Show using the definition of convergence that the sequence 1/n does not converge to any number $L > 0$.

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Let $epsilon > 0$



$|1/n - L| < epsilon$ for some $ngeq N$. (definition of convergence)



This implies $-epsiloncdot n < 1 - nL < epsiloncdot n$



Therefore $1 - nL > -epsiloncdot n$



Therefore $1 < n(epsilon - L)$



Choose $epsilon = 1/n$



Therefore $nL < 2$



Therefore $L < 2/n$ for all $ngeq N$



By Archimedean property, we know that this only holds when $L = 0$.
Hence the sequence converges to $0$, by uniqueness of convergence the sequence does not converge to any $L > 0$.



My issue with this proof is that when I choose $epsilon = 1/n$, technically $epsilon$ is changing for every choice of $N$. Is this still a valid proof?







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    Let $epsilon > 0$



    $|1/n - L| < epsilon$ for some $ngeq N$. (definition of convergence)



    This implies $-epsiloncdot n < 1 - nL < epsiloncdot n$



    Therefore $1 - nL > -epsiloncdot n$



    Therefore $1 < n(epsilon - L)$



    Choose $epsilon = 1/n$



    Therefore $nL < 2$



    Therefore $L < 2/n$ for all $ngeq N$



    By Archimedean property, we know that this only holds when $L = 0$.
    Hence the sequence converges to $0$, by uniqueness of convergence the sequence does not converge to any $L > 0$.



    My issue with this proof is that when I choose $epsilon = 1/n$, technically $epsilon$ is changing for every choice of $N$. Is this still a valid proof?







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      Let $epsilon > 0$



      $|1/n - L| < epsilon$ for some $ngeq N$. (definition of convergence)



      This implies $-epsiloncdot n < 1 - nL < epsiloncdot n$



      Therefore $1 - nL > -epsiloncdot n$



      Therefore $1 < n(epsilon - L)$



      Choose $epsilon = 1/n$



      Therefore $nL < 2$



      Therefore $L < 2/n$ for all $ngeq N$



      By Archimedean property, we know that this only holds when $L = 0$.
      Hence the sequence converges to $0$, by uniqueness of convergence the sequence does not converge to any $L > 0$.



      My issue with this proof is that when I choose $epsilon = 1/n$, technically $epsilon$ is changing for every choice of $N$. Is this still a valid proof?







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      Let $epsilon > 0$



      $|1/n - L| < epsilon$ for some $ngeq N$. (definition of convergence)



      This implies $-epsiloncdot n < 1 - nL < epsiloncdot n$



      Therefore $1 - nL > -epsiloncdot n$



      Therefore $1 < n(epsilon - L)$



      Choose $epsilon = 1/n$



      Therefore $nL < 2$



      Therefore $L < 2/n$ for all $ngeq N$



      By Archimedean property, we know that this only holds when $L = 0$.
      Hence the sequence converges to $0$, by uniqueness of convergence the sequence does not converge to any $L > 0$.



      My issue with this proof is that when I choose $epsilon = 1/n$, technically $epsilon$ is changing for every choice of $N$. Is this still a valid proof?









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          Since you are attempting to prove, by the definition, that the sequence does not converge (to $L$, when $Lneq0$), you are supposed to fix a $varepsilon>0$. But $varepsilon$ should be a fixed number neverthelsss.



          Take $varepsilon=fraclvert Lrvert2$ and let $Ninmathbb N$. You want to prove that there's a $ngeqslant N$ such that $leftlvertfrac1n-LrightrvertgeqslantfracL2$. Just take $n$ large enough so that $ngeqslant N$ and also that $frac1n<fracL2$. Thenbeginalignleft|frac1n-Lright|&geqslantleft|frac1n-|L|right|\&=|L|-frac1n\&>|L|-fracL2\&=fracL2.endalign






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            $a_n=1/n>0$, decreasing, bounded below by $0$, hence convergent.



            Since $a_n >0$, $lim_n rightarrow infty a_n=L ge 0$.



            Assume $L>0$.



            Let $epsilon >0$.



            There is a $n_0$, positive integer, s.t. for $n ge n_0$



            $|1/n-L| lt epsilon$, or



            $-epsilon < 1/n -L < epsilon$



            $-epsilon +L < 1/n$.



            Choose $epsilon =L/2$ (for example),



            then $L/2 <1/n$.



            Archimedean principle:



            There is a $n_1$, positive integer, s.t.



            $n_1>2/L$.



            For $n > m=: max(n_0, n_1)$:



            $L/2 > 1/m ge 1/n$,



            contradiction.



            Hence $L=0$.






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              Since you are attempting to prove, by the definition, that the sequence does not converge (to $L$, when $Lneq0$), you are supposed to fix a $varepsilon>0$. But $varepsilon$ should be a fixed number neverthelsss.



              Take $varepsilon=fraclvert Lrvert2$ and let $Ninmathbb N$. You want to prove that there's a $ngeqslant N$ such that $leftlvertfrac1n-LrightrvertgeqslantfracL2$. Just take $n$ large enough so that $ngeqslant N$ and also that $frac1n<fracL2$. Thenbeginalignleft|frac1n-Lright|&geqslantleft|frac1n-|L|right|\&=|L|-frac1n\&>|L|-fracL2\&=fracL2.endalign






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                Since you are attempting to prove, by the definition, that the sequence does not converge (to $L$, when $Lneq0$), you are supposed to fix a $varepsilon>0$. But $varepsilon$ should be a fixed number neverthelsss.



                Take $varepsilon=fraclvert Lrvert2$ and let $Ninmathbb N$. You want to prove that there's a $ngeqslant N$ such that $leftlvertfrac1n-LrightrvertgeqslantfracL2$. Just take $n$ large enough so that $ngeqslant N$ and also that $frac1n<fracL2$. Thenbeginalignleft|frac1n-Lright|&geqslantleft|frac1n-|L|right|\&=|L|-frac1n\&>|L|-fracL2\&=fracL2.endalign






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                  Since you are attempting to prove, by the definition, that the sequence does not converge (to $L$, when $Lneq0$), you are supposed to fix a $varepsilon>0$. But $varepsilon$ should be a fixed number neverthelsss.



                  Take $varepsilon=fraclvert Lrvert2$ and let $Ninmathbb N$. You want to prove that there's a $ngeqslant N$ such that $leftlvertfrac1n-LrightrvertgeqslantfracL2$. Just take $n$ large enough so that $ngeqslant N$ and also that $frac1n<fracL2$. Thenbeginalignleft|frac1n-Lright|&geqslantleft|frac1n-|L|right|\&=|L|-frac1n\&>|L|-fracL2\&=fracL2.endalign






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                  Since you are attempting to prove, by the definition, that the sequence does not converge (to $L$, when $Lneq0$), you are supposed to fix a $varepsilon>0$. But $varepsilon$ should be a fixed number neverthelsss.



                  Take $varepsilon=fraclvert Lrvert2$ and let $Ninmathbb N$. You want to prove that there's a $ngeqslant N$ such that $leftlvertfrac1n-LrightrvertgeqslantfracL2$. Just take $n$ large enough so that $ngeqslant N$ and also that $frac1n<fracL2$. Thenbeginalignleft|frac1n-Lright|&geqslantleft|frac1n-|L|right|\&=|L|-frac1n\&>|L|-fracL2\&=fracL2.endalign







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                      $a_n=1/n>0$, decreasing, bounded below by $0$, hence convergent.



                      Since $a_n >0$, $lim_n rightarrow infty a_n=L ge 0$.



                      Assume $L>0$.



                      Let $epsilon >0$.



                      There is a $n_0$, positive integer, s.t. for $n ge n_0$



                      $|1/n-L| lt epsilon$, or



                      $-epsilon < 1/n -L < epsilon$



                      $-epsilon +L < 1/n$.



                      Choose $epsilon =L/2$ (for example),



                      then $L/2 <1/n$.



                      Archimedean principle:



                      There is a $n_1$, positive integer, s.t.



                      $n_1>2/L$.



                      For $n > m=: max(n_0, n_1)$:



                      $L/2 > 1/m ge 1/n$,



                      contradiction.



                      Hence $L=0$.






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                        $a_n=1/n>0$, decreasing, bounded below by $0$, hence convergent.



                        Since $a_n >0$, $lim_n rightarrow infty a_n=L ge 0$.



                        Assume $L>0$.



                        Let $epsilon >0$.



                        There is a $n_0$, positive integer, s.t. for $n ge n_0$



                        $|1/n-L| lt epsilon$, or



                        $-epsilon < 1/n -L < epsilon$



                        $-epsilon +L < 1/n$.



                        Choose $epsilon =L/2$ (for example),



                        then $L/2 <1/n$.



                        Archimedean principle:



                        There is a $n_1$, positive integer, s.t.



                        $n_1>2/L$.



                        For $n > m=: max(n_0, n_1)$:



                        $L/2 > 1/m ge 1/n$,



                        contradiction.



                        Hence $L=0$.






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                          $a_n=1/n>0$, decreasing, bounded below by $0$, hence convergent.



                          Since $a_n >0$, $lim_n rightarrow infty a_n=L ge 0$.



                          Assume $L>0$.



                          Let $epsilon >0$.



                          There is a $n_0$, positive integer, s.t. for $n ge n_0$



                          $|1/n-L| lt epsilon$, or



                          $-epsilon < 1/n -L < epsilon$



                          $-epsilon +L < 1/n$.



                          Choose $epsilon =L/2$ (for example),



                          then $L/2 <1/n$.



                          Archimedean principle:



                          There is a $n_1$, positive integer, s.t.



                          $n_1>2/L$.



                          For $n > m=: max(n_0, n_1)$:



                          $L/2 > 1/m ge 1/n$,



                          contradiction.



                          Hence $L=0$.






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                          $a_n=1/n>0$, decreasing, bounded below by $0$, hence convergent.



                          Since $a_n >0$, $lim_n rightarrow infty a_n=L ge 0$.



                          Assume $L>0$.



                          Let $epsilon >0$.



                          There is a $n_0$, positive integer, s.t. for $n ge n_0$



                          $|1/n-L| lt epsilon$, or



                          $-epsilon < 1/n -L < epsilon$



                          $-epsilon +L < 1/n$.



                          Choose $epsilon =L/2$ (for example),



                          then $L/2 <1/n$.



                          Archimedean principle:



                          There is a $n_1$, positive integer, s.t.



                          $n_1>2/L$.



                          For $n > m=: max(n_0, n_1)$:



                          $L/2 > 1/m ge 1/n$,



                          contradiction.



                          Hence $L=0$.







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