Prove that $2^x cdot 3^y - 5^z cdot 7^w = 1$ has no solutions

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Prove that $$2^x cdot 3^y - 5^z cdot 7^w = 1$$ has no solutions in $mathbbZ^+$, if $yge 3$.







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  • Størmer's theorem says that there are a finite number of solutions, and provides a method to construct all of them. Have you tried that?
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  • Actually I have solved it for y=0, 1, and 2. There wasn't any solution (x, y, z, w) with y>2, so I want to show that if y>=3, no solutions exist.
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  • May you post yor solution for those cases?
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  • Let finish first the final case y>2.
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Prove that $$2^x cdot 3^y - 5^z cdot 7^w = 1$$ has no solutions in $mathbbZ^+$, if $yge 3$.







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  • Størmer's theorem says that there are a finite number of solutions, and provides a method to construct all of them. Have you tried that?
    – Ryan
    Mar 15 '14 at 18:24










  • Actually I have solved it for y=0, 1, and 2. There wasn't any solution (x, y, z, w) with y>2, so I want to show that if y>=3, no solutions exist.
    – L.Fetahu
    Mar 15 '14 at 18:55










  • May you post yor solution for those cases?
    – chubakueno
    Mar 15 '14 at 19:06










  • Let finish first the final case y>2.
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    Mar 15 '14 at 19:16






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    Posting your solutiob wont hurt anybody, really. It shows your thoughts and effort. Also forcing everyone to reinvent the wheel is not the best thing to do.
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Prove that $$2^x cdot 3^y - 5^z cdot 7^w = 1$$ has no solutions in $mathbbZ^+$, if $yge 3$.







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Prove that $$2^x cdot 3^y - 5^z cdot 7^w = 1$$ has no solutions in $mathbbZ^+$, if $yge 3$.









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  • Størmer's theorem says that there are a finite number of solutions, and provides a method to construct all of them. Have you tried that?
    – Ryan
    Mar 15 '14 at 18:24










  • Actually I have solved it for y=0, 1, and 2. There wasn't any solution (x, y, z, w) with y>2, so I want to show that if y>=3, no solutions exist.
    – L.Fetahu
    Mar 15 '14 at 18:55










  • May you post yor solution for those cases?
    – chubakueno
    Mar 15 '14 at 19:06










  • Let finish first the final case y>2.
    – L.Fetahu
    Mar 15 '14 at 19:16






  • 4




    Posting your solutiob wont hurt anybody, really. It shows your thoughts and effort. Also forcing everyone to reinvent the wheel is not the best thing to do.
    – chubakueno
    Mar 15 '14 at 20:19
















  • Størmer's theorem says that there are a finite number of solutions, and provides a method to construct all of them. Have you tried that?
    – Ryan
    Mar 15 '14 at 18:24










  • Actually I have solved it for y=0, 1, and 2. There wasn't any solution (x, y, z, w) with y>2, so I want to show that if y>=3, no solutions exist.
    – L.Fetahu
    Mar 15 '14 at 18:55










  • May you post yor solution for those cases?
    – chubakueno
    Mar 15 '14 at 19:06










  • Let finish first the final case y>2.
    – L.Fetahu
    Mar 15 '14 at 19:16






  • 4




    Posting your solutiob wont hurt anybody, really. It shows your thoughts and effort. Also forcing everyone to reinvent the wheel is not the best thing to do.
    – chubakueno
    Mar 15 '14 at 20:19















Størmer's theorem says that there are a finite number of solutions, and provides a method to construct all of them. Have you tried that?
– Ryan
Mar 15 '14 at 18:24




Størmer's theorem says that there are a finite number of solutions, and provides a method to construct all of them. Have you tried that?
– Ryan
Mar 15 '14 at 18:24












Actually I have solved it for y=0, 1, and 2. There wasn't any solution (x, y, z, w) with y>2, so I want to show that if y>=3, no solutions exist.
– L.Fetahu
Mar 15 '14 at 18:55




Actually I have solved it for y=0, 1, and 2. There wasn't any solution (x, y, z, w) with y>2, so I want to show that if y>=3, no solutions exist.
– L.Fetahu
Mar 15 '14 at 18:55












May you post yor solution for those cases?
– chubakueno
Mar 15 '14 at 19:06




May you post yor solution for those cases?
– chubakueno
Mar 15 '14 at 19:06












Let finish first the final case y>2.
– L.Fetahu
Mar 15 '14 at 19:16




Let finish first the final case y>2.
– L.Fetahu
Mar 15 '14 at 19:16




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Posting your solutiob wont hurt anybody, really. It shows your thoughts and effort. Also forcing everyone to reinvent the wheel is not the best thing to do.
– chubakueno
Mar 15 '14 at 20:19




Posting your solutiob wont hurt anybody, really. It shows your thoughts and effort. Also forcing everyone to reinvent the wheel is not the best thing to do.
– chubakueno
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Consider any rational number $2^x 3^y 5^-z 7^-w$, where $x$, $y$, $z$, $w in mathbbZ^+$ . Størmer's theorem guarantees that there are a finite number of such fractions where the numerator and denominator are consecutive integers.



Here are all of the solutions:



$frac76, frac87, frac1514, frac2120, frac2827, frac3635, frac4948, frac5049, frac6463, frac126125, frac225224, frac24012400, frac43754374$



We only care about solutions where the numerator is $2^x 3^y$, and where the denominator is $5^z 7^w$ (for positive $x$, $y$, $z$, $w$). The only fraction which satisfies this condition is $frac3635$, or $(x, y, z, w) = (2, 2, 1, 1)$.






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    Here's a proof without Størmer's theorem, relying purely on (a lot of) modular arithmetic:



    Observation 1: $z$ is odd.



    Reducing mod $3$ shows that
    $$1=2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv-(-1)^zpmod3.$$



    Observation 2: $x=2$ and $yequiv2pmod12$.



    Reducing mod $8$ shows that if $xgeq3$ then
    $$1=2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv-5^zcdot7^wpmod8,$$
    which implies that $z$ is even, a contradiction, hence $xleq 2$. Reducing mod $5$ and $7$ shows that
    $$1equiv2^xcdot3^yequiv2^x-ypmod5
    qquadtext and qquad
    1equiv2^xcdot3^yequiv3^2x+ypmod7,$$
    which tells us that $x-yequiv0pmod4$ and $2x+yequiv0pmod6$. It follows that $y$ is even and hence also $x$ is even. Because $xleq2$ we find that $x=2$ and hence that $yequiv2pmod12$.



    Observation 3: $w=1$.



    Reducing mod $8$ shows that
    $$1equiv4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv4-5cdot7^wpmod8,$$
    because $y$ is even and $z$ is odd, and so $w$ is also odd. Reducing mod $49$ shows that if $wgeq2$ then
    $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv4cdot3^ypmod49,$$
    which implies that $yequiv32pmod42$. Then reducing mod $43$ shows that
    $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv9-5^zcdot7^wpmod43,$$
    and hence $5^zcdot7^wequiv8pmod43$. But $5$, $7$ and $8$ are all quadratic nonresidues mod $43$, and $z$ and $w$ are odd, a contradiction, hence $w=1$.



    Observation 4: $y=2$.



    Reducing mod $27$ shows that if $ygeq3$ then
    $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7equiv-5^zcdot7pmod27,$$
    which implies that $zequiv13pmod18$. Then $5^zequiv17pmod19$ so reducing mod $19$ then shows that
    $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7equiv4cdot3^y-17cdot7equiv4cdot3^y-5pmod19,$$
    and so $4cdot3^yequiv6pmod19$. But $4cdot3^yequiv5,16,17pmod19$ because $yequiv2pmod6$, a contradiction, hence $yleq2$. Because $y$ is even we find that $y=2$.



    Conclusion: The only solution to
    $$2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^w=1,$$
    in the positive integers is $(x,y,z,w)=(2,2,1,1)$.






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      Consider any rational number $2^x 3^y 5^-z 7^-w$, where $x$, $y$, $z$, $w in mathbbZ^+$ . Størmer's theorem guarantees that there are a finite number of such fractions where the numerator and denominator are consecutive integers.



      Here are all of the solutions:



      $frac76, frac87, frac1514, frac2120, frac2827, frac3635, frac4948, frac5049, frac6463, frac126125, frac225224, frac24012400, frac43754374$



      We only care about solutions where the numerator is $2^x 3^y$, and where the denominator is $5^z 7^w$ (for positive $x$, $y$, $z$, $w$). The only fraction which satisfies this condition is $frac3635$, or $(x, y, z, w) = (2, 2, 1, 1)$.






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        Consider any rational number $2^x 3^y 5^-z 7^-w$, where $x$, $y$, $z$, $w in mathbbZ^+$ . Størmer's theorem guarantees that there are a finite number of such fractions where the numerator and denominator are consecutive integers.



        Here are all of the solutions:



        $frac76, frac87, frac1514, frac2120, frac2827, frac3635, frac4948, frac5049, frac6463, frac126125, frac225224, frac24012400, frac43754374$



        We only care about solutions where the numerator is $2^x 3^y$, and where the denominator is $5^z 7^w$ (for positive $x$, $y$, $z$, $w$). The only fraction which satisfies this condition is $frac3635$, or $(x, y, z, w) = (2, 2, 1, 1)$.






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          Consider any rational number $2^x 3^y 5^-z 7^-w$, where $x$, $y$, $z$, $w in mathbbZ^+$ . Størmer's theorem guarantees that there are a finite number of such fractions where the numerator and denominator are consecutive integers.



          Here are all of the solutions:



          $frac76, frac87, frac1514, frac2120, frac2827, frac3635, frac4948, frac5049, frac6463, frac126125, frac225224, frac24012400, frac43754374$



          We only care about solutions where the numerator is $2^x 3^y$, and where the denominator is $5^z 7^w$ (for positive $x$, $y$, $z$, $w$). The only fraction which satisfies this condition is $frac3635$, or $(x, y, z, w) = (2, 2, 1, 1)$.






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          Consider any rational number $2^x 3^y 5^-z 7^-w$, where $x$, $y$, $z$, $w in mathbbZ^+$ . Størmer's theorem guarantees that there are a finite number of such fractions where the numerator and denominator are consecutive integers.



          Here are all of the solutions:



          $frac76, frac87, frac1514, frac2120, frac2827, frac3635, frac4948, frac5049, frac6463, frac126125, frac225224, frac24012400, frac43754374$



          We only care about solutions where the numerator is $2^x 3^y$, and where the denominator is $5^z 7^w$ (for positive $x$, $y$, $z$, $w$). The only fraction which satisfies this condition is $frac3635$, or $(x, y, z, w) = (2, 2, 1, 1)$.







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              Here's a proof without Størmer's theorem, relying purely on (a lot of) modular arithmetic:



              Observation 1: $z$ is odd.



              Reducing mod $3$ shows that
              $$1=2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv-(-1)^zpmod3.$$



              Observation 2: $x=2$ and $yequiv2pmod12$.



              Reducing mod $8$ shows that if $xgeq3$ then
              $$1=2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv-5^zcdot7^wpmod8,$$
              which implies that $z$ is even, a contradiction, hence $xleq 2$. Reducing mod $5$ and $7$ shows that
              $$1equiv2^xcdot3^yequiv2^x-ypmod5
              qquadtext and qquad
              1equiv2^xcdot3^yequiv3^2x+ypmod7,$$
              which tells us that $x-yequiv0pmod4$ and $2x+yequiv0pmod6$. It follows that $y$ is even and hence also $x$ is even. Because $xleq2$ we find that $x=2$ and hence that $yequiv2pmod12$.



              Observation 3: $w=1$.



              Reducing mod $8$ shows that
              $$1equiv4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv4-5cdot7^wpmod8,$$
              because $y$ is even and $z$ is odd, and so $w$ is also odd. Reducing mod $49$ shows that if $wgeq2$ then
              $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv4cdot3^ypmod49,$$
              which implies that $yequiv32pmod42$. Then reducing mod $43$ shows that
              $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv9-5^zcdot7^wpmod43,$$
              and hence $5^zcdot7^wequiv8pmod43$. But $5$, $7$ and $8$ are all quadratic nonresidues mod $43$, and $z$ and $w$ are odd, a contradiction, hence $w=1$.



              Observation 4: $y=2$.



              Reducing mod $27$ shows that if $ygeq3$ then
              $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7equiv-5^zcdot7pmod27,$$
              which implies that $zequiv13pmod18$. Then $5^zequiv17pmod19$ so reducing mod $19$ then shows that
              $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7equiv4cdot3^y-17cdot7equiv4cdot3^y-5pmod19,$$
              and so $4cdot3^yequiv6pmod19$. But $4cdot3^yequiv5,16,17pmod19$ because $yequiv2pmod6$, a contradiction, hence $yleq2$. Because $y$ is even we find that $y=2$.



              Conclusion: The only solution to
              $$2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^w=1,$$
              in the positive integers is $(x,y,z,w)=(2,2,1,1)$.






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                Here's a proof without Størmer's theorem, relying purely on (a lot of) modular arithmetic:



                Observation 1: $z$ is odd.



                Reducing mod $3$ shows that
                $$1=2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv-(-1)^zpmod3.$$



                Observation 2: $x=2$ and $yequiv2pmod12$.



                Reducing mod $8$ shows that if $xgeq3$ then
                $$1=2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv-5^zcdot7^wpmod8,$$
                which implies that $z$ is even, a contradiction, hence $xleq 2$. Reducing mod $5$ and $7$ shows that
                $$1equiv2^xcdot3^yequiv2^x-ypmod5
                qquadtext and qquad
                1equiv2^xcdot3^yequiv3^2x+ypmod7,$$
                which tells us that $x-yequiv0pmod4$ and $2x+yequiv0pmod6$. It follows that $y$ is even and hence also $x$ is even. Because $xleq2$ we find that $x=2$ and hence that $yequiv2pmod12$.



                Observation 3: $w=1$.



                Reducing mod $8$ shows that
                $$1equiv4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv4-5cdot7^wpmod8,$$
                because $y$ is even and $z$ is odd, and so $w$ is also odd. Reducing mod $49$ shows that if $wgeq2$ then
                $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv4cdot3^ypmod49,$$
                which implies that $yequiv32pmod42$. Then reducing mod $43$ shows that
                $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv9-5^zcdot7^wpmod43,$$
                and hence $5^zcdot7^wequiv8pmod43$. But $5$, $7$ and $8$ are all quadratic nonresidues mod $43$, and $z$ and $w$ are odd, a contradiction, hence $w=1$.



                Observation 4: $y=2$.



                Reducing mod $27$ shows that if $ygeq3$ then
                $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7equiv-5^zcdot7pmod27,$$
                which implies that $zequiv13pmod18$. Then $5^zequiv17pmod19$ so reducing mod $19$ then shows that
                $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7equiv4cdot3^y-17cdot7equiv4cdot3^y-5pmod19,$$
                and so $4cdot3^yequiv6pmod19$. But $4cdot3^yequiv5,16,17pmod19$ because $yequiv2pmod6$, a contradiction, hence $yleq2$. Because $y$ is even we find that $y=2$.



                Conclusion: The only solution to
                $$2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^w=1,$$
                in the positive integers is $(x,y,z,w)=(2,2,1,1)$.






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                  Here's a proof without Størmer's theorem, relying purely on (a lot of) modular arithmetic:



                  Observation 1: $z$ is odd.



                  Reducing mod $3$ shows that
                  $$1=2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv-(-1)^zpmod3.$$



                  Observation 2: $x=2$ and $yequiv2pmod12$.



                  Reducing mod $8$ shows that if $xgeq3$ then
                  $$1=2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv-5^zcdot7^wpmod8,$$
                  which implies that $z$ is even, a contradiction, hence $xleq 2$. Reducing mod $5$ and $7$ shows that
                  $$1equiv2^xcdot3^yequiv2^x-ypmod5
                  qquadtext and qquad
                  1equiv2^xcdot3^yequiv3^2x+ypmod7,$$
                  which tells us that $x-yequiv0pmod4$ and $2x+yequiv0pmod6$. It follows that $y$ is even and hence also $x$ is even. Because $xleq2$ we find that $x=2$ and hence that $yequiv2pmod12$.



                  Observation 3: $w=1$.



                  Reducing mod $8$ shows that
                  $$1equiv4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv4-5cdot7^wpmod8,$$
                  because $y$ is even and $z$ is odd, and so $w$ is also odd. Reducing mod $49$ shows that if $wgeq2$ then
                  $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv4cdot3^ypmod49,$$
                  which implies that $yequiv32pmod42$. Then reducing mod $43$ shows that
                  $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv9-5^zcdot7^wpmod43,$$
                  and hence $5^zcdot7^wequiv8pmod43$. But $5$, $7$ and $8$ are all quadratic nonresidues mod $43$, and $z$ and $w$ are odd, a contradiction, hence $w=1$.



                  Observation 4: $y=2$.



                  Reducing mod $27$ shows that if $ygeq3$ then
                  $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7equiv-5^zcdot7pmod27,$$
                  which implies that $zequiv13pmod18$. Then $5^zequiv17pmod19$ so reducing mod $19$ then shows that
                  $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7equiv4cdot3^y-17cdot7equiv4cdot3^y-5pmod19,$$
                  and so $4cdot3^yequiv6pmod19$. But $4cdot3^yequiv5,16,17pmod19$ because $yequiv2pmod6$, a contradiction, hence $yleq2$. Because $y$ is even we find that $y=2$.



                  Conclusion: The only solution to
                  $$2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^w=1,$$
                  in the positive integers is $(x,y,z,w)=(2,2,1,1)$.






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                  Here's a proof without Størmer's theorem, relying purely on (a lot of) modular arithmetic:



                  Observation 1: $z$ is odd.



                  Reducing mod $3$ shows that
                  $$1=2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv-(-1)^zpmod3.$$



                  Observation 2: $x=2$ and $yequiv2pmod12$.



                  Reducing mod $8$ shows that if $xgeq3$ then
                  $$1=2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv-5^zcdot7^wpmod8,$$
                  which implies that $z$ is even, a contradiction, hence $xleq 2$. Reducing mod $5$ and $7$ shows that
                  $$1equiv2^xcdot3^yequiv2^x-ypmod5
                  qquadtext and qquad
                  1equiv2^xcdot3^yequiv3^2x+ypmod7,$$
                  which tells us that $x-yequiv0pmod4$ and $2x+yequiv0pmod6$. It follows that $y$ is even and hence also $x$ is even. Because $xleq2$ we find that $x=2$ and hence that $yequiv2pmod12$.



                  Observation 3: $w=1$.



                  Reducing mod $8$ shows that
                  $$1equiv4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv4-5cdot7^wpmod8,$$
                  because $y$ is even and $z$ is odd, and so $w$ is also odd. Reducing mod $49$ shows that if $wgeq2$ then
                  $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv4cdot3^ypmod49,$$
                  which implies that $yequiv32pmod42$. Then reducing mod $43$ shows that
                  $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7^wequiv9-5^zcdot7^wpmod43,$$
                  and hence $5^zcdot7^wequiv8pmod43$. But $5$, $7$ and $8$ are all quadratic nonresidues mod $43$, and $z$ and $w$ are odd, a contradiction, hence $w=1$.



                  Observation 4: $y=2$.



                  Reducing mod $27$ shows that if $ygeq3$ then
                  $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7equiv-5^zcdot7pmod27,$$
                  which implies that $zequiv13pmod18$. Then $5^zequiv17pmod19$ so reducing mod $19$ then shows that
                  $$1=4cdot3^y-5^zcdot7equiv4cdot3^y-17cdot7equiv4cdot3^y-5pmod19,$$
                  and so $4cdot3^yequiv6pmod19$. But $4cdot3^yequiv5,16,17pmod19$ because $yequiv2pmod6$, a contradiction, hence $yleq2$. Because $y$ is even we find that $y=2$.



                  Conclusion: The only solution to
                  $$2^xcdot3^y-5^zcdot7^w=1,$$
                  in the positive integers is $(x,y,z,w)=(2,2,1,1)$.







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