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It is given that area of rectangle = its perimeter and the diagonal is 3âÂÂ5. We are to find it's area by use of quadratic equations. The problem is that I'm getting a 4 degree equation when I substitute for a in the second equation. How do I find the sides of rectangle ?
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It is given that area of rectangle = its perimeter and the diagonal is 3âÂÂ5. We are to find it's area by use of quadratic equations. The problem is that I'm getting a 4 degree equation when I substitute for a in the second equation. How do I find the sides of rectangle ?
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It is given that area of rectangle = its perimeter and the diagonal is 3âÂÂ5. We are to find it's area by use of quadratic equations. The problem is that I'm getting a 4 degree equation when I substitute for a in the second equation. How do I find the sides of rectangle ?
algebra-precalculus quadratics area
It is given that area of rectangle = its perimeter and the diagonal is 3âÂÂ5. We are to find it's area by use of quadratic equations. The problem is that I'm getting a 4 degree equation when I substitute for a in the second equation. How do I find the sides of rectangle ?
algebra-precalculus quadratics area
edited Aug 19 at 11:47
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Let, length$=a$ and weidth $=b$
So,
$$ab=2(a+b)..............(1)$$
$$textand,$$
$$a^2+b^2=(3 sqrt(5))^2...............(2)$$
From (2) we get,
beginarrayll
& a^2+b^2 &=(3 sqrt(5))^2\
& implies a^2+b^2 +2ab &=(3 sqrt(5))^2 +2ab \
& implies (a+b)^2 &=45+4(a+b) \
& implies (a+b)^2 -4(a+b)-45 &=0 \
&Let,&\
& & a+b=p\
& implies p^2 -4p-45 &=0 \
& implies (p-9)(p+5)&=0 \
& p=9,-5 &[textHere, p=-5 is not possible, because the sum of two lengths can't be negative]\
&Hence,&\
& a+b &=9 \
& implies a &=9-b..........(3)
endarray
From equation (1) we get now,
beginarrayll
& (9-b)b &=2(9-b+b)\
& implies b^2-9b+18 &=0 \
& implies (b-6)(b-3) &=0 \
& implies b &=3 text or, 6
endarray
From (3) we get,
$$ a=6,text if b=6$$
$$ a=3,text if b=3$$
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From
$$(3sqrt5)^2=a^2+b^2=(a+b)^2-2ab=frac14(ab)^2-2ab$$
$$iff (ab)^2-8ab-180=0iff(ab-18)(ab+10)=0$$
we find $ab=18$ or $-10$. Hence $a+b=9$. Now consider $a$ and $b$ as the solutions of
$$x^2-9x+18=0iff(x-3)(x-6)=0.$$
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Let's denote by $a,b$ the sides of the rectangle. Since the area is equal to the perimeter we have that
$$ab=2(a+b)$$ and using the information about the diagonal it is
$$sqrta^2+b^2=3sqrt5.$$ Squaring we get
$$a^2+b^2=45.$$
Thus, one has to solve the system
begincases
2a+2b &=ab\
a^2+b^2&=45
endcases
From the first equation we get $b=dfrac2aa-2$ and subtituting in the second it is
$$a^2+dfrac4a^2(a-2)^2=45.$$ We get
$$a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=0.$$
The integer solutions of this equation are divisors of $180.$ Since $a$ is the side of a rectangle we don't consider negative values. We see that $1$ and $2$ are not solutions but $3$ is. So we have
$$(a-3)(a^3-a^2-40a+60)=a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=0.$$ Now we work with $$a^3-a^2-40a+60$$ to find more possible solutions. We see that $6$ is a solution. And
$$a^3-a^2-40a+60=(a-6)(a^2+5a-10).$$ Thus
$$a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=(a-3)(a-6)(a^2+5a-10)=0.$$
So $$(a,b)=(3,6):textand: (a,b)=(6,3)$$ are integer solutions of the problem.
Now we consider the equation $a^2+5a-10=0.$ It has a positive solution which is $$dfracsqrt65-52.$$ Since
$$dfracsqrt65-5dfracsqrt65-52-2<0$$ this doesn't give a solution to the problem.
The part where I got stuck was when I substituted a = 2b/(b-2) from the first equation into the second equation. I get a 4th degree equation which I'm not able to solve
â Mayank Kamboj
Aug 19 at 11:50
If we have to put and check integer factors, it isn't hard to see $a=6$ and $b=3$ from the beginning.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 19 at 12:04
@prog_SAHIL Factoring the equation using integer roots allow us to see if there are non-integer solutions.
â mfl
Aug 19 at 12:06
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
Let, length$=a$ and weidth $=b$
So,
$$ab=2(a+b)..............(1)$$
$$textand,$$
$$a^2+b^2=(3 sqrt(5))^2...............(2)$$
From (2) we get,
beginarrayll
& a^2+b^2 &=(3 sqrt(5))^2\
& implies a^2+b^2 +2ab &=(3 sqrt(5))^2 +2ab \
& implies (a+b)^2 &=45+4(a+b) \
& implies (a+b)^2 -4(a+b)-45 &=0 \
&Let,&\
& & a+b=p\
& implies p^2 -4p-45 &=0 \
& implies (p-9)(p+5)&=0 \
& p=9,-5 &[textHere, p=-5 is not possible, because the sum of two lengths can't be negative]\
&Hence,&\
& a+b &=9 \
& implies a &=9-b..........(3)
endarray
From equation (1) we get now,
beginarrayll
& (9-b)b &=2(9-b+b)\
& implies b^2-9b+18 &=0 \
& implies (b-6)(b-3) &=0 \
& implies b &=3 text or, 6
endarray
From (3) we get,
$$ a=6,text if b=6$$
$$ a=3,text if b=3$$
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up vote
3
down vote
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Let, length$=a$ and weidth $=b$
So,
$$ab=2(a+b)..............(1)$$
$$textand,$$
$$a^2+b^2=(3 sqrt(5))^2...............(2)$$
From (2) we get,
beginarrayll
& a^2+b^2 &=(3 sqrt(5))^2\
& implies a^2+b^2 +2ab &=(3 sqrt(5))^2 +2ab \
& implies (a+b)^2 &=45+4(a+b) \
& implies (a+b)^2 -4(a+b)-45 &=0 \
&Let,&\
& & a+b=p\
& implies p^2 -4p-45 &=0 \
& implies (p-9)(p+5)&=0 \
& p=9,-5 &[textHere, p=-5 is not possible, because the sum of two lengths can't be negative]\
&Hence,&\
& a+b &=9 \
& implies a &=9-b..........(3)
endarray
From equation (1) we get now,
beginarrayll
& (9-b)b &=2(9-b+b)\
& implies b^2-9b+18 &=0 \
& implies (b-6)(b-3) &=0 \
& implies b &=3 text or, 6
endarray
From (3) we get,
$$ a=6,text if b=6$$
$$ a=3,text if b=3$$
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up vote
3
down vote
accepted
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
Let, length$=a$ and weidth $=b$
So,
$$ab=2(a+b)..............(1)$$
$$textand,$$
$$a^2+b^2=(3 sqrt(5))^2...............(2)$$
From (2) we get,
beginarrayll
& a^2+b^2 &=(3 sqrt(5))^2\
& implies a^2+b^2 +2ab &=(3 sqrt(5))^2 +2ab \
& implies (a+b)^2 &=45+4(a+b) \
& implies (a+b)^2 -4(a+b)-45 &=0 \
&Let,&\
& & a+b=p\
& implies p^2 -4p-45 &=0 \
& implies (p-9)(p+5)&=0 \
& p=9,-5 &[textHere, p=-5 is not possible, because the sum of two lengths can't be negative]\
&Hence,&\
& a+b &=9 \
& implies a &=9-b..........(3)
endarray
From equation (1) we get now,
beginarrayll
& (9-b)b &=2(9-b+b)\
& implies b^2-9b+18 &=0 \
& implies (b-6)(b-3) &=0 \
& implies b &=3 text or, 6
endarray
From (3) we get,
$$ a=6,text if b=6$$
$$ a=3,text if b=3$$
Let, length$=a$ and weidth $=b$
So,
$$ab=2(a+b)..............(1)$$
$$textand,$$
$$a^2+b^2=(3 sqrt(5))^2...............(2)$$
From (2) we get,
beginarrayll
& a^2+b^2 &=(3 sqrt(5))^2\
& implies a^2+b^2 +2ab &=(3 sqrt(5))^2 +2ab \
& implies (a+b)^2 &=45+4(a+b) \
& implies (a+b)^2 -4(a+b)-45 &=0 \
&Let,&\
& & a+b=p\
& implies p^2 -4p-45 &=0 \
& implies (p-9)(p+5)&=0 \
& p=9,-5 &[textHere, p=-5 is not possible, because the sum of two lengths can't be negative]\
&Hence,&\
& a+b &=9 \
& implies a &=9-b..........(3)
endarray
From equation (1) we get now,
beginarrayll
& (9-b)b &=2(9-b+b)\
& implies b^2-9b+18 &=0 \
& implies (b-6)(b-3) &=0 \
& implies b &=3 text or, 6
endarray
From (3) we get,
$$ a=6,text if b=6$$
$$ a=3,text if b=3$$
edited Aug 19 at 16:43
answered Aug 19 at 12:41
Rakibul Islam Prince
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From
$$(3sqrt5)^2=a^2+b^2=(a+b)^2-2ab=frac14(ab)^2-2ab$$
$$iff (ab)^2-8ab-180=0iff(ab-18)(ab+10)=0$$
we find $ab=18$ or $-10$. Hence $a+b=9$. Now consider $a$ and $b$ as the solutions of
$$x^2-9x+18=0iff(x-3)(x-6)=0.$$
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
From
$$(3sqrt5)^2=a^2+b^2=(a+b)^2-2ab=frac14(ab)^2-2ab$$
$$iff (ab)^2-8ab-180=0iff(ab-18)(ab+10)=0$$
we find $ab=18$ or $-10$. Hence $a+b=9$. Now consider $a$ and $b$ as the solutions of
$$x^2-9x+18=0iff(x-3)(x-6)=0.$$
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
From
$$(3sqrt5)^2=a^2+b^2=(a+b)^2-2ab=frac14(ab)^2-2ab$$
$$iff (ab)^2-8ab-180=0iff(ab-18)(ab+10)=0$$
we find $ab=18$ or $-10$. Hence $a+b=9$. Now consider $a$ and $b$ as the solutions of
$$x^2-9x+18=0iff(x-3)(x-6)=0.$$
From
$$(3sqrt5)^2=a^2+b^2=(a+b)^2-2ab=frac14(ab)^2-2ab$$
$$iff (ab)^2-8ab-180=0iff(ab-18)(ab+10)=0$$
we find $ab=18$ or $-10$. Hence $a+b=9$. Now consider $a$ and $b$ as the solutions of
$$x^2-9x+18=0iff(x-3)(x-6)=0.$$
edited Aug 19 at 13:10
answered Aug 19 at 13:04
Michael Hoppe
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Let's denote by $a,b$ the sides of the rectangle. Since the area is equal to the perimeter we have that
$$ab=2(a+b)$$ and using the information about the diagonal it is
$$sqrta^2+b^2=3sqrt5.$$ Squaring we get
$$a^2+b^2=45.$$
Thus, one has to solve the system
begincases
2a+2b &=ab\
a^2+b^2&=45
endcases
From the first equation we get $b=dfrac2aa-2$ and subtituting in the second it is
$$a^2+dfrac4a^2(a-2)^2=45.$$ We get
$$a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=0.$$
The integer solutions of this equation are divisors of $180.$ Since $a$ is the side of a rectangle we don't consider negative values. We see that $1$ and $2$ are not solutions but $3$ is. So we have
$$(a-3)(a^3-a^2-40a+60)=a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=0.$$ Now we work with $$a^3-a^2-40a+60$$ to find more possible solutions. We see that $6$ is a solution. And
$$a^3-a^2-40a+60=(a-6)(a^2+5a-10).$$ Thus
$$a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=(a-3)(a-6)(a^2+5a-10)=0.$$
So $$(a,b)=(3,6):textand: (a,b)=(6,3)$$ are integer solutions of the problem.
Now we consider the equation $a^2+5a-10=0.$ It has a positive solution which is $$dfracsqrt65-52.$$ Since
$$dfracsqrt65-5dfracsqrt65-52-2<0$$ this doesn't give a solution to the problem.
The part where I got stuck was when I substituted a = 2b/(b-2) from the first equation into the second equation. I get a 4th degree equation which I'm not able to solve
â Mayank Kamboj
Aug 19 at 11:50
If we have to put and check integer factors, it isn't hard to see $a=6$ and $b=3$ from the beginning.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 19 at 12:04
@prog_SAHIL Factoring the equation using integer roots allow us to see if there are non-integer solutions.
â mfl
Aug 19 at 12:06
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
Let's denote by $a,b$ the sides of the rectangle. Since the area is equal to the perimeter we have that
$$ab=2(a+b)$$ and using the information about the diagonal it is
$$sqrta^2+b^2=3sqrt5.$$ Squaring we get
$$a^2+b^2=45.$$
Thus, one has to solve the system
begincases
2a+2b &=ab\
a^2+b^2&=45
endcases
From the first equation we get $b=dfrac2aa-2$ and subtituting in the second it is
$$a^2+dfrac4a^2(a-2)^2=45.$$ We get
$$a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=0.$$
The integer solutions of this equation are divisors of $180.$ Since $a$ is the side of a rectangle we don't consider negative values. We see that $1$ and $2$ are not solutions but $3$ is. So we have
$$(a-3)(a^3-a^2-40a+60)=a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=0.$$ Now we work with $$a^3-a^2-40a+60$$ to find more possible solutions. We see that $6$ is a solution. And
$$a^3-a^2-40a+60=(a-6)(a^2+5a-10).$$ Thus
$$a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=(a-3)(a-6)(a^2+5a-10)=0.$$
So $$(a,b)=(3,6):textand: (a,b)=(6,3)$$ are integer solutions of the problem.
Now we consider the equation $a^2+5a-10=0.$ It has a positive solution which is $$dfracsqrt65-52.$$ Since
$$dfracsqrt65-5dfracsqrt65-52-2<0$$ this doesn't give a solution to the problem.
The part where I got stuck was when I substituted a = 2b/(b-2) from the first equation into the second equation. I get a 4th degree equation which I'm not able to solve
â Mayank Kamboj
Aug 19 at 11:50
If we have to put and check integer factors, it isn't hard to see $a=6$ and $b=3$ from the beginning.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 19 at 12:04
@prog_SAHIL Factoring the equation using integer roots allow us to see if there are non-integer solutions.
â mfl
Aug 19 at 12:06
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
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down vote
Let's denote by $a,b$ the sides of the rectangle. Since the area is equal to the perimeter we have that
$$ab=2(a+b)$$ and using the information about the diagonal it is
$$sqrta^2+b^2=3sqrt5.$$ Squaring we get
$$a^2+b^2=45.$$
Thus, one has to solve the system
begincases
2a+2b &=ab\
a^2+b^2&=45
endcases
From the first equation we get $b=dfrac2aa-2$ and subtituting in the second it is
$$a^2+dfrac4a^2(a-2)^2=45.$$ We get
$$a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=0.$$
The integer solutions of this equation are divisors of $180.$ Since $a$ is the side of a rectangle we don't consider negative values. We see that $1$ and $2$ are not solutions but $3$ is. So we have
$$(a-3)(a^3-a^2-40a+60)=a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=0.$$ Now we work with $$a^3-a^2-40a+60$$ to find more possible solutions. We see that $6$ is a solution. And
$$a^3-a^2-40a+60=(a-6)(a^2+5a-10).$$ Thus
$$a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=(a-3)(a-6)(a^2+5a-10)=0.$$
So $$(a,b)=(3,6):textand: (a,b)=(6,3)$$ are integer solutions of the problem.
Now we consider the equation $a^2+5a-10=0.$ It has a positive solution which is $$dfracsqrt65-52.$$ Since
$$dfracsqrt65-5dfracsqrt65-52-2<0$$ this doesn't give a solution to the problem.
Let's denote by $a,b$ the sides of the rectangle. Since the area is equal to the perimeter we have that
$$ab=2(a+b)$$ and using the information about the diagonal it is
$$sqrta^2+b^2=3sqrt5.$$ Squaring we get
$$a^2+b^2=45.$$
Thus, one has to solve the system
begincases
2a+2b &=ab\
a^2+b^2&=45
endcases
From the first equation we get $b=dfrac2aa-2$ and subtituting in the second it is
$$a^2+dfrac4a^2(a-2)^2=45.$$ We get
$$a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=0.$$
The integer solutions of this equation are divisors of $180.$ Since $a$ is the side of a rectangle we don't consider negative values. We see that $1$ and $2$ are not solutions but $3$ is. So we have
$$(a-3)(a^3-a^2-40a+60)=a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=0.$$ Now we work with $$a^3-a^2-40a+60$$ to find more possible solutions. We see that $6$ is a solution. And
$$a^3-a^2-40a+60=(a-6)(a^2+5a-10).$$ Thus
$$a^4-4a^3-37a^2+180a-180=(a-3)(a-6)(a^2+5a-10)=0.$$
So $$(a,b)=(3,6):textand: (a,b)=(6,3)$$ are integer solutions of the problem.
Now we consider the equation $a^2+5a-10=0.$ It has a positive solution which is $$dfracsqrt65-52.$$ Since
$$dfracsqrt65-5dfracsqrt65-52-2<0$$ this doesn't give a solution to the problem.
edited Aug 19 at 12:02
answered Aug 19 at 11:46
mfl
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The part where I got stuck was when I substituted a = 2b/(b-2) from the first equation into the second equation. I get a 4th degree equation which I'm not able to solve
â Mayank Kamboj
Aug 19 at 11:50
If we have to put and check integer factors, it isn't hard to see $a=6$ and $b=3$ from the beginning.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 19 at 12:04
@prog_SAHIL Factoring the equation using integer roots allow us to see if there are non-integer solutions.
â mfl
Aug 19 at 12:06
add a comment |Â
The part where I got stuck was when I substituted a = 2b/(b-2) from the first equation into the second equation. I get a 4th degree equation which I'm not able to solve
â Mayank Kamboj
Aug 19 at 11:50
If we have to put and check integer factors, it isn't hard to see $a=6$ and $b=3$ from the beginning.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 19 at 12:04
@prog_SAHIL Factoring the equation using integer roots allow us to see if there are non-integer solutions.
â mfl
Aug 19 at 12:06
The part where I got stuck was when I substituted a = 2b/(b-2) from the first equation into the second equation. I get a 4th degree equation which I'm not able to solve
â Mayank Kamboj
Aug 19 at 11:50
The part where I got stuck was when I substituted a = 2b/(b-2) from the first equation into the second equation. I get a 4th degree equation which I'm not able to solve
â Mayank Kamboj
Aug 19 at 11:50
If we have to put and check integer factors, it isn't hard to see $a=6$ and $b=3$ from the beginning.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 19 at 12:04
If we have to put and check integer factors, it isn't hard to see $a=6$ and $b=3$ from the beginning.
â prog_SAHIL
Aug 19 at 12:04
@prog_SAHIL Factoring the equation using integer roots allow us to see if there are non-integer solutions.
â mfl
Aug 19 at 12:06
@prog_SAHIL Factoring the equation using integer roots allow us to see if there are non-integer solutions.
â mfl
Aug 19 at 12:06
add a comment |Â
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Welcome to MSE. It will be more likely that you will get an answer if you show us that you made an effort. This should be added to the question rather than in the comments.
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Welcome to MathSE. Please read this MathJax tutorial, which explains how to typeset mathematics on this site, then edit your question to show what you have attempted and explain where you are stuck.
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