Help: $ |fraca+1a- (fracxzy^2)^k|leq frac1b$
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In the paper linear forms in the logarithms of real algebraic numbers close to 1, it is written on page $9$ that
On other hand, a short calculation yields
$$ left|fraca+1a- left(fracxzy^2right)^kright|leq frac1b$$
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Here,
$$left(fracxzy^2right)^k= frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2$$ and $ b geq 2, ageq 2^49,kgeq 50 $ (see page $8, 9$).
So, how do we prove the following?
$$ left|fraca+1a- frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|leq frac1b$$
real-analysis inequality proof-explanation
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In the paper linear forms in the logarithms of real algebraic numbers close to 1, it is written on page $9$ that
On other hand, a short calculation yields
$$ left|fraca+1a- left(fracxzy^2right)^kright|leq frac1b$$
Image of the page :-
Here,
$$left(fracxzy^2right)^k= frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2$$ and $ b geq 2, ageq 2^49,kgeq 50 $ (see page $8, 9$).
So, how do we prove the following?
$$ left|fraca+1a- frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|leq frac1b$$
real-analysis inequality proof-explanation
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In the paper linear forms in the logarithms of real algebraic numbers close to 1, it is written on page $9$ that
On other hand, a short calculation yields
$$ left|fraca+1a- left(fracxzy^2right)^kright|leq frac1b$$
Image of the page :-
Here,
$$left(fracxzy^2right)^k= frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2$$ and $ b geq 2, ageq 2^49,kgeq 50 $ (see page $8, 9$).
So, how do we prove the following?
$$ left|fraca+1a- frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|leq frac1b$$
real-analysis inequality proof-explanation
In the paper linear forms in the logarithms of real algebraic numbers close to 1, it is written on page $9$ that
On other hand, a short calculation yields
$$ left|fraca+1a- left(fracxzy^2right)^kright|leq frac1b$$
Image of the page :-
Here,
$$left(fracxzy^2right)^k= frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2$$ and $ b geq 2, ageq 2^49,kgeq 50 $ (see page $8, 9$).
So, how do we prove the following?
$$ left|fraca+1a- frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|leq frac1b$$
real-analysis inequality proof-explanation
real-analysis inequality proof-explanation
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We have, using $bge 2$ and $age 2^49$,
$$beginalignleft|fraca+1a- frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
&=(a+1)left|frac1a- frac(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)left|frac(ab+1)^2-a(ab^2+1)a(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)left|frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2
endalign$$
Here, since
$$ab+1ge ab$$
we have
$$frac1ab+1colorredlefrac1ab$$
Also, we have
$$a+1le fraca^22quadtextandquad 1+a(2b-1)le 2ab$$
Using these gives
$$left|fraca+1a- frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
=(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2le fraca^22cdotfrac2aba(ab)^2=frac 1b$$
When u divide something with big nunber the amount become smaller, I urge u to check/revise last paragraph of your answer
â Mike SQ
Sep 11 at 3:48
@Mike SQ : The last inequality is true since $ab+1ge ab$ implies $frac1ab+1colorredlefrac1ab$. I've added some explanations in my answer.
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 5:50
@Mike SQ : I'm going to give another explanation. After having $(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)alefraca^22cdot frac2aba$, which should be clear, we divide the LHS with larger number $(ab+1)^2$ and divide the RHS with smaller number $(ab)^2$, so we get our last inequality. I hope this helps.
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 6:36
Thanks, I have awarded you the bounty, by the way, have noticed the next line- $$logvarLambda leq - fraclog(b)12$$ I don't get why there is $12$ in denominator, it was supposed to be $logvarLambda leq - log(b)$, why $logvarLambda leq - fraclog(b)12$?
â Mike SQ
Sep 11 at 13:07
@Mike SQ : That is another question. Why don't you ask it as a new question?
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 15:02
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I have got $$left|fraca+1a-frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|=left|frac left( a+1 right) left( 2,ab-a+1 right) a left( ab+1
right) ^2
right|$$
I have compute $$frac14-f(a,b)^2=fracleft(a^3 b^2-2 a^2 b+2 a^2-4 a
b+a-2right) left(a^3 b^2+6 a^2 b-2 a^2+4 a
b+a+2right)4 a^2 (a b+1)^4$$ and this is positive if $$bgeq 2,ageq 2^29$$
Your inequality is right, defining $$f(a,b)=left|frac left( a+1 right) left( 2,ab-a+1 right) a left( ab+1 right) ^2 right|$$ and you must searched for a maximum of $$f(a,b)$$
â Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Sep 8 at 10:37
... need a proof !!! :) I could not find one....
â Mike SQ
Sep 10 at 9:51
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2 Answers
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active
oldest
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
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We have, using $bge 2$ and $age 2^49$,
$$beginalignleft|fraca+1a- frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
&=(a+1)left|frac1a- frac(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)left|frac(ab+1)^2-a(ab^2+1)a(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)left|frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2
endalign$$
Here, since
$$ab+1ge ab$$
we have
$$frac1ab+1colorredlefrac1ab$$
Also, we have
$$a+1le fraca^22quadtextandquad 1+a(2b-1)le 2ab$$
Using these gives
$$left|fraca+1a- frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
=(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2le fraca^22cdotfrac2aba(ab)^2=frac 1b$$
When u divide something with big nunber the amount become smaller, I urge u to check/revise last paragraph of your answer
â Mike SQ
Sep 11 at 3:48
@Mike SQ : The last inequality is true since $ab+1ge ab$ implies $frac1ab+1colorredlefrac1ab$. I've added some explanations in my answer.
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 5:50
@Mike SQ : I'm going to give another explanation. After having $(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)alefraca^22cdot frac2aba$, which should be clear, we divide the LHS with larger number $(ab+1)^2$ and divide the RHS with smaller number $(ab)^2$, so we get our last inequality. I hope this helps.
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 6:36
Thanks, I have awarded you the bounty, by the way, have noticed the next line- $$logvarLambda leq - fraclog(b)12$$ I don't get why there is $12$ in denominator, it was supposed to be $logvarLambda leq - log(b)$, why $logvarLambda leq - fraclog(b)12$?
â Mike SQ
Sep 11 at 13:07
@Mike SQ : That is another question. Why don't you ask it as a new question?
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 15:02
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We have, using $bge 2$ and $age 2^49$,
$$beginalignleft|fraca+1a- frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
&=(a+1)left|frac1a- frac(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)left|frac(ab+1)^2-a(ab^2+1)a(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)left|frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2
endalign$$
Here, since
$$ab+1ge ab$$
we have
$$frac1ab+1colorredlefrac1ab$$
Also, we have
$$a+1le fraca^22quadtextandquad 1+a(2b-1)le 2ab$$
Using these gives
$$left|fraca+1a- frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
=(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2le fraca^22cdotfrac2aba(ab)^2=frac 1b$$
When u divide something with big nunber the amount become smaller, I urge u to check/revise last paragraph of your answer
â Mike SQ
Sep 11 at 3:48
@Mike SQ : The last inequality is true since $ab+1ge ab$ implies $frac1ab+1colorredlefrac1ab$. I've added some explanations in my answer.
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 5:50
@Mike SQ : I'm going to give another explanation. After having $(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)alefraca^22cdot frac2aba$, which should be clear, we divide the LHS with larger number $(ab+1)^2$ and divide the RHS with smaller number $(ab)^2$, so we get our last inequality. I hope this helps.
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 6:36
Thanks, I have awarded you the bounty, by the way, have noticed the next line- $$logvarLambda leq - fraclog(b)12$$ I don't get why there is $12$ in denominator, it was supposed to be $logvarLambda leq - log(b)$, why $logvarLambda leq - fraclog(b)12$?
â Mike SQ
Sep 11 at 13:07
@Mike SQ : That is another question. Why don't you ask it as a new question?
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 15:02
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
We have, using $bge 2$ and $age 2^49$,
$$beginalignleft|fraca+1a- frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
&=(a+1)left|frac1a- frac(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)left|frac(ab+1)^2-a(ab^2+1)a(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)left|frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2
endalign$$
Here, since
$$ab+1ge ab$$
we have
$$frac1ab+1colorredlefrac1ab$$
Also, we have
$$a+1le fraca^22quadtextandquad 1+a(2b-1)le 2ab$$
Using these gives
$$left|fraca+1a- frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
=(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2le fraca^22cdotfrac2aba(ab)^2=frac 1b$$
We have, using $bge 2$ and $age 2^49$,
$$beginalignleft|fraca+1a- frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
&=(a+1)left|frac1a- frac(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)left|frac(ab+1)^2-a(ab^2+1)a(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)left|frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2right|
\\&=(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2
endalign$$
Here, since
$$ab+1ge ab$$
we have
$$frac1ab+1colorredlefrac1ab$$
Also, we have
$$a+1le fraca^22quadtextandquad 1+a(2b-1)le 2ab$$
Using these gives
$$left|fraca+1a- frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|
=(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)a(ab+1)^2le fraca^22cdotfrac2aba(ab)^2=frac 1b$$
edited Sep 11 at 5:49
answered Sep 10 at 10:59
mathlove
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87.7k877209
When u divide something with big nunber the amount become smaller, I urge u to check/revise last paragraph of your answer
â Mike SQ
Sep 11 at 3:48
@Mike SQ : The last inequality is true since $ab+1ge ab$ implies $frac1ab+1colorredlefrac1ab$. I've added some explanations in my answer.
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 5:50
@Mike SQ : I'm going to give another explanation. After having $(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)alefraca^22cdot frac2aba$, which should be clear, we divide the LHS with larger number $(ab+1)^2$ and divide the RHS with smaller number $(ab)^2$, so we get our last inequality. I hope this helps.
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 6:36
Thanks, I have awarded you the bounty, by the way, have noticed the next line- $$logvarLambda leq - fraclog(b)12$$ I don't get why there is $12$ in denominator, it was supposed to be $logvarLambda leq - log(b)$, why $logvarLambda leq - fraclog(b)12$?
â Mike SQ
Sep 11 at 13:07
@Mike SQ : That is another question. Why don't you ask it as a new question?
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 15:02
add a comment |Â
When u divide something with big nunber the amount become smaller, I urge u to check/revise last paragraph of your answer
â Mike SQ
Sep 11 at 3:48
@Mike SQ : The last inequality is true since $ab+1ge ab$ implies $frac1ab+1colorredlefrac1ab$. I've added some explanations in my answer.
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 5:50
@Mike SQ : I'm going to give another explanation. After having $(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)alefraca^22cdot frac2aba$, which should be clear, we divide the LHS with larger number $(ab+1)^2$ and divide the RHS with smaller number $(ab)^2$, so we get our last inequality. I hope this helps.
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 6:36
Thanks, I have awarded you the bounty, by the way, have noticed the next line- $$logvarLambda leq - fraclog(b)12$$ I don't get why there is $12$ in denominator, it was supposed to be $logvarLambda leq - log(b)$, why $logvarLambda leq - fraclog(b)12$?
â Mike SQ
Sep 11 at 13:07
@Mike SQ : That is another question. Why don't you ask it as a new question?
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 15:02
When u divide something with big nunber the amount become smaller, I urge u to check/revise last paragraph of your answer
â Mike SQ
Sep 11 at 3:48
When u divide something with big nunber the amount become smaller, I urge u to check/revise last paragraph of your answer
â Mike SQ
Sep 11 at 3:48
@Mike SQ : The last inequality is true since $ab+1ge ab$ implies $frac1ab+1colorredlefrac1ab$. I've added some explanations in my answer.
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 5:50
@Mike SQ : The last inequality is true since $ab+1ge ab$ implies $frac1ab+1colorredlefrac1ab$. I've added some explanations in my answer.
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 5:50
@Mike SQ : I'm going to give another explanation. After having $(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)alefraca^22cdot frac2aba$, which should be clear, we divide the LHS with larger number $(ab+1)^2$ and divide the RHS with smaller number $(ab)^2$, so we get our last inequality. I hope this helps.
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 6:36
@Mike SQ : I'm going to give another explanation. After having $(a+1)cdot frac1+a(2b-1)alefraca^22cdot frac2aba$, which should be clear, we divide the LHS with larger number $(ab+1)^2$ and divide the RHS with smaller number $(ab)^2$, so we get our last inequality. I hope this helps.
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 6:36
Thanks, I have awarded you the bounty, by the way, have noticed the next line- $$logvarLambda leq - fraclog(b)12$$ I don't get why there is $12$ in denominator, it was supposed to be $logvarLambda leq - log(b)$, why $logvarLambda leq - fraclog(b)12$?
â Mike SQ
Sep 11 at 13:07
Thanks, I have awarded you the bounty, by the way, have noticed the next line- $$logvarLambda leq - fraclog(b)12$$ I don't get why there is $12$ in denominator, it was supposed to be $logvarLambda leq - log(b)$, why $logvarLambda leq - fraclog(b)12$?
â Mike SQ
Sep 11 at 13:07
@Mike SQ : That is another question. Why don't you ask it as a new question?
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 15:02
@Mike SQ : That is another question. Why don't you ask it as a new question?
â mathlove
Sep 11 at 15:02
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
I have got $$left|fraca+1a-frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|=left|frac left( a+1 right) left( 2,ab-a+1 right) a left( ab+1
right) ^2
right|$$
I have compute $$frac14-f(a,b)^2=fracleft(a^3 b^2-2 a^2 b+2 a^2-4 a
b+a-2right) left(a^3 b^2+6 a^2 b-2 a^2+4 a
b+a+2right)4 a^2 (a b+1)^4$$ and this is positive if $$bgeq 2,ageq 2^29$$
Your inequality is right, defining $$f(a,b)=left|frac left( a+1 right) left( 2,ab-a+1 right) a left( ab+1 right) ^2 right|$$ and you must searched for a maximum of $$f(a,b)$$
â Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Sep 8 at 10:37
... need a proof !!! :) I could not find one....
â Mike SQ
Sep 10 at 9:51
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
I have got $$left|fraca+1a-frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|=left|frac left( a+1 right) left( 2,ab-a+1 right) a left( ab+1
right) ^2
right|$$
I have compute $$frac14-f(a,b)^2=fracleft(a^3 b^2-2 a^2 b+2 a^2-4 a
b+a-2right) left(a^3 b^2+6 a^2 b-2 a^2+4 a
b+a+2right)4 a^2 (a b+1)^4$$ and this is positive if $$bgeq 2,ageq 2^29$$
Your inequality is right, defining $$f(a,b)=left|frac left( a+1 right) left( 2,ab-a+1 right) a left( ab+1 right) ^2 right|$$ and you must searched for a maximum of $$f(a,b)$$
â Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Sep 8 at 10:37
... need a proof !!! :) I could not find one....
â Mike SQ
Sep 10 at 9:51
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
I have got $$left|fraca+1a-frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|=left|frac left( a+1 right) left( 2,ab-a+1 right) a left( ab+1
right) ^2
right|$$
I have compute $$frac14-f(a,b)^2=fracleft(a^3 b^2-2 a^2 b+2 a^2-4 a
b+a-2right) left(a^3 b^2+6 a^2 b-2 a^2+4 a
b+a+2right)4 a^2 (a b+1)^4$$ and this is positive if $$bgeq 2,ageq 2^29$$
I have got $$left|fraca+1a-frac(a+1)(ab^2+1)(ab+1)^2right|=left|frac left( a+1 right) left( 2,ab-a+1 right) a left( ab+1
right) ^2
right|$$
I have compute $$frac14-f(a,b)^2=fracleft(a^3 b^2-2 a^2 b+2 a^2-4 a
b+a-2right) left(a^3 b^2+6 a^2 b-2 a^2+4 a
b+a+2right)4 a^2 (a b+1)^4$$ and this is positive if $$bgeq 2,ageq 2^29$$
edited Sep 8 at 10:42
answered Sep 8 at 10:29
Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
69k32761
69k32761
Your inequality is right, defining $$f(a,b)=left|frac left( a+1 right) left( 2,ab-a+1 right) a left( ab+1 right) ^2 right|$$ and you must searched for a maximum of $$f(a,b)$$
â Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Sep 8 at 10:37
... need a proof !!! :) I could not find one....
â Mike SQ
Sep 10 at 9:51
add a comment |Â
Your inequality is right, defining $$f(a,b)=left|frac left( a+1 right) left( 2,ab-a+1 right) a left( ab+1 right) ^2 right|$$ and you must searched for a maximum of $$f(a,b)$$
â Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Sep 8 at 10:37
... need a proof !!! :) I could not find one....
â Mike SQ
Sep 10 at 9:51
Your inequality is right, defining $$f(a,b)=left|frac left( a+1 right) left( 2,ab-a+1 right) a left( ab+1 right) ^2 right|$$ and you must searched for a maximum of $$f(a,b)$$
â Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Sep 8 at 10:37
Your inequality is right, defining $$f(a,b)=left|frac left( a+1 right) left( 2,ab-a+1 right) a left( ab+1 right) ^2 right|$$ and you must searched for a maximum of $$f(a,b)$$
â Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Sep 8 at 10:37
... need a proof !!! :) I could not find one....
â Mike SQ
Sep 10 at 9:51
... need a proof !!! :) I could not find one....
â Mike SQ
Sep 10 at 9:51
add a comment |Â
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