Range of $arctan(1+frac1x)$

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Pretty self explanatory. I'm trying to find the range of $$f(x)=arctan(1+frac1x)$$



but in all honesty, I'm not really sure how to proceed. I feel like there is something very silly and obvious I'm missing. I can find the domain fairly easily but how do I go about finding the range without taking its inverse? Is that even possible?



I have the same problem with:



$$f(x)=e^x+sqrtx^2+1$$



In general, how would I go about finding the range? I know I can just take the inverse and find the domain of that, but is that the only way? Thanks!










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    $textRange [f circ g] = f( textRange[ g])$. Let $f=arctan$
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    Sep 8 at 7:51











  • I see that but apparently there is a $fracpi4$ and I'm not sure how that got there.
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 7:54







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    Maybe $textRange[g]$ is $(1, infty)$? That could be the case if $x$ is only allowed to be positive
    – Mark
    Sep 8 at 7:57










  • Ohh I see it. Thanks!
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 8:36














up vote
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Pretty self explanatory. I'm trying to find the range of $$f(x)=arctan(1+frac1x)$$



but in all honesty, I'm not really sure how to proceed. I feel like there is something very silly and obvious I'm missing. I can find the domain fairly easily but how do I go about finding the range without taking its inverse? Is that even possible?



I have the same problem with:



$$f(x)=e^x+sqrtx^2+1$$



In general, how would I go about finding the range? I know I can just take the inverse and find the domain of that, but is that the only way? Thanks!










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    $textRange [f circ g] = f( textRange[ g])$. Let $f=arctan$
    – Mark
    Sep 8 at 7:51











  • I see that but apparently there is a $fracpi4$ and I'm not sure how that got there.
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 7:54







  • 1




    Maybe $textRange[g]$ is $(1, infty)$? That could be the case if $x$ is only allowed to be positive
    – Mark
    Sep 8 at 7:57










  • Ohh I see it. Thanks!
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 8:36












up vote
1
down vote

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up vote
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Pretty self explanatory. I'm trying to find the range of $$f(x)=arctan(1+frac1x)$$



but in all honesty, I'm not really sure how to proceed. I feel like there is something very silly and obvious I'm missing. I can find the domain fairly easily but how do I go about finding the range without taking its inverse? Is that even possible?



I have the same problem with:



$$f(x)=e^x+sqrtx^2+1$$



In general, how would I go about finding the range? I know I can just take the inverse and find the domain of that, but is that the only way? Thanks!










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Pretty self explanatory. I'm trying to find the range of $$f(x)=arctan(1+frac1x)$$



but in all honesty, I'm not really sure how to proceed. I feel like there is something very silly and obvious I'm missing. I can find the domain fairly easily but how do I go about finding the range without taking its inverse? Is that even possible?



I have the same problem with:



$$f(x)=e^x+sqrtx^2+1$$



In general, how would I go about finding the range? I know I can just take the inverse and find the domain of that, but is that the only way? Thanks!







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    $textRange [f circ g] = f( textRange[ g])$. Let $f=arctan$
    – Mark
    Sep 8 at 7:51











  • I see that but apparently there is a $fracpi4$ and I'm not sure how that got there.
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 7:54







  • 1




    Maybe $textRange[g]$ is $(1, infty)$? That could be the case if $x$ is only allowed to be positive
    – Mark
    Sep 8 at 7:57










  • Ohh I see it. Thanks!
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 8:36












  • 1




    $textRange [f circ g] = f( textRange[ g])$. Let $f=arctan$
    – Mark
    Sep 8 at 7:51











  • I see that but apparently there is a $fracpi4$ and I'm not sure how that got there.
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 7:54







  • 1




    Maybe $textRange[g]$ is $(1, infty)$? That could be the case if $x$ is only allowed to be positive
    – Mark
    Sep 8 at 7:57










  • Ohh I see it. Thanks!
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 8:36







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$textRange [f circ g] = f( textRange[ g])$. Let $f=arctan$
– Mark
Sep 8 at 7:51





$textRange [f circ g] = f( textRange[ g])$. Let $f=arctan$
– Mark
Sep 8 at 7:51













I see that but apparently there is a $fracpi4$ and I'm not sure how that got there.
– Future Math person
Sep 8 at 7:54





I see that but apparently there is a $fracpi4$ and I'm not sure how that got there.
– Future Math person
Sep 8 at 7:54





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Maybe $textRange[g]$ is $(1, infty)$? That could be the case if $x$ is only allowed to be positive
– Mark
Sep 8 at 7:57




Maybe $textRange[g]$ is $(1, infty)$? That could be the case if $x$ is only allowed to be positive
– Mark
Sep 8 at 7:57












Ohh I see it. Thanks!
– Future Math person
Sep 8 at 8:36




Ohh I see it. Thanks!
– Future Math person
Sep 8 at 8:36










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At first we need to show the range for $f(x)=1+frac1x$ which is of course $(-infty,infty)setminus1$, indeed



$$y=1+frac1x iff x=frac 1 y-1$$



therefore we can reach any value but not $y=1$.



For the second one we have that $x+sqrtx^2+1>0$ and



  • $lim_xto infty x+sqrtx^2+1=infty$


  • $lim_xto -infty x+sqrtx^2+1=lim_uto infty -u+sqrtu^2+1=lim_uto infty frac-u^2+u^2+1u+sqrtu^2+1=0$


In order to avoid limits note that



$$y=x+sqrtx^2+1 iff (y-x)^2=x^2+1 iff y^2-2xy+x^2=x^2+1 iff x=fracy^2-12y$$






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  • Right. I also know that the range of $arctan(x)$ is from $(-fracpi2,fracpi2)$.
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 7:48











  • @FutureMathperson And for the second at first we need to find the range for $x+sqrtx^2+1$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:49











  • I can't edit your post, but should it not be 0 that is excluded?
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 7:53










  • @FutureMathperson I've edited, of course we can't reach the value 1, indeed $y=1+1/x iff x=1/(y-1)$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:54










  • @FutureMathperson We can reach $0$ for $x=-1$, we can't reach $1$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:55

















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Second is also the same as the first one you need to minimize $x+sqrtx^2+1$ in order to minimize $e^x+sqrtx^2+1$ bcause $e^x$ is monotonic increasing



$$lim_xto infty x+sqrtx^2+1=infty$$
$$lim_xto -infty x+sqrtx^2+1=0$$



$$fracddx(x+sqrtx^2+1)=1+fracxsqrtx^2+1=0$$
$$fracxsqrtx^2+1=-1$$
When $x>0$ this is not possible because LHS is positive and RHS is negative
Let's check when $x<0$



$$x^2=x^2+1$$ gives us $0=1$



Thus $(x+sqrtx^2+1)$ never becomes 0 it is always greater than 0



Thus $$e^(x+sqrtx^2+1)>1$$






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  • How does this imply that the 2nd function is bigger than 1?
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 8:35










  • $$(x+sqrtx^2+1)>0$$ what is $e^0?$
    – Deepesh Meena
    Sep 8 at 8:36










  • I see it now. Thank you :) .
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 8:37










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At first we need to show the range for $f(x)=1+frac1x$ which is of course $(-infty,infty)setminus1$, indeed



$$y=1+frac1x iff x=frac 1 y-1$$



therefore we can reach any value but not $y=1$.



For the second one we have that $x+sqrtx^2+1>0$ and



  • $lim_xto infty x+sqrtx^2+1=infty$


  • $lim_xto -infty x+sqrtx^2+1=lim_uto infty -u+sqrtu^2+1=lim_uto infty frac-u^2+u^2+1u+sqrtu^2+1=0$


In order to avoid limits note that



$$y=x+sqrtx^2+1 iff (y-x)^2=x^2+1 iff y^2-2xy+x^2=x^2+1 iff x=fracy^2-12y$$






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  • Right. I also know that the range of $arctan(x)$ is from $(-fracpi2,fracpi2)$.
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 7:48











  • @FutureMathperson And for the second at first we need to find the range for $x+sqrtx^2+1$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:49











  • I can't edit your post, but should it not be 0 that is excluded?
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 7:53










  • @FutureMathperson I've edited, of course we can't reach the value 1, indeed $y=1+1/x iff x=1/(y-1)$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:54










  • @FutureMathperson We can reach $0$ for $x=-1$, we can't reach $1$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:55














up vote
3
down vote



accepted










At first we need to show the range for $f(x)=1+frac1x$ which is of course $(-infty,infty)setminus1$, indeed



$$y=1+frac1x iff x=frac 1 y-1$$



therefore we can reach any value but not $y=1$.



For the second one we have that $x+sqrtx^2+1>0$ and



  • $lim_xto infty x+sqrtx^2+1=infty$


  • $lim_xto -infty x+sqrtx^2+1=lim_uto infty -u+sqrtu^2+1=lim_uto infty frac-u^2+u^2+1u+sqrtu^2+1=0$


In order to avoid limits note that



$$y=x+sqrtx^2+1 iff (y-x)^2=x^2+1 iff y^2-2xy+x^2=x^2+1 iff x=fracy^2-12y$$






share|cite|improve this answer






















  • Right. I also know that the range of $arctan(x)$ is from $(-fracpi2,fracpi2)$.
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 7:48











  • @FutureMathperson And for the second at first we need to find the range for $x+sqrtx^2+1$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:49











  • I can't edit your post, but should it not be 0 that is excluded?
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 7:53










  • @FutureMathperson I've edited, of course we can't reach the value 1, indeed $y=1+1/x iff x=1/(y-1)$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:54










  • @FutureMathperson We can reach $0$ for $x=-1$, we can't reach $1$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:55












up vote
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up vote
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At first we need to show the range for $f(x)=1+frac1x$ which is of course $(-infty,infty)setminus1$, indeed



$$y=1+frac1x iff x=frac 1 y-1$$



therefore we can reach any value but not $y=1$.



For the second one we have that $x+sqrtx^2+1>0$ and



  • $lim_xto infty x+sqrtx^2+1=infty$


  • $lim_xto -infty x+sqrtx^2+1=lim_uto infty -u+sqrtu^2+1=lim_uto infty frac-u^2+u^2+1u+sqrtu^2+1=0$


In order to avoid limits note that



$$y=x+sqrtx^2+1 iff (y-x)^2=x^2+1 iff y^2-2xy+x^2=x^2+1 iff x=fracy^2-12y$$






share|cite|improve this answer














At first we need to show the range for $f(x)=1+frac1x$ which is of course $(-infty,infty)setminus1$, indeed



$$y=1+frac1x iff x=frac 1 y-1$$



therefore we can reach any value but not $y=1$.



For the second one we have that $x+sqrtx^2+1>0$ and



  • $lim_xto infty x+sqrtx^2+1=infty$


  • $lim_xto -infty x+sqrtx^2+1=lim_uto infty -u+sqrtu^2+1=lim_uto infty frac-u^2+u^2+1u+sqrtu^2+1=0$


In order to avoid limits note that



$$y=x+sqrtx^2+1 iff (y-x)^2=x^2+1 iff y^2-2xy+x^2=x^2+1 iff x=fracy^2-12y$$







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  • Right. I also know that the range of $arctan(x)$ is from $(-fracpi2,fracpi2)$.
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 7:48











  • @FutureMathperson And for the second at first we need to find the range for $x+sqrtx^2+1$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:49











  • I can't edit your post, but should it not be 0 that is excluded?
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 7:53










  • @FutureMathperson I've edited, of course we can't reach the value 1, indeed $y=1+1/x iff x=1/(y-1)$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:54










  • @FutureMathperson We can reach $0$ for $x=-1$, we can't reach $1$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:55
















  • Right. I also know that the range of $arctan(x)$ is from $(-fracpi2,fracpi2)$.
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 7:48











  • @FutureMathperson And for the second at first we need to find the range for $x+sqrtx^2+1$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:49











  • I can't edit your post, but should it not be 0 that is excluded?
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 7:53










  • @FutureMathperson I've edited, of course we can't reach the value 1, indeed $y=1+1/x iff x=1/(y-1)$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:54










  • @FutureMathperson We can reach $0$ for $x=-1$, we can't reach $1$.
    – gimusi
    Sep 8 at 7:55















Right. I also know that the range of $arctan(x)$ is from $(-fracpi2,fracpi2)$.
– Future Math person
Sep 8 at 7:48





Right. I also know that the range of $arctan(x)$ is from $(-fracpi2,fracpi2)$.
– Future Math person
Sep 8 at 7:48













@FutureMathperson And for the second at first we need to find the range for $x+sqrtx^2+1$.
– gimusi
Sep 8 at 7:49





@FutureMathperson And for the second at first we need to find the range for $x+sqrtx^2+1$.
– gimusi
Sep 8 at 7:49













I can't edit your post, but should it not be 0 that is excluded?
– Future Math person
Sep 8 at 7:53




I can't edit your post, but should it not be 0 that is excluded?
– Future Math person
Sep 8 at 7:53












@FutureMathperson I've edited, of course we can't reach the value 1, indeed $y=1+1/x iff x=1/(y-1)$.
– gimusi
Sep 8 at 7:54




@FutureMathperson I've edited, of course we can't reach the value 1, indeed $y=1+1/x iff x=1/(y-1)$.
– gimusi
Sep 8 at 7:54












@FutureMathperson We can reach $0$ for $x=-1$, we can't reach $1$.
– gimusi
Sep 8 at 7:55




@FutureMathperson We can reach $0$ for $x=-1$, we can't reach $1$.
– gimusi
Sep 8 at 7:55










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Second is also the same as the first one you need to minimize $x+sqrtx^2+1$ in order to minimize $e^x+sqrtx^2+1$ bcause $e^x$ is monotonic increasing



$$lim_xto infty x+sqrtx^2+1=infty$$
$$lim_xto -infty x+sqrtx^2+1=0$$



$$fracddx(x+sqrtx^2+1)=1+fracxsqrtx^2+1=0$$
$$fracxsqrtx^2+1=-1$$
When $x>0$ this is not possible because LHS is positive and RHS is negative
Let's check when $x<0$



$$x^2=x^2+1$$ gives us $0=1$



Thus $(x+sqrtx^2+1)$ never becomes 0 it is always greater than 0



Thus $$e^(x+sqrtx^2+1)>1$$






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  • How does this imply that the 2nd function is bigger than 1?
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 8:35










  • $$(x+sqrtx^2+1)>0$$ what is $e^0?$
    – Deepesh Meena
    Sep 8 at 8:36










  • I see it now. Thank you :) .
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 8:37














up vote
1
down vote













Second is also the same as the first one you need to minimize $x+sqrtx^2+1$ in order to minimize $e^x+sqrtx^2+1$ bcause $e^x$ is monotonic increasing



$$lim_xto infty x+sqrtx^2+1=infty$$
$$lim_xto -infty x+sqrtx^2+1=0$$



$$fracddx(x+sqrtx^2+1)=1+fracxsqrtx^2+1=0$$
$$fracxsqrtx^2+1=-1$$
When $x>0$ this is not possible because LHS is positive and RHS is negative
Let's check when $x<0$



$$x^2=x^2+1$$ gives us $0=1$



Thus $(x+sqrtx^2+1)$ never becomes 0 it is always greater than 0



Thus $$e^(x+sqrtx^2+1)>1$$






share|cite|improve this answer




















  • How does this imply that the 2nd function is bigger than 1?
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 8:35










  • $$(x+sqrtx^2+1)>0$$ what is $e^0?$
    – Deepesh Meena
    Sep 8 at 8:36










  • I see it now. Thank you :) .
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 8:37












up vote
1
down vote










up vote
1
down vote









Second is also the same as the first one you need to minimize $x+sqrtx^2+1$ in order to minimize $e^x+sqrtx^2+1$ bcause $e^x$ is monotonic increasing



$$lim_xto infty x+sqrtx^2+1=infty$$
$$lim_xto -infty x+sqrtx^2+1=0$$



$$fracddx(x+sqrtx^2+1)=1+fracxsqrtx^2+1=0$$
$$fracxsqrtx^2+1=-1$$
When $x>0$ this is not possible because LHS is positive and RHS is negative
Let's check when $x<0$



$$x^2=x^2+1$$ gives us $0=1$



Thus $(x+sqrtx^2+1)$ never becomes 0 it is always greater than 0



Thus $$e^(x+sqrtx^2+1)>1$$






share|cite|improve this answer












Second is also the same as the first one you need to minimize $x+sqrtx^2+1$ in order to minimize $e^x+sqrtx^2+1$ bcause $e^x$ is monotonic increasing



$$lim_xto infty x+sqrtx^2+1=infty$$
$$lim_xto -infty x+sqrtx^2+1=0$$



$$fracddx(x+sqrtx^2+1)=1+fracxsqrtx^2+1=0$$
$$fracxsqrtx^2+1=-1$$
When $x>0$ this is not possible because LHS is positive and RHS is negative
Let's check when $x<0$



$$x^2=x^2+1$$ gives us $0=1$



Thus $(x+sqrtx^2+1)$ never becomes 0 it is always greater than 0



Thus $$e^(x+sqrtx^2+1)>1$$







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  • How does this imply that the 2nd function is bigger than 1?
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 8:35










  • $$(x+sqrtx^2+1)>0$$ what is $e^0?$
    – Deepesh Meena
    Sep 8 at 8:36










  • I see it now. Thank you :) .
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 8:37
















  • How does this imply that the 2nd function is bigger than 1?
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 8:35










  • $$(x+sqrtx^2+1)>0$$ what is $e^0?$
    – Deepesh Meena
    Sep 8 at 8:36










  • I see it now. Thank you :) .
    – Future Math person
    Sep 8 at 8:37















How does this imply that the 2nd function is bigger than 1?
– Future Math person
Sep 8 at 8:35




How does this imply that the 2nd function is bigger than 1?
– Future Math person
Sep 8 at 8:35












$$(x+sqrtx^2+1)>0$$ what is $e^0?$
– Deepesh Meena
Sep 8 at 8:36




$$(x+sqrtx^2+1)>0$$ what is $e^0?$
– Deepesh Meena
Sep 8 at 8:36












I see it now. Thank you :) .
– Future Math person
Sep 8 at 8:37




I see it now. Thank you :) .
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Sep 8 at 8:37

















 

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