Limit as $xto 2$ of $fraccos(frac pi x)x-2 $

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I am a kid trying to teach myself Calculus in order to prepare for next year.



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$$lim_xto 2fraccos(frac pi x)x-2 $$



There is a hint that says to substitute t for $(frac pi2 - frac pi x)$ and WolframAlpha evaluates this expression as $frac pi4$. However, I got the answer of $1$. Can someone clarify the steps to solving this problem.










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I have the expression



$$lim_xto 2fraccos(frac pi x)x-2 $$



There is a hint that says to substitute t for $(frac pi2 - frac pi x)$ and WolframAlpha evaluates this expression as $frac pi4$. However, I got the answer of $1$. Can someone clarify the steps to solving this problem.










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$$lim_xto 2fraccos(frac pi x)x-2 $$



There is a hint that says to substitute t for $(frac pi2 - frac pi x)$ and WolframAlpha evaluates this expression as $frac pi4$. However, I got the answer of $1$. Can someone clarify the steps to solving this problem.










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I have the expression



$$lim_xto 2fraccos(frac pi x)x-2 $$



There is a hint that says to substitute t for $(frac pi2 - frac pi x)$ and WolframAlpha evaluates this expression as $frac pi4$. However, I got the answer of $1$. Can someone clarify the steps to solving this problem.







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$$cosdfracpi x=sinleft(dfracpi2-dfracpi xright)=sindfracpi(x-2)2x$$



Now set $dfracpi(x-2)2x=y$ and use $lim_hto adfracsin(h-a)h-a=1$






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    Here is my solution using only $lim_x to 0 fracsin(x)x = 1$, using the methods the questions asks for (the $t$ substitution)
    $$lim_x to 2 fraccos(pi/x)x-2$$
    $$ = lim_x to 2 fracsin(fracpi2 - fracpix)x-2$$
    substitute $t= fracpi2 - fracpix$, $;;x = frac2 pipi-2 t$
    $$ = lim_t to 0 fracsin(t)frac2 pipi-2 t-2$$
    $$ = lim_t to 0 fracsin(t)frac2 pi - 2(pi-2 t)pi-2 t$$
    $$ = lim_t to 0 frac(pi-2 t)sin(t)2 pi - 2(pi-2 t)$$
    Substitute $r = pi-2 t$, $;;t = fracpi-r2$
    $$ = lim_r to pi fracrsin(fracpi-r2)2(pi - r)$$
    $$ = frac14lim_r to pi fracrsin(fracpi-r2)fracpi-r2$$
    Substitute $k = fracpi-r2$, $;;r= pi-2k$
    $$ = frac14lim_k to 0 frac(pi-2k)sin(k)k$$
    $$ = frac14bigg[lim_k to 0 (pi-2k)*lim_k to 0fracsin(k)kbigg]$$
    $$=fracpi4$$
    I unfortunately only got this after an answer was accepted, as messing around with a limit this much takes a while and involved some trial and error before I could figure out what to do... there might be a way to condense this proof, but I always jump right into these things by making substitution after substitution until I get to a form that I know.






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      $$lim_xto2fraccos(π/x)x-2$$
      Which leads us to an Indeterminate form i.e.,(0/0) form ,
      so apply L-Hospital rule ,

      $$lim_xto2[-sin(π/x)-π/x^2]
      =lim_xto2 fracπx^2
      =fracpi4$$






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        Let $x=2+y$ with $yne 0$.We have $x-2=y$ and $ pi/x=pi/(2+y)=pi/2-pi y/(4+2 y) . $ So $cos pi/x=sin pi y/(4+2 y)=(1-f(y)(pi y/(4+2 y)$ where $lim_yto 0 f(y)=0 . $ Hence $(cos pi/x)/(2-x)= (1-f(y)(pi/(4+2 y)).$






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          Let $dfrac1x=y$ then
          beginalign
          limlimits_x to 2 fraccosleft(fracpixright)x-2
          &= limlimits_y to frac12 fracsinleft(fracpi2-pi yright)dfrac1y-2\
          &= limlimits_y to frac12 fracsinpileft(frac12- yright)pileft(frac12- yright)dfracleft(frac12- yright)1-2ypi y\
          &= colorbluedfracpi4
          endalign






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            HINT:



            $$cosdfracpi x=sinleft(dfracpi2-dfracpi xright)=sindfracpi(x-2)2x$$



            Now set $dfracpi(x-2)2x=y$ and use $lim_hto adfracsin(h-a)h-a=1$






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              HINT:



              $$cosdfracpi x=sinleft(dfracpi2-dfracpi xright)=sindfracpi(x-2)2x$$



              Now set $dfracpi(x-2)2x=y$ and use $lim_hto adfracsin(h-a)h-a=1$






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                HINT:



                $$cosdfracpi x=sinleft(dfracpi2-dfracpi xright)=sindfracpi(x-2)2x$$



                Now set $dfracpi(x-2)2x=y$ and use $lim_hto adfracsin(h-a)h-a=1$






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                HINT:



                $$cosdfracpi x=sinleft(dfracpi2-dfracpi xright)=sindfracpi(x-2)2x$$



                Now set $dfracpi(x-2)2x=y$ and use $lim_hto adfracsin(h-a)h-a=1$







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                    Here is my solution using only $lim_x to 0 fracsin(x)x = 1$, using the methods the questions asks for (the $t$ substitution)
                    $$lim_x to 2 fraccos(pi/x)x-2$$
                    $$ = lim_x to 2 fracsin(fracpi2 - fracpix)x-2$$
                    substitute $t= fracpi2 - fracpix$, $;;x = frac2 pipi-2 t$
                    $$ = lim_t to 0 fracsin(t)frac2 pipi-2 t-2$$
                    $$ = lim_t to 0 fracsin(t)frac2 pi - 2(pi-2 t)pi-2 t$$
                    $$ = lim_t to 0 frac(pi-2 t)sin(t)2 pi - 2(pi-2 t)$$
                    Substitute $r = pi-2 t$, $;;t = fracpi-r2$
                    $$ = lim_r to pi fracrsin(fracpi-r2)2(pi - r)$$
                    $$ = frac14lim_r to pi fracrsin(fracpi-r2)fracpi-r2$$
                    Substitute $k = fracpi-r2$, $;;r= pi-2k$
                    $$ = frac14lim_k to 0 frac(pi-2k)sin(k)k$$
                    $$ = frac14bigg[lim_k to 0 (pi-2k)*lim_k to 0fracsin(k)kbigg]$$
                    $$=fracpi4$$
                    I unfortunately only got this after an answer was accepted, as messing around with a limit this much takes a while and involved some trial and error before I could figure out what to do... there might be a way to condense this proof, but I always jump right into these things by making substitution after substitution until I get to a form that I know.






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                      Here is my solution using only $lim_x to 0 fracsin(x)x = 1$, using the methods the questions asks for (the $t$ substitution)
                      $$lim_x to 2 fraccos(pi/x)x-2$$
                      $$ = lim_x to 2 fracsin(fracpi2 - fracpix)x-2$$
                      substitute $t= fracpi2 - fracpix$, $;;x = frac2 pipi-2 t$
                      $$ = lim_t to 0 fracsin(t)frac2 pipi-2 t-2$$
                      $$ = lim_t to 0 fracsin(t)frac2 pi - 2(pi-2 t)pi-2 t$$
                      $$ = lim_t to 0 frac(pi-2 t)sin(t)2 pi - 2(pi-2 t)$$
                      Substitute $r = pi-2 t$, $;;t = fracpi-r2$
                      $$ = lim_r to pi fracrsin(fracpi-r2)2(pi - r)$$
                      $$ = frac14lim_r to pi fracrsin(fracpi-r2)fracpi-r2$$
                      Substitute $k = fracpi-r2$, $;;r= pi-2k$
                      $$ = frac14lim_k to 0 frac(pi-2k)sin(k)k$$
                      $$ = frac14bigg[lim_k to 0 (pi-2k)*lim_k to 0fracsin(k)kbigg]$$
                      $$=fracpi4$$
                      I unfortunately only got this after an answer was accepted, as messing around with a limit this much takes a while and involved some trial and error before I could figure out what to do... there might be a way to condense this proof, but I always jump right into these things by making substitution after substitution until I get to a form that I know.






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                        Here is my solution using only $lim_x to 0 fracsin(x)x = 1$, using the methods the questions asks for (the $t$ substitution)
                        $$lim_x to 2 fraccos(pi/x)x-2$$
                        $$ = lim_x to 2 fracsin(fracpi2 - fracpix)x-2$$
                        substitute $t= fracpi2 - fracpix$, $;;x = frac2 pipi-2 t$
                        $$ = lim_t to 0 fracsin(t)frac2 pipi-2 t-2$$
                        $$ = lim_t to 0 fracsin(t)frac2 pi - 2(pi-2 t)pi-2 t$$
                        $$ = lim_t to 0 frac(pi-2 t)sin(t)2 pi - 2(pi-2 t)$$
                        Substitute $r = pi-2 t$, $;;t = fracpi-r2$
                        $$ = lim_r to pi fracrsin(fracpi-r2)2(pi - r)$$
                        $$ = frac14lim_r to pi fracrsin(fracpi-r2)fracpi-r2$$
                        Substitute $k = fracpi-r2$, $;;r= pi-2k$
                        $$ = frac14lim_k to 0 frac(pi-2k)sin(k)k$$
                        $$ = frac14bigg[lim_k to 0 (pi-2k)*lim_k to 0fracsin(k)kbigg]$$
                        $$=fracpi4$$
                        I unfortunately only got this after an answer was accepted, as messing around with a limit this much takes a while and involved some trial and error before I could figure out what to do... there might be a way to condense this proof, but I always jump right into these things by making substitution after substitution until I get to a form that I know.






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                        Here is my solution using only $lim_x to 0 fracsin(x)x = 1$, using the methods the questions asks for (the $t$ substitution)
                        $$lim_x to 2 fraccos(pi/x)x-2$$
                        $$ = lim_x to 2 fracsin(fracpi2 - fracpix)x-2$$
                        substitute $t= fracpi2 - fracpix$, $;;x = frac2 pipi-2 t$
                        $$ = lim_t to 0 fracsin(t)frac2 pipi-2 t-2$$
                        $$ = lim_t to 0 fracsin(t)frac2 pi - 2(pi-2 t)pi-2 t$$
                        $$ = lim_t to 0 frac(pi-2 t)sin(t)2 pi - 2(pi-2 t)$$
                        Substitute $r = pi-2 t$, $;;t = fracpi-r2$
                        $$ = lim_r to pi fracrsin(fracpi-r2)2(pi - r)$$
                        $$ = frac14lim_r to pi fracrsin(fracpi-r2)fracpi-r2$$
                        Substitute $k = fracpi-r2$, $;;r= pi-2k$
                        $$ = frac14lim_k to 0 frac(pi-2k)sin(k)k$$
                        $$ = frac14bigg[lim_k to 0 (pi-2k)*lim_k to 0fracsin(k)kbigg]$$
                        $$=fracpi4$$
                        I unfortunately only got this after an answer was accepted, as messing around with a limit this much takes a while and involved some trial and error before I could figure out what to do... there might be a way to condense this proof, but I always jump right into these things by making substitution after substitution until I get to a form that I know.







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                            $$lim_xto2fraccos(π/x)x-2$$
                            Which leads us to an Indeterminate form i.e.,(0/0) form ,
                            so apply L-Hospital rule ,

                            $$lim_xto2[-sin(π/x)-π/x^2]
                            =lim_xto2 fracπx^2
                            =fracpi4$$






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                              $$lim_xto2fraccos(π/x)x-2$$
                              Which leads us to an Indeterminate form i.e.,(0/0) form ,
                              so apply L-Hospital rule ,

                              $$lim_xto2[-sin(π/x)-π/x^2]
                              =lim_xto2 fracπx^2
                              =fracpi4$$






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                                $$lim_xto2fraccos(π/x)x-2$$
                                Which leads us to an Indeterminate form i.e.,(0/0) form ,
                                so apply L-Hospital rule ,

                                $$lim_xto2[-sin(π/x)-π/x^2]
                                =lim_xto2 fracπx^2
                                =fracpi4$$






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                                $$lim_xto2fraccos(π/x)x-2$$
                                Which leads us to an Indeterminate form i.e.,(0/0) form ,
                                so apply L-Hospital rule ,

                                $$lim_xto2[-sin(π/x)-π/x^2]
                                =lim_xto2 fracπx^2
                                =fracpi4$$







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                                    Let $x=2+y$ with $yne 0$.We have $x-2=y$ and $ pi/x=pi/(2+y)=pi/2-pi y/(4+2 y) . $ So $cos pi/x=sin pi y/(4+2 y)=(1-f(y)(pi y/(4+2 y)$ where $lim_yto 0 f(y)=0 . $ Hence $(cos pi/x)/(2-x)= (1-f(y)(pi/(4+2 y)).$






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                                      Let $x=2+y$ with $yne 0$.We have $x-2=y$ and $ pi/x=pi/(2+y)=pi/2-pi y/(4+2 y) . $ So $cos pi/x=sin pi y/(4+2 y)=(1-f(y)(pi y/(4+2 y)$ where $lim_yto 0 f(y)=0 . $ Hence $(cos pi/x)/(2-x)= (1-f(y)(pi/(4+2 y)).$






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                                        Let $x=2+y$ with $yne 0$.We have $x-2=y$ and $ pi/x=pi/(2+y)=pi/2-pi y/(4+2 y) . $ So $cos pi/x=sin pi y/(4+2 y)=(1-f(y)(pi y/(4+2 y)$ where $lim_yto 0 f(y)=0 . $ Hence $(cos pi/x)/(2-x)= (1-f(y)(pi/(4+2 y)).$






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                                        Let $x=2+y$ with $yne 0$.We have $x-2=y$ and $ pi/x=pi/(2+y)=pi/2-pi y/(4+2 y) . $ So $cos pi/x=sin pi y/(4+2 y)=(1-f(y)(pi y/(4+2 y)$ where $lim_yto 0 f(y)=0 . $ Hence $(cos pi/x)/(2-x)= (1-f(y)(pi/(4+2 y)).$







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                                            Let $dfrac1x=y$ then
                                            beginalign
                                            limlimits_x to 2 fraccosleft(fracpixright)x-2
                                            &= limlimits_y to frac12 fracsinleft(fracpi2-pi yright)dfrac1y-2\
                                            &= limlimits_y to frac12 fracsinpileft(frac12- yright)pileft(frac12- yright)dfracleft(frac12- yright)1-2ypi y\
                                            &= colorbluedfracpi4
                                            endalign






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                                              Let $dfrac1x=y$ then
                                              beginalign
                                              limlimits_x to 2 fraccosleft(fracpixright)x-2
                                              &= limlimits_y to frac12 fracsinleft(fracpi2-pi yright)dfrac1y-2\
                                              &= limlimits_y to frac12 fracsinpileft(frac12- yright)pileft(frac12- yright)dfracleft(frac12- yright)1-2ypi y\
                                              &= colorbluedfracpi4
                                              endalign






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                                                Let $dfrac1x=y$ then
                                                beginalign
                                                limlimits_x to 2 fraccosleft(fracpixright)x-2
                                                &= limlimits_y to frac12 fracsinleft(fracpi2-pi yright)dfrac1y-2\
                                                &= limlimits_y to frac12 fracsinpileft(frac12- yright)pileft(frac12- yright)dfracleft(frac12- yright)1-2ypi y\
                                                &= colorbluedfracpi4
                                                endalign






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                                                Let $dfrac1x=y$ then
                                                beginalign
                                                limlimits_x to 2 fraccosleft(fracpixright)x-2
                                                &= limlimits_y to frac12 fracsinleft(fracpi2-pi yright)dfrac1y-2\
                                                &= limlimits_y to frac12 fracsinpileft(frac12- yright)pileft(frac12- yright)dfracleft(frac12- yright)1-2ypi y\
                                                &= colorbluedfracpi4
                                                endalign







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