can we write this mirrored function as a function of x too?
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Suppose I have the function
$$f(x) = frac203frac1x - frac23$$
and I would like to mirror it at the line
$$l(x) = -frac53x+frac233$$
to get a function $g(x)$. Is it possible to get a closed form solution of such a $g$ in terms of $x$? As per this question I know how the mirror looks like. Now can I write this is as a closed form solution?
The picture I have in mind is the following:
where I have the lower part and the linear function. Now I would like to get the upper one.
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Suppose I have the function
$$f(x) = frac203frac1x - frac23$$
and I would like to mirror it at the line
$$l(x) = -frac53x+frac233$$
to get a function $g(x)$. Is it possible to get a closed form solution of such a $g$ in terms of $x$? As per this question I know how the mirror looks like. Now can I write this is as a closed form solution?
The picture I have in mind is the following:
where I have the lower part and the linear function. Now I would like to get the upper one.
linear-algebra
It won't be a function of x. The original is both lobes of a hyperbola, where one asymptote is vertical. It is only in this situation, where the asymptote is vertical, where it is possible to describe both lobes of a hyperbola as a single function. Reflecting the function also reflects the asymptotes, and neither end up vertical afterwards, so you're stuck.
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Sep 9 at 11:37
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Suppose I have the function
$$f(x) = frac203frac1x - frac23$$
and I would like to mirror it at the line
$$l(x) = -frac53x+frac233$$
to get a function $g(x)$. Is it possible to get a closed form solution of such a $g$ in terms of $x$? As per this question I know how the mirror looks like. Now can I write this is as a closed form solution?
The picture I have in mind is the following:
where I have the lower part and the linear function. Now I would like to get the upper one.
linear-algebra
Suppose I have the function
$$f(x) = frac203frac1x - frac23$$
and I would like to mirror it at the line
$$l(x) = -frac53x+frac233$$
to get a function $g(x)$. Is it possible to get a closed form solution of such a $g$ in terms of $x$? As per this question I know how the mirror looks like. Now can I write this is as a closed form solution?
The picture I have in mind is the following:
where I have the lower part and the linear function. Now I would like to get the upper one.
linear-algebra
linear-algebra
edited Sep 9 at 11:49
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It won't be a function of x. The original is both lobes of a hyperbola, where one asymptote is vertical. It is only in this situation, where the asymptote is vertical, where it is possible to describe both lobes of a hyperbola as a single function. Reflecting the function also reflects the asymptotes, and neither end up vertical afterwards, so you're stuck.
â Dan Uznanski
Sep 9 at 11:37
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It won't be a function of x. The original is both lobes of a hyperbola, where one asymptote is vertical. It is only in this situation, where the asymptote is vertical, where it is possible to describe both lobes of a hyperbola as a single function. Reflecting the function also reflects the asymptotes, and neither end up vertical afterwards, so you're stuck.
â Dan Uznanski
Sep 9 at 11:37
It won't be a function of x. The original is both lobes of a hyperbola, where one asymptote is vertical. It is only in this situation, where the asymptote is vertical, where it is possible to describe both lobes of a hyperbola as a single function. Reflecting the function also reflects the asymptotes, and neither end up vertical afterwards, so you're stuck.
â Dan Uznanski
Sep 9 at 11:37
It won't be a function of x. The original is both lobes of a hyperbola, where one asymptote is vertical. It is only in this situation, where the asymptote is vertical, where it is possible to describe both lobes of a hyperbola as a single function. Reflecting the function also reflects the asymptotes, and neither end up vertical afterwards, so you're stuck.
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Sep 9 at 11:37
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Given a line $ax+by=c$, the reflection transformation is
$$beginalign
x &Rightarrow frac(b^2-a^2)x - 2aby + 2aca^2+b^2\
y &Rightarrow frac-2abx + (a^2-b^2)y + 2bca^2+b^2
endalign$$
We have $5x+3y=23$, so the reflection transformation here is
$$beginalign
x &Rightarrow frac-8x-15y+11517 \
y &Rightarrow frac-15x+8y+6917
endalign
$$
Before we apply this we should probably switch the hyperbola to standard form, by multiplying the whole thing by $3x$ and rearranging:
$$3xy + 2x = 20$$
We apply the transformation:
$$3frac-8x-15y+11517frac-15x+8y+6917 + 2frac-8x-15y+11517 = 20$$
And then simplify (multiply through by $17^2=289$, expand, combine):
$$360x^2+483xy-360y^2-7103x-855y=-21935$$
Then, we can find the "function" by solving for $y$, which we can do by grouping on $y$ exponents and then using the quadratic formula:
$$(-360)y^2 + (483x-855)y + (360x^2 -7103x + 21935) = 0$$
$$beginalign
y&=frac-(483x-855)pmsqrt(483x-855)^2-4(-360)(360x^2 -7103x + 21935)2(-360)\
&=frac161x-285pm17sqrt289x^2-4250x+12425240
endalign$$
This has two parts: notice the $pm$ in there, giving two valid $y$ values for most values of $x$.
The discriminant has roots $frac125pm40sqrt217$, which are the $x$ values of our branch points. As you can see in the graph below, even the small reflected part that would close the lens shape fails to be a single function.
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Given a line $ax+by=c$, the reflection transformation is
$$beginalign
x &Rightarrow frac(b^2-a^2)x - 2aby + 2aca^2+b^2\
y &Rightarrow frac-2abx + (a^2-b^2)y + 2bca^2+b^2
endalign$$
We have $5x+3y=23$, so the reflection transformation here is
$$beginalign
x &Rightarrow frac-8x-15y+11517 \
y &Rightarrow frac-15x+8y+6917
endalign
$$
Before we apply this we should probably switch the hyperbola to standard form, by multiplying the whole thing by $3x$ and rearranging:
$$3xy + 2x = 20$$
We apply the transformation:
$$3frac-8x-15y+11517frac-15x+8y+6917 + 2frac-8x-15y+11517 = 20$$
And then simplify (multiply through by $17^2=289$, expand, combine):
$$360x^2+483xy-360y^2-7103x-855y=-21935$$
Then, we can find the "function" by solving for $y$, which we can do by grouping on $y$ exponents and then using the quadratic formula:
$$(-360)y^2 + (483x-855)y + (360x^2 -7103x + 21935) = 0$$
$$beginalign
y&=frac-(483x-855)pmsqrt(483x-855)^2-4(-360)(360x^2 -7103x + 21935)2(-360)\
&=frac161x-285pm17sqrt289x^2-4250x+12425240
endalign$$
This has two parts: notice the $pm$ in there, giving two valid $y$ values for most values of $x$.
The discriminant has roots $frac125pm40sqrt217$, which are the $x$ values of our branch points. As you can see in the graph below, even the small reflected part that would close the lens shape fails to be a single function.
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Given a line $ax+by=c$, the reflection transformation is
$$beginalign
x &Rightarrow frac(b^2-a^2)x - 2aby + 2aca^2+b^2\
y &Rightarrow frac-2abx + (a^2-b^2)y + 2bca^2+b^2
endalign$$
We have $5x+3y=23$, so the reflection transformation here is
$$beginalign
x &Rightarrow frac-8x-15y+11517 \
y &Rightarrow frac-15x+8y+6917
endalign
$$
Before we apply this we should probably switch the hyperbola to standard form, by multiplying the whole thing by $3x$ and rearranging:
$$3xy + 2x = 20$$
We apply the transformation:
$$3frac-8x-15y+11517frac-15x+8y+6917 + 2frac-8x-15y+11517 = 20$$
And then simplify (multiply through by $17^2=289$, expand, combine):
$$360x^2+483xy-360y^2-7103x-855y=-21935$$
Then, we can find the "function" by solving for $y$, which we can do by grouping on $y$ exponents and then using the quadratic formula:
$$(-360)y^2 + (483x-855)y + (360x^2 -7103x + 21935) = 0$$
$$beginalign
y&=frac-(483x-855)pmsqrt(483x-855)^2-4(-360)(360x^2 -7103x + 21935)2(-360)\
&=frac161x-285pm17sqrt289x^2-4250x+12425240
endalign$$
This has two parts: notice the $pm$ in there, giving two valid $y$ values for most values of $x$.
The discriminant has roots $frac125pm40sqrt217$, which are the $x$ values of our branch points. As you can see in the graph below, even the small reflected part that would close the lens shape fails to be a single function.
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Given a line $ax+by=c$, the reflection transformation is
$$beginalign
x &Rightarrow frac(b^2-a^2)x - 2aby + 2aca^2+b^2\
y &Rightarrow frac-2abx + (a^2-b^2)y + 2bca^2+b^2
endalign$$
We have $5x+3y=23$, so the reflection transformation here is
$$beginalign
x &Rightarrow frac-8x-15y+11517 \
y &Rightarrow frac-15x+8y+6917
endalign
$$
Before we apply this we should probably switch the hyperbola to standard form, by multiplying the whole thing by $3x$ and rearranging:
$$3xy + 2x = 20$$
We apply the transformation:
$$3frac-8x-15y+11517frac-15x+8y+6917 + 2frac-8x-15y+11517 = 20$$
And then simplify (multiply through by $17^2=289$, expand, combine):
$$360x^2+483xy-360y^2-7103x-855y=-21935$$
Then, we can find the "function" by solving for $y$, which we can do by grouping on $y$ exponents and then using the quadratic formula:
$$(-360)y^2 + (483x-855)y + (360x^2 -7103x + 21935) = 0$$
$$beginalign
y&=frac-(483x-855)pmsqrt(483x-855)^2-4(-360)(360x^2 -7103x + 21935)2(-360)\
&=frac161x-285pm17sqrt289x^2-4250x+12425240
endalign$$
This has two parts: notice the $pm$ in there, giving two valid $y$ values for most values of $x$.
The discriminant has roots $frac125pm40sqrt217$, which are the $x$ values of our branch points. As you can see in the graph below, even the small reflected part that would close the lens shape fails to be a single function.
Given a line $ax+by=c$, the reflection transformation is
$$beginalign
x &Rightarrow frac(b^2-a^2)x - 2aby + 2aca^2+b^2\
y &Rightarrow frac-2abx + (a^2-b^2)y + 2bca^2+b^2
endalign$$
We have $5x+3y=23$, so the reflection transformation here is
$$beginalign
x &Rightarrow frac-8x-15y+11517 \
y &Rightarrow frac-15x+8y+6917
endalign
$$
Before we apply this we should probably switch the hyperbola to standard form, by multiplying the whole thing by $3x$ and rearranging:
$$3xy + 2x = 20$$
We apply the transformation:
$$3frac-8x-15y+11517frac-15x+8y+6917 + 2frac-8x-15y+11517 = 20$$
And then simplify (multiply through by $17^2=289$, expand, combine):
$$360x^2+483xy-360y^2-7103x-855y=-21935$$
Then, we can find the "function" by solving for $y$, which we can do by grouping on $y$ exponents and then using the quadratic formula:
$$(-360)y^2 + (483x-855)y + (360x^2 -7103x + 21935) = 0$$
$$beginalign
y&=frac-(483x-855)pmsqrt(483x-855)^2-4(-360)(360x^2 -7103x + 21935)2(-360)\
&=frac161x-285pm17sqrt289x^2-4250x+12425240
endalign$$
This has two parts: notice the $pm$ in there, giving two valid $y$ values for most values of $x$.
The discriminant has roots $frac125pm40sqrt217$, which are the $x$ values of our branch points. As you can see in the graph below, even the small reflected part that would close the lens shape fails to be a single function.
edited Sep 10 at 17:46
answered Sep 10 at 2:46
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It won't be a function of x. The original is both lobes of a hyperbola, where one asymptote is vertical. It is only in this situation, where the asymptote is vertical, where it is possible to describe both lobes of a hyperbola as a single function. Reflecting the function also reflects the asymptotes, and neither end up vertical afterwards, so you're stuck.
â Dan Uznanski
Sep 9 at 11:37