Set of zero divisors and the set of units of the ring of functions from $X$ to $R$

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I was trying to answer the following question: Let $X$ be a non-empty set and $R$ be a ring. Then define $F(X,R)$ to be the ring of functions from $X$ to $R$. Then what is the set of zero divisors and the set of units of $F(X,R)$?
My attempt:
Let $A$ and $B$ be the set of units and set of zero divisors of $R$, respectively.
Set of units of $F(X,R)$ : $fin F(X,R) : f(x)in A;forall xin X$.
Set of zero divisors of $F(X,R)$ : $fin F(X,R) : f(x)in B;forall xin X$.
Are the answers correct? Please suggest answers if this isn't correct.
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Hope this isn't a duplicate.
I was trying to answer the following question: Let $X$ be a non-empty set and $R$ be a ring. Then define $F(X,R)$ to be the ring of functions from $X$ to $R$. Then what is the set of zero divisors and the set of units of $F(X,R)$?
My attempt:
Let $A$ and $B$ be the set of units and set of zero divisors of $R$, respectively.
Set of units of $F(X,R)$ : $fin F(X,R) : f(x)in A;forall xin X$.
Set of zero divisors of $F(X,R)$ : $fin F(X,R) : f(x)in B;forall xin X$.
Are the answers correct? Please suggest answers if this isn't correct.
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Hope this isn't a duplicate.
I was trying to answer the following question: Let $X$ be a non-empty set and $R$ be a ring. Then define $F(X,R)$ to be the ring of functions from $X$ to $R$. Then what is the set of zero divisors and the set of units of $F(X,R)$?
My attempt:
Let $A$ and $B$ be the set of units and set of zero divisors of $R$, respectively.
Set of units of $F(X,R)$ : $fin F(X,R) : f(x)in A;forall xin X$.
Set of zero divisors of $F(X,R)$ : $fin F(X,R) : f(x)in B;forall xin X$.
Are the answers correct? Please suggest answers if this isn't correct.
abstract-algebra ring-theory
Hope this isn't a duplicate.
I was trying to answer the following question: Let $X$ be a non-empty set and $R$ be a ring. Then define $F(X,R)$ to be the ring of functions from $X$ to $R$. Then what is the set of zero divisors and the set of units of $F(X,R)$?
My attempt:
Let $A$ and $B$ be the set of units and set of zero divisors of $R$, respectively.
Set of units of $F(X,R)$ : $fin F(X,R) : f(x)in A;forall xin X$.
Set of zero divisors of $F(X,R)$ : $fin F(X,R) : f(x)in B;forall xin X$.
Are the answers correct? Please suggest answers if this isn't correct.
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Your answer for the units of $F(X,R)$ is correct. But your answer for the zero divisors isn't.
By definition, $fin F(X,R)$ is a zero divisor iff there exists some function $gin F(X,R)$, $gneq0$ (as a function!) such that $fg$ is the identically zero function, i.e. $f(x)g(x)=0$ for all $xin X$. Note that the condition that $g$ is not the zero function does NOT preclude it from having some zero values â as long as it has at least one non-zero value, it's a non-zero function. For example, if we pick some specific $ain X$ and $rin R$, $rneq0$, then the function defined as
$$g(a)=r, quad g(x)=0 text for all xneq a$$
is a non-zero function, isn't it? So your answer to the zero divisors question needs to be corrected, because the $forall$ quantifier there is wrong.
The definition I follow for zero divisors is the following : an element a of a ring R is a zero divisor if there exists $b in R 0 $ such that ab=0 or ba=0. Hence I include 0 to be a zero divisor and hence following this convention, I think my answer is complete, right?
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Aug 19 at 4:48
@ThatIs: The issue is not whether your answer is complete or not. The issue is that your answer (to the second question) is wrong. The definition you stated here is correct, of course. But you need to find zero divisors in the ring of functions $F(X,R)$, so you need to understand what makes a function a zero divisor, i.e. what this definition says when the ring is $F(X,R)$.
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Aug 19 at 5:21
I think I got your point. So it should be the collection of all functions that map at least one point in X to a zero divisor in R?
â ThatIs
Aug 19 at 5:54
@ThatIs: Yes, exactly!
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Your answer is correct $f$ is a divisor of zero if and only if there exists a function $g$ such that $f(x)g(x)=0$ this is equivalent that the image of $f$ is contained in the set of zero divisors of $R$.
A similar argument shows that $f$ is a unit ($f(x)g(x)=1$) if and only if the image of $f$ is contained in the set of units of $R$.
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Your answer for the units of $F(X,R)$ is correct. But your answer for the zero divisors isn't.
By definition, $fin F(X,R)$ is a zero divisor iff there exists some function $gin F(X,R)$, $gneq0$ (as a function!) such that $fg$ is the identically zero function, i.e. $f(x)g(x)=0$ for all $xin X$. Note that the condition that $g$ is not the zero function does NOT preclude it from having some zero values â as long as it has at least one non-zero value, it's a non-zero function. For example, if we pick some specific $ain X$ and $rin R$, $rneq0$, then the function defined as
$$g(a)=r, quad g(x)=0 text for all xneq a$$
is a non-zero function, isn't it? So your answer to the zero divisors question needs to be corrected, because the $forall$ quantifier there is wrong.
The definition I follow for zero divisors is the following : an element a of a ring R is a zero divisor if there exists $b in R 0 $ such that ab=0 or ba=0. Hence I include 0 to be a zero divisor and hence following this convention, I think my answer is complete, right?
â ThatIs
Aug 19 at 4:48
@ThatIs: The issue is not whether your answer is complete or not. The issue is that your answer (to the second question) is wrong. The definition you stated here is correct, of course. But you need to find zero divisors in the ring of functions $F(X,R)$, so you need to understand what makes a function a zero divisor, i.e. what this definition says when the ring is $F(X,R)$.
â zipirovich
Aug 19 at 5:21
I think I got your point. So it should be the collection of all functions that map at least one point in X to a zero divisor in R?
â ThatIs
Aug 19 at 5:54
@ThatIs: Yes, exactly!
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Aug 19 at 13:03
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Your answer for the units of $F(X,R)$ is correct. But your answer for the zero divisors isn't.
By definition, $fin F(X,R)$ is a zero divisor iff there exists some function $gin F(X,R)$, $gneq0$ (as a function!) such that $fg$ is the identically zero function, i.e. $f(x)g(x)=0$ for all $xin X$. Note that the condition that $g$ is not the zero function does NOT preclude it from having some zero values â as long as it has at least one non-zero value, it's a non-zero function. For example, if we pick some specific $ain X$ and $rin R$, $rneq0$, then the function defined as
$$g(a)=r, quad g(x)=0 text for all xneq a$$
is a non-zero function, isn't it? So your answer to the zero divisors question needs to be corrected, because the $forall$ quantifier there is wrong.
The definition I follow for zero divisors is the following : an element a of a ring R is a zero divisor if there exists $b in R 0 $ such that ab=0 or ba=0. Hence I include 0 to be a zero divisor and hence following this convention, I think my answer is complete, right?
â ThatIs
Aug 19 at 4:48
@ThatIs: The issue is not whether your answer is complete or not. The issue is that your answer (to the second question) is wrong. The definition you stated here is correct, of course. But you need to find zero divisors in the ring of functions $F(X,R)$, so you need to understand what makes a function a zero divisor, i.e. what this definition says when the ring is $F(X,R)$.
â zipirovich
Aug 19 at 5:21
I think I got your point. So it should be the collection of all functions that map at least one point in X to a zero divisor in R?
â ThatIs
Aug 19 at 5:54
@ThatIs: Yes, exactly!
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Your answer for the units of $F(X,R)$ is correct. But your answer for the zero divisors isn't.
By definition, $fin F(X,R)$ is a zero divisor iff there exists some function $gin F(X,R)$, $gneq0$ (as a function!) such that $fg$ is the identically zero function, i.e. $f(x)g(x)=0$ for all $xin X$. Note that the condition that $g$ is not the zero function does NOT preclude it from having some zero values â as long as it has at least one non-zero value, it's a non-zero function. For example, if we pick some specific $ain X$ and $rin R$, $rneq0$, then the function defined as
$$g(a)=r, quad g(x)=0 text for all xneq a$$
is a non-zero function, isn't it? So your answer to the zero divisors question needs to be corrected, because the $forall$ quantifier there is wrong.
Your answer for the units of $F(X,R)$ is correct. But your answer for the zero divisors isn't.
By definition, $fin F(X,R)$ is a zero divisor iff there exists some function $gin F(X,R)$, $gneq0$ (as a function!) such that $fg$ is the identically zero function, i.e. $f(x)g(x)=0$ for all $xin X$. Note that the condition that $g$ is not the zero function does NOT preclude it from having some zero values â as long as it has at least one non-zero value, it's a non-zero function. For example, if we pick some specific $ain X$ and $rin R$, $rneq0$, then the function defined as
$$g(a)=r, quad g(x)=0 text for all xneq a$$
is a non-zero function, isn't it? So your answer to the zero divisors question needs to be corrected, because the $forall$ quantifier there is wrong.
answered Aug 19 at 4:26
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The definition I follow for zero divisors is the following : an element a of a ring R is a zero divisor if there exists $b in R 0 $ such that ab=0 or ba=0. Hence I include 0 to be a zero divisor and hence following this convention, I think my answer is complete, right?
â ThatIs
Aug 19 at 4:48
@ThatIs: The issue is not whether your answer is complete or not. The issue is that your answer (to the second question) is wrong. The definition you stated here is correct, of course. But you need to find zero divisors in the ring of functions $F(X,R)$, so you need to understand what makes a function a zero divisor, i.e. what this definition says when the ring is $F(X,R)$.
â zipirovich
Aug 19 at 5:21
I think I got your point. So it should be the collection of all functions that map at least one point in X to a zero divisor in R?
â ThatIs
Aug 19 at 5:54
@ThatIs: Yes, exactly!
â zipirovich
Aug 19 at 13:03
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The definition I follow for zero divisors is the following : an element a of a ring R is a zero divisor if there exists $b in R 0 $ such that ab=0 or ba=0. Hence I include 0 to be a zero divisor and hence following this convention, I think my answer is complete, right?
â ThatIs
Aug 19 at 4:48
@ThatIs: The issue is not whether your answer is complete or not. The issue is that your answer (to the second question) is wrong. The definition you stated here is correct, of course. But you need to find zero divisors in the ring of functions $F(X,R)$, so you need to understand what makes a function a zero divisor, i.e. what this definition says when the ring is $F(X,R)$.
â zipirovich
Aug 19 at 5:21
I think I got your point. So it should be the collection of all functions that map at least one point in X to a zero divisor in R?
â ThatIs
Aug 19 at 5:54
@ThatIs: Yes, exactly!
â zipirovich
Aug 19 at 13:03
The definition I follow for zero divisors is the following : an element a of a ring R is a zero divisor if there exists $b in R 0 $ such that ab=0 or ba=0. Hence I include 0 to be a zero divisor and hence following this convention, I think my answer is complete, right?
â ThatIs
Aug 19 at 4:48
The definition I follow for zero divisors is the following : an element a of a ring R is a zero divisor if there exists $b in R 0 $ such that ab=0 or ba=0. Hence I include 0 to be a zero divisor and hence following this convention, I think my answer is complete, right?
â ThatIs
Aug 19 at 4:48
@ThatIs: The issue is not whether your answer is complete or not. The issue is that your answer (to the second question) is wrong. The definition you stated here is correct, of course. But you need to find zero divisors in the ring of functions $F(X,R)$, so you need to understand what makes a function a zero divisor, i.e. what this definition says when the ring is $F(X,R)$.
â zipirovich
Aug 19 at 5:21
@ThatIs: The issue is not whether your answer is complete or not. The issue is that your answer (to the second question) is wrong. The definition you stated here is correct, of course. But you need to find zero divisors in the ring of functions $F(X,R)$, so you need to understand what makes a function a zero divisor, i.e. what this definition says when the ring is $F(X,R)$.
â zipirovich
Aug 19 at 5:21
I think I got your point. So it should be the collection of all functions that map at least one point in X to a zero divisor in R?
â ThatIs
Aug 19 at 5:54
I think I got your point. So it should be the collection of all functions that map at least one point in X to a zero divisor in R?
â ThatIs
Aug 19 at 5:54
@ThatIs: Yes, exactly!
â zipirovich
Aug 19 at 13:03
@ThatIs: Yes, exactly!
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Aug 19 at 13:03
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Your answer is correct $f$ is a divisor of zero if and only if there exists a function $g$ such that $f(x)g(x)=0$ this is equivalent that the image of $f$ is contained in the set of zero divisors of $R$.
A similar argument shows that $f$ is a unit ($f(x)g(x)=1$) if and only if the image of $f$ is contained in the set of units of $R$.
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Your answer is correct $f$ is a divisor of zero if and only if there exists a function $g$ such that $f(x)g(x)=0$ this is equivalent that the image of $f$ is contained in the set of zero divisors of $R$.
A similar argument shows that $f$ is a unit ($f(x)g(x)=1$) if and only if the image of $f$ is contained in the set of units of $R$.
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Your answer is correct $f$ is a divisor of zero if and only if there exists a function $g$ such that $f(x)g(x)=0$ this is equivalent that the image of $f$ is contained in the set of zero divisors of $R$.
A similar argument shows that $f$ is a unit ($f(x)g(x)=1$) if and only if the image of $f$ is contained in the set of units of $R$.
Your answer is correct $f$ is a divisor of zero if and only if there exists a function $g$ such that $f(x)g(x)=0$ this is equivalent that the image of $f$ is contained in the set of zero divisors of $R$.
A similar argument shows that $f$ is a unit ($f(x)g(x)=1$) if and only if the image of $f$ is contained in the set of units of $R$.
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