Maclaurin Series with $f^(n)(0)=0$

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I am learning Maclaurin Series for the first time and having trouble understanding it.



The thing is, Maclaurin Series has the basic thinking that infinite number of derivatives have coefficients of $f^(n)(0)$ that equals $n!C_n$. I get that.



But whenever there is a chain rule, does every $f^(n)(0)$ not become 0?



For example, for function $(4+x^2)^frac-12$, proper form of binomial function is
$frac12(1+fracx^24)^frac-12$,



the first derivative becomes $frac-12(1+fracx^24)^frac-32*fracx2$
and every following derivatives have $fracx2$ at the end, which makes $f^(n)(0)=0$ because x being zero makes everything zero.



But the solutions don't seem to mind it and solve problems as if there was not $fracx2$







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    I don't get what you are asking...
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  • Maclaurine Series is putting x=0 at f', f'',f''',f'''? but f', f'', f''', f'''' has x/2 multipliesd at the end, and when x=0, does not f'(0), f''(0), f'''(0), f''''(0), become 0 too?
    – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
    Aug 11 at 0:11














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I am learning Maclaurin Series for the first time and having trouble understanding it.



The thing is, Maclaurin Series has the basic thinking that infinite number of derivatives have coefficients of $f^(n)(0)$ that equals $n!C_n$. I get that.



But whenever there is a chain rule, does every $f^(n)(0)$ not become 0?



For example, for function $(4+x^2)^frac-12$, proper form of binomial function is
$frac12(1+fracx^24)^frac-12$,



the first derivative becomes $frac-12(1+fracx^24)^frac-32*fracx2$
and every following derivatives have $fracx2$ at the end, which makes $f^(n)(0)=0$ because x being zero makes everything zero.



But the solutions don't seem to mind it and solve problems as if there was not $fracx2$







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    I don't get what you are asking...
    – induction601
    Aug 11 at 0:06










  • Maclaurine Series is putting x=0 at f', f'',f''',f'''? but f', f'', f''', f'''' has x/2 multipliesd at the end, and when x=0, does not f'(0), f''(0), f'''(0), f''''(0), become 0 too?
    – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
    Aug 11 at 0:11












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up vote
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I am learning Maclaurin Series for the first time and having trouble understanding it.



The thing is, Maclaurin Series has the basic thinking that infinite number of derivatives have coefficients of $f^(n)(0)$ that equals $n!C_n$. I get that.



But whenever there is a chain rule, does every $f^(n)(0)$ not become 0?



For example, for function $(4+x^2)^frac-12$, proper form of binomial function is
$frac12(1+fracx^24)^frac-12$,



the first derivative becomes $frac-12(1+fracx^24)^frac-32*fracx2$
and every following derivatives have $fracx2$ at the end, which makes $f^(n)(0)=0$ because x being zero makes everything zero.



But the solutions don't seem to mind it and solve problems as if there was not $fracx2$







share|cite|improve this question












I am learning Maclaurin Series for the first time and having trouble understanding it.



The thing is, Maclaurin Series has the basic thinking that infinite number of derivatives have coefficients of $f^(n)(0)$ that equals $n!C_n$. I get that.



But whenever there is a chain rule, does every $f^(n)(0)$ not become 0?



For example, for function $(4+x^2)^frac-12$, proper form of binomial function is
$frac12(1+fracx^24)^frac-12$,



the first derivative becomes $frac-12(1+fracx^24)^frac-32*fracx2$
and every following derivatives have $fracx2$ at the end, which makes $f^(n)(0)=0$ because x being zero makes everything zero.



But the solutions don't seem to mind it and solve problems as if there was not $fracx2$









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    I don't get what you are asking...
    – induction601
    Aug 11 at 0:06










  • Maclaurine Series is putting x=0 at f', f'',f''',f'''? but f', f'', f''', f'''' has x/2 multipliesd at the end, and when x=0, does not f'(0), f''(0), f'''(0), f''''(0), become 0 too?
    – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
    Aug 11 at 0:11












  • 1




    I don't get what you are asking...
    – induction601
    Aug 11 at 0:06










  • Maclaurine Series is putting x=0 at f', f'',f''',f'''? but f', f'', f''', f'''' has x/2 multipliesd at the end, and when x=0, does not f'(0), f''(0), f'''(0), f''''(0), become 0 too?
    – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
    Aug 11 at 0:11







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1




I don't get what you are asking...
– induction601
Aug 11 at 0:06




I don't get what you are asking...
– induction601
Aug 11 at 0:06












Maclaurine Series is putting x=0 at f', f'',f''',f'''? but f', f'', f''', f'''' has x/2 multipliesd at the end, and when x=0, does not f'(0), f''(0), f'''(0), f''''(0), become 0 too?
– ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
Aug 11 at 0:11




Maclaurine Series is putting x=0 at f', f'',f''',f'''? but f', f'', f''', f'''' has x/2 multipliesd at the end, and when x=0, does not f'(0), f''(0), f'''(0), f''''(0), become 0 too?
– ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
Aug 11 at 0:11










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No



$f'(x)=-dfracxleft( x^2+4right) ^3/2$ and so indeed $f'(0)=0$



But $f''(x)=dfrac3 x^2left( x^2+4right) ^5/2-dfrac1left( x^2+4right) ^3/2$ so $f''(0)=0-dfrac18$ and something similar happens with all the even derivatives



In fact $$left( x^2+4right) ^-1/2= frac12-frac116 x^2+frac3256 x^4-frac52048 x^6+frac3565536 x^8-cdots$$






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  • I see what you are saying. The solution did not really mention it. And also the answer does not seem to account for what you are saying, although I agree with you. The question is
    – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
    Aug 11 at 0:56










  • I see what you are saying. The solution did not really mention it. And also the answer does not seem to account for what you are saying, although I agree with you. The answer is $frac12x + Sigma^infinity_n=1(-1)^nfrac(1)(3)(5)....(2n-1)n!2^3n+1x^2n-1$ The original question is $x(x^2+4)^-1/2$ The answer should have $(2n)!$ in the denomenator because odd numbered derivatives$f^(2n-1)(0)$ are 0, but the answer has n!, which suggests all $f^n(0)$ is accounted for.
    – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
    Aug 11 at 1:02


















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No, not every derivative has an $x/2$. In your example,
$$f^(2)(x) = frac 3,x^232, left( 1+x^2/4 right) ^5/2-1/8,
left( 1+x^2/4 right) ^-3/2
$$ so $f^(2)(0) = -1/8$.






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    No



    $f'(x)=-dfracxleft( x^2+4right) ^3/2$ and so indeed $f'(0)=0$



    But $f''(x)=dfrac3 x^2left( x^2+4right) ^5/2-dfrac1left( x^2+4right) ^3/2$ so $f''(0)=0-dfrac18$ and something similar happens with all the even derivatives



    In fact $$left( x^2+4right) ^-1/2= frac12-frac116 x^2+frac3256 x^4-frac52048 x^6+frac3565536 x^8-cdots$$






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    • I see what you are saying. The solution did not really mention it. And also the answer does not seem to account for what you are saying, although I agree with you. The question is
      – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
      Aug 11 at 0:56










    • I see what you are saying. The solution did not really mention it. And also the answer does not seem to account for what you are saying, although I agree with you. The answer is $frac12x + Sigma^infinity_n=1(-1)^nfrac(1)(3)(5)....(2n-1)n!2^3n+1x^2n-1$ The original question is $x(x^2+4)^-1/2$ The answer should have $(2n)!$ in the denomenator because odd numbered derivatives$f^(2n-1)(0)$ are 0, but the answer has n!, which suggests all $f^n(0)$ is accounted for.
      – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
      Aug 11 at 1:02















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    No



    $f'(x)=-dfracxleft( x^2+4right) ^3/2$ and so indeed $f'(0)=0$



    But $f''(x)=dfrac3 x^2left( x^2+4right) ^5/2-dfrac1left( x^2+4right) ^3/2$ so $f''(0)=0-dfrac18$ and something similar happens with all the even derivatives



    In fact $$left( x^2+4right) ^-1/2= frac12-frac116 x^2+frac3256 x^4-frac52048 x^6+frac3565536 x^8-cdots$$






    share|cite|improve this answer




















    • I see what you are saying. The solution did not really mention it. And also the answer does not seem to account for what you are saying, although I agree with you. The question is
      – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
      Aug 11 at 0:56










    • I see what you are saying. The solution did not really mention it. And also the answer does not seem to account for what you are saying, although I agree with you. The answer is $frac12x + Sigma^infinity_n=1(-1)^nfrac(1)(3)(5)....(2n-1)n!2^3n+1x^2n-1$ The original question is $x(x^2+4)^-1/2$ The answer should have $(2n)!$ in the denomenator because odd numbered derivatives$f^(2n-1)(0)$ are 0, but the answer has n!, which suggests all $f^n(0)$ is accounted for.
      – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
      Aug 11 at 1:02













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    No



    $f'(x)=-dfracxleft( x^2+4right) ^3/2$ and so indeed $f'(0)=0$



    But $f''(x)=dfrac3 x^2left( x^2+4right) ^5/2-dfrac1left( x^2+4right) ^3/2$ so $f''(0)=0-dfrac18$ and something similar happens with all the even derivatives



    In fact $$left( x^2+4right) ^-1/2= frac12-frac116 x^2+frac3256 x^4-frac52048 x^6+frac3565536 x^8-cdots$$






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    No



    $f'(x)=-dfracxleft( x^2+4right) ^3/2$ and so indeed $f'(0)=0$



    But $f''(x)=dfrac3 x^2left( x^2+4right) ^5/2-dfrac1left( x^2+4right) ^3/2$ so $f''(0)=0-dfrac18$ and something similar happens with all the even derivatives



    In fact $$left( x^2+4right) ^-1/2= frac12-frac116 x^2+frac3256 x^4-frac52048 x^6+frac3565536 x^8-cdots$$







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    answered Aug 11 at 0:21









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    • I see what you are saying. The solution did not really mention it. And also the answer does not seem to account for what you are saying, although I agree with you. The question is
      – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
      Aug 11 at 0:56










    • I see what you are saying. The solution did not really mention it. And also the answer does not seem to account for what you are saying, although I agree with you. The answer is $frac12x + Sigma^infinity_n=1(-1)^nfrac(1)(3)(5)....(2n-1)n!2^3n+1x^2n-1$ The original question is $x(x^2+4)^-1/2$ The answer should have $(2n)!$ in the denomenator because odd numbered derivatives$f^(2n-1)(0)$ are 0, but the answer has n!, which suggests all $f^n(0)$ is accounted for.
      – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
      Aug 11 at 1:02

















    • I see what you are saying. The solution did not really mention it. And also the answer does not seem to account for what you are saying, although I agree with you. The question is
      – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
      Aug 11 at 0:56










    • I see what you are saying. The solution did not really mention it. And also the answer does not seem to account for what you are saying, although I agree with you. The answer is $frac12x + Sigma^infinity_n=1(-1)^nfrac(1)(3)(5)....(2n-1)n!2^3n+1x^2n-1$ The original question is $x(x^2+4)^-1/2$ The answer should have $(2n)!$ in the denomenator because odd numbered derivatives$f^(2n-1)(0)$ are 0, but the answer has n!, which suggests all $f^n(0)$ is accounted for.
      – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
      Aug 11 at 1:02
















    I see what you are saying. The solution did not really mention it. And also the answer does not seem to account for what you are saying, although I agree with you. The question is
    – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
    Aug 11 at 0:56




    I see what you are saying. The solution did not really mention it. And also the answer does not seem to account for what you are saying, although I agree with you. The question is
    – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
    Aug 11 at 0:56












    I see what you are saying. The solution did not really mention it. And also the answer does not seem to account for what you are saying, although I agree with you. The answer is $frac12x + Sigma^infinity_n=1(-1)^nfrac(1)(3)(5)....(2n-1)n!2^3n+1x^2n-1$ The original question is $x(x^2+4)^-1/2$ The answer should have $(2n)!$ in the denomenator because odd numbered derivatives$f^(2n-1)(0)$ are 0, but the answer has n!, which suggests all $f^n(0)$ is accounted for.
    – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
    Aug 11 at 1:02





    I see what you are saying. The solution did not really mention it. And also the answer does not seem to account for what you are saying, although I agree with you. The answer is $frac12x + Sigma^infinity_n=1(-1)^nfrac(1)(3)(5)....(2n-1)n!2^3n+1x^2n-1$ The original question is $x(x^2+4)^-1/2$ The answer should have $(2n)!$ in the denomenator because odd numbered derivatives$f^(2n-1)(0)$ are 0, but the answer has n!, which suggests all $f^n(0)$ is accounted for.
    – ê°•ìŠ¹íƒœ
    Aug 11 at 1:02











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    No, not every derivative has an $x/2$. In your example,
    $$f^(2)(x) = frac 3,x^232, left( 1+x^2/4 right) ^5/2-1/8,
    left( 1+x^2/4 right) ^-3/2
    $$ so $f^(2)(0) = -1/8$.






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      No, not every derivative has an $x/2$. In your example,
      $$f^(2)(x) = frac 3,x^232, left( 1+x^2/4 right) ^5/2-1/8,
      left( 1+x^2/4 right) ^-3/2
      $$ so $f^(2)(0) = -1/8$.






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        No, not every derivative has an $x/2$. In your example,
        $$f^(2)(x) = frac 3,x^232, left( 1+x^2/4 right) ^5/2-1/8,
        left( 1+x^2/4 right) ^-3/2
        $$ so $f^(2)(0) = -1/8$.






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        No, not every derivative has an $x/2$. In your example,
        $$f^(2)(x) = frac 3,x^232, left( 1+x^2/4 right) ^5/2-1/8,
        left( 1+x^2/4 right) ^-3/2
        $$ so $f^(2)(0) = -1/8$.







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