can we write this mirrored function as a function of x too?

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Suppose I have the function



$$f(x) = frac203frac1x - frac23$$



and I would like to mirror it at the line



$$l(x) = -frac53x+frac233$$



to get a function $g(x)$. Is it possible to get a closed form solution of such a $g$ in terms of $x$? As per this question I know how the mirror looks like. Now can I write this is as a closed form solution?



The picture I have in mind is the following:enter image description here



where I have the lower part and the linear function. Now I would like to get the upper one.










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  • It won't be a function of x. The original is both lobes of a hyperbola, where one asymptote is vertical. It is only in this situation, where the asymptote is vertical, where it is possible to describe both lobes of a hyperbola as a single function. Reflecting the function also reflects the asymptotes, and neither end up vertical afterwards, so you're stuck.
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Suppose I have the function



$$f(x) = frac203frac1x - frac23$$



and I would like to mirror it at the line



$$l(x) = -frac53x+frac233$$



to get a function $g(x)$. Is it possible to get a closed form solution of such a $g$ in terms of $x$? As per this question I know how the mirror looks like. Now can I write this is as a closed form solution?



The picture I have in mind is the following:enter image description here



where I have the lower part and the linear function. Now I would like to get the upper one.










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  • It won't be a function of x. The original is both lobes of a hyperbola, where one asymptote is vertical. It is only in this situation, where the asymptote is vertical, where it is possible to describe both lobes of a hyperbola as a single function. Reflecting the function also reflects the asymptotes, and neither end up vertical afterwards, so you're stuck.
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Suppose I have the function



$$f(x) = frac203frac1x - frac23$$



and I would like to mirror it at the line



$$l(x) = -frac53x+frac233$$



to get a function $g(x)$. Is it possible to get a closed form solution of such a $g$ in terms of $x$? As per this question I know how the mirror looks like. Now can I write this is as a closed form solution?



The picture I have in mind is the following:enter image description here



where I have the lower part and the linear function. Now I would like to get the upper one.










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Suppose I have the function



$$f(x) = frac203frac1x - frac23$$



and I would like to mirror it at the line



$$l(x) = -frac53x+frac233$$



to get a function $g(x)$. Is it possible to get a closed form solution of such a $g$ in terms of $x$? As per this question I know how the mirror looks like. Now can I write this is as a closed form solution?



The picture I have in mind is the following:enter image description here



where I have the lower part and the linear function. Now I would like to get the upper one.







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  • It won't be a function of x. The original is both lobes of a hyperbola, where one asymptote is vertical. It is only in this situation, where the asymptote is vertical, where it is possible to describe both lobes of a hyperbola as a single function. Reflecting the function also reflects the asymptotes, and neither end up vertical afterwards, so you're stuck.
    – Dan Uznanski
    Sep 9 at 11:37
















  • It won't be a function of x. The original is both lobes of a hyperbola, where one asymptote is vertical. It is only in this situation, where the asymptote is vertical, where it is possible to describe both lobes of a hyperbola as a single function. Reflecting the function also reflects the asymptotes, and neither end up vertical afterwards, so you're stuck.
    – Dan Uznanski
    Sep 9 at 11:37















It won't be a function of x. The original is both lobes of a hyperbola, where one asymptote is vertical. It is only in this situation, where the asymptote is vertical, where it is possible to describe both lobes of a hyperbola as a single function. Reflecting the function also reflects the asymptotes, and neither end up vertical afterwards, so you're stuck.
– Dan Uznanski
Sep 9 at 11:37




It won't be a function of x. The original is both lobes of a hyperbola, where one asymptote is vertical. It is only in this situation, where the asymptote is vertical, where it is possible to describe both lobes of a hyperbola as a single function. Reflecting the function also reflects the asymptotes, and neither end up vertical afterwards, so you're stuck.
– Dan Uznanski
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Given a line $ax+by=c$, the reflection transformation is



$$beginalign
x &Rightarrow frac(b^2-a^2)x - 2aby + 2aca^2+b^2\
y &Rightarrow frac-2abx + (a^2-b^2)y + 2bca^2+b^2
endalign$$



We have $5x+3y=23$, so the reflection transformation here is



$$beginalign
x &Rightarrow frac-8x-15y+11517 \
y &Rightarrow frac-15x+8y+6917
endalign
$$



Before we apply this we should probably switch the hyperbola to standard form, by multiplying the whole thing by $3x$ and rearranging:



$$3xy + 2x = 20$$



We apply the transformation:



$$3frac-8x-15y+11517frac-15x+8y+6917 + 2frac-8x-15y+11517 = 20$$



And then simplify (multiply through by $17^2=289$, expand, combine):



$$360x^2+483xy-360y^2-7103x-855y=-21935$$



Then, we can find the "function" by solving for $y$, which we can do by grouping on $y$ exponents and then using the quadratic formula:



$$(-360)y^2 + (483x-855)y + (360x^2 -7103x + 21935) = 0$$



$$beginalign
y&=frac-(483x-855)pmsqrt(483x-855)^2-4(-360)(360x^2 -7103x + 21935)2(-360)\
&=frac161x-285pm17sqrt289x^2-4250x+12425240
endalign$$



This has two parts: notice the $pm$ in there, giving two valid $y$ values for most values of $x$.



The discriminant has roots $frac125pm40sqrt217$, which are the $x$ values of our branch points. As you can see in the graph below, even the small reflected part that would close the lens shape fails to be a single function.



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    Given a line $ax+by=c$, the reflection transformation is



    $$beginalign
    x &Rightarrow frac(b^2-a^2)x - 2aby + 2aca^2+b^2\
    y &Rightarrow frac-2abx + (a^2-b^2)y + 2bca^2+b^2
    endalign$$



    We have $5x+3y=23$, so the reflection transformation here is



    $$beginalign
    x &Rightarrow frac-8x-15y+11517 \
    y &Rightarrow frac-15x+8y+6917
    endalign
    $$



    Before we apply this we should probably switch the hyperbola to standard form, by multiplying the whole thing by $3x$ and rearranging:



    $$3xy + 2x = 20$$



    We apply the transformation:



    $$3frac-8x-15y+11517frac-15x+8y+6917 + 2frac-8x-15y+11517 = 20$$



    And then simplify (multiply through by $17^2=289$, expand, combine):



    $$360x^2+483xy-360y^2-7103x-855y=-21935$$



    Then, we can find the "function" by solving for $y$, which we can do by grouping on $y$ exponents and then using the quadratic formula:



    $$(-360)y^2 + (483x-855)y + (360x^2 -7103x + 21935) = 0$$



    $$beginalign
    y&=frac-(483x-855)pmsqrt(483x-855)^2-4(-360)(360x^2 -7103x + 21935)2(-360)\
    &=frac161x-285pm17sqrt289x^2-4250x+12425240
    endalign$$



    This has two parts: notice the $pm$ in there, giving two valid $y$ values for most values of $x$.



    The discriminant has roots $frac125pm40sqrt217$, which are the $x$ values of our branch points. As you can see in the graph below, even the small reflected part that would close the lens shape fails to be a single function.



    enter image description here






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      Given a line $ax+by=c$, the reflection transformation is



      $$beginalign
      x &Rightarrow frac(b^2-a^2)x - 2aby + 2aca^2+b^2\
      y &Rightarrow frac-2abx + (a^2-b^2)y + 2bca^2+b^2
      endalign$$



      We have $5x+3y=23$, so the reflection transformation here is



      $$beginalign
      x &Rightarrow frac-8x-15y+11517 \
      y &Rightarrow frac-15x+8y+6917
      endalign
      $$



      Before we apply this we should probably switch the hyperbola to standard form, by multiplying the whole thing by $3x$ and rearranging:



      $$3xy + 2x = 20$$



      We apply the transformation:



      $$3frac-8x-15y+11517frac-15x+8y+6917 + 2frac-8x-15y+11517 = 20$$



      And then simplify (multiply through by $17^2=289$, expand, combine):



      $$360x^2+483xy-360y^2-7103x-855y=-21935$$



      Then, we can find the "function" by solving for $y$, which we can do by grouping on $y$ exponents and then using the quadratic formula:



      $$(-360)y^2 + (483x-855)y + (360x^2 -7103x + 21935) = 0$$



      $$beginalign
      y&=frac-(483x-855)pmsqrt(483x-855)^2-4(-360)(360x^2 -7103x + 21935)2(-360)\
      &=frac161x-285pm17sqrt289x^2-4250x+12425240
      endalign$$



      This has two parts: notice the $pm$ in there, giving two valid $y$ values for most values of $x$.



      The discriminant has roots $frac125pm40sqrt217$, which are the $x$ values of our branch points. As you can see in the graph below, even the small reflected part that would close the lens shape fails to be a single function.



      enter image description here






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        Given a line $ax+by=c$, the reflection transformation is



        $$beginalign
        x &Rightarrow frac(b^2-a^2)x - 2aby + 2aca^2+b^2\
        y &Rightarrow frac-2abx + (a^2-b^2)y + 2bca^2+b^2
        endalign$$



        We have $5x+3y=23$, so the reflection transformation here is



        $$beginalign
        x &Rightarrow frac-8x-15y+11517 \
        y &Rightarrow frac-15x+8y+6917
        endalign
        $$



        Before we apply this we should probably switch the hyperbola to standard form, by multiplying the whole thing by $3x$ and rearranging:



        $$3xy + 2x = 20$$



        We apply the transformation:



        $$3frac-8x-15y+11517frac-15x+8y+6917 + 2frac-8x-15y+11517 = 20$$



        And then simplify (multiply through by $17^2=289$, expand, combine):



        $$360x^2+483xy-360y^2-7103x-855y=-21935$$



        Then, we can find the "function" by solving for $y$, which we can do by grouping on $y$ exponents and then using the quadratic formula:



        $$(-360)y^2 + (483x-855)y + (360x^2 -7103x + 21935) = 0$$



        $$beginalign
        y&=frac-(483x-855)pmsqrt(483x-855)^2-4(-360)(360x^2 -7103x + 21935)2(-360)\
        &=frac161x-285pm17sqrt289x^2-4250x+12425240
        endalign$$



        This has two parts: notice the $pm$ in there, giving two valid $y$ values for most values of $x$.



        The discriminant has roots $frac125pm40sqrt217$, which are the $x$ values of our branch points. As you can see in the graph below, even the small reflected part that would close the lens shape fails to be a single function.



        enter image description here






        share|cite|improve this answer














        Given a line $ax+by=c$, the reflection transformation is



        $$beginalign
        x &Rightarrow frac(b^2-a^2)x - 2aby + 2aca^2+b^2\
        y &Rightarrow frac-2abx + (a^2-b^2)y + 2bca^2+b^2
        endalign$$



        We have $5x+3y=23$, so the reflection transformation here is



        $$beginalign
        x &Rightarrow frac-8x-15y+11517 \
        y &Rightarrow frac-15x+8y+6917
        endalign
        $$



        Before we apply this we should probably switch the hyperbola to standard form, by multiplying the whole thing by $3x$ and rearranging:



        $$3xy + 2x = 20$$



        We apply the transformation:



        $$3frac-8x-15y+11517frac-15x+8y+6917 + 2frac-8x-15y+11517 = 20$$



        And then simplify (multiply through by $17^2=289$, expand, combine):



        $$360x^2+483xy-360y^2-7103x-855y=-21935$$



        Then, we can find the "function" by solving for $y$, which we can do by grouping on $y$ exponents and then using the quadratic formula:



        $$(-360)y^2 + (483x-855)y + (360x^2 -7103x + 21935) = 0$$



        $$beginalign
        y&=frac-(483x-855)pmsqrt(483x-855)^2-4(-360)(360x^2 -7103x + 21935)2(-360)\
        &=frac161x-285pm17sqrt289x^2-4250x+12425240
        endalign$$



        This has two parts: notice the $pm$ in there, giving two valid $y$ values for most values of $x$.



        The discriminant has roots $frac125pm40sqrt217$, which are the $x$ values of our branch points. As you can see in the graph below, even the small reflected part that would close the lens shape fails to be a single function.



        enter image description here







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