Is there a shorthand for operations like `fromNewtype . f . toNewtype`?

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A pattern that presents itself the more often the more type safety is being introduced via newtype is to project a value (or several values) to a newtype wrapper, do some operations, and then retract the projection. An ubiquitous example is that of Sum and Product monoids:
û x + y = getSum $ Sum x `mappend` Sum y
û 1 + 2
3
I imagine a collection of functions like withSum, withSum2, and so on, may be automagically rolled out for each newtype. Or maybe a parametrized Identity may be created, for use with ApplicativeDo. Or maybe there are some other approaches that I could not think of.
I wonder if there is some prior art or theory around this.
P.S. Â I am unhappy with coerce, for two reasons:
safety  I thought it is not very safe. After being pointed that it is actually safe, I
tried a few things and I could not do anything harmful, because it requires a type annotation
when there is a possibility of ambiguity. For example:û newtype F = F Int deriving Show
û newtype G = G Int deriving Show
û coerce . (mappend (1 :: Sum Int)) . coerce $ F 1 :: G
G 2
û coerce . (mappend (1 :: Product Int)) . coerce $ F 1 :: G
G 1
û coerce . (mappend 1) . coerce $ F 1 :: G
...
⢠Couldn't match representation of type âÂÂa0â with that of âÂÂIntâÂÂ
arising from a use of âÂÂcoerceâÂÂ
...But I would still not welcome
coerce, because it is far too easy to strip a safety label and
shoot someone, once the reaching for it becomes habitual. Imagine that, in a cryptographic
application, there are two values:x :: Prime Intandx' :: Sum Int. I would much rather
typegetPrimeandgetSumevery time I use them, thancoerceeverything and have one day
made a catastrophic mistake.usefulness Â
coercedoes not bring much to the table regarding a shorthand for
certain operations. The leading example of my post, that I repeat here:û getSum $ Sum 1 `mappend` Sum 2
3â Turns into something along the lines of this spiked monster:
û coerce $ mappend @(Sum Integer) (coerce 1) (coerce 2) :: Integer
3â Which is hardly of any benfit.
haskell newtype coerce
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A pattern that presents itself the more often the more type safety is being introduced via newtype is to project a value (or several values) to a newtype wrapper, do some operations, and then retract the projection. An ubiquitous example is that of Sum and Product monoids:
û x + y = getSum $ Sum x `mappend` Sum y
û 1 + 2
3
I imagine a collection of functions like withSum, withSum2, and so on, may be automagically rolled out for each newtype. Or maybe a parametrized Identity may be created, for use with ApplicativeDo. Or maybe there are some other approaches that I could not think of.
I wonder if there is some prior art or theory around this.
P.S. Â I am unhappy with coerce, for two reasons:
safety  I thought it is not very safe. After being pointed that it is actually safe, I
tried a few things and I could not do anything harmful, because it requires a type annotation
when there is a possibility of ambiguity. For example:û newtype F = F Int deriving Show
û newtype G = G Int deriving Show
û coerce . (mappend (1 :: Sum Int)) . coerce $ F 1 :: G
G 2
û coerce . (mappend (1 :: Product Int)) . coerce $ F 1 :: G
G 1
û coerce . (mappend 1) . coerce $ F 1 :: G
...
⢠Couldn't match representation of type âÂÂa0â with that of âÂÂIntâÂÂ
arising from a use of âÂÂcoerceâÂÂ
...But I would still not welcome
coerce, because it is far too easy to strip a safety label and
shoot someone, once the reaching for it becomes habitual. Imagine that, in a cryptographic
application, there are two values:x :: Prime Intandx' :: Sum Int. I would much rather
typegetPrimeandgetSumevery time I use them, thancoerceeverything and have one day
made a catastrophic mistake.usefulness Â
coercedoes not bring much to the table regarding a shorthand for
certain operations. The leading example of my post, that I repeat here:û getSum $ Sum 1 `mappend` Sum 2
3â Turns into something along the lines of this spiked monster:
û coerce $ mappend @(Sum Integer) (coerce 1) (coerce 2) :: Integer
3â Which is hardly of any benfit.
haskell newtype coerce
2
See my answer regarding your criticism ofcoerceas shorthand. You don't coerce the inputs and outputs (that is indeed little if any better than applying newtype constructors/getters); insteadcoercethe function you want to call so it has a different type. As for safety; it's no more or less safe than manually unwrapping. If you want to make that impossible, don't export the newtype constructors, andcoercewon't work either. If you can mess up with coerce, you can also mess up with manual newtype unwrapping.
â Ben
Aug 19 at 9:36
I agree with your uneasiness about coerce -- though coerce won't do anything that you couldn't otherwise do safely. In particular, newtypes are not coercible unless their constructors are in scope. So if you are properly using smart constructors, for example, coerce can't hurt you.
â luqui
Aug 21 at 1:51
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A pattern that presents itself the more often the more type safety is being introduced via newtype is to project a value (or several values) to a newtype wrapper, do some operations, and then retract the projection. An ubiquitous example is that of Sum and Product monoids:
û x + y = getSum $ Sum x `mappend` Sum y
û 1 + 2
3
I imagine a collection of functions like withSum, withSum2, and so on, may be automagically rolled out for each newtype. Or maybe a parametrized Identity may be created, for use with ApplicativeDo. Or maybe there are some other approaches that I could not think of.
I wonder if there is some prior art or theory around this.
P.S. Â I am unhappy with coerce, for two reasons:
safety  I thought it is not very safe. After being pointed that it is actually safe, I
tried a few things and I could not do anything harmful, because it requires a type annotation
when there is a possibility of ambiguity. For example:û newtype F = F Int deriving Show
û newtype G = G Int deriving Show
û coerce . (mappend (1 :: Sum Int)) . coerce $ F 1 :: G
G 2
û coerce . (mappend (1 :: Product Int)) . coerce $ F 1 :: G
G 1
û coerce . (mappend 1) . coerce $ F 1 :: G
...
⢠Couldn't match representation of type âÂÂa0â with that of âÂÂIntâÂÂ
arising from a use of âÂÂcoerceâÂÂ
...But I would still not welcome
coerce, because it is far too easy to strip a safety label and
shoot someone, once the reaching for it becomes habitual. Imagine that, in a cryptographic
application, there are two values:x :: Prime Intandx' :: Sum Int. I would much rather
typegetPrimeandgetSumevery time I use them, thancoerceeverything and have one day
made a catastrophic mistake.usefulness Â
coercedoes not bring much to the table regarding a shorthand for
certain operations. The leading example of my post, that I repeat here:û getSum $ Sum 1 `mappend` Sum 2
3â Turns into something along the lines of this spiked monster:
û coerce $ mappend @(Sum Integer) (coerce 1) (coerce 2) :: Integer
3â Which is hardly of any benfit.
haskell newtype coerce
A pattern that presents itself the more often the more type safety is being introduced via newtype is to project a value (or several values) to a newtype wrapper, do some operations, and then retract the projection. An ubiquitous example is that of Sum and Product monoids:
û x + y = getSum $ Sum x `mappend` Sum y
û 1 + 2
3
I imagine a collection of functions like withSum, withSum2, and so on, may be automagically rolled out for each newtype. Or maybe a parametrized Identity may be created, for use with ApplicativeDo. Or maybe there are some other approaches that I could not think of.
I wonder if there is some prior art or theory around this.
P.S. Â I am unhappy with coerce, for two reasons:
safety  I thought it is not very safe. After being pointed that it is actually safe, I
tried a few things and I could not do anything harmful, because it requires a type annotation
when there is a possibility of ambiguity. For example:û newtype F = F Int deriving Show
û newtype G = G Int deriving Show
û coerce . (mappend (1 :: Sum Int)) . coerce $ F 1 :: G
G 2
û coerce . (mappend (1 :: Product Int)) . coerce $ F 1 :: G
G 1
û coerce . (mappend 1) . coerce $ F 1 :: G
...
⢠Couldn't match representation of type âÂÂa0â with that of âÂÂIntâÂÂ
arising from a use of âÂÂcoerceâÂÂ
...But I would still not welcome
coerce, because it is far too easy to strip a safety label and
shoot someone, once the reaching for it becomes habitual. Imagine that, in a cryptographic
application, there are two values:x :: Prime Intandx' :: Sum Int. I would much rather
typegetPrimeandgetSumevery time I use them, thancoerceeverything and have one day
made a catastrophic mistake.usefulness Â
coercedoes not bring much to the table regarding a shorthand for
certain operations. The leading example of my post, that I repeat here:û getSum $ Sum 1 `mappend` Sum 2
3â Turns into something along the lines of this spiked monster:
û coerce $ mappend @(Sum Integer) (coerce 1) (coerce 2) :: Integer
3â Which is hardly of any benfit.
haskell newtype coerce
edited Aug 19 at 8:01
asked Aug 19 at 6:47
Ignat Insarov
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See my answer regarding your criticism ofcoerceas shorthand. You don't coerce the inputs and outputs (that is indeed little if any better than applying newtype constructors/getters); insteadcoercethe function you want to call so it has a different type. As for safety; it's no more or less safe than manually unwrapping. If you want to make that impossible, don't export the newtype constructors, andcoercewon't work either. If you can mess up with coerce, you can also mess up with manual newtype unwrapping.
â Ben
Aug 19 at 9:36
I agree with your uneasiness about coerce -- though coerce won't do anything that you couldn't otherwise do safely. In particular, newtypes are not coercible unless their constructors are in scope. So if you are properly using smart constructors, for example, coerce can't hurt you.
â luqui
Aug 21 at 1:51
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See my answer regarding your criticism ofcoerceas shorthand. You don't coerce the inputs and outputs (that is indeed little if any better than applying newtype constructors/getters); insteadcoercethe function you want to call so it has a different type. As for safety; it's no more or less safe than manually unwrapping. If you want to make that impossible, don't export the newtype constructors, andcoercewon't work either. If you can mess up with coerce, you can also mess up with manual newtype unwrapping.
â Ben
Aug 19 at 9:36
I agree with your uneasiness about coerce -- though coerce won't do anything that you couldn't otherwise do safely. In particular, newtypes are not coercible unless their constructors are in scope. So if you are properly using smart constructors, for example, coerce can't hurt you.
â luqui
Aug 21 at 1:51
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2
See my answer regarding your criticism of
coerce as shorthand. You don't coerce the inputs and outputs (that is indeed little if any better than applying newtype constructors/getters); instead coerce the function you want to call so it has a different type. As for safety; it's no more or less safe than manually unwrapping. If you want to make that impossible, don't export the newtype constructors, and coerce won't work either. If you can mess up with coerce, you can also mess up with manual newtype unwrapping.â Ben
Aug 19 at 9:36
See my answer regarding your criticism of
coerce as shorthand. You don't coerce the inputs and outputs (that is indeed little if any better than applying newtype constructors/getters); instead coerce the function you want to call so it has a different type. As for safety; it's no more or less safe than manually unwrapping. If you want to make that impossible, don't export the newtype constructors, and coerce won't work either. If you can mess up with coerce, you can also mess up with manual newtype unwrapping.â Ben
Aug 19 at 9:36
I agree with your uneasiness about coerce -- though coerce won't do anything that you couldn't otherwise do safely. In particular, newtypes are not coercible unless their constructors are in scope. So if you are properly using smart constructors, for example, coerce can't hurt you.
â luqui
Aug 21 at 1:51
I agree with your uneasiness about coerce -- though coerce won't do anything that you couldn't otherwise do safely. In particular, newtypes are not coercible unless their constructors are in scope. So if you are properly using smart constructors, for example, coerce can't hurt you.
â luqui
Aug 21 at 1:51
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Your "spiked monster" example is better handled by putting the summands into a list and using the ala function available here, which has type:
ala :: (Coercible a b, Coercible a' b')
=> (a -> b)
-> ((a -> b) -> c -> b')
-> c
-> a'
where
ais the unwrapped base type.bis the newtype that wrapsa.a -> bis the newtype constructor.((a -> b) -> c -> b')is a function that, knowing how to wrap values of the base typea, knows how to process a value of typec(almost always a container ofas) and return a wrapped resultb'. In practice this function is almost alwaysfoldMap.a'the unwrapped final result. The unwrapping is handled byalaitself.
in your case, it would be something like:
ala Sum foldMap [1,2::Integer]
"ala" functions can be implemented through means other than coerce, for example using generics to handle the unwrapping, or even lenses.
1
I'm happy to seecoercible-utilsmentioned here! :) Would you mind changing the link toalato hackage.haskell.org/package/coercible-utils-0.0.0/docs/⦠though? This way it's more clear thatcoercible-utilsis available from Hackage.
â sjakobi
Aug 20 at 17:26
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coerce from Data.Coerce can be pretty great for this sort of thing. You can use it to convert between different types with the same representation (like between a type and a newtype wrapper, or vice versa). For example:
û coerce (3 :: Int) :: Sum Int
Sum getSum = 3
it :: Sum Int
û coerce (3 :: Sum Int) :: Int
3
it :: Int
It was developed to solve the problem that it is cost-free to e.g. convert an Int into a Sum Int by applying Sum, but it isn't necessarily cost-free to e.g convert a [Int] to a [Sum Int] by applying map Sum. The compiler might be able to optimise away the traversal of the list spine from map or it might not, but we know that the same structure in memory can serve as either a [Int] or a [Sum Int], because the list structure doesn't depend on any properties of the elements and the element types have identical representation between those two cases. coerce (plus the role system) allows us to make use of this fact to convert between the two in a way that is guaranteed not to do any runtime work, but still have the compiler check that it's safe to do so:
û coerce [1, 2, 3 :: Int] :: [Sum Int]
[Sum getSum = 1,Sum getSum = 2,Sum getSum = 3]
it :: [Sum Int]
Something that wasn't at all obvious to me at first is that coerce is not limited to coercing "structures"! Because all it's doing is allowing us to substitute types (including parts of compound types) when the representations are identical, it works just as well to coerce code:
û addInt = (+) @ Int
addInt :: Int -> Int -> Int
û let addSum :: Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int
| addSum = coerce addInt
|
addSum :: Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int
û addSum (Sum 3) (Sum 19)
Sum getSum = 22
it :: Sum Int
(In the above example I had to define a monotype version of + because coerce is so generic the type system otherwise doesn't know which version of + I'm asking to coerce to Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int; I could instead have given an inline type signature on the argument to coerce, but that looks less tidy. Often in real usage the context is sufficient to determine the "source" and "target" types of the coerce)
I once wrote a library that provided a few different ways of paramterising types via newtypes, and provided similar APIs with each scheme. The modules implementing the APIs were full of type signatures and foo' = coerce foo style definitions; it felt really nice that I was barely doing any work other than stating the types that I wanted.
Your example (using mappend on Sum to implement addition, without having to explicitly convert back and forth) could look like:
û let (+) :: Int -> Int -> Int
| (+) = coerce (mappend @ (Sum Int))
|
(+) :: Int -> Int -> Int
û 3 + 8
11
it :: Int
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Yes, there's! It's a coerce function from base package. It allows to convert from newtype and to newtype automatically. GHC actually has a big chunk of theory behind coercions.
In relude I called this function under.
ghci> newtype Foo = Foo Bool deriving Show
ghci> under not (Foo True)
Foo False
ghci> newtype Bar = Bar String deriving Show
ghci> under (filter (== 'a')) (Bar "abacaba")
Bar "aaaa"
You can see the whole module here:
- http://hackage.haskell.org/package/relude-0.2.0/docs/Relude-Extra-Newtype.html
It's also possible to implement custom functions for binary operators as well:
ghci> import Data.Coerce
ghci> :set -XScopedTypeVariables
ghci> :set -XTypeApplications
ghci> : via :: forall n a . Coercible a n => (n -> n -> n) -> (a -> a -> a)
ghci
ghci> :
ghci
ghci> via @(Sum Int) @Int (<>) 3 4
7
ghci> viaF @Sum @Int (<>) 3 5
8
I should have mentioned thatcoerceis unsuitable for this purpose, since it defies type safety.
â Ignat Insarov
Aug 19 at 7:13
@IgnatInsarov Why doescoercedefy type safety? Are you sure you're not thinking ofunsafeCoerce?
â David Young
Aug 19 at 7:13
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@IgnatInsarov This is a common misconception.coerceis completely safe. You can'tcoerceinteger to string for example. It's possible withunsafeCoerceonly.
â Shersh
Aug 19 at 7:14
@DavidYoung Not like totally defies. It is just that I do not trust myself with it. See the postscriptum I added to my question.
â Ignat Insarov
Aug 19 at 8:03
@IgnatInsarov It's possible to implement function likevia @Sum @Int (<>) 3 4which results into3 + 4usingcoerce.
â Shersh
Aug 19 at 8:08
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Your "spiked monster" example is better handled by putting the summands into a list and using the ala function available here, which has type:
ala :: (Coercible a b, Coercible a' b')
=> (a -> b)
-> ((a -> b) -> c -> b')
-> c
-> a'
where
ais the unwrapped base type.bis the newtype that wrapsa.a -> bis the newtype constructor.((a -> b) -> c -> b')is a function that, knowing how to wrap values of the base typea, knows how to process a value of typec(almost always a container ofas) and return a wrapped resultb'. In practice this function is almost alwaysfoldMap.a'the unwrapped final result. The unwrapping is handled byalaitself.
in your case, it would be something like:
ala Sum foldMap [1,2::Integer]
"ala" functions can be implemented through means other than coerce, for example using generics to handle the unwrapping, or even lenses.
1
I'm happy to seecoercible-utilsmentioned here! :) Would you mind changing the link toalato hackage.haskell.org/package/coercible-utils-0.0.0/docs/⦠though? This way it's more clear thatcoercible-utilsis available from Hackage.
â sjakobi
Aug 20 at 17:26
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up vote
9
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Your "spiked monster" example is better handled by putting the summands into a list and using the ala function available here, which has type:
ala :: (Coercible a b, Coercible a' b')
=> (a -> b)
-> ((a -> b) -> c -> b')
-> c
-> a'
where
ais the unwrapped base type.bis the newtype that wrapsa.a -> bis the newtype constructor.((a -> b) -> c -> b')is a function that, knowing how to wrap values of the base typea, knows how to process a value of typec(almost always a container ofas) and return a wrapped resultb'. In practice this function is almost alwaysfoldMap.a'the unwrapped final result. The unwrapping is handled byalaitself.
in your case, it would be something like:
ala Sum foldMap [1,2::Integer]
"ala" functions can be implemented through means other than coerce, for example using generics to handle the unwrapping, or even lenses.
1
I'm happy to seecoercible-utilsmentioned here! :) Would you mind changing the link toalato hackage.haskell.org/package/coercible-utils-0.0.0/docs/⦠though? This way it's more clear thatcoercible-utilsis available from Hackage.
â sjakobi
Aug 20 at 17:26
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Your "spiked monster" example is better handled by putting the summands into a list and using the ala function available here, which has type:
ala :: (Coercible a b, Coercible a' b')
=> (a -> b)
-> ((a -> b) -> c -> b')
-> c
-> a'
where
ais the unwrapped base type.bis the newtype that wrapsa.a -> bis the newtype constructor.((a -> b) -> c -> b')is a function that, knowing how to wrap values of the base typea, knows how to process a value of typec(almost always a container ofas) and return a wrapped resultb'. In practice this function is almost alwaysfoldMap.a'the unwrapped final result. The unwrapping is handled byalaitself.
in your case, it would be something like:
ala Sum foldMap [1,2::Integer]
"ala" functions can be implemented through means other than coerce, for example using generics to handle the unwrapping, or even lenses.
Your "spiked monster" example is better handled by putting the summands into a list and using the ala function available here, which has type:
ala :: (Coercible a b, Coercible a' b')
=> (a -> b)
-> ((a -> b) -> c -> b')
-> c
-> a'
where
ais the unwrapped base type.bis the newtype that wrapsa.a -> bis the newtype constructor.((a -> b) -> c -> b')is a function that, knowing how to wrap values of the base typea, knows how to process a value of typec(almost always a container ofas) and return a wrapped resultb'. In practice this function is almost alwaysfoldMap.a'the unwrapped final result. The unwrapping is handled byalaitself.
in your case, it would be something like:
ala Sum foldMap [1,2::Integer]
"ala" functions can be implemented through means other than coerce, for example using generics to handle the unwrapping, or even lenses.
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I'm happy to seecoercible-utilsmentioned here! :) Would you mind changing the link toalato hackage.haskell.org/package/coercible-utils-0.0.0/docs/⦠though? This way it's more clear thatcoercible-utilsis available from Hackage.
â sjakobi
Aug 20 at 17:26
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I'm happy to seecoercible-utilsmentioned here! :) Would you mind changing the link toalato hackage.haskell.org/package/coercible-utils-0.0.0/docs/⦠though? This way it's more clear thatcoercible-utilsis available from Hackage.
â sjakobi
Aug 20 at 17:26
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1
I'm happy to see
coercible-utils mentioned here! :) Would you mind changing the link to ala to hackage.haskell.org/package/coercible-utils-0.0.0/docs/⦠though? This way it's more clear that coercible-utils is available from Hackage.â sjakobi
Aug 20 at 17:26
I'm happy to see
coercible-utils mentioned here! :) Would you mind changing the link to ala to hackage.haskell.org/package/coercible-utils-0.0.0/docs/⦠though? This way it's more clear that coercible-utils is available from Hackage.â sjakobi
Aug 20 at 17:26
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coerce from Data.Coerce can be pretty great for this sort of thing. You can use it to convert between different types with the same representation (like between a type and a newtype wrapper, or vice versa). For example:
û coerce (3 :: Int) :: Sum Int
Sum getSum = 3
it :: Sum Int
û coerce (3 :: Sum Int) :: Int
3
it :: Int
It was developed to solve the problem that it is cost-free to e.g. convert an Int into a Sum Int by applying Sum, but it isn't necessarily cost-free to e.g convert a [Int] to a [Sum Int] by applying map Sum. The compiler might be able to optimise away the traversal of the list spine from map or it might not, but we know that the same structure in memory can serve as either a [Int] or a [Sum Int], because the list structure doesn't depend on any properties of the elements and the element types have identical representation between those two cases. coerce (plus the role system) allows us to make use of this fact to convert between the two in a way that is guaranteed not to do any runtime work, but still have the compiler check that it's safe to do so:
û coerce [1, 2, 3 :: Int] :: [Sum Int]
[Sum getSum = 1,Sum getSum = 2,Sum getSum = 3]
it :: [Sum Int]
Something that wasn't at all obvious to me at first is that coerce is not limited to coercing "structures"! Because all it's doing is allowing us to substitute types (including parts of compound types) when the representations are identical, it works just as well to coerce code:
û addInt = (+) @ Int
addInt :: Int -> Int -> Int
û let addSum :: Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int
| addSum = coerce addInt
|
addSum :: Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int
û addSum (Sum 3) (Sum 19)
Sum getSum = 22
it :: Sum Int
(In the above example I had to define a monotype version of + because coerce is so generic the type system otherwise doesn't know which version of + I'm asking to coerce to Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int; I could instead have given an inline type signature on the argument to coerce, but that looks less tidy. Often in real usage the context is sufficient to determine the "source" and "target" types of the coerce)
I once wrote a library that provided a few different ways of paramterising types via newtypes, and provided similar APIs with each scheme. The modules implementing the APIs were full of type signatures and foo' = coerce foo style definitions; it felt really nice that I was barely doing any work other than stating the types that I wanted.
Your example (using mappend on Sum to implement addition, without having to explicitly convert back and forth) could look like:
û let (+) :: Int -> Int -> Int
| (+) = coerce (mappend @ (Sum Int))
|
(+) :: Int -> Int -> Int
û 3 + 8
11
it :: Int
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coerce from Data.Coerce can be pretty great for this sort of thing. You can use it to convert between different types with the same representation (like between a type and a newtype wrapper, or vice versa). For example:
û coerce (3 :: Int) :: Sum Int
Sum getSum = 3
it :: Sum Int
û coerce (3 :: Sum Int) :: Int
3
it :: Int
It was developed to solve the problem that it is cost-free to e.g. convert an Int into a Sum Int by applying Sum, but it isn't necessarily cost-free to e.g convert a [Int] to a [Sum Int] by applying map Sum. The compiler might be able to optimise away the traversal of the list spine from map or it might not, but we know that the same structure in memory can serve as either a [Int] or a [Sum Int], because the list structure doesn't depend on any properties of the elements and the element types have identical representation between those two cases. coerce (plus the role system) allows us to make use of this fact to convert between the two in a way that is guaranteed not to do any runtime work, but still have the compiler check that it's safe to do so:
û coerce [1, 2, 3 :: Int] :: [Sum Int]
[Sum getSum = 1,Sum getSum = 2,Sum getSum = 3]
it :: [Sum Int]
Something that wasn't at all obvious to me at first is that coerce is not limited to coercing "structures"! Because all it's doing is allowing us to substitute types (including parts of compound types) when the representations are identical, it works just as well to coerce code:
û addInt = (+) @ Int
addInt :: Int -> Int -> Int
û let addSum :: Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int
| addSum = coerce addInt
|
addSum :: Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int
û addSum (Sum 3) (Sum 19)
Sum getSum = 22
it :: Sum Int
(In the above example I had to define a monotype version of + because coerce is so generic the type system otherwise doesn't know which version of + I'm asking to coerce to Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int; I could instead have given an inline type signature on the argument to coerce, but that looks less tidy. Often in real usage the context is sufficient to determine the "source" and "target" types of the coerce)
I once wrote a library that provided a few different ways of paramterising types via newtypes, and provided similar APIs with each scheme. The modules implementing the APIs were full of type signatures and foo' = coerce foo style definitions; it felt really nice that I was barely doing any work other than stating the types that I wanted.
Your example (using mappend on Sum to implement addition, without having to explicitly convert back and forth) could look like:
û let (+) :: Int -> Int -> Int
| (+) = coerce (mappend @ (Sum Int))
|
(+) :: Int -> Int -> Int
û 3 + 8
11
it :: Int
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coerce from Data.Coerce can be pretty great for this sort of thing. You can use it to convert between different types with the same representation (like between a type and a newtype wrapper, or vice versa). For example:
û coerce (3 :: Int) :: Sum Int
Sum getSum = 3
it :: Sum Int
û coerce (3 :: Sum Int) :: Int
3
it :: Int
It was developed to solve the problem that it is cost-free to e.g. convert an Int into a Sum Int by applying Sum, but it isn't necessarily cost-free to e.g convert a [Int] to a [Sum Int] by applying map Sum. The compiler might be able to optimise away the traversal of the list spine from map or it might not, but we know that the same structure in memory can serve as either a [Int] or a [Sum Int], because the list structure doesn't depend on any properties of the elements and the element types have identical representation between those two cases. coerce (plus the role system) allows us to make use of this fact to convert between the two in a way that is guaranteed not to do any runtime work, but still have the compiler check that it's safe to do so:
û coerce [1, 2, 3 :: Int] :: [Sum Int]
[Sum getSum = 1,Sum getSum = 2,Sum getSum = 3]
it :: [Sum Int]
Something that wasn't at all obvious to me at first is that coerce is not limited to coercing "structures"! Because all it's doing is allowing us to substitute types (including parts of compound types) when the representations are identical, it works just as well to coerce code:
û addInt = (+) @ Int
addInt :: Int -> Int -> Int
û let addSum :: Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int
| addSum = coerce addInt
|
addSum :: Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int
û addSum (Sum 3) (Sum 19)
Sum getSum = 22
it :: Sum Int
(In the above example I had to define a monotype version of + because coerce is so generic the type system otherwise doesn't know which version of + I'm asking to coerce to Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int; I could instead have given an inline type signature on the argument to coerce, but that looks less tidy. Often in real usage the context is sufficient to determine the "source" and "target" types of the coerce)
I once wrote a library that provided a few different ways of paramterising types via newtypes, and provided similar APIs with each scheme. The modules implementing the APIs were full of type signatures and foo' = coerce foo style definitions; it felt really nice that I was barely doing any work other than stating the types that I wanted.
Your example (using mappend on Sum to implement addition, without having to explicitly convert back and forth) could look like:
û let (+) :: Int -> Int -> Int
| (+) = coerce (mappend @ (Sum Int))
|
(+) :: Int -> Int -> Int
û 3 + 8
11
it :: Int
coerce from Data.Coerce can be pretty great for this sort of thing. You can use it to convert between different types with the same representation (like between a type and a newtype wrapper, or vice versa). For example:
û coerce (3 :: Int) :: Sum Int
Sum getSum = 3
it :: Sum Int
û coerce (3 :: Sum Int) :: Int
3
it :: Int
It was developed to solve the problem that it is cost-free to e.g. convert an Int into a Sum Int by applying Sum, but it isn't necessarily cost-free to e.g convert a [Int] to a [Sum Int] by applying map Sum. The compiler might be able to optimise away the traversal of the list spine from map or it might not, but we know that the same structure in memory can serve as either a [Int] or a [Sum Int], because the list structure doesn't depend on any properties of the elements and the element types have identical representation between those two cases. coerce (plus the role system) allows us to make use of this fact to convert between the two in a way that is guaranteed not to do any runtime work, but still have the compiler check that it's safe to do so:
û coerce [1, 2, 3 :: Int] :: [Sum Int]
[Sum getSum = 1,Sum getSum = 2,Sum getSum = 3]
it :: [Sum Int]
Something that wasn't at all obvious to me at first is that coerce is not limited to coercing "structures"! Because all it's doing is allowing us to substitute types (including parts of compound types) when the representations are identical, it works just as well to coerce code:
û addInt = (+) @ Int
addInt :: Int -> Int -> Int
û let addSum :: Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int
| addSum = coerce addInt
|
addSum :: Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int
û addSum (Sum 3) (Sum 19)
Sum getSum = 22
it :: Sum Int
(In the above example I had to define a monotype version of + because coerce is so generic the type system otherwise doesn't know which version of + I'm asking to coerce to Sum Int -> Sum Int -> Sum Int; I could instead have given an inline type signature on the argument to coerce, but that looks less tidy. Often in real usage the context is sufficient to determine the "source" and "target" types of the coerce)
I once wrote a library that provided a few different ways of paramterising types via newtypes, and provided similar APIs with each scheme. The modules implementing the APIs were full of type signatures and foo' = coerce foo style definitions; it felt really nice that I was barely doing any work other than stating the types that I wanted.
Your example (using mappend on Sum to implement addition, without having to explicitly convert back and forth) could look like:
û let (+) :: Int -> Int -> Int
| (+) = coerce (mappend @ (Sum Int))
|
(+) :: Int -> Int -> Int
û 3 + 8
11
it :: Int
edited Aug 19 at 7:33
answered Aug 19 at 7:20
Ben
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Yes, there's! It's a coerce function from base package. It allows to convert from newtype and to newtype automatically. GHC actually has a big chunk of theory behind coercions.
In relude I called this function under.
ghci> newtype Foo = Foo Bool deriving Show
ghci> under not (Foo True)
Foo False
ghci> newtype Bar = Bar String deriving Show
ghci> under (filter (== 'a')) (Bar "abacaba")
Bar "aaaa"
You can see the whole module here:
- http://hackage.haskell.org/package/relude-0.2.0/docs/Relude-Extra-Newtype.html
It's also possible to implement custom functions for binary operators as well:
ghci> import Data.Coerce
ghci> :set -XScopedTypeVariables
ghci> :set -XTypeApplications
ghci> : via :: forall n a . Coercible a n => (n -> n -> n) -> (a -> a -> a)
ghci
ghci> :
ghci
ghci> via @(Sum Int) @Int (<>) 3 4
7
ghci> viaF @Sum @Int (<>) 3 5
8
I should have mentioned thatcoerceis unsuitable for this purpose, since it defies type safety.
â Ignat Insarov
Aug 19 at 7:13
@IgnatInsarov Why doescoercedefy type safety? Are you sure you're not thinking ofunsafeCoerce?
â David Young
Aug 19 at 7:13
4
@IgnatInsarov This is a common misconception.coerceis completely safe. You can'tcoerceinteger to string for example. It's possible withunsafeCoerceonly.
â Shersh
Aug 19 at 7:14
@DavidYoung Not like totally defies. It is just that I do not trust myself with it. See the postscriptum I added to my question.
â Ignat Insarov
Aug 19 at 8:03
@IgnatInsarov It's possible to implement function likevia @Sum @Int (<>) 3 4which results into3 + 4usingcoerce.
â Shersh
Aug 19 at 8:08
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up vote
6
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Yes, there's! It's a coerce function from base package. It allows to convert from newtype and to newtype automatically. GHC actually has a big chunk of theory behind coercions.
In relude I called this function under.
ghci> newtype Foo = Foo Bool deriving Show
ghci> under not (Foo True)
Foo False
ghci> newtype Bar = Bar String deriving Show
ghci> under (filter (== 'a')) (Bar "abacaba")
Bar "aaaa"
You can see the whole module here:
- http://hackage.haskell.org/package/relude-0.2.0/docs/Relude-Extra-Newtype.html
It's also possible to implement custom functions for binary operators as well:
ghci> import Data.Coerce
ghci> :set -XScopedTypeVariables
ghci> :set -XTypeApplications
ghci> : via :: forall n a . Coercible a n => (n -> n -> n) -> (a -> a -> a)
ghci
ghci> :
ghci
ghci> via @(Sum Int) @Int (<>) 3 4
7
ghci> viaF @Sum @Int (<>) 3 5
8
I should have mentioned thatcoerceis unsuitable for this purpose, since it defies type safety.
â Ignat Insarov
Aug 19 at 7:13
@IgnatInsarov Why doescoercedefy type safety? Are you sure you're not thinking ofunsafeCoerce?
â David Young
Aug 19 at 7:13
4
@IgnatInsarov This is a common misconception.coerceis completely safe. You can'tcoerceinteger to string for example. It's possible withunsafeCoerceonly.
â Shersh
Aug 19 at 7:14
@DavidYoung Not like totally defies. It is just that I do not trust myself with it. See the postscriptum I added to my question.
â Ignat Insarov
Aug 19 at 8:03
@IgnatInsarov It's possible to implement function likevia @Sum @Int (<>) 3 4which results into3 + 4usingcoerce.
â Shersh
Aug 19 at 8:08
 |Â
show 2 more comments
up vote
6
down vote
up vote
6
down vote
Yes, there's! It's a coerce function from base package. It allows to convert from newtype and to newtype automatically. GHC actually has a big chunk of theory behind coercions.
In relude I called this function under.
ghci> newtype Foo = Foo Bool deriving Show
ghci> under not (Foo True)
Foo False
ghci> newtype Bar = Bar String deriving Show
ghci> under (filter (== 'a')) (Bar "abacaba")
Bar "aaaa"
You can see the whole module here:
- http://hackage.haskell.org/package/relude-0.2.0/docs/Relude-Extra-Newtype.html
It's also possible to implement custom functions for binary operators as well:
ghci> import Data.Coerce
ghci> :set -XScopedTypeVariables
ghci> :set -XTypeApplications
ghci> : via :: forall n a . Coercible a n => (n -> n -> n) -> (a -> a -> a)
ghci
ghci> :
ghci
ghci> via @(Sum Int) @Int (<>) 3 4
7
ghci> viaF @Sum @Int (<>) 3 5
8
Yes, there's! It's a coerce function from base package. It allows to convert from newtype and to newtype automatically. GHC actually has a big chunk of theory behind coercions.
In relude I called this function under.
ghci> newtype Foo = Foo Bool deriving Show
ghci> under not (Foo True)
Foo False
ghci> newtype Bar = Bar String deriving Show
ghci> under (filter (== 'a')) (Bar "abacaba")
Bar "aaaa"
You can see the whole module here:
- http://hackage.haskell.org/package/relude-0.2.0/docs/Relude-Extra-Newtype.html
It's also possible to implement custom functions for binary operators as well:
ghci> import Data.Coerce
ghci> :set -XScopedTypeVariables
ghci> :set -XTypeApplications
ghci> : via :: forall n a . Coercible a n => (n -> n -> n) -> (a -> a -> a)
ghci
ghci> :
ghci
ghci> via @(Sum Int) @Int (<>) 3 4
7
ghci> viaF @Sum @Int (<>) 3 5
8
edited Aug 19 at 15:41
answered Aug 19 at 7:11
Shersh
5,28331439
5,28331439
I should have mentioned thatcoerceis unsuitable for this purpose, since it defies type safety.
â Ignat Insarov
Aug 19 at 7:13
@IgnatInsarov Why doescoercedefy type safety? Are you sure you're not thinking ofunsafeCoerce?
â David Young
Aug 19 at 7:13
4
@IgnatInsarov This is a common misconception.coerceis completely safe. You can'tcoerceinteger to string for example. It's possible withunsafeCoerceonly.
â Shersh
Aug 19 at 7:14
@DavidYoung Not like totally defies. It is just that I do not trust myself with it. See the postscriptum I added to my question.
â Ignat Insarov
Aug 19 at 8:03
@IgnatInsarov It's possible to implement function likevia @Sum @Int (<>) 3 4which results into3 + 4usingcoerce.
â Shersh
Aug 19 at 8:08
 |Â
show 2 more comments
I should have mentioned thatcoerceis unsuitable for this purpose, since it defies type safety.
â Ignat Insarov
Aug 19 at 7:13
@IgnatInsarov Why doescoercedefy type safety? Are you sure you're not thinking ofunsafeCoerce?
â David Young
Aug 19 at 7:13
4
@IgnatInsarov This is a common misconception.coerceis completely safe. You can'tcoerceinteger to string for example. It's possible withunsafeCoerceonly.
â Shersh
Aug 19 at 7:14
@DavidYoung Not like totally defies. It is just that I do not trust myself with it. See the postscriptum I added to my question.
â Ignat Insarov
Aug 19 at 8:03
@IgnatInsarov It's possible to implement function likevia @Sum @Int (<>) 3 4which results into3 + 4usingcoerce.
â Shersh
Aug 19 at 8:08
I should have mentioned that
coerce is unsuitable for this purpose, since it defies type safety.â Ignat Insarov
Aug 19 at 7:13
I should have mentioned that
coerce is unsuitable for this purpose, since it defies type safety.â Ignat Insarov
Aug 19 at 7:13
@IgnatInsarov Why does
coerce defy type safety? Are you sure you're not thinking of unsafeCoerce?â David Young
Aug 19 at 7:13
@IgnatInsarov Why does
coerce defy type safety? Are you sure you're not thinking of unsafeCoerce?â David Young
Aug 19 at 7:13
4
4
@IgnatInsarov This is a common misconception.
coerce is completely safe. You can't coerce integer to string for example. It's possible with unsafeCoerce only.â Shersh
Aug 19 at 7:14
@IgnatInsarov This is a common misconception.
coerce is completely safe. You can't coerce integer to string for example. It's possible with unsafeCoerce only.â Shersh
Aug 19 at 7:14
@DavidYoung Not like totally defies. It is just that I do not trust myself with it. See the postscriptum I added to my question.
â Ignat Insarov
Aug 19 at 8:03
@DavidYoung Not like totally defies. It is just that I do not trust myself with it. See the postscriptum I added to my question.
â Ignat Insarov
Aug 19 at 8:03
@IgnatInsarov It's possible to implement function like
via @Sum @Int (<>) 3 4 which results into 3 + 4 using coerce.â Shersh
Aug 19 at 8:08
@IgnatInsarov It's possible to implement function like
via @Sum @Int (<>) 3 4 which results into 3 + 4 using coerce.â Shersh
Aug 19 at 8:08
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See my answer regarding your criticism of
coerceas shorthand. You don't coerce the inputs and outputs (that is indeed little if any better than applying newtype constructors/getters); insteadcoercethe function you want to call so it has a different type. As for safety; it's no more or less safe than manually unwrapping. If you want to make that impossible, don't export the newtype constructors, andcoercewon't work either. If you can mess up with coerce, you can also mess up with manual newtype unwrapping.â Ben
Aug 19 at 9:36
I agree with your uneasiness about coerce -- though coerce won't do anything that you couldn't otherwise do safely. In particular, newtypes are not coercible unless their constructors are in scope. So if you are properly using smart constructors, for example, coerce can't hurt you.
â luqui
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