What's a correct symbolism for “value that maximizes” [duplicate]

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Given a function $f(x)$, we can normally find $max_i f(i)$. This expression evaluates to the maximum value of $f(x)$. Sometimes, however, what is interesting isn't as much the maximum value itself, but the value at which the function reaches its maximum, whatever that might be:



$$i:f(i)=max_t f(t)$$



In plain English, I want to know who has eaten the most $f$ruit, rather than how much he's eaten.



This is kind of cumbersome, and perhaps needlessly requires a new symbol t. Besides, this isn't entirely correct, as $f(x)$ could very well have more than one maximum:



$$I=i:f(i)=max_tf(t)$$



Is there a nicer way to express this concept?










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  • (In Italian this concept is called "punto estremante", the English Wikipedia article suggests no equivalent phrasing.)
    – badp
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:15










  • Supremum and maximum are not quite the same thing - the supremum can exist when a maximum does not.
    – Thomas Andrews
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:41






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    @ThomasAndrews I am very well aware. Did I make that confusion anywhere in the page?
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    Dec 23 '11 at 0:43














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Math notation for location of the maximum






Given a function $f(x)$, we can normally find $max_i f(i)$. This expression evaluates to the maximum value of $f(x)$. Sometimes, however, what is interesting isn't as much the maximum value itself, but the value at which the function reaches its maximum, whatever that might be:



$$i:f(i)=max_t f(t)$$



In plain English, I want to know who has eaten the most $f$ruit, rather than how much he's eaten.



This is kind of cumbersome, and perhaps needlessly requires a new symbol t. Besides, this isn't entirely correct, as $f(x)$ could very well have more than one maximum:



$$I=i:f(i)=max_tf(t)$$



Is there a nicer way to express this concept?










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marked as duplicate by t.b., Srivatsan, J. M. is not a mathematician, Ilya, Asaf Karagila♦ Dec 23 '11 at 13:25


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  • (In Italian this concept is called "punto estremante", the English Wikipedia article suggests no equivalent phrasing.)
    – badp
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:15










  • Supremum and maximum are not quite the same thing - the supremum can exist when a maximum does not.
    – Thomas Andrews
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:41






  • 1




    @ThomasAndrews I am very well aware. Did I make that confusion anywhere in the page?
    – badp
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:43












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Possible Duplicate:
Math notation for location of the maximum






Given a function $f(x)$, we can normally find $max_i f(i)$. This expression evaluates to the maximum value of $f(x)$. Sometimes, however, what is interesting isn't as much the maximum value itself, but the value at which the function reaches its maximum, whatever that might be:



$$i:f(i)=max_t f(t)$$



In plain English, I want to know who has eaten the most $f$ruit, rather than how much he's eaten.



This is kind of cumbersome, and perhaps needlessly requires a new symbol t. Besides, this isn't entirely correct, as $f(x)$ could very well have more than one maximum:



$$I=i:f(i)=max_tf(t)$$



Is there a nicer way to express this concept?










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Possible Duplicate:
Math notation for location of the maximum






Given a function $f(x)$, we can normally find $max_i f(i)$. This expression evaluates to the maximum value of $f(x)$. Sometimes, however, what is interesting isn't as much the maximum value itself, but the value at which the function reaches its maximum, whatever that might be:



$$i:f(i)=max_t f(t)$$



In plain English, I want to know who has eaten the most $f$ruit, rather than how much he's eaten.



This is kind of cumbersome, and perhaps needlessly requires a new symbol t. Besides, this isn't entirely correct, as $f(x)$ could very well have more than one maximum:



$$I=i:f(i)=max_tf(t)$$



Is there a nicer way to express this concept?







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  • (In Italian this concept is called "punto estremante", the English Wikipedia article suggests no equivalent phrasing.)
    – badp
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:15










  • Supremum and maximum are not quite the same thing - the supremum can exist when a maximum does not.
    – Thomas Andrews
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:41






  • 1




    @ThomasAndrews I am very well aware. Did I make that confusion anywhere in the page?
    – badp
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:43
















  • (In Italian this concept is called "punto estremante", the English Wikipedia article suggests no equivalent phrasing.)
    – badp
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:15










  • Supremum and maximum are not quite the same thing - the supremum can exist when a maximum does not.
    – Thomas Andrews
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:41






  • 1




    @ThomasAndrews I am very well aware. Did I make that confusion anywhere in the page?
    – badp
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:43















(In Italian this concept is called "punto estremante", the English Wikipedia article suggests no equivalent phrasing.)
– badp
Dec 23 '11 at 0:15




(In Italian this concept is called "punto estremante", the English Wikipedia article suggests no equivalent phrasing.)
– badp
Dec 23 '11 at 0:15












Supremum and maximum are not quite the same thing - the supremum can exist when a maximum does not.
– Thomas Andrews
Dec 23 '11 at 0:41




Supremum and maximum are not quite the same thing - the supremum can exist when a maximum does not.
– Thomas Andrews
Dec 23 '11 at 0:41




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@ThomasAndrews I am very well aware. Did I make that confusion anywhere in the page?
– badp
Dec 23 '11 at 0:43




@ThomasAndrews I am very well aware. Did I make that confusion anywhere in the page?
– badp
Dec 23 '11 at 0:43










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Often one writes $displaystyle operatorname*argmax_x f(x)$ for the value of $x$ that maximizes $f(x)$.



(Despite the fact that I have frequently seen that notation for many years, I find that it's not a standard TeX operator name; one cannot type argmax and have it understood by TeX.)






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  • argmax seems to work.
    – badp
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    @badp I believe your edit suggestion was made with good intentions, but I rejected it because it changed the answer too heavily. I suggest you write it as a comment instead, so that Michael can introduce that change if necessary.
    – Srivatsan
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:26






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    @badp : I see that you suggested argmax. Let's try that: $displaystyleargmax_x f(x)$. The subscript $x$ ends up directly below $max$ rather than symmetrically under $operatornameargmax$.
    – Michael Hardy
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:31







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    Wikipedia uses: underset xoperatorname arg,max giving: $underset xoperatorname arg,max $
    – Tom Hale
    Aug 4 '17 at 12:10






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    @TomHale : $uparrow$ (Just in case you missed this.)
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up vote
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Often one writes $displaystyle operatorname*argmax_x f(x)$ for the value of $x$ that maximizes $f(x)$.



(Despite the fact that I have frequently seen that notation for many years, I find that it's not a standard TeX operator name; one cannot type argmax and have it understood by TeX.)






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  • argmax seems to work.
    – badp
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:18







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    @badp I believe your edit suggestion was made with good intentions, but I rejected it because it changed the answer too heavily. I suggest you write it as a comment instead, so that Michael can introduce that change if necessary.
    – Srivatsan
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:26






  • 1




    @badp : I see that you suggested argmax. Let's try that: $displaystyleargmax_x f(x)$. The subscript $x$ ends up directly below $max$ rather than symmetrically under $operatornameargmax$.
    – Michael Hardy
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:31







  • 1




    Wikipedia uses: underset xoperatorname arg,max giving: $underset xoperatorname arg,max $
    – Tom Hale
    Aug 4 '17 at 12:10






  • 1




    @TomHale : $uparrow$ (Just in case you missed this.)
    – Michael Hardy
    Aug 10 '17 at 20:53














up vote
8
down vote



accepted










Often one writes $displaystyle operatorname*argmax_x f(x)$ for the value of $x$ that maximizes $f(x)$.



(Despite the fact that I have frequently seen that notation for many years, I find that it's not a standard TeX operator name; one cannot type argmax and have it understood by TeX.)






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  • argmax seems to work.
    – badp
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:18







  • 1




    @badp I believe your edit suggestion was made with good intentions, but I rejected it because it changed the answer too heavily. I suggest you write it as a comment instead, so that Michael can introduce that change if necessary.
    – Srivatsan
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:26






  • 1




    @badp : I see that you suggested argmax. Let's try that: $displaystyleargmax_x f(x)$. The subscript $x$ ends up directly below $max$ rather than symmetrically under $operatornameargmax$.
    – Michael Hardy
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:31







  • 1




    Wikipedia uses: underset xoperatorname arg,max giving: $underset xoperatorname arg,max $
    – Tom Hale
    Aug 4 '17 at 12:10






  • 1




    @TomHale : $uparrow$ (Just in case you missed this.)
    – Michael Hardy
    Aug 10 '17 at 20:53












up vote
8
down vote



accepted







up vote
8
down vote



accepted






Often one writes $displaystyle operatorname*argmax_x f(x)$ for the value of $x$ that maximizes $f(x)$.



(Despite the fact that I have frequently seen that notation for many years, I find that it's not a standard TeX operator name; one cannot type argmax and have it understood by TeX.)






share|cite|improve this answer














Often one writes $displaystyle operatorname*argmax_x f(x)$ for the value of $x$ that maximizes $f(x)$.



(Despite the fact that I have frequently seen that notation for many years, I find that it's not a standard TeX operator name; one cannot type argmax and have it understood by TeX.)







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  • argmax seems to work.
    – badp
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:18







  • 1




    @badp I believe your edit suggestion was made with good intentions, but I rejected it because it changed the answer too heavily. I suggest you write it as a comment instead, so that Michael can introduce that change if necessary.
    – Srivatsan
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:26






  • 1




    @badp : I see that you suggested argmax. Let's try that: $displaystyleargmax_x f(x)$. The subscript $x$ ends up directly below $max$ rather than symmetrically under $operatornameargmax$.
    – Michael Hardy
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:31







  • 1




    Wikipedia uses: underset xoperatorname arg,max giving: $underset xoperatorname arg,max $
    – Tom Hale
    Aug 4 '17 at 12:10






  • 1




    @TomHale : $uparrow$ (Just in case you missed this.)
    – Michael Hardy
    Aug 10 '17 at 20:53
















  • argmax seems to work.
    – badp
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:18







  • 1




    @badp I believe your edit suggestion was made with good intentions, but I rejected it because it changed the answer too heavily. I suggest you write it as a comment instead, so that Michael can introduce that change if necessary.
    – Srivatsan
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:26






  • 1




    @badp : I see that you suggested argmax. Let's try that: $displaystyleargmax_x f(x)$. The subscript $x$ ends up directly below $max$ rather than symmetrically under $operatornameargmax$.
    – Michael Hardy
    Dec 23 '11 at 0:31







  • 1




    Wikipedia uses: underset xoperatorname arg,max giving: $underset xoperatorname arg,max $
    – Tom Hale
    Aug 4 '17 at 12:10






  • 1




    @TomHale : $uparrow$ (Just in case you missed this.)
    – Michael Hardy
    Aug 10 '17 at 20:53















argmax seems to work.
– badp
Dec 23 '11 at 0:18





argmax seems to work.
– badp
Dec 23 '11 at 0:18





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@badp I believe your edit suggestion was made with good intentions, but I rejected it because it changed the answer too heavily. I suggest you write it as a comment instead, so that Michael can introduce that change if necessary.
– Srivatsan
Dec 23 '11 at 0:26




@badp I believe your edit suggestion was made with good intentions, but I rejected it because it changed the answer too heavily. I suggest you write it as a comment instead, so that Michael can introduce that change if necessary.
– Srivatsan
Dec 23 '11 at 0:26




1




1




@badp : I see that you suggested argmax. Let's try that: $displaystyleargmax_x f(x)$. The subscript $x$ ends up directly below $max$ rather than symmetrically under $operatornameargmax$.
– Michael Hardy
Dec 23 '11 at 0:31





@badp : I see that you suggested argmax. Let's try that: $displaystyleargmax_x f(x)$. The subscript $x$ ends up directly below $max$ rather than symmetrically under $operatornameargmax$.
– Michael Hardy
Dec 23 '11 at 0:31





1




1




Wikipedia uses: underset xoperatorname arg,max giving: $underset xoperatorname arg,max $
– Tom Hale
Aug 4 '17 at 12:10




Wikipedia uses: underset xoperatorname arg,max giving: $underset xoperatorname arg,max $
– Tom Hale
Aug 4 '17 at 12:10




1




1




@TomHale : $uparrow$ (Just in case you missed this.)
– Michael Hardy
Aug 10 '17 at 20:53




@TomHale : $uparrow$ (Just in case you missed this.)
– Michael Hardy
Aug 10 '17 at 20:53


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