Finding a basis for symmetric $k$-tensors on $V$

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We say a function is $k$-linear if it takes $k$ values as input and is linear with respect to each of them. For example, determinant is a $n$-linear function. (If the matrix is $n times n$)



A tensor is a function $T:V times Vtimes Vtimes dotstimes Vto mathbb R$ ($k$ vectors taken as input) such that $T$ is $k$-linear. (Its linear with respect to each of its $k$ inputs) ($V$ is a vector space)



A symmetric tensor is a tensor that is invariant under a permutation of its vector arguments. Meaning:

$T(v_1,v_2,dots,v_r)=T(v_sigma(1),v_sigma(2),dots,v_sigma(r))$ For each permutation $sigma$ of the symbols $1,2,dots,r$.



We call $Sym^k(V)$ the vector space of all symmetric $k$-tensors on vector space $V$.



If $T$ is a $m$-tensor and $S$ is a $n$-tensor, then $T otimes S$ is a $m+n$-tensor such that for each $(v_1,dots,v_m,v_m+1,dots,v_m+n)$ $T otimes S(v_1,dots,v_m,v_m+1,dots,v_m+n)=T(v_1,dots,v_m)S(v_m+1,dots,v_m+n)$.



Now we want to find a basis for this vector space.



I know that the basis should consist of something related to the sum of tensor products of the elements of the basis of the dual space of $V$ (called $V^*$). But i can't see how. The complete Question is written below:



Let $V$ be an $n$-dimensional vector space. Compute the dimension of $Sym^k(V)$. (It can be also found here Page 33)



I know that every $k$-tensor can be written as a linear combination of $e^i_1otimes e^i_2otimesdotsotimes e^i_k$ such that $1 le i_1,dots,i_kle n$. But i don't know which members should be eliminated to form a basis for just the symmetric $k$-tensors (Not all $k$-tensors).



Note: For example, I know that if $k=3$, A member of the basis of $Sym^3(V)$ is $e^1otimes e^2 otimes e^1+e^2otimes e^1 otimes e^1+e^1otimes e^1 otimes e^2$. But i don't know why! I want explanation. I have the answer... The dimension of $Sym^k(V)$ is $n+k-1 choose k$. My problem is that i don't know why this sum and why the coefficient should be the same for those elements in the sum.










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    Hint: by symmetry you only need to know a $k$-linear function's behavior on the elementary tensors where $1leq i_1 leq i_2 leq cdots leq i_k leq n$. (By the way, different books have other conventions on what a $k$-tensor is. What you defined as a $k$-tensor lies in the $k$th tensor power of the dual space of $V$; for $k=1$, your 1-tensor is an element of the dual space of $V$, not an element of $V$. Often people want a $k$-tensor to be an element of the $k$th tensor power of $V$ itself.)
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  • @KCd Can you please explain how the basis of $Sym^3(V)$ is made?
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 17:05










  • Use the hint KCd gave you.
    – arctic tern
    Mar 11 '17 at 17:54










  • What exactly is $e^i$ supposed to mean?
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:00










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    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:13














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We say a function is $k$-linear if it takes $k$ values as input and is linear with respect to each of them. For example, determinant is a $n$-linear function. (If the matrix is $n times n$)



A tensor is a function $T:V times Vtimes Vtimes dotstimes Vto mathbb R$ ($k$ vectors taken as input) such that $T$ is $k$-linear. (Its linear with respect to each of its $k$ inputs) ($V$ is a vector space)



A symmetric tensor is a tensor that is invariant under a permutation of its vector arguments. Meaning:

$T(v_1,v_2,dots,v_r)=T(v_sigma(1),v_sigma(2),dots,v_sigma(r))$ For each permutation $sigma$ of the symbols $1,2,dots,r$.



We call $Sym^k(V)$ the vector space of all symmetric $k$-tensors on vector space $V$.



If $T$ is a $m$-tensor and $S$ is a $n$-tensor, then $T otimes S$ is a $m+n$-tensor such that for each $(v_1,dots,v_m,v_m+1,dots,v_m+n)$ $T otimes S(v_1,dots,v_m,v_m+1,dots,v_m+n)=T(v_1,dots,v_m)S(v_m+1,dots,v_m+n)$.



Now we want to find a basis for this vector space.



I know that the basis should consist of something related to the sum of tensor products of the elements of the basis of the dual space of $V$ (called $V^*$). But i can't see how. The complete Question is written below:



Let $V$ be an $n$-dimensional vector space. Compute the dimension of $Sym^k(V)$. (It can be also found here Page 33)



I know that every $k$-tensor can be written as a linear combination of $e^i_1otimes e^i_2otimesdotsotimes e^i_k$ such that $1 le i_1,dots,i_kle n$. But i don't know which members should be eliminated to form a basis for just the symmetric $k$-tensors (Not all $k$-tensors).



Note: For example, I know that if $k=3$, A member of the basis of $Sym^3(V)$ is $e^1otimes e^2 otimes e^1+e^2otimes e^1 otimes e^1+e^1otimes e^1 otimes e^2$. But i don't know why! I want explanation. I have the answer... The dimension of $Sym^k(V)$ is $n+k-1 choose k$. My problem is that i don't know why this sum and why the coefficient should be the same for those elements in the sum.










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    Hint: by symmetry you only need to know a $k$-linear function's behavior on the elementary tensors where $1leq i_1 leq i_2 leq cdots leq i_k leq n$. (By the way, different books have other conventions on what a $k$-tensor is. What you defined as a $k$-tensor lies in the $k$th tensor power of the dual space of $V$; for $k=1$, your 1-tensor is an element of the dual space of $V$, not an element of $V$. Often people want a $k$-tensor to be an element of the $k$th tensor power of $V$ itself.)
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    Mar 11 '17 at 14:20











  • @KCd Can you please explain how the basis of $Sym^3(V)$ is made?
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 17:05










  • Use the hint KCd gave you.
    – arctic tern
    Mar 11 '17 at 17:54










  • What exactly is $e^i$ supposed to mean?
    – Omnomnomnom
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  • @arctictern excuse me if i'm stupid but i can't understand what he's saying
    – Arman Malekzadeh
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We say a function is $k$-linear if it takes $k$ values as input and is linear with respect to each of them. For example, determinant is a $n$-linear function. (If the matrix is $n times n$)



A tensor is a function $T:V times Vtimes Vtimes dotstimes Vto mathbb R$ ($k$ vectors taken as input) such that $T$ is $k$-linear. (Its linear with respect to each of its $k$ inputs) ($V$ is a vector space)



A symmetric tensor is a tensor that is invariant under a permutation of its vector arguments. Meaning:

$T(v_1,v_2,dots,v_r)=T(v_sigma(1),v_sigma(2),dots,v_sigma(r))$ For each permutation $sigma$ of the symbols $1,2,dots,r$.



We call $Sym^k(V)$ the vector space of all symmetric $k$-tensors on vector space $V$.



If $T$ is a $m$-tensor and $S$ is a $n$-tensor, then $T otimes S$ is a $m+n$-tensor such that for each $(v_1,dots,v_m,v_m+1,dots,v_m+n)$ $T otimes S(v_1,dots,v_m,v_m+1,dots,v_m+n)=T(v_1,dots,v_m)S(v_m+1,dots,v_m+n)$.



Now we want to find a basis for this vector space.



I know that the basis should consist of something related to the sum of tensor products of the elements of the basis of the dual space of $V$ (called $V^*$). But i can't see how. The complete Question is written below:



Let $V$ be an $n$-dimensional vector space. Compute the dimension of $Sym^k(V)$. (It can be also found here Page 33)



I know that every $k$-tensor can be written as a linear combination of $e^i_1otimes e^i_2otimesdotsotimes e^i_k$ such that $1 le i_1,dots,i_kle n$. But i don't know which members should be eliminated to form a basis for just the symmetric $k$-tensors (Not all $k$-tensors).



Note: For example, I know that if $k=3$, A member of the basis of $Sym^3(V)$ is $e^1otimes e^2 otimes e^1+e^2otimes e^1 otimes e^1+e^1otimes e^1 otimes e^2$. But i don't know why! I want explanation. I have the answer... The dimension of $Sym^k(V)$ is $n+k-1 choose k$. My problem is that i don't know why this sum and why the coefficient should be the same for those elements in the sum.










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We say a function is $k$-linear if it takes $k$ values as input and is linear with respect to each of them. For example, determinant is a $n$-linear function. (If the matrix is $n times n$)



A tensor is a function $T:V times Vtimes Vtimes dotstimes Vto mathbb R$ ($k$ vectors taken as input) such that $T$ is $k$-linear. (Its linear with respect to each of its $k$ inputs) ($V$ is a vector space)



A symmetric tensor is a tensor that is invariant under a permutation of its vector arguments. Meaning:

$T(v_1,v_2,dots,v_r)=T(v_sigma(1),v_sigma(2),dots,v_sigma(r))$ For each permutation $sigma$ of the symbols $1,2,dots,r$.



We call $Sym^k(V)$ the vector space of all symmetric $k$-tensors on vector space $V$.



If $T$ is a $m$-tensor and $S$ is a $n$-tensor, then $T otimes S$ is a $m+n$-tensor such that for each $(v_1,dots,v_m,v_m+1,dots,v_m+n)$ $T otimes S(v_1,dots,v_m,v_m+1,dots,v_m+n)=T(v_1,dots,v_m)S(v_m+1,dots,v_m+n)$.



Now we want to find a basis for this vector space.



I know that the basis should consist of something related to the sum of tensor products of the elements of the basis of the dual space of $V$ (called $V^*$). But i can't see how. The complete Question is written below:



Let $V$ be an $n$-dimensional vector space. Compute the dimension of $Sym^k(V)$. (It can be also found here Page 33)



I know that every $k$-tensor can be written as a linear combination of $e^i_1otimes e^i_2otimesdotsotimes e^i_k$ such that $1 le i_1,dots,i_kle n$. But i don't know which members should be eliminated to form a basis for just the symmetric $k$-tensors (Not all $k$-tensors).



Note: For example, I know that if $k=3$, A member of the basis of $Sym^3(V)$ is $e^1otimes e^2 otimes e^1+e^2otimes e^1 otimes e^1+e^1otimes e^1 otimes e^2$. But i don't know why! I want explanation. I have the answer... The dimension of $Sym^k(V)$ is $n+k-1 choose k$. My problem is that i don't know why this sum and why the coefficient should be the same for those elements in the sum.







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    Hint: by symmetry you only need to know a $k$-linear function's behavior on the elementary tensors where $1leq i_1 leq i_2 leq cdots leq i_k leq n$. (By the way, different books have other conventions on what a $k$-tensor is. What you defined as a $k$-tensor lies in the $k$th tensor power of the dual space of $V$; for $k=1$, your 1-tensor is an element of the dual space of $V$, not an element of $V$. Often people want a $k$-tensor to be an element of the $k$th tensor power of $V$ itself.)
    – KCd
    Mar 11 '17 at 14:20











  • @KCd Can you please explain how the basis of $Sym^3(V)$ is made?
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 17:05










  • Use the hint KCd gave you.
    – arctic tern
    Mar 11 '17 at 17:54










  • What exactly is $e^i$ supposed to mean?
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:00










  • @arctictern excuse me if i'm stupid but i can't understand what he's saying
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:13












  • 2




    Hint: by symmetry you only need to know a $k$-linear function's behavior on the elementary tensors where $1leq i_1 leq i_2 leq cdots leq i_k leq n$. (By the way, different books have other conventions on what a $k$-tensor is. What you defined as a $k$-tensor lies in the $k$th tensor power of the dual space of $V$; for $k=1$, your 1-tensor is an element of the dual space of $V$, not an element of $V$. Often people want a $k$-tensor to be an element of the $k$th tensor power of $V$ itself.)
    – KCd
    Mar 11 '17 at 14:20











  • @KCd Can you please explain how the basis of $Sym^3(V)$ is made?
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 17:05










  • Use the hint KCd gave you.
    – arctic tern
    Mar 11 '17 at 17:54










  • What exactly is $e^i$ supposed to mean?
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:00










  • @arctictern excuse me if i'm stupid but i can't understand what he's saying
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:13







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Hint: by symmetry you only need to know a $k$-linear function's behavior on the elementary tensors where $1leq i_1 leq i_2 leq cdots leq i_k leq n$. (By the way, different books have other conventions on what a $k$-tensor is. What you defined as a $k$-tensor lies in the $k$th tensor power of the dual space of $V$; for $k=1$, your 1-tensor is an element of the dual space of $V$, not an element of $V$. Often people want a $k$-tensor to be an element of the $k$th tensor power of $V$ itself.)
– KCd
Mar 11 '17 at 14:20





Hint: by symmetry you only need to know a $k$-linear function's behavior on the elementary tensors where $1leq i_1 leq i_2 leq cdots leq i_k leq n$. (By the way, different books have other conventions on what a $k$-tensor is. What you defined as a $k$-tensor lies in the $k$th tensor power of the dual space of $V$; for $k=1$, your 1-tensor is an element of the dual space of $V$, not an element of $V$. Often people want a $k$-tensor to be an element of the $k$th tensor power of $V$ itself.)
– KCd
Mar 11 '17 at 14:20













@KCd Can you please explain how the basis of $Sym^3(V)$ is made?
– Arman Malekzadeh
Mar 11 '17 at 17:05




@KCd Can you please explain how the basis of $Sym^3(V)$ is made?
– Arman Malekzadeh
Mar 11 '17 at 17:05












Use the hint KCd gave you.
– arctic tern
Mar 11 '17 at 17:54




Use the hint KCd gave you.
– arctic tern
Mar 11 '17 at 17:54












What exactly is $e^i$ supposed to mean?
– Omnomnomnom
Mar 11 '17 at 18:00




What exactly is $e^i$ supposed to mean?
– Omnomnomnom
Mar 11 '17 at 18:00












@arctictern excuse me if i'm stupid but i can't understand what he's saying
– Arman Malekzadeh
Mar 11 '17 at 18:13




@arctictern excuse me if i'm stupid but i can't understand what he's saying
– Arman Malekzadeh
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I assume that $e_1,dots,e_n$ is a basis of $V$ and that $e^1,dots,e^n$ the associated dual basis of $V^*$.



First, let's consider the case of arbitrary (not necessarily symmetric) tensors. We note that, by linearity,
$$
T(v^(1), dots, v^(k)) =
Tleft( sum_i=1^n v^(1)_i e_i, dots, sum_i=1^n v^(k)_i e_i right) =
Tleft( sum_i_1=1^n v^(1)_i_1 e_i, dots, sum_i_k=1^n v^(k)_i_k e_i_k right) = \
sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n v^(1)_i_1 cdots v^(k)_i_k Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
$$
Now, define the tensor $tilde T$ by
$$
tilde T = sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k
$$
Prove that $tilde T(v^(1),dots,v^(k)) = T(v^(1),dots,v^(k))$ for any $v^(1),dots,v^(k)$. That is, $tilde T = T$. We've thus shown that any (not necessarily symmetric) $k$-tensor can be written as a linear combination of $e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k$.



The same applies for symmetric tensors. However, if $T$ is symmetric, then
$$
Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) =
Tleft(e_sigma(i_1), dots, e_sigma(i_k) right)
$$
for any permutation $sigma$. Thus, we may regroup the above sum as
$$
T = tilde T = sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n ;
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)sum_sigma in S_k Tleft(e_sigma(i_1), dots, e_sigma(i_k) right)
e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k) =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n ;
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)sum_sigma in S_k Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k) =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)
Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
underbracesum_sigma in S_k e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k)_textbasis element for Sym^k(V)
$$
Thus, we have expressed $T$ as a linear combination of the desired basis elements.




$alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)$ counts the number of times any element $(sigma(i_1),dots,sigma(i_n))$ appears in the summation over $sigma in S_n$. As the comment below points out, we have
$$
alpha(i_1,dots,i_k) = m_1! cdots m_n!
$$
where $m_j$ is the multiplicity of $j in 1,dots,n$ in the tuple $(i_1,dots,i_k)$.






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  • I'm really sorry... I'm even ashamed... Thank you for your answer... The last part... regrouping... which sum are u regrouping? the sum for $That$?
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:23










  • Yes, it's the sum for $tilde T$ (which we showed is also just a sum for $T$)
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:23










  • Note: $S_k$ denotes the set of all permutations on $k$ elements
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  • Omnom, $sum_sigmain S_k e^sigma(i_1)otimescdotsotimes e^sigma(i_k)$ will have each distinct summand occur with multiplicity $m_1!cdots m_n!$ where $m_j$ is how many $j$s appear in the multiset $i_1,cdots,i_k$, so this should be normalized.
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  • @arctictern well spotted
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Let's consider $mathbbR^2$ with standard basis $e_1,e_2$.



If $T$ is a symmetric tensor $T:mathbbR^2timesmathbbR^2timesmathbbR^2tomathbbR$, then we can group basis vectors $e^i_1otimes e^i_2otimes e^i_3$ of the tensor power $(mathbbR^2)^otimes 3$ according to whether or not $T$ must send them to the same value:



$$ beginarrayrrrr e_1otimes e_1otimes e_1 \ hline e_1otimes e_1otimes e_2 & e_1otimes e_2otimes e_1 & e_2otimes e_1otimes e_1 \ hline e_1otimes e_2otimes e_2 & e_2otimes e_1otimes e_2 & e_2otimes e_2otimes e_1 \ hline e_2otimes e_2otimes e_2 endarray $$



In other words, the values $T$ takes on any tensor can be determined as long as we know what values $T$ takes on



  1. $e_1otimes e_1otimes e_1$,

  2. $e_1otimes e_1otimes e_2$,

  3. $e_1otimes e_2otimes e_2$,

  4. $e_2otimes e_2otimes e_2$.

These are precisely the basis elements $e_i_1otimes e_i_2otimes e_i_3$ with $i_1le i_2le i_3$.



Conversely, given any four values $a,b,c,d$ we can arrange for $T$ to take these values on the above basis vectors by writing out



$$ beginarraylll T & = & a(e^1otimes e^1otimes e^1) \ &+ & b(e^1otimes e^1otimes e^2+e^1otimes e^2otimes e^1+e^2otimes e^1otimes e^1) \ & + & c(e^1otimes e^2otimes e^2+e^2otimes e^1otimes e^2+e^2otimes e^2otimes e^1) \ & + & d(e^2otimes e^2otimes e^2), endarray $$



Generalize.






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  • I truely appreciate your help
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  • @ArmanMalekzade this is precisely the idea that my answer applies in the general case
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  • @Omnomnomnom your answer and arctic tern's, helped me fully understand whats going on!
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I assume that $e_1,dots,e_n$ is a basis of $V$ and that $e^1,dots,e^n$ the associated dual basis of $V^*$.



First, let's consider the case of arbitrary (not necessarily symmetric) tensors. We note that, by linearity,
$$
T(v^(1), dots, v^(k)) =
Tleft( sum_i=1^n v^(1)_i e_i, dots, sum_i=1^n v^(k)_i e_i right) =
Tleft( sum_i_1=1^n v^(1)_i_1 e_i, dots, sum_i_k=1^n v^(k)_i_k e_i_k right) = \
sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n v^(1)_i_1 cdots v^(k)_i_k Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
$$
Now, define the tensor $tilde T$ by
$$
tilde T = sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k
$$
Prove that $tilde T(v^(1),dots,v^(k)) = T(v^(1),dots,v^(k))$ for any $v^(1),dots,v^(k)$. That is, $tilde T = T$. We've thus shown that any (not necessarily symmetric) $k$-tensor can be written as a linear combination of $e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k$.



The same applies for symmetric tensors. However, if $T$ is symmetric, then
$$
Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) =
Tleft(e_sigma(i_1), dots, e_sigma(i_k) right)
$$
for any permutation $sigma$. Thus, we may regroup the above sum as
$$
T = tilde T = sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n ;
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)sum_sigma in S_k Tleft(e_sigma(i_1), dots, e_sigma(i_k) right)
e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k) =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n ;
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)sum_sigma in S_k Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k) =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)
Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
underbracesum_sigma in S_k e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k)_textbasis element for Sym^k(V)
$$
Thus, we have expressed $T$ as a linear combination of the desired basis elements.




$alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)$ counts the number of times any element $(sigma(i_1),dots,sigma(i_n))$ appears in the summation over $sigma in S_n$. As the comment below points out, we have
$$
alpha(i_1,dots,i_k) = m_1! cdots m_n!
$$
where $m_j$ is the multiplicity of $j in 1,dots,n$ in the tuple $(i_1,dots,i_k)$.






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  • I'm really sorry... I'm even ashamed... Thank you for your answer... The last part... regrouping... which sum are u regrouping? the sum for $That$?
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:23










  • Yes, it's the sum for $tilde T$ (which we showed is also just a sum for $T$)
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:23










  • Note: $S_k$ denotes the set of all permutations on $k$ elements
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:27










  • Omnom, $sum_sigmain S_k e^sigma(i_1)otimescdotsotimes e^sigma(i_k)$ will have each distinct summand occur with multiplicity $m_1!cdots m_n!$ where $m_j$ is how many $j$s appear in the multiset $i_1,cdots,i_k$, so this should be normalized.
    – arctic tern
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:36











  • @arctictern well spotted
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:37














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I assume that $e_1,dots,e_n$ is a basis of $V$ and that $e^1,dots,e^n$ the associated dual basis of $V^*$.



First, let's consider the case of arbitrary (not necessarily symmetric) tensors. We note that, by linearity,
$$
T(v^(1), dots, v^(k)) =
Tleft( sum_i=1^n v^(1)_i e_i, dots, sum_i=1^n v^(k)_i e_i right) =
Tleft( sum_i_1=1^n v^(1)_i_1 e_i, dots, sum_i_k=1^n v^(k)_i_k e_i_k right) = \
sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n v^(1)_i_1 cdots v^(k)_i_k Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
$$
Now, define the tensor $tilde T$ by
$$
tilde T = sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k
$$
Prove that $tilde T(v^(1),dots,v^(k)) = T(v^(1),dots,v^(k))$ for any $v^(1),dots,v^(k)$. That is, $tilde T = T$. We've thus shown that any (not necessarily symmetric) $k$-tensor can be written as a linear combination of $e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k$.



The same applies for symmetric tensors. However, if $T$ is symmetric, then
$$
Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) =
Tleft(e_sigma(i_1), dots, e_sigma(i_k) right)
$$
for any permutation $sigma$. Thus, we may regroup the above sum as
$$
T = tilde T = sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n ;
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)sum_sigma in S_k Tleft(e_sigma(i_1), dots, e_sigma(i_k) right)
e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k) =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n ;
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)sum_sigma in S_k Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k) =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)
Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
underbracesum_sigma in S_k e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k)_textbasis element for Sym^k(V)
$$
Thus, we have expressed $T$ as a linear combination of the desired basis elements.




$alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)$ counts the number of times any element $(sigma(i_1),dots,sigma(i_n))$ appears in the summation over $sigma in S_n$. As the comment below points out, we have
$$
alpha(i_1,dots,i_k) = m_1! cdots m_n!
$$
where $m_j$ is the multiplicity of $j in 1,dots,n$ in the tuple $(i_1,dots,i_k)$.






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  • I'm really sorry... I'm even ashamed... Thank you for your answer... The last part... regrouping... which sum are u regrouping? the sum for $That$?
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:23










  • Yes, it's the sum for $tilde T$ (which we showed is also just a sum for $T$)
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:23










  • Note: $S_k$ denotes the set of all permutations on $k$ elements
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:27










  • Omnom, $sum_sigmain S_k e^sigma(i_1)otimescdotsotimes e^sigma(i_k)$ will have each distinct summand occur with multiplicity $m_1!cdots m_n!$ where $m_j$ is how many $j$s appear in the multiset $i_1,cdots,i_k$, so this should be normalized.
    – arctic tern
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:36











  • @arctictern well spotted
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:37












up vote
2
down vote



accepted







up vote
2
down vote



accepted






I assume that $e_1,dots,e_n$ is a basis of $V$ and that $e^1,dots,e^n$ the associated dual basis of $V^*$.



First, let's consider the case of arbitrary (not necessarily symmetric) tensors. We note that, by linearity,
$$
T(v^(1), dots, v^(k)) =
Tleft( sum_i=1^n v^(1)_i e_i, dots, sum_i=1^n v^(k)_i e_i right) =
Tleft( sum_i_1=1^n v^(1)_i_1 e_i, dots, sum_i_k=1^n v^(k)_i_k e_i_k right) = \
sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n v^(1)_i_1 cdots v^(k)_i_k Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
$$
Now, define the tensor $tilde T$ by
$$
tilde T = sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k
$$
Prove that $tilde T(v^(1),dots,v^(k)) = T(v^(1),dots,v^(k))$ for any $v^(1),dots,v^(k)$. That is, $tilde T = T$. We've thus shown that any (not necessarily symmetric) $k$-tensor can be written as a linear combination of $e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k$.



The same applies for symmetric tensors. However, if $T$ is symmetric, then
$$
Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) =
Tleft(e_sigma(i_1), dots, e_sigma(i_k) right)
$$
for any permutation $sigma$. Thus, we may regroup the above sum as
$$
T = tilde T = sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n ;
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)sum_sigma in S_k Tleft(e_sigma(i_1), dots, e_sigma(i_k) right)
e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k) =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n ;
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)sum_sigma in S_k Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k) =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)
Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
underbracesum_sigma in S_k e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k)_textbasis element for Sym^k(V)
$$
Thus, we have expressed $T$ as a linear combination of the desired basis elements.




$alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)$ counts the number of times any element $(sigma(i_1),dots,sigma(i_n))$ appears in the summation over $sigma in S_n$. As the comment below points out, we have
$$
alpha(i_1,dots,i_k) = m_1! cdots m_n!
$$
where $m_j$ is the multiplicity of $j in 1,dots,n$ in the tuple $(i_1,dots,i_k)$.






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I assume that $e_1,dots,e_n$ is a basis of $V$ and that $e^1,dots,e^n$ the associated dual basis of $V^*$.



First, let's consider the case of arbitrary (not necessarily symmetric) tensors. We note that, by linearity,
$$
T(v^(1), dots, v^(k)) =
Tleft( sum_i=1^n v^(1)_i e_i, dots, sum_i=1^n v^(k)_i e_i right) =
Tleft( sum_i_1=1^n v^(1)_i_1 e_i, dots, sum_i_k=1^n v^(k)_i_k e_i_k right) = \
sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n v^(1)_i_1 cdots v^(k)_i_k Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
$$
Now, define the tensor $tilde T$ by
$$
tilde T = sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k
$$
Prove that $tilde T(v^(1),dots,v^(k)) = T(v^(1),dots,v^(k))$ for any $v^(1),dots,v^(k)$. That is, $tilde T = T$. We've thus shown that any (not necessarily symmetric) $k$-tensor can be written as a linear combination of $e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k$.



The same applies for symmetric tensors. However, if $T$ is symmetric, then
$$
Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) =
Tleft(e_sigma(i_1), dots, e_sigma(i_k) right)
$$
for any permutation $sigma$. Thus, we may regroup the above sum as
$$
T = tilde T = sum_i_1=1^n cdots sum_i_k=1^n Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right) e^i_1 otimes cdots otimes e^i_k =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n ;
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)sum_sigma in S_k Tleft(e_sigma(i_1), dots, e_sigma(i_k) right)
e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k) =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n ;
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)sum_sigma in S_k Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k) =
\
sum_1 leq i_1 leq cdots leq i_k leq n
frac 1alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)
Tleft(e_i_1, dots, e_i_k right)
underbracesum_sigma in S_k e^sigma(i_1) otimes cdots otimes e^sigma(i_k)_textbasis element for Sym^k(V)
$$
Thus, we have expressed $T$ as a linear combination of the desired basis elements.




$alpha(i_1,dots,i_k)$ counts the number of times any element $(sigma(i_1),dots,sigma(i_n))$ appears in the summation over $sigma in S_n$. As the comment below points out, we have
$$
alpha(i_1,dots,i_k) = m_1! cdots m_n!
$$
where $m_j$ is the multiplicity of $j in 1,dots,n$ in the tuple $(i_1,dots,i_k)$.







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  • I'm really sorry... I'm even ashamed... Thank you for your answer... The last part... regrouping... which sum are u regrouping? the sum for $That$?
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:23










  • Yes, it's the sum for $tilde T$ (which we showed is also just a sum for $T$)
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:23










  • Note: $S_k$ denotes the set of all permutations on $k$ elements
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:27










  • Omnom, $sum_sigmain S_k e^sigma(i_1)otimescdotsotimes e^sigma(i_k)$ will have each distinct summand occur with multiplicity $m_1!cdots m_n!$ where $m_j$ is how many $j$s appear in the multiset $i_1,cdots,i_k$, so this should be normalized.
    – arctic tern
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:36











  • @arctictern well spotted
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:37
















  • I'm really sorry... I'm even ashamed... Thank you for your answer... The last part... regrouping... which sum are u regrouping? the sum for $That$?
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:23










  • Yes, it's the sum for $tilde T$ (which we showed is also just a sum for $T$)
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:23










  • Note: $S_k$ denotes the set of all permutations on $k$ elements
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:27










  • Omnom, $sum_sigmain S_k e^sigma(i_1)otimescdotsotimes e^sigma(i_k)$ will have each distinct summand occur with multiplicity $m_1!cdots m_n!$ where $m_j$ is how many $j$s appear in the multiset $i_1,cdots,i_k$, so this should be normalized.
    – arctic tern
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:36











  • @arctictern well spotted
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:37















I'm really sorry... I'm even ashamed... Thank you for your answer... The last part... regrouping... which sum are u regrouping? the sum for $That$?
– Arman Malekzadeh
Mar 11 '17 at 18:23




I'm really sorry... I'm even ashamed... Thank you for your answer... The last part... regrouping... which sum are u regrouping? the sum for $That$?
– Arman Malekzadeh
Mar 11 '17 at 18:23












Yes, it's the sum for $tilde T$ (which we showed is also just a sum for $T$)
– Omnomnomnom
Mar 11 '17 at 18:23




Yes, it's the sum for $tilde T$ (which we showed is also just a sum for $T$)
– Omnomnomnom
Mar 11 '17 at 18:23












Note: $S_k$ denotes the set of all permutations on $k$ elements
– Omnomnomnom
Mar 11 '17 at 18:27




Note: $S_k$ denotes the set of all permutations on $k$ elements
– Omnomnomnom
Mar 11 '17 at 18:27












Omnom, $sum_sigmain S_k e^sigma(i_1)otimescdotsotimes e^sigma(i_k)$ will have each distinct summand occur with multiplicity $m_1!cdots m_n!$ where $m_j$ is how many $j$s appear in the multiset $i_1,cdots,i_k$, so this should be normalized.
– arctic tern
Mar 11 '17 at 18:36





Omnom, $sum_sigmain S_k e^sigma(i_1)otimescdotsotimes e^sigma(i_k)$ will have each distinct summand occur with multiplicity $m_1!cdots m_n!$ where $m_j$ is how many $j$s appear in the multiset $i_1,cdots,i_k$, so this should be normalized.
– arctic tern
Mar 11 '17 at 18:36













@arctictern well spotted
– Omnomnomnom
Mar 11 '17 at 18:37




@arctictern well spotted
– Omnomnomnom
Mar 11 '17 at 18:37










up vote
2
down vote













Let's consider $mathbbR^2$ with standard basis $e_1,e_2$.



If $T$ is a symmetric tensor $T:mathbbR^2timesmathbbR^2timesmathbbR^2tomathbbR$, then we can group basis vectors $e^i_1otimes e^i_2otimes e^i_3$ of the tensor power $(mathbbR^2)^otimes 3$ according to whether or not $T$ must send them to the same value:



$$ beginarrayrrrr e_1otimes e_1otimes e_1 \ hline e_1otimes e_1otimes e_2 & e_1otimes e_2otimes e_1 & e_2otimes e_1otimes e_1 \ hline e_1otimes e_2otimes e_2 & e_2otimes e_1otimes e_2 & e_2otimes e_2otimes e_1 \ hline e_2otimes e_2otimes e_2 endarray $$



In other words, the values $T$ takes on any tensor can be determined as long as we know what values $T$ takes on



  1. $e_1otimes e_1otimes e_1$,

  2. $e_1otimes e_1otimes e_2$,

  3. $e_1otimes e_2otimes e_2$,

  4. $e_2otimes e_2otimes e_2$.

These are precisely the basis elements $e_i_1otimes e_i_2otimes e_i_3$ with $i_1le i_2le i_3$.



Conversely, given any four values $a,b,c,d$ we can arrange for $T$ to take these values on the above basis vectors by writing out



$$ beginarraylll T & = & a(e^1otimes e^1otimes e^1) \ &+ & b(e^1otimes e^1otimes e^2+e^1otimes e^2otimes e^1+e^2otimes e^1otimes e^1) \ & + & c(e^1otimes e^2otimes e^2+e^2otimes e^1otimes e^2+e^2otimes e^2otimes e^1) \ & + & d(e^2otimes e^2otimes e^2), endarray $$



Generalize.






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  • I truely appreciate your help
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:33










  • @ArmanMalekzade this is precisely the idea that my answer applies in the general case
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:46










  • @Omnomnomnom your answer and arctic tern's, helped me fully understand whats going on!
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:48














up vote
2
down vote













Let's consider $mathbbR^2$ with standard basis $e_1,e_2$.



If $T$ is a symmetric tensor $T:mathbbR^2timesmathbbR^2timesmathbbR^2tomathbbR$, then we can group basis vectors $e^i_1otimes e^i_2otimes e^i_3$ of the tensor power $(mathbbR^2)^otimes 3$ according to whether or not $T$ must send them to the same value:



$$ beginarrayrrrr e_1otimes e_1otimes e_1 \ hline e_1otimes e_1otimes e_2 & e_1otimes e_2otimes e_1 & e_2otimes e_1otimes e_1 \ hline e_1otimes e_2otimes e_2 & e_2otimes e_1otimes e_2 & e_2otimes e_2otimes e_1 \ hline e_2otimes e_2otimes e_2 endarray $$



In other words, the values $T$ takes on any tensor can be determined as long as we know what values $T$ takes on



  1. $e_1otimes e_1otimes e_1$,

  2. $e_1otimes e_1otimes e_2$,

  3. $e_1otimes e_2otimes e_2$,

  4. $e_2otimes e_2otimes e_2$.

These are precisely the basis elements $e_i_1otimes e_i_2otimes e_i_3$ with $i_1le i_2le i_3$.



Conversely, given any four values $a,b,c,d$ we can arrange for $T$ to take these values on the above basis vectors by writing out



$$ beginarraylll T & = & a(e^1otimes e^1otimes e^1) \ &+ & b(e^1otimes e^1otimes e^2+e^1otimes e^2otimes e^1+e^2otimes e^1otimes e^1) \ & + & c(e^1otimes e^2otimes e^2+e^2otimes e^1otimes e^2+e^2otimes e^2otimes e^1) \ & + & d(e^2otimes e^2otimes e^2), endarray $$



Generalize.






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  • I truely appreciate your help
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:33










  • @ArmanMalekzade this is precisely the idea that my answer applies in the general case
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:46










  • @Omnomnomnom your answer and arctic tern's, helped me fully understand whats going on!
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:48












up vote
2
down vote










up vote
2
down vote









Let's consider $mathbbR^2$ with standard basis $e_1,e_2$.



If $T$ is a symmetric tensor $T:mathbbR^2timesmathbbR^2timesmathbbR^2tomathbbR$, then we can group basis vectors $e^i_1otimes e^i_2otimes e^i_3$ of the tensor power $(mathbbR^2)^otimes 3$ according to whether or not $T$ must send them to the same value:



$$ beginarrayrrrr e_1otimes e_1otimes e_1 \ hline e_1otimes e_1otimes e_2 & e_1otimes e_2otimes e_1 & e_2otimes e_1otimes e_1 \ hline e_1otimes e_2otimes e_2 & e_2otimes e_1otimes e_2 & e_2otimes e_2otimes e_1 \ hline e_2otimes e_2otimes e_2 endarray $$



In other words, the values $T$ takes on any tensor can be determined as long as we know what values $T$ takes on



  1. $e_1otimes e_1otimes e_1$,

  2. $e_1otimes e_1otimes e_2$,

  3. $e_1otimes e_2otimes e_2$,

  4. $e_2otimes e_2otimes e_2$.

These are precisely the basis elements $e_i_1otimes e_i_2otimes e_i_3$ with $i_1le i_2le i_3$.



Conversely, given any four values $a,b,c,d$ we can arrange for $T$ to take these values on the above basis vectors by writing out



$$ beginarraylll T & = & a(e^1otimes e^1otimes e^1) \ &+ & b(e^1otimes e^1otimes e^2+e^1otimes e^2otimes e^1+e^2otimes e^1otimes e^1) \ & + & c(e^1otimes e^2otimes e^2+e^2otimes e^1otimes e^2+e^2otimes e^2otimes e^1) \ & + & d(e^2otimes e^2otimes e^2), endarray $$



Generalize.






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Let's consider $mathbbR^2$ with standard basis $e_1,e_2$.



If $T$ is a symmetric tensor $T:mathbbR^2timesmathbbR^2timesmathbbR^2tomathbbR$, then we can group basis vectors $e^i_1otimes e^i_2otimes e^i_3$ of the tensor power $(mathbbR^2)^otimes 3$ according to whether or not $T$ must send them to the same value:



$$ beginarrayrrrr e_1otimes e_1otimes e_1 \ hline e_1otimes e_1otimes e_2 & e_1otimes e_2otimes e_1 & e_2otimes e_1otimes e_1 \ hline e_1otimes e_2otimes e_2 & e_2otimes e_1otimes e_2 & e_2otimes e_2otimes e_1 \ hline e_2otimes e_2otimes e_2 endarray $$



In other words, the values $T$ takes on any tensor can be determined as long as we know what values $T$ takes on



  1. $e_1otimes e_1otimes e_1$,

  2. $e_1otimes e_1otimes e_2$,

  3. $e_1otimes e_2otimes e_2$,

  4. $e_2otimes e_2otimes e_2$.

These are precisely the basis elements $e_i_1otimes e_i_2otimes e_i_3$ with $i_1le i_2le i_3$.



Conversely, given any four values $a,b,c,d$ we can arrange for $T$ to take these values on the above basis vectors by writing out



$$ beginarraylll T & = & a(e^1otimes e^1otimes e^1) \ &+ & b(e^1otimes e^1otimes e^2+e^1otimes e^2otimes e^1+e^2otimes e^1otimes e^1) \ & + & c(e^1otimes e^2otimes e^2+e^2otimes e^1otimes e^2+e^2otimes e^2otimes e^1) \ & + & d(e^2otimes e^2otimes e^2), endarray $$



Generalize.







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  • I truely appreciate your help
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:33










  • @ArmanMalekzade this is precisely the idea that my answer applies in the general case
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:46










  • @Omnomnomnom your answer and arctic tern's, helped me fully understand whats going on!
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:48
















  • I truely appreciate your help
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:33










  • @ArmanMalekzade this is precisely the idea that my answer applies in the general case
    – Omnomnomnom
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:46










  • @Omnomnomnom your answer and arctic tern's, helped me fully understand whats going on!
    – Arman Malekzadeh
    Mar 11 '17 at 18:48















I truely appreciate your help
– Arman Malekzadeh
Mar 11 '17 at 18:33




I truely appreciate your help
– Arman Malekzadeh
Mar 11 '17 at 18:33












@ArmanMalekzade this is precisely the idea that my answer applies in the general case
– Omnomnomnom
Mar 11 '17 at 18:46




@ArmanMalekzade this is precisely the idea that my answer applies in the general case
– Omnomnomnom
Mar 11 '17 at 18:46












@Omnomnomnom your answer and arctic tern's, helped me fully understand whats going on!
– Arman Malekzadeh
Mar 11 '17 at 18:48




@Omnomnomnom your answer and arctic tern's, helped me fully understand whats going on!
– Arman Malekzadeh
Mar 11 '17 at 18:48

















 

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