Derivative of inverse trigonometric functions: $f(x)=arcsinleft(2xsqrt1-x^2right)$
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While trying to find the derivative of
$$f(x)=arcsinleft(2xsqrt1-x^2right)$$
we arrive at two different answers by substituting $x=sin t$ or $x=cos t$. The aim is to simplify it as $arcsin(sin2t)$ and further simplify it as $2t$ and take its derivative. Proceeding in that manner, I arrived at two different answers for the derivative. I could understand that it was because the function $f$ is defined differently in different intervals, and as I have solved the problem without considering the intervals, I hit this answer. Also, I thought that since $sin t$ and $cos t$ will coincide only when $t=dfracpi4$, $x=pmdfrac1sqrt2$ will be the points where the definition changes. I got some more clarity when I looked at the graph of $f(x)$ but I could not figure out a way to systematically figure out what answer suits what interval.
MAJOR EDIT: I made a mistake in the function itself that I had given. My question earlier read:
$$f(x)=arcsinleft(2xsqrtx^2-1right)$$
But I wanted only for what I've now altered it as. My sincere apologies...
EDIT: My question is how to figure out the interval in which the substitution applies for such problems in general. I don't need the expression for the derivative of $f(x)$.
Note: I am new to this community, so please point out any deviation from the policy, if I have deviated.
Also, I couldn't post my working as I do not have $10$ reputation.
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While trying to find the derivative of
$$f(x)=arcsinleft(2xsqrt1-x^2right)$$
we arrive at two different answers by substituting $x=sin t$ or $x=cos t$. The aim is to simplify it as $arcsin(sin2t)$ and further simplify it as $2t$ and take its derivative. Proceeding in that manner, I arrived at two different answers for the derivative. I could understand that it was because the function $f$ is defined differently in different intervals, and as I have solved the problem without considering the intervals, I hit this answer. Also, I thought that since $sin t$ and $cos t$ will coincide only when $t=dfracpi4$, $x=pmdfrac1sqrt2$ will be the points where the definition changes. I got some more clarity when I looked at the graph of $f(x)$ but I could not figure out a way to systematically figure out what answer suits what interval.
MAJOR EDIT: I made a mistake in the function itself that I had given. My question earlier read:
$$f(x)=arcsinleft(2xsqrtx^2-1right)$$
But I wanted only for what I've now altered it as. My sincere apologies...
EDIT: My question is how to figure out the interval in which the substitution applies for such problems in general. I don't need the expression for the derivative of $f(x)$.
Note: I am new to this community, so please point out any deviation from the policy, if I have deviated.
Also, I couldn't post my working as I do not have $10$ reputation.
calculus trigonometry derivatives inverse-function
At least put each formula between dollars.
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:01
The MathJax tutorial may help.
â Xander Henderson
Aug 11 at 4:02
Thank you for the link... I've made the changes.
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:10
your substitution with $sin$ or $cos$ doesn't work. $sqrtsin^2x-1=sqrt-cos^2x$ is undefined . . .
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:21
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$x^2-1geq0$ shows $|x|geq1$ while $|sin|leq1$
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Aug 11 at 4:34
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While trying to find the derivative of
$$f(x)=arcsinleft(2xsqrt1-x^2right)$$
we arrive at two different answers by substituting $x=sin t$ or $x=cos t$. The aim is to simplify it as $arcsin(sin2t)$ and further simplify it as $2t$ and take its derivative. Proceeding in that manner, I arrived at two different answers for the derivative. I could understand that it was because the function $f$ is defined differently in different intervals, and as I have solved the problem without considering the intervals, I hit this answer. Also, I thought that since $sin t$ and $cos t$ will coincide only when $t=dfracpi4$, $x=pmdfrac1sqrt2$ will be the points where the definition changes. I got some more clarity when I looked at the graph of $f(x)$ but I could not figure out a way to systematically figure out what answer suits what interval.
MAJOR EDIT: I made a mistake in the function itself that I had given. My question earlier read:
$$f(x)=arcsinleft(2xsqrtx^2-1right)$$
But I wanted only for what I've now altered it as. My sincere apologies...
EDIT: My question is how to figure out the interval in which the substitution applies for such problems in general. I don't need the expression for the derivative of $f(x)$.
Note: I am new to this community, so please point out any deviation from the policy, if I have deviated.
Also, I couldn't post my working as I do not have $10$ reputation.
calculus trigonometry derivatives inverse-function
While trying to find the derivative of
$$f(x)=arcsinleft(2xsqrt1-x^2right)$$
we arrive at two different answers by substituting $x=sin t$ or $x=cos t$. The aim is to simplify it as $arcsin(sin2t)$ and further simplify it as $2t$ and take its derivative. Proceeding in that manner, I arrived at two different answers for the derivative. I could understand that it was because the function $f$ is defined differently in different intervals, and as I have solved the problem without considering the intervals, I hit this answer. Also, I thought that since $sin t$ and $cos t$ will coincide only when $t=dfracpi4$, $x=pmdfrac1sqrt2$ will be the points where the definition changes. I got some more clarity when I looked at the graph of $f(x)$ but I could not figure out a way to systematically figure out what answer suits what interval.
MAJOR EDIT: I made a mistake in the function itself that I had given. My question earlier read:
$$f(x)=arcsinleft(2xsqrtx^2-1right)$$
But I wanted only for what I've now altered it as. My sincere apologies...
EDIT: My question is how to figure out the interval in which the substitution applies for such problems in general. I don't need the expression for the derivative of $f(x)$.
Note: I am new to this community, so please point out any deviation from the policy, if I have deviated.
Also, I couldn't post my working as I do not have $10$ reputation.
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At least put each formula between dollars.
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:01
The MathJax tutorial may help.
â Xander Henderson
Aug 11 at 4:02
Thank you for the link... I've made the changes.
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:10
your substitution with $sin$ or $cos$ doesn't work. $sqrtsin^2x-1=sqrt-cos^2x$ is undefined . . .
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:21
1
$x^2-1geq0$ shows $|x|geq1$ while $|sin|leq1$
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:34
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At least put each formula between dollars.
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:01
The MathJax tutorial may help.
â Xander Henderson
Aug 11 at 4:02
Thank you for the link... I've made the changes.
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:10
your substitution with $sin$ or $cos$ doesn't work. $sqrtsin^2x-1=sqrt-cos^2x$ is undefined . . .
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:21
1
$x^2-1geq0$ shows $|x|geq1$ while $|sin|leq1$
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:34
At least put each formula between dollars.
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:01
At least put each formula between dollars.
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:01
The MathJax tutorial may help.
â Xander Henderson
Aug 11 at 4:02
The MathJax tutorial may help.
â Xander Henderson
Aug 11 at 4:02
Thank you for the link... I've made the changes.
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:10
Thank you for the link... I've made the changes.
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:10
your substitution with $sin$ or $cos$ doesn't work. $sqrtsin^2x-1=sqrt-cos^2x$ is undefined . . .
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:21
your substitution with $sin$ or $cos$ doesn't work. $sqrtsin^2x-1=sqrt-cos^2x$ is undefined . . .
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:21
1
1
$x^2-1geq0$ shows $|x|geq1$ while $|sin|leq1$
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:34
$x^2-1geq0$ shows $|x|geq1$ while $|sin|leq1$
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:34
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$$f(x)=arcsin(2xsqrtx^2-1)$$
$$sin(f(x))=2xsqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x) cos(f(x))=2sqrtx^2-1+2xdfrac2x2sqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x)sqrt1-sin^2f(x)=2dfrac2x^2-1sqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x)=2dfrac2x^2-1sqrtx^2-1sqrt1-4x^4+4x^2$$
Thank you for the answer! But my question was about the answer I got in a certain method. It would be of great help if you could clarify that question
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:16
Really I couldn't read your post. Now you've edited so I read it!
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:18
oh yes. And thanks for your suggestion in the comments.
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:19
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$$ f(x) = arcsin(2xsqrtx^2-1) $$
Replace x=cosh$theta$
then f(x) = arcsin(sinh$2theta$)
by differentiating f(x),
f '(x) = $frac2cosh(2theta)sqrt1-sinh^2(2theta)sqrtx^2-1$
Replacing $ cosh(2theta) = 2x^2-1 $
f '(x) = $frac4x^2-2sqrt1-4x^4+4x^2sqrtx^2-1$
Is x=sinhø a valid substitution?
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:24
@RaghavasimhanVaradharajan, x = $ cosh(theta) $ is a valid substitution
â Narendra Deconda
Aug 11 at 5:08
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$$f(x)=arcsin(2xsqrtx^2-1)$$
$$sin(f(x))=2xsqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x) cos(f(x))=2sqrtx^2-1+2xdfrac2x2sqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x)sqrt1-sin^2f(x)=2dfrac2x^2-1sqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x)=2dfrac2x^2-1sqrtx^2-1sqrt1-4x^4+4x^2$$
Thank you for the answer! But my question was about the answer I got in a certain method. It would be of great help if you could clarify that question
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:16
Really I couldn't read your post. Now you've edited so I read it!
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:18
oh yes. And thanks for your suggestion in the comments.
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:19
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$$f(x)=arcsin(2xsqrtx^2-1)$$
$$sin(f(x))=2xsqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x) cos(f(x))=2sqrtx^2-1+2xdfrac2x2sqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x)sqrt1-sin^2f(x)=2dfrac2x^2-1sqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x)=2dfrac2x^2-1sqrtx^2-1sqrt1-4x^4+4x^2$$
Thank you for the answer! But my question was about the answer I got in a certain method. It would be of great help if you could clarify that question
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:16
Really I couldn't read your post. Now you've edited so I read it!
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:18
oh yes. And thanks for your suggestion in the comments.
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:19
add a comment |Â
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$$f(x)=arcsin(2xsqrtx^2-1)$$
$$sin(f(x))=2xsqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x) cos(f(x))=2sqrtx^2-1+2xdfrac2x2sqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x)sqrt1-sin^2f(x)=2dfrac2x^2-1sqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x)=2dfrac2x^2-1sqrtx^2-1sqrt1-4x^4+4x^2$$
$$f(x)=arcsin(2xsqrtx^2-1)$$
$$sin(f(x))=2xsqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x) cos(f(x))=2sqrtx^2-1+2xdfrac2x2sqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x)sqrt1-sin^2f(x)=2dfrac2x^2-1sqrtx^2-1$$
$$f'(x)=2dfrac2x^2-1sqrtx^2-1sqrt1-4x^4+4x^2$$
answered Aug 11 at 4:12
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Thank you for the answer! But my question was about the answer I got in a certain method. It would be of great help if you could clarify that question
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:16
Really I couldn't read your post. Now you've edited so I read it!
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:18
oh yes. And thanks for your suggestion in the comments.
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:19
add a comment |Â
Thank you for the answer! But my question was about the answer I got in a certain method. It would be of great help if you could clarify that question
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:16
Really I couldn't read your post. Now you've edited so I read it!
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:18
oh yes. And thanks for your suggestion in the comments.
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:19
Thank you for the answer! But my question was about the answer I got in a certain method. It would be of great help if you could clarify that question
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:16
Thank you for the answer! But my question was about the answer I got in a certain method. It would be of great help if you could clarify that question
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:16
Really I couldn't read your post. Now you've edited so I read it!
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:18
Really I couldn't read your post. Now you've edited so I read it!
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:18
oh yes. And thanks for your suggestion in the comments.
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:19
oh yes. And thanks for your suggestion in the comments.
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:19
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
$$ f(x) = arcsin(2xsqrtx^2-1) $$
Replace x=cosh$theta$
then f(x) = arcsin(sinh$2theta$)
by differentiating f(x),
f '(x) = $frac2cosh(2theta)sqrt1-sinh^2(2theta)sqrtx^2-1$
Replacing $ cosh(2theta) = 2x^2-1 $
f '(x) = $frac4x^2-2sqrt1-4x^4+4x^2sqrtx^2-1$
Is x=sinhø a valid substitution?
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:24
@RaghavasimhanVaradharajan, x = $ cosh(theta) $ is a valid substitution
â Narendra Deconda
Aug 11 at 5:08
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
$$ f(x) = arcsin(2xsqrtx^2-1) $$
Replace x=cosh$theta$
then f(x) = arcsin(sinh$2theta$)
by differentiating f(x),
f '(x) = $frac2cosh(2theta)sqrt1-sinh^2(2theta)sqrtx^2-1$
Replacing $ cosh(2theta) = 2x^2-1 $
f '(x) = $frac4x^2-2sqrt1-4x^4+4x^2sqrtx^2-1$
Is x=sinhø a valid substitution?
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:24
@RaghavasimhanVaradharajan, x = $ cosh(theta) $ is a valid substitution
â Narendra Deconda
Aug 11 at 5:08
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
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up vote
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$$ f(x) = arcsin(2xsqrtx^2-1) $$
Replace x=cosh$theta$
then f(x) = arcsin(sinh$2theta$)
by differentiating f(x),
f '(x) = $frac2cosh(2theta)sqrt1-sinh^2(2theta)sqrtx^2-1$
Replacing $ cosh(2theta) = 2x^2-1 $
f '(x) = $frac4x^2-2sqrt1-4x^4+4x^2sqrtx^2-1$
$$ f(x) = arcsin(2xsqrtx^2-1) $$
Replace x=cosh$theta$
then f(x) = arcsin(sinh$2theta$)
by differentiating f(x),
f '(x) = $frac2cosh(2theta)sqrt1-sinh^2(2theta)sqrtx^2-1$
Replacing $ cosh(2theta) = 2x^2-1 $
f '(x) = $frac4x^2-2sqrt1-4x^4+4x^2sqrtx^2-1$
edited Aug 11 at 5:10
answered Aug 11 at 4:20
Narendra Deconda
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Is x=sinhø a valid substitution?
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:24
@RaghavasimhanVaradharajan, x = $ cosh(theta) $ is a valid substitution
â Narendra Deconda
Aug 11 at 5:08
add a comment |Â
Is x=sinhø a valid substitution?
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:24
@RaghavasimhanVaradharajan, x = $ cosh(theta) $ is a valid substitution
â Narendra Deconda
Aug 11 at 5:08
Is x=sinhø a valid substitution?
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:24
Is x=sinhø a valid substitution?
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:24
@RaghavasimhanVaradharajan, x = $ cosh(theta) $ is a valid substitution
â Narendra Deconda
Aug 11 at 5:08
@RaghavasimhanVaradharajan, x = $ cosh(theta) $ is a valid substitution
â Narendra Deconda
Aug 11 at 5:08
add a comment |Â
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At least put each formula between dollars.
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:01
The MathJax tutorial may help.
â Xander Henderson
Aug 11 at 4:02
Thank you for the link... I've made the changes.
â Raghavasimhan Varadharajan
Aug 11 at 4:10
your substitution with $sin$ or $cos$ doesn't work. $sqrtsin^2x-1=sqrt-cos^2x$ is undefined . . .
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:21
1
$x^2-1geq0$ shows $|x|geq1$ while $|sin|leq1$
â Nosrati
Aug 11 at 4:34