit to the left of $-5$ (W|A link),
I don't understand where $-4$ came from. Firstly, it does not come from the other potential interpretation of $[cdot]$ as the ceiling function, as these calculations in W|A show. Secondly, under the interpretation $[x] = operatornamefloor(x)$, we have $f(-2)=0$.
Clearly, even without a graph, there are at least two distinct regions that satisfy the inequality, since if $x>0$, then
$$ fleft(xright)=[x^2] + 5[x]+6 > 6 > 2$$
and if $x < -6 $ then
$$ [x^2] + 5[x]+6 âÂÂ¥ (x^2-1) + 5(x-1) + 6 = underbracex(x+5)_>6 > 2 $$
so the solution region must contain
$$ x < -6 cup x > 0$$
as a subset. The fact that there is a third region is not so obvious and requires more careful study of the difference between $[x^2]$ and $x^2$.
I think you are copied the wrong question.
â priyanka kumari
Sep 8 at 10:19
@user584880 please explain?
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 10:20
It was$$[x^2]+5[x]+6>2$$
â priyanka kumari
Sep 8 at 10:22
@user584880 what did I use instead? Looks the same to me?
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 10:35
@user584880 I made a large number of claims. If you could point out one that isn't right, I would appreciate it greatly. In addition, I have provided a number of graphs, and you can change the inputs. If you could provide me with a graph / link that has the 'correct' function, that would be great.
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 14:55
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I think the answer should be: $xle-sqrt27qquad $ or $qquad -5lexle-sqrt22qquad $
or
$qquad 0lexqquad $
Here is a sketch:
For $$-4lexle-1$$ it is $$x^2+5x+4le0$$ or $$x^2+5xle-4$$, but also
$$ [x^2]+5[x]lex^2+5x$$
so there is no solution in $[-4, -1]$.
For $$-5lexlt-4$$ it is $qquad [x]=-5qquad $ and so $qquad 5[x]=-25qquad $ therefor $qquad [x^2]-25gt-4qquad $ $iff$ $qquad [x^2]geqslant22qquad $ $iff$ $qquad x^2geqslant22qquad $ $implies$ $qquad xle-sqrt22qquad $
How did you obtain this answer?
â Atrey Desai
Sep 8 at 18:49
For $x$ non negative or smaller than $-6$ is rather obvious. Then I checked the values in the interval $[-6, 0]$
â dmtri
Sep 8 at 18:52
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this matches my graph :)
â Calvin Khor
Sep 9 at 3:36
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3 Answers
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active
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active
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We can you Calvin's suggested method here (see his comment) by solving the equation as we would with the quadratic equation.
You solve this equation as following, let us take $[x]$ another variable say $n$, and $[x^2]$ as $n^2 + c$. Now your equation becomes :
$$n^2 + c + 5n + 6 = 2$$
$$n (n + 5) = -4 - c$$
Now, we know from above equation that,
n varies from , $$ n = -4 -c$$
to $$ n = -9 - c$$
here, for our required equation to be true, the equation should be strictly greater than $2$. Hence, the least possible value for $x$ in greatest integer function should be greater than $-4$.
I hope this clears your doubt.
Please tell me about Calvin method
â priyanka kumari
Sep 7 at 11:22
I used the same thing he mentioned in the comment.
â Iti Shree
Sep 7 at 11:49
If you make a graph of the function there should be 3 regions. One is the one you found, one more is for X sufficiently large and negative, and one more comes from a careful study of the term $c$
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:15
You can try to write $[x]+d = x $ so that $n^2 +2dn+d^2=x^2 $ ie $c=[2dn+d^2], where d is any number in $[0,1)$. Some case analysis will be needed...
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:37
Actually it doesn't seem that any of the boundaries of the regions is -4...sorry
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:40
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
We can you Calvin's suggested method here (see his comment) by solving the equation as we would with the quadratic equation.
You solve this equation as following, let us take $[x]$ another variable say $n$, and $[x^2]$ as $n^2 + c$. Now your equation becomes :
$$n^2 + c + 5n + 6 = 2$$
$$n (n + 5) = -4 - c$$
Now, we know from above equation that,
n varies from , $$ n = -4 -c$$
to $$ n = -9 - c$$
here, for our required equation to be true, the equation should be strictly greater than $2$. Hence, the least possible value for $x$ in greatest integer function should be greater than $-4$.
I hope this clears your doubt.
Please tell me about Calvin method
â priyanka kumari
Sep 7 at 11:22
I used the same thing he mentioned in the comment.
â Iti Shree
Sep 7 at 11:49
If you make a graph of the function there should be 3 regions. One is the one you found, one more is for X sufficiently large and negative, and one more comes from a careful study of the term $c$
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:15
You can try to write $[x]+d = x $ so that $n^2 +2dn+d^2=x^2 $ ie $c=[2dn+d^2], where d is any number in $[0,1)$. Some case analysis will be needed...
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:37
Actually it doesn't seem that any of the boundaries of the regions is -4...sorry
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:40
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
up vote
0
down vote
accepted
We can you Calvin's suggested method here (see his comment) by solving the equation as we would with the quadratic equation.
You solve this equation as following, let us take $[x]$ another variable say $n$, and $[x^2]$ as $n^2 + c$. Now your equation becomes :
$$n^2 + c + 5n + 6 = 2$$
$$n (n + 5) = -4 - c$$
Now, we know from above equation that,
n varies from , $$ n = -4 -c$$
to $$ n = -9 - c$$
here, for our required equation to be true, the equation should be strictly greater than $2$. Hence, the least possible value for $x$ in greatest integer function should be greater than $-4$.
I hope this clears your doubt.
We can you Calvin's suggested method here (see his comment) by solving the equation as we would with the quadratic equation.
You solve this equation as following, let us take $[x]$ another variable say $n$, and $[x^2]$ as $n^2 + c$. Now your equation becomes :
$$n^2 + c + 5n + 6 = 2$$
$$n (n + 5) = -4 - c$$
Now, we know from above equation that,
n varies from , $$ n = -4 -c$$
to $$ n = -9 - c$$
here, for our required equation to be true, the equation should be strictly greater than $2$. Hence, the least possible value for $x$ in greatest integer function should be greater than $-4$.
I hope this clears your doubt.
answered Sep 7 at 11:20
Iti Shree
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Please tell me about Calvin method
â priyanka kumari
Sep 7 at 11:22
I used the same thing he mentioned in the comment.
â Iti Shree
Sep 7 at 11:49
If you make a graph of the function there should be 3 regions. One is the one you found, one more is for X sufficiently large and negative, and one more comes from a careful study of the term $c$
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:15
You can try to write $[x]+d = x $ so that $n^2 +2dn+d^2=x^2 $ ie $c=[2dn+d^2], where d is any number in $[0,1)$. Some case analysis will be needed...
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:37
Actually it doesn't seem that any of the boundaries of the regions is -4...sorry
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:40
add a comment |Â
Please tell me about Calvin method
â priyanka kumari
Sep 7 at 11:22
I used the same thing he mentioned in the comment.
â Iti Shree
Sep 7 at 11:49
If you make a graph of the function there should be 3 regions. One is the one you found, one more is for X sufficiently large and negative, and one more comes from a careful study of the term $c$
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:15
You can try to write $[x]+d = x $ so that $n^2 +2dn+d^2=x^2 $ ie $c=[2dn+d^2], where d is any number in $[0,1)$. Some case analysis will be needed...
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:37
Actually it doesn't seem that any of the boundaries of the regions is -4...sorry
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:40
Please tell me about Calvin method
â priyanka kumari
Sep 7 at 11:22
Please tell me about Calvin method
â priyanka kumari
Sep 7 at 11:22
I used the same thing he mentioned in the comment.
â Iti Shree
Sep 7 at 11:49
I used the same thing he mentioned in the comment.
â Iti Shree
Sep 7 at 11:49
If you make a graph of the function there should be 3 regions. One is the one you found, one more is for X sufficiently large and negative, and one more comes from a careful study of the term $c$
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:15
If you make a graph of the function there should be 3 regions. One is the one you found, one more is for X sufficiently large and negative, and one more comes from a careful study of the term $c$
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:15
You can try to write $[x]+d = x $ so that $n^2 +2dn+d^2=x^2 $ ie $c=[2dn+d^2], where d is any number in $[0,1)$. Some case analysis will be needed...
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:37
You can try to write $[x]+d = x $ so that $n^2 +2dn+d^2=x^2 $ ie $c=[2dn+d^2], where d is any number in $[0,1)$. Some case analysis will be needed...
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:37
Actually it doesn't seem that any of the boundaries of the regions is -4...sorry
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:40
Actually it doesn't seem that any of the boundaries of the regions is -4...sorry
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 13:40
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Define $f(x)=operatornamefloorleft(x^2right)+5operatornamefloorleft(xright)+6 = [x^2] + 5[x] + 6$.
I'll present some graphs that indicate the solution set is more complicated than $xge -4$.
(Desmos link)
We see the solution is made up of 3 different regions. As you can see Desmos is not certain about the accuracy of its plot so I found a second opinion that indeed indicates that there is a small hole in the solution regions a small bit to the left of $-5$ (W|A link),
I don't understand where $-4$ came from. Firstly, it does not come from the other potential interpretation of $[cdot]$ as the ceiling function, as these calculations in W|A show. Secondly, under the interpretation $[x] = operatornamefloor(x)$, we have $f(-2)=0$.
Clearly, even without a graph, there are at least two distinct regions that satisfy the inequality, since if $x>0$, then
$$ fleft(xright)=[x^2] + 5[x]+6 > 6 > 2$$
and if $x < -6 $ then
$$ [x^2] + 5[x]+6 âÂÂ¥ (x^2-1) + 5(x-1) + 6 = underbracex(x+5)_>6 > 2 $$
so the solution region must contain
$$ x < -6 cup x > 0$$
as a subset. The fact that there is a third region is not so obvious and requires more careful study of the difference between $[x^2]$ and $x^2$.
I think you are copied the wrong question.
â priyanka kumari
Sep 8 at 10:19
@user584880 please explain?
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 10:20
It was$$[x^2]+5[x]+6>2$$
â priyanka kumari
Sep 8 at 10:22
@user584880 what did I use instead? Looks the same to me?
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 10:35
@user584880 I made a large number of claims. If you could point out one that isn't right, I would appreciate it greatly. In addition, I have provided a number of graphs, and you can change the inputs. If you could provide me with a graph / link that has the 'correct' function, that would be great.
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 14:55
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Define $f(x)=operatornamefloorleft(x^2right)+5operatornamefloorleft(xright)+6 = [x^2] + 5[x] + 6$.
I'll present some graphs that indicate the solution set is more complicated than $xge -4$.
(Desmos link)
We see the solution is made up of 3 different regions. As you can see Desmos is not certain about the accuracy of its plot so I found a second opinion that indeed indicates that there is a small hole in the solution regions a small bit to the left of $-5$ (W|A link),
I don't understand where $-4$ came from. Firstly, it does not come from the other potential interpretation of $[cdot]$ as the ceiling function, as these calculations in W|A show. Secondly, under the interpretation $[x] = operatornamefloor(x)$, we have $f(-2)=0$.
Clearly, even without a graph, there are at least two distinct regions that satisfy the inequality, since if $x>0$, then
$$ fleft(xright)=[x^2] + 5[x]+6 > 6 > 2$$
and if $x < -6 $ then
$$ [x^2] + 5[x]+6 âÂÂ¥ (x^2-1) + 5(x-1) + 6 = underbracex(x+5)_>6 > 2 $$
so the solution region must contain
$$ x < -6 cup x > 0$$
as a subset. The fact that there is a third region is not so obvious and requires more careful study of the difference between $[x^2]$ and $x^2$.
I think you are copied the wrong question.
â priyanka kumari
Sep 8 at 10:19
@user584880 please explain?
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 10:20
It was$$[x^2]+5[x]+6>2$$
â priyanka kumari
Sep 8 at 10:22
@user584880 what did I use instead? Looks the same to me?
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 10:35
@user584880 I made a large number of claims. If you could point out one that isn't right, I would appreciate it greatly. In addition, I have provided a number of graphs, and you can change the inputs. If you could provide me with a graph / link that has the 'correct' function, that would be great.
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 14:55
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
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up vote
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Define $f(x)=operatornamefloorleft(x^2right)+5operatornamefloorleft(xright)+6 = [x^2] + 5[x] + 6$.
I'll present some graphs that indicate the solution set is more complicated than $xge -4$.
(Desmos link)
We see the solution is made up of 3 different regions. As you can see Desmos is not certain about the accuracy of its plot so I found a second opinion that indeed indicates that there is a small hole in the solution regions a small bit to the left of $-5$ (W|A link),
I don't understand where $-4$ came from. Firstly, it does not come from the other potential interpretation of $[cdot]$ as the ceiling function, as these calculations in W|A show. Secondly, under the interpretation $[x] = operatornamefloor(x)$, we have $f(-2)=0$.
Clearly, even without a graph, there are at least two distinct regions that satisfy the inequality, since if $x>0$, then
$$ fleft(xright)=[x^2] + 5[x]+6 > 6 > 2$$
and if $x < -6 $ then
$$ [x^2] + 5[x]+6 âÂÂ¥ (x^2-1) + 5(x-1) + 6 = underbracex(x+5)_>6 > 2 $$
so the solution region must contain
$$ x < -6 cup x > 0$$
as a subset. The fact that there is a third region is not so obvious and requires more careful study of the difference between $[x^2]$ and $x^2$.
Define $f(x)=operatornamefloorleft(x^2right)+5operatornamefloorleft(xright)+6 = [x^2] + 5[x] + 6$.
I'll present some graphs that indicate the solution set is more complicated than $xge -4$.
(Desmos link)
We see the solution is made up of 3 different regions. As you can see Desmos is not certain about the accuracy of its plot so I found a second opinion that indeed indicates that there is a small hole in the solution regions a small bit to the left of $-5$ (W|A link),
I don't understand where $-4$ came from. Firstly, it does not come from the other potential interpretation of $[cdot]$ as the ceiling function, as these calculations in W|A show. Secondly, under the interpretation $[x] = operatornamefloor(x)$, we have $f(-2)=0$.
Clearly, even without a graph, there are at least two distinct regions that satisfy the inequality, since if $x>0$, then
$$ fleft(xright)=[x^2] + 5[x]+6 > 6 > 2$$
and if $x < -6 $ then
$$ [x^2] + 5[x]+6 âÂÂ¥ (x^2-1) + 5(x-1) + 6 = underbracex(x+5)_>6 > 2 $$
so the solution region must contain
$$ x < -6 cup x > 0$$
as a subset. The fact that there is a third region is not so obvious and requires more careful study of the difference between $[x^2]$ and $x^2$.
answered Sep 8 at 9:53
Calvin Khor
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I think you are copied the wrong question.
â priyanka kumari
Sep 8 at 10:19
@user584880 please explain?
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 10:20
It was$$[x^2]+5[x]+6>2$$
â priyanka kumari
Sep 8 at 10:22
@user584880 what did I use instead? Looks the same to me?
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 10:35
@user584880 I made a large number of claims. If you could point out one that isn't right, I would appreciate it greatly. In addition, I have provided a number of graphs, and you can change the inputs. If you could provide me with a graph / link that has the 'correct' function, that would be great.
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 14:55
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I think you are copied the wrong question.
â priyanka kumari
Sep 8 at 10:19
@user584880 please explain?
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 10:20
It was$$[x^2]+5[x]+6>2$$
â priyanka kumari
Sep 8 at 10:22
@user584880 what did I use instead? Looks the same to me?
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 10:35
@user584880 I made a large number of claims. If you could point out one that isn't right, I would appreciate it greatly. In addition, I have provided a number of graphs, and you can change the inputs. If you could provide me with a graph / link that has the 'correct' function, that would be great.
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 14:55
I think you are copied the wrong question.
â priyanka kumari
Sep 8 at 10:19
I think you are copied the wrong question.
â priyanka kumari
Sep 8 at 10:19
@user584880 please explain?
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 10:20
@user584880 please explain?
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 10:20
It was$$[x^2]+5[x]+6>2$$
â priyanka kumari
Sep 8 at 10:22
It was$$[x^2]+5[x]+6>2$$
â priyanka kumari
Sep 8 at 10:22
@user584880 what did I use instead? Looks the same to me?
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 10:35
@user584880 what did I use instead? Looks the same to me?
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 10:35
@user584880 I made a large number of claims. If you could point out one that isn't right, I would appreciate it greatly. In addition, I have provided a number of graphs, and you can change the inputs. If you could provide me with a graph / link that has the 'correct' function, that would be great.
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 14:55
@user584880 I made a large number of claims. If you could point out one that isn't right, I would appreciate it greatly. In addition, I have provided a number of graphs, and you can change the inputs. If you could provide me with a graph / link that has the 'correct' function, that would be great.
â Calvin Khor
Sep 8 at 14:55
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I think the answer should be: $xle-sqrt27qquad $ or $qquad -5lexle-sqrt22qquad $
or
$qquad 0lexqquad $
Here is a sketch:
For $$-4lexle-1$$ it is $$x^2+5x+4le0$$ or $$x^2+5xle-4$$, but also
$$ [x^2]+5[x]lex^2+5x$$
so there is no solution in $[-4, -1]$.
For $$-5lexlt-4$$ it is $qquad [x]=-5qquad $ and so $qquad 5[x]=-25qquad $ therefor $qquad [x^2]-25gt-4qquad $ $iff$ $qquad [x^2]geqslant22qquad $ $iff$ $qquad x^2geqslant22qquad $ $implies$ $qquad xle-sqrt22qquad $
How did you obtain this answer?
â Atrey Desai
Sep 8 at 18:49
For $x$ non negative or smaller than $-6$ is rather obvious. Then I checked the values in the interval $[-6, 0]$
â dmtri
Sep 8 at 18:52
1
this matches my graph :)
â Calvin Khor
Sep 9 at 3:36
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I think the answer should be: $xle-sqrt27qquad $ or $qquad -5lexle-sqrt22qquad $
or
$qquad 0lexqquad $
Here is a sketch:
For $$-4lexle-1$$ it is $$x^2+5x+4le0$$ or $$x^2+5xle-4$$, but also
$$ [x^2]+5[x]lex^2+5x$$
so there is no solution in $[-4, -1]$.
For $$-5lexlt-4$$ it is $qquad [x]=-5qquad $ and so $qquad 5[x]=-25qquad $ therefor $qquad [x^2]-25gt-4qquad $ $iff$ $qquad [x^2]geqslant22qquad $ $iff$ $qquad x^2geqslant22qquad $ $implies$ $qquad xle-sqrt22qquad $
How did you obtain this answer?
â Atrey Desai
Sep 8 at 18:49
For $x$ non negative or smaller than $-6$ is rather obvious. Then I checked the values in the interval $[-6, 0]$
â dmtri
Sep 8 at 18:52
1
this matches my graph :)
â Calvin Khor
Sep 9 at 3:36
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up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
I think the answer should be: $xle-sqrt27qquad $ or $qquad -5lexle-sqrt22qquad $
or
$qquad 0lexqquad $
Here is a sketch:
For $$-4lexle-1$$ it is $$x^2+5x+4le0$$ or $$x^2+5xle-4$$, but also
$$ [x^2]+5[x]lex^2+5x$$
so there is no solution in $[-4, -1]$.
For $$-5lexlt-4$$ it is $qquad [x]=-5qquad $ and so $qquad 5[x]=-25qquad $ therefor $qquad [x^2]-25gt-4qquad $ $iff$ $qquad [x^2]geqslant22qquad $ $iff$ $qquad x^2geqslant22qquad $ $implies$ $qquad xle-sqrt22qquad $
I think the answer should be: $xle-sqrt27qquad $ or $qquad -5lexle-sqrt22qquad $
or
$qquad 0lexqquad $
Here is a sketch:
For $$-4lexle-1$$ it is $$x^2+5x+4le0$$ or $$x^2+5xle-4$$, but also
$$ [x^2]+5[x]lex^2+5x$$
so there is no solution in $[-4, -1]$.
For $$-5lexlt-4$$ it is $qquad [x]=-5qquad $ and so $qquad 5[x]=-25qquad $ therefor $qquad [x^2]-25gt-4qquad $ $iff$ $qquad [x^2]geqslant22qquad $ $iff$ $qquad x^2geqslant22qquad $ $implies$ $qquad xle-sqrt22qquad $
edited Sep 9 at 4:52
answered Sep 8 at 18:44
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How did you obtain this answer?
â Atrey Desai
Sep 8 at 18:49
For $x$ non negative or smaller than $-6$ is rather obvious. Then I checked the values in the interval $[-6, 0]$
â dmtri
Sep 8 at 18:52
1
this matches my graph :)
â Calvin Khor
Sep 9 at 3:36
add a comment |Â
How did you obtain this answer?
â Atrey Desai
Sep 8 at 18:49
For $x$ non negative or smaller than $-6$ is rather obvious. Then I checked the values in the interval $[-6, 0]$
â dmtri
Sep 8 at 18:52
1
this matches my graph :)
â Calvin Khor
Sep 9 at 3:36
How did you obtain this answer?
â Atrey Desai
Sep 8 at 18:49
How did you obtain this answer?
â Atrey Desai
Sep 8 at 18:49
For $x$ non negative or smaller than $-6$ is rather obvious. Then I checked the values in the interval $[-6, 0]$
â dmtri
Sep 8 at 18:52
For $x$ non negative or smaller than $-6$ is rather obvious. Then I checked the values in the interval $[-6, 0]$
â dmtri
Sep 8 at 18:52
1
1
this matches my graph :)
â Calvin Khor
Sep 9 at 3:36
this matches my graph :)
â Calvin Khor
Sep 9 at 3:36
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write $n = [x]$ and $[x^2] = n^2 + c$. Solve the problem as if its a quadratic in $n$, with answer depending on $c$. This gives you the range of values that $x$ can take
â Calvin Khor
Sep 7 at 7:44
I think there are negative values for $x$.
â mrs
Sep 7 at 7:54
What operation is your $[cdot]$?
â mvw
Sep 7 at 8:01
Oviously the roots are negative but what are they?
â priyanka kumari
Sep 7 at 8:19
Did you try Calvin's method? When you take $[x]$ as $n$ and $[x^2]$ as $n^2$ and solve it as quadratic equation you'll get $n$ varying from $(-4-c)$ to $(-9-c)$. So, for the equation to be true your $n$ needs to be at least greater than $-4$.
â Iti Shree
Sep 7 at 9:36