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I've been fiddling with my rear derailleur trying to fine tune it, because I just replaced my entire drivetrain (same components, but new)



The problem that I'm facing now is that I can't seem to shift into my lowest gear.



Derailleur hanger doesn't seem bent.
The derailleur itself doesn't seem broken or bent.
I also know that it shifted into the largest gear before so whatever I did must be fixable.



Here's a picture when I'm shifted in the lowest gear:



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I've been fiddling with my rear derailleur trying to fine tune it, because I just replaced my entire drivetrain (same components, but new)



The problem that I'm facing now is that I can't seem to shift into my lowest gear.



Derailleur hanger doesn't seem bent.
The derailleur itself doesn't seem broken or bent.
I also know that it shifted into the largest gear before so whatever I did must be fixable.



Here's a picture when I'm shifted in the lowest gear:



enter image description here










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  • youtube.com/watch?v=WTP_ixVCP-g how to adjust low limit screw. maybe the screw is not adjusted correctly?
    – bucky
    Sep 7 at 9:15












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up vote
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I've been fiddling with my rear derailleur trying to fine tune it, because I just replaced my entire drivetrain (same components, but new)



The problem that I'm facing now is that I can't seem to shift into my lowest gear.



Derailleur hanger doesn't seem bent.
The derailleur itself doesn't seem broken or bent.
I also know that it shifted into the largest gear before so whatever I did must be fixable.



Here's a picture when I'm shifted in the lowest gear:



enter image description here










share|improve this question













I've been fiddling with my rear derailleur trying to fine tune it, because I just replaced my entire drivetrain (same components, but new)



The problem that I'm facing now is that I can't seem to shift into my lowest gear.



Derailleur hanger doesn't seem bent.
The derailleur itself doesn't seem broken or bent.
I also know that it shifted into the largest gear before so whatever I did must be fixable.



Here's a picture when I'm shifted in the lowest gear:



enter image description here







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  • youtube.com/watch?v=WTP_ixVCP-g how to adjust low limit screw. maybe the screw is not adjusted correctly?
    – bucky
    Sep 7 at 9:15
















  • youtube.com/watch?v=WTP_ixVCP-g how to adjust low limit screw. maybe the screw is not adjusted correctly?
    – bucky
    Sep 7 at 9:15















youtube.com/watch?v=WTP_ixVCP-g how to adjust low limit screw. maybe the screw is not adjusted correctly?
– bucky
Sep 7 at 9:15




youtube.com/watch?v=WTP_ixVCP-g how to adjust low limit screw. maybe the screw is not adjusted correctly?
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Either the L screw which limits how far the derailleur can move towards the wheel is too far in or the cable tension is too low.



Try to increase the cable tension first by turning the barrel adjuster on the derailleur counter-clockwise. However, it looks like it’s already pretty far out. If it’s at the maximum you have to shift to the smallest cog (highest gear), screw the barrel adjuster all the way in, unclamp the cable, pull on the cable as far as possible (pliers help) and then clamp it again.



If the cable tension doesn't help you have to turn the L screw counter-clockwise to allow the derailleur to move farther. Don't turn it out too far or the chain will fall over the cog into the spokes.



Park Tool offers a good tutorial here: https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/rear-derailleur-adjustment






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    I agree with Michael. Adjust cable tension (increase it by counter clockwise turning of the barrel adjuster) first.



    However, on zooming in on your photo, it appears that both your limit screws are fully in (tight). I've never experienced a derailleur that didn't have one or both unwound somewhat. The "L" or low-limit screw should be loosened (counter-clockwise) a 1/4 to 1/2 a turn a time. You should see the derailleur respond when manipulating the L screw when your chain is in the position of the photo: the low-gear side of the cassette.



    The guide pulley wheel should come directly under/in-line with the cassette cog. This should be case gear for gear, however you "set" this at the high (small) cog via the (H) limit screw (loosen/clockwise turns = moves the guide pulley more outboard & tightening/clockwise = guide pulley is drawn inward). If you're running multiple chainwrings, set the H/ high limit screw with the chain on the largest chain ring and smallest cassette cog.



    For the L/low limit adjustment chain should be on smallest chainring and largest cassette cog (or here in this case, the next to largest because I believe you'll find the derailleur is being prevented from moving far enough inward to hook that last, big cog because your L screw is too tight and therefore the derailleur is "limited" from getting there.



    Keep a few things in mind: as Michael pointed out, if the L/ low limit screw is unwound too much, that situation can result in the derailleur moving so far in it catches the spokes--and NOT good. So just loosen L enough so that the guide pulley is in line with that last cog. I then give the shifter a little push -- it doesn't click as there is no detents left but it causes the cable to tighten slightly which move the derailleur ever so much, and I do this to make sure the derailleur is limited from going to far inboard in the event of an overshift.



    And when you've set your H/L limit screws at the high, then the low, ends of the cassette, you don't mess with them. In other words, I noted that the guide pulley should be directly under each cog, gear for gear. If you see that maybe that's not the case somewhere mid-cassette, you wouldn't adjust the L/H limit screws. And related to that, you don't adjust those screws to correct shifting troubles along the cassette. That's what the barrel adjuster(s) are for as they effect cable tension which is what does the shifting (in coordination with the derailleur's spring tension).






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      I'd actually recommend setting the limits first, then indexing, then there is no confusion between the cable holding the derailleur or the limit screw. The Park tool guide linked to by @Micheal is excellent.
      – Argenti Apparatus
      Sep 7 at 15:35










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    Either the L screw which limits how far the derailleur can move towards the wheel is too far in or the cable tension is too low.



    Try to increase the cable tension first by turning the barrel adjuster on the derailleur counter-clockwise. However, it looks like it’s already pretty far out. If it’s at the maximum you have to shift to the smallest cog (highest gear), screw the barrel adjuster all the way in, unclamp the cable, pull on the cable as far as possible (pliers help) and then clamp it again.



    If the cable tension doesn't help you have to turn the L screw counter-clockwise to allow the derailleur to move farther. Don't turn it out too far or the chain will fall over the cog into the spokes.



    Park Tool offers a good tutorial here: https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/rear-derailleur-adjustment






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      up vote
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      Either the L screw which limits how far the derailleur can move towards the wheel is too far in or the cable tension is too low.



      Try to increase the cable tension first by turning the barrel adjuster on the derailleur counter-clockwise. However, it looks like it’s already pretty far out. If it’s at the maximum you have to shift to the smallest cog (highest gear), screw the barrel adjuster all the way in, unclamp the cable, pull on the cable as far as possible (pliers help) and then clamp it again.



      If the cable tension doesn't help you have to turn the L screw counter-clockwise to allow the derailleur to move farther. Don't turn it out too far or the chain will fall over the cog into the spokes.



      Park Tool offers a good tutorial here: https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/rear-derailleur-adjustment






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        Either the L screw which limits how far the derailleur can move towards the wheel is too far in or the cable tension is too low.



        Try to increase the cable tension first by turning the barrel adjuster on the derailleur counter-clockwise. However, it looks like it’s already pretty far out. If it’s at the maximum you have to shift to the smallest cog (highest gear), screw the barrel adjuster all the way in, unclamp the cable, pull on the cable as far as possible (pliers help) and then clamp it again.



        If the cable tension doesn't help you have to turn the L screw counter-clockwise to allow the derailleur to move farther. Don't turn it out too far or the chain will fall over the cog into the spokes.



        Park Tool offers a good tutorial here: https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/rear-derailleur-adjustment






        share|improve this answer














        Either the L screw which limits how far the derailleur can move towards the wheel is too far in or the cable tension is too low.



        Try to increase the cable tension first by turning the barrel adjuster on the derailleur counter-clockwise. However, it looks like it’s already pretty far out. If it’s at the maximum you have to shift to the smallest cog (highest gear), screw the barrel adjuster all the way in, unclamp the cable, pull on the cable as far as possible (pliers help) and then clamp it again.



        If the cable tension doesn't help you have to turn the L screw counter-clockwise to allow the derailleur to move farther. Don't turn it out too far or the chain will fall over the cog into the spokes.



        Park Tool offers a good tutorial here: https://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/rear-derailleur-adjustment







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            I agree with Michael. Adjust cable tension (increase it by counter clockwise turning of the barrel adjuster) first.



            However, on zooming in on your photo, it appears that both your limit screws are fully in (tight). I've never experienced a derailleur that didn't have one or both unwound somewhat. The "L" or low-limit screw should be loosened (counter-clockwise) a 1/4 to 1/2 a turn a time. You should see the derailleur respond when manipulating the L screw when your chain is in the position of the photo: the low-gear side of the cassette.



            The guide pulley wheel should come directly under/in-line with the cassette cog. This should be case gear for gear, however you "set" this at the high (small) cog via the (H) limit screw (loosen/clockwise turns = moves the guide pulley more outboard & tightening/clockwise = guide pulley is drawn inward). If you're running multiple chainwrings, set the H/ high limit screw with the chain on the largest chain ring and smallest cassette cog.



            For the L/low limit adjustment chain should be on smallest chainring and largest cassette cog (or here in this case, the next to largest because I believe you'll find the derailleur is being prevented from moving far enough inward to hook that last, big cog because your L screw is too tight and therefore the derailleur is "limited" from getting there.



            Keep a few things in mind: as Michael pointed out, if the L/ low limit screw is unwound too much, that situation can result in the derailleur moving so far in it catches the spokes--and NOT good. So just loosen L enough so that the guide pulley is in line with that last cog. I then give the shifter a little push -- it doesn't click as there is no detents left but it causes the cable to tighten slightly which move the derailleur ever so much, and I do this to make sure the derailleur is limited from going to far inboard in the event of an overshift.



            And when you've set your H/L limit screws at the high, then the low, ends of the cassette, you don't mess with them. In other words, I noted that the guide pulley should be directly under each cog, gear for gear. If you see that maybe that's not the case somewhere mid-cassette, you wouldn't adjust the L/H limit screws. And related to that, you don't adjust those screws to correct shifting troubles along the cassette. That's what the barrel adjuster(s) are for as they effect cable tension which is what does the shifting (in coordination with the derailleur's spring tension).






            share|improve this answer






















            • Some line breaks would be useful to make this massive text block easier to read.
              – user39336
              Sep 7 at 13:45






            • 1




              I'd actually recommend setting the limits first, then indexing, then there is no confusion between the cable holding the derailleur or the limit screw. The Park tool guide linked to by @Micheal is excellent.
              – Argenti Apparatus
              Sep 7 at 15:35














            up vote
            2
            down vote













            I agree with Michael. Adjust cable tension (increase it by counter clockwise turning of the barrel adjuster) first.



            However, on zooming in on your photo, it appears that both your limit screws are fully in (tight). I've never experienced a derailleur that didn't have one or both unwound somewhat. The "L" or low-limit screw should be loosened (counter-clockwise) a 1/4 to 1/2 a turn a time. You should see the derailleur respond when manipulating the L screw when your chain is in the position of the photo: the low-gear side of the cassette.



            The guide pulley wheel should come directly under/in-line with the cassette cog. This should be case gear for gear, however you "set" this at the high (small) cog via the (H) limit screw (loosen/clockwise turns = moves the guide pulley more outboard & tightening/clockwise = guide pulley is drawn inward). If you're running multiple chainwrings, set the H/ high limit screw with the chain on the largest chain ring and smallest cassette cog.



            For the L/low limit adjustment chain should be on smallest chainring and largest cassette cog (or here in this case, the next to largest because I believe you'll find the derailleur is being prevented from moving far enough inward to hook that last, big cog because your L screw is too tight and therefore the derailleur is "limited" from getting there.



            Keep a few things in mind: as Michael pointed out, if the L/ low limit screw is unwound too much, that situation can result in the derailleur moving so far in it catches the spokes--and NOT good. So just loosen L enough so that the guide pulley is in line with that last cog. I then give the shifter a little push -- it doesn't click as there is no detents left but it causes the cable to tighten slightly which move the derailleur ever so much, and I do this to make sure the derailleur is limited from going to far inboard in the event of an overshift.



            And when you've set your H/L limit screws at the high, then the low, ends of the cassette, you don't mess with them. In other words, I noted that the guide pulley should be directly under each cog, gear for gear. If you see that maybe that's not the case somewhere mid-cassette, you wouldn't adjust the L/H limit screws. And related to that, you don't adjust those screws to correct shifting troubles along the cassette. That's what the barrel adjuster(s) are for as they effect cable tension which is what does the shifting (in coordination with the derailleur's spring tension).






            share|improve this answer






















            • Some line breaks would be useful to make this massive text block easier to read.
              – user39336
              Sep 7 at 13:45






            • 1




              I'd actually recommend setting the limits first, then indexing, then there is no confusion between the cable holding the derailleur or the limit screw. The Park tool guide linked to by @Micheal is excellent.
              – Argenti Apparatus
              Sep 7 at 15:35












            up vote
            2
            down vote










            up vote
            2
            down vote









            I agree with Michael. Adjust cable tension (increase it by counter clockwise turning of the barrel adjuster) first.



            However, on zooming in on your photo, it appears that both your limit screws are fully in (tight). I've never experienced a derailleur that didn't have one or both unwound somewhat. The "L" or low-limit screw should be loosened (counter-clockwise) a 1/4 to 1/2 a turn a time. You should see the derailleur respond when manipulating the L screw when your chain is in the position of the photo: the low-gear side of the cassette.



            The guide pulley wheel should come directly under/in-line with the cassette cog. This should be case gear for gear, however you "set" this at the high (small) cog via the (H) limit screw (loosen/clockwise turns = moves the guide pulley more outboard & tightening/clockwise = guide pulley is drawn inward). If you're running multiple chainwrings, set the H/ high limit screw with the chain on the largest chain ring and smallest cassette cog.



            For the L/low limit adjustment chain should be on smallest chainring and largest cassette cog (or here in this case, the next to largest because I believe you'll find the derailleur is being prevented from moving far enough inward to hook that last, big cog because your L screw is too tight and therefore the derailleur is "limited" from getting there.



            Keep a few things in mind: as Michael pointed out, if the L/ low limit screw is unwound too much, that situation can result in the derailleur moving so far in it catches the spokes--and NOT good. So just loosen L enough so that the guide pulley is in line with that last cog. I then give the shifter a little push -- it doesn't click as there is no detents left but it causes the cable to tighten slightly which move the derailleur ever so much, and I do this to make sure the derailleur is limited from going to far inboard in the event of an overshift.



            And when you've set your H/L limit screws at the high, then the low, ends of the cassette, you don't mess with them. In other words, I noted that the guide pulley should be directly under each cog, gear for gear. If you see that maybe that's not the case somewhere mid-cassette, you wouldn't adjust the L/H limit screws. And related to that, you don't adjust those screws to correct shifting troubles along the cassette. That's what the barrel adjuster(s) are for as they effect cable tension which is what does the shifting (in coordination with the derailleur's spring tension).






            share|improve this answer














            I agree with Michael. Adjust cable tension (increase it by counter clockwise turning of the barrel adjuster) first.



            However, on zooming in on your photo, it appears that both your limit screws are fully in (tight). I've never experienced a derailleur that didn't have one or both unwound somewhat. The "L" or low-limit screw should be loosened (counter-clockwise) a 1/4 to 1/2 a turn a time. You should see the derailleur respond when manipulating the L screw when your chain is in the position of the photo: the low-gear side of the cassette.



            The guide pulley wheel should come directly under/in-line with the cassette cog. This should be case gear for gear, however you "set" this at the high (small) cog via the (H) limit screw (loosen/clockwise turns = moves the guide pulley more outboard & tightening/clockwise = guide pulley is drawn inward). If you're running multiple chainwrings, set the H/ high limit screw with the chain on the largest chain ring and smallest cassette cog.



            For the L/low limit adjustment chain should be on smallest chainring and largest cassette cog (or here in this case, the next to largest because I believe you'll find the derailleur is being prevented from moving far enough inward to hook that last, big cog because your L screw is too tight and therefore the derailleur is "limited" from getting there.



            Keep a few things in mind: as Michael pointed out, if the L/ low limit screw is unwound too much, that situation can result in the derailleur moving so far in it catches the spokes--and NOT good. So just loosen L enough so that the guide pulley is in line with that last cog. I then give the shifter a little push -- it doesn't click as there is no detents left but it causes the cable to tighten slightly which move the derailleur ever so much, and I do this to make sure the derailleur is limited from going to far inboard in the event of an overshift.



            And when you've set your H/L limit screws at the high, then the low, ends of the cassette, you don't mess with them. In other words, I noted that the guide pulley should be directly under each cog, gear for gear. If you see that maybe that's not the case somewhere mid-cassette, you wouldn't adjust the L/H limit screws. And related to that, you don't adjust those screws to correct shifting troubles along the cassette. That's what the barrel adjuster(s) are for as they effect cable tension which is what does the shifting (in coordination with the derailleur's spring tension).







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            edited Sep 7 at 15:32









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            • Some line breaks would be useful to make this massive text block easier to read.
              – user39336
              Sep 7 at 13:45






            • 1




              I'd actually recommend setting the limits first, then indexing, then there is no confusion between the cable holding the derailleur or the limit screw. The Park tool guide linked to by @Micheal is excellent.
              – Argenti Apparatus
              Sep 7 at 15:35
















            • Some line breaks would be useful to make this massive text block easier to read.
              – user39336
              Sep 7 at 13:45






            • 1




              I'd actually recommend setting the limits first, then indexing, then there is no confusion between the cable holding the derailleur or the limit screw. The Park tool guide linked to by @Micheal is excellent.
              – Argenti Apparatus
              Sep 7 at 15:35















            Some line breaks would be useful to make this massive text block easier to read.
            – user39336
            Sep 7 at 13:45




            Some line breaks would be useful to make this massive text block easier to read.
            – user39336
            Sep 7 at 13:45




            1




            1




            I'd actually recommend setting the limits first, then indexing, then there is no confusion between the cable holding the derailleur or the limit screw. The Park tool guide linked to by @Micheal is excellent.
            – Argenti Apparatus
            Sep 7 at 15:35




            I'd actually recommend setting the limits first, then indexing, then there is no confusion between the cable holding the derailleur or the limit screw. The Park tool guide linked to by @Micheal is excellent.
            – Argenti Apparatus
            Sep 7 at 15:35

















             

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