What is the largest optimal stopping time, and what are the “in-between” times?

The name of the pictureThe name of the pictureThe name of the pictureClash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP











up vote
1
down vote

favorite












Given an adapted process $X_t$ and it's Snell envelope $S_t$, I know that the smallest optimal stopping time is to stop as soon as the Snell envelope equals $X$. This is very intuitive and makes perfect sense. You could explain it to a kid.



However, I have a hard time grasping any other stopping time, such as the "largest" stopping time.



What is an "informal" description of such other stopping times (take e.g. the largest one). How would you describe it in words?



Could you give an example?







share|cite|improve this question




















  • When you say 'optimal', that implies that there is some objective that you are trying to optimize. What is that objective?
    – Ben Derrett
    Aug 19 at 10:42










  • The objective is to maximize the expectation of $X$ relative to stopping times. So e.g. $max_nu E X_nu$ where $nu$ are stopping times. For an optimal stopping time $nu*$, we have $max_nu E X_nu = E X_nu *$.
    – nemesis
    Aug 19 at 10:44















up vote
1
down vote

favorite












Given an adapted process $X_t$ and it's Snell envelope $S_t$, I know that the smallest optimal stopping time is to stop as soon as the Snell envelope equals $X$. This is very intuitive and makes perfect sense. You could explain it to a kid.



However, I have a hard time grasping any other stopping time, such as the "largest" stopping time.



What is an "informal" description of such other stopping times (take e.g. the largest one). How would you describe it in words?



Could you give an example?







share|cite|improve this question




















  • When you say 'optimal', that implies that there is some objective that you are trying to optimize. What is that objective?
    – Ben Derrett
    Aug 19 at 10:42










  • The objective is to maximize the expectation of $X$ relative to stopping times. So e.g. $max_nu E X_nu$ where $nu$ are stopping times. For an optimal stopping time $nu*$, we have $max_nu E X_nu = E X_nu *$.
    – nemesis
    Aug 19 at 10:44













up vote
1
down vote

favorite









up vote
1
down vote

favorite











Given an adapted process $X_t$ and it's Snell envelope $S_t$, I know that the smallest optimal stopping time is to stop as soon as the Snell envelope equals $X$. This is very intuitive and makes perfect sense. You could explain it to a kid.



However, I have a hard time grasping any other stopping time, such as the "largest" stopping time.



What is an "informal" description of such other stopping times (take e.g. the largest one). How would you describe it in words?



Could you give an example?







share|cite|improve this question












Given an adapted process $X_t$ and it's Snell envelope $S_t$, I know that the smallest optimal stopping time is to stop as soon as the Snell envelope equals $X$. This is very intuitive and makes perfect sense. You could explain it to a kid.



However, I have a hard time grasping any other stopping time, such as the "largest" stopping time.



What is an "informal" description of such other stopping times (take e.g. the largest one). How would you describe it in words?



Could you give an example?









share|cite|improve this question











share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question










asked Aug 19 at 10:33









nemesis

82




82











  • When you say 'optimal', that implies that there is some objective that you are trying to optimize. What is that objective?
    – Ben Derrett
    Aug 19 at 10:42










  • The objective is to maximize the expectation of $X$ relative to stopping times. So e.g. $max_nu E X_nu$ where $nu$ are stopping times. For an optimal stopping time $nu*$, we have $max_nu E X_nu = E X_nu *$.
    – nemesis
    Aug 19 at 10:44

















  • When you say 'optimal', that implies that there is some objective that you are trying to optimize. What is that objective?
    – Ben Derrett
    Aug 19 at 10:42










  • The objective is to maximize the expectation of $X$ relative to stopping times. So e.g. $max_nu E X_nu$ where $nu$ are stopping times. For an optimal stopping time $nu*$, we have $max_nu E X_nu = E X_nu *$.
    – nemesis
    Aug 19 at 10:44
















When you say 'optimal', that implies that there is some objective that you are trying to optimize. What is that objective?
– Ben Derrett
Aug 19 at 10:42




When you say 'optimal', that implies that there is some objective that you are trying to optimize. What is that objective?
– Ben Derrett
Aug 19 at 10:42












The objective is to maximize the expectation of $X$ relative to stopping times. So e.g. $max_nu E X_nu$ where $nu$ are stopping times. For an optimal stopping time $nu*$, we have $max_nu E X_nu = E X_nu *$.
– nemesis
Aug 19 at 10:44





The objective is to maximize the expectation of $X$ relative to stopping times. So e.g. $max_nu E X_nu$ where $nu$ are stopping times. For an optimal stopping time $nu*$, we have $max_nu E X_nu = E X_nu *$.
– nemesis
Aug 19 at 10:44











1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes

















up vote
1
down vote



accepted










Suppose that the problem is formulated in discrete time and that you wish to choose the largest optimal stopping time $nu_*$. Informally, the stopping time $nu_*$ can be described as follows. Start at time 0 and denote the current time by $t$. If $X_t < S_t$, continue to the next timestep. Otherwise, since $S$ dominates $X$, $X_t = S_t$. If $mathbbE_t[S_t+1]=S_t$, continue to the next timestep, otherwise stop.






share|cite|improve this answer




















  • Okay, so the Snell envelope $S_t$ equals the maximum of either $X_t$ or $E_t S_t+1$. If they are all equal, i.e. $S_t = X_t = E_t S_t+1$, only then is it still optimal to continue, but if we only have the first equality, then we must stop?
    – nemesis
    Aug 19 at 11:50











  • @nemesis, yes, that's right
    – Ben Derrett
    Aug 19 at 12:00










Your Answer




StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function ()
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function ()
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix)
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
);
);
, "mathjax-editing");

StackExchange.ready(function()
var channelOptions =
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
;
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
createEditor();
);

else
createEditor();

);

function createEditor()
StackExchange.prepareEditor(
heartbeatType: 'answer',
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: false,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
);



);








 

draft saved


draft discarded


















StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2887576%2fwhat-is-the-largest-optimal-stopping-time-and-what-are-the-in-between-times%23new-answer', 'question_page');

);

Post as a guest






























1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes








1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes








up vote
1
down vote



accepted










Suppose that the problem is formulated in discrete time and that you wish to choose the largest optimal stopping time $nu_*$. Informally, the stopping time $nu_*$ can be described as follows. Start at time 0 and denote the current time by $t$. If $X_t < S_t$, continue to the next timestep. Otherwise, since $S$ dominates $X$, $X_t = S_t$. If $mathbbE_t[S_t+1]=S_t$, continue to the next timestep, otherwise stop.






share|cite|improve this answer




















  • Okay, so the Snell envelope $S_t$ equals the maximum of either $X_t$ or $E_t S_t+1$. If they are all equal, i.e. $S_t = X_t = E_t S_t+1$, only then is it still optimal to continue, but if we only have the first equality, then we must stop?
    – nemesis
    Aug 19 at 11:50











  • @nemesis, yes, that's right
    – Ben Derrett
    Aug 19 at 12:00














up vote
1
down vote



accepted










Suppose that the problem is formulated in discrete time and that you wish to choose the largest optimal stopping time $nu_*$. Informally, the stopping time $nu_*$ can be described as follows. Start at time 0 and denote the current time by $t$. If $X_t < S_t$, continue to the next timestep. Otherwise, since $S$ dominates $X$, $X_t = S_t$. If $mathbbE_t[S_t+1]=S_t$, continue to the next timestep, otherwise stop.






share|cite|improve this answer




















  • Okay, so the Snell envelope $S_t$ equals the maximum of either $X_t$ or $E_t S_t+1$. If they are all equal, i.e. $S_t = X_t = E_t S_t+1$, only then is it still optimal to continue, but if we only have the first equality, then we must stop?
    – nemesis
    Aug 19 at 11:50











  • @nemesis, yes, that's right
    – Ben Derrett
    Aug 19 at 12:00












up vote
1
down vote



accepted







up vote
1
down vote



accepted






Suppose that the problem is formulated in discrete time and that you wish to choose the largest optimal stopping time $nu_*$. Informally, the stopping time $nu_*$ can be described as follows. Start at time 0 and denote the current time by $t$. If $X_t < S_t$, continue to the next timestep. Otherwise, since $S$ dominates $X$, $X_t = S_t$. If $mathbbE_t[S_t+1]=S_t$, continue to the next timestep, otherwise stop.






share|cite|improve this answer












Suppose that the problem is formulated in discrete time and that you wish to choose the largest optimal stopping time $nu_*$. Informally, the stopping time $nu_*$ can be described as follows. Start at time 0 and denote the current time by $t$. If $X_t < S_t$, continue to the next timestep. Otherwise, since $S$ dominates $X$, $X_t = S_t$. If $mathbbE_t[S_t+1]=S_t$, continue to the next timestep, otherwise stop.







share|cite|improve this answer












share|cite|improve this answer



share|cite|improve this answer










answered Aug 19 at 11:29









Ben Derrett

2,5521541




2,5521541











  • Okay, so the Snell envelope $S_t$ equals the maximum of either $X_t$ or $E_t S_t+1$. If they are all equal, i.e. $S_t = X_t = E_t S_t+1$, only then is it still optimal to continue, but if we only have the first equality, then we must stop?
    – nemesis
    Aug 19 at 11:50











  • @nemesis, yes, that's right
    – Ben Derrett
    Aug 19 at 12:00
















  • Okay, so the Snell envelope $S_t$ equals the maximum of either $X_t$ or $E_t S_t+1$. If they are all equal, i.e. $S_t = X_t = E_t S_t+1$, only then is it still optimal to continue, but if we only have the first equality, then we must stop?
    – nemesis
    Aug 19 at 11:50











  • @nemesis, yes, that's right
    – Ben Derrett
    Aug 19 at 12:00















Okay, so the Snell envelope $S_t$ equals the maximum of either $X_t$ or $E_t S_t+1$. If they are all equal, i.e. $S_t = X_t = E_t S_t+1$, only then is it still optimal to continue, but if we only have the first equality, then we must stop?
– nemesis
Aug 19 at 11:50





Okay, so the Snell envelope $S_t$ equals the maximum of either $X_t$ or $E_t S_t+1$. If they are all equal, i.e. $S_t = X_t = E_t S_t+1$, only then is it still optimal to continue, but if we only have the first equality, then we must stop?
– nemesis
Aug 19 at 11:50













@nemesis, yes, that's right
– Ben Derrett
Aug 19 at 12:00




@nemesis, yes, that's right
– Ben Derrett
Aug 19 at 12:00












 

draft saved


draft discarded


























 


draft saved


draft discarded














StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2887576%2fwhat-is-the-largest-optimal-stopping-time-and-what-are-the-in-between-times%23new-answer', 'question_page');

);

Post as a guest













































































這個網誌中的熱門文章

How to combine Bézier curves to a surface?

Mutual Information Always Non-negative

Why am i infinitely getting the same tweet with the Twitter Search API?