Prove that the Cylinder is a smooth surface and has the following global parametrization.

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First some definitions.
A surface on $R^3$ is a set $Msubset R^3 $with the following properties.
1) For every point on the surface there exist an open nbrhood $V$ for which there exists a $C^infty$, 1-1 and onto function $ÃÂ:U rightarrow Vcap M$ so that the inverse of $ÃÂ$ is continuous for some $U subset R^2$ open.
2) The $DÃÂ$ (jacobian) has maximal degree. $ÃÂ$ is called local parametrization.
Now the problem. Prove that the cylinder $C:x^2+y^2=1$ is a smooth surface globally parametrized by the $ÃÂ(r,ø)=(cos(theta),sin(theta),ln(r))$ . $ ÃÂ: R^2 setminus 0 rightarrow C $.(polar coordinates)
Sollution.
1)First im not given any definition for a smooth surface so i believe if the parametrization is smooth then the surface is too. So since $ÃÂ$ is smooth hence C is smooth.
2)Now i also dont have a definition for a global parametrization so i believe it means ( and correct me please if im wrong) that if i can find an open set $V$ such that $Vcap M=M$ and an $ÃÂ:U rightarrow Vcap M $ that checks the requirements above the $ÃÂ$ is indeed a global parametrization.
Now the given parametrization has a jacobian of degree 2. So it checks that. It is continuous and smooth. it is 1-1 because of logr part that guarantees you that it will always give a different point and it is onto because $cos^2ø+sin^2ø=1$. Now i need to find a good $V$ open set that does the work(and does it globally so i though of the whole $R^3$ but it feels like cheating can i do that?) and to find the inverse function to make sure it is continuous. That is where im stuck.
Also Please can you check if my definitions are correct? And can i find them in a proper textbook cause all these come from my teachers notes and didnt find anything on the internet that looked similar when i was looking for cylinder parametrization and a proof for it.
And is this the "real" proof that the cylinder is a surface. (Meaning that there exists the above $ÃÂ$ given the above definitions)
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First some definitions.
A surface on $R^3$ is a set $Msubset R^3 $with the following properties.
1) For every point on the surface there exist an open nbrhood $V$ for which there exists a $C^infty$, 1-1 and onto function $ÃÂ:U rightarrow Vcap M$ so that the inverse of $ÃÂ$ is continuous for some $U subset R^2$ open.
2) The $DÃÂ$ (jacobian) has maximal degree. $ÃÂ$ is called local parametrization.
Now the problem. Prove that the cylinder $C:x^2+y^2=1$ is a smooth surface globally parametrized by the $ÃÂ(r,ø)=(cos(theta),sin(theta),ln(r))$ . $ ÃÂ: R^2 setminus 0 rightarrow C $.(polar coordinates)
Sollution.
1)First im not given any definition for a smooth surface so i believe if the parametrization is smooth then the surface is too. So since $ÃÂ$ is smooth hence C is smooth.
2)Now i also dont have a definition for a global parametrization so i believe it means ( and correct me please if im wrong) that if i can find an open set $V$ such that $Vcap M=M$ and an $ÃÂ:U rightarrow Vcap M $ that checks the requirements above the $ÃÂ$ is indeed a global parametrization.
Now the given parametrization has a jacobian of degree 2. So it checks that. It is continuous and smooth. it is 1-1 because of logr part that guarantees you that it will always give a different point and it is onto because $cos^2ø+sin^2ø=1$. Now i need to find a good $V$ open set that does the work(and does it globally so i though of the whole $R^3$ but it feels like cheating can i do that?) and to find the inverse function to make sure it is continuous. That is where im stuck.
Also Please can you check if my definitions are correct? And can i find them in a proper textbook cause all these come from my teachers notes and didnt find anything on the internet that looked similar when i was looking for cylinder parametrization and a proof for it.
And is this the "real" proof that the cylinder is a surface. (Meaning that there exists the above $ÃÂ$ given the above definitions)
calculus geometry differential-geometry surfaces
The cylinder is not "globally" parametrized by $varphi$, if it was then cylinder would've been topologically equivalent to $mathbbR^2$. Note that the coordinate system $(r,theta)$ is ambiguous at the origin (if $r=0$, then $theta$ is meaningless). Away from the circle at $z=-infty$ of the cylinder the parametrization is perfect.
â Hamed
Aug 31 at 1:19
My bad . $ ÃÂ: R^2 setminus 0 rightarrow C $ (r,ø) polar coordinates
â Manolis Lyviakis
Aug 31 at 1:28
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First some definitions.
A surface on $R^3$ is a set $Msubset R^3 $with the following properties.
1) For every point on the surface there exist an open nbrhood $V$ for which there exists a $C^infty$, 1-1 and onto function $ÃÂ:U rightarrow Vcap M$ so that the inverse of $ÃÂ$ is continuous for some $U subset R^2$ open.
2) The $DÃÂ$ (jacobian) has maximal degree. $ÃÂ$ is called local parametrization.
Now the problem. Prove that the cylinder $C:x^2+y^2=1$ is a smooth surface globally parametrized by the $ÃÂ(r,ø)=(cos(theta),sin(theta),ln(r))$ . $ ÃÂ: R^2 setminus 0 rightarrow C $.(polar coordinates)
Sollution.
1)First im not given any definition for a smooth surface so i believe if the parametrization is smooth then the surface is too. So since $ÃÂ$ is smooth hence C is smooth.
2)Now i also dont have a definition for a global parametrization so i believe it means ( and correct me please if im wrong) that if i can find an open set $V$ such that $Vcap M=M$ and an $ÃÂ:U rightarrow Vcap M $ that checks the requirements above the $ÃÂ$ is indeed a global parametrization.
Now the given parametrization has a jacobian of degree 2. So it checks that. It is continuous and smooth. it is 1-1 because of logr part that guarantees you that it will always give a different point and it is onto because $cos^2ø+sin^2ø=1$. Now i need to find a good $V$ open set that does the work(and does it globally so i though of the whole $R^3$ but it feels like cheating can i do that?) and to find the inverse function to make sure it is continuous. That is where im stuck.
Also Please can you check if my definitions are correct? And can i find them in a proper textbook cause all these come from my teachers notes and didnt find anything on the internet that looked similar when i was looking for cylinder parametrization and a proof for it.
And is this the "real" proof that the cylinder is a surface. (Meaning that there exists the above $ÃÂ$ given the above definitions)
calculus geometry differential-geometry surfaces
First some definitions.
A surface on $R^3$ is a set $Msubset R^3 $with the following properties.
1) For every point on the surface there exist an open nbrhood $V$ for which there exists a $C^infty$, 1-1 and onto function $ÃÂ:U rightarrow Vcap M$ so that the inverse of $ÃÂ$ is continuous for some $U subset R^2$ open.
2) The $DÃÂ$ (jacobian) has maximal degree. $ÃÂ$ is called local parametrization.
Now the problem. Prove that the cylinder $C:x^2+y^2=1$ is a smooth surface globally parametrized by the $ÃÂ(r,ø)=(cos(theta),sin(theta),ln(r))$ . $ ÃÂ: R^2 setminus 0 rightarrow C $.(polar coordinates)
Sollution.
1)First im not given any definition for a smooth surface so i believe if the parametrization is smooth then the surface is too. So since $ÃÂ$ is smooth hence C is smooth.
2)Now i also dont have a definition for a global parametrization so i believe it means ( and correct me please if im wrong) that if i can find an open set $V$ such that $Vcap M=M$ and an $ÃÂ:U rightarrow Vcap M $ that checks the requirements above the $ÃÂ$ is indeed a global parametrization.
Now the given parametrization has a jacobian of degree 2. So it checks that. It is continuous and smooth. it is 1-1 because of logr part that guarantees you that it will always give a different point and it is onto because $cos^2ø+sin^2ø=1$. Now i need to find a good $V$ open set that does the work(and does it globally so i though of the whole $R^3$ but it feels like cheating can i do that?) and to find the inverse function to make sure it is continuous. That is where im stuck.
Also Please can you check if my definitions are correct? And can i find them in a proper textbook cause all these come from my teachers notes and didnt find anything on the internet that looked similar when i was looking for cylinder parametrization and a proof for it.
And is this the "real" proof that the cylinder is a surface. (Meaning that there exists the above $ÃÂ$ given the above definitions)
calculus geometry differential-geometry surfaces
calculus geometry differential-geometry surfaces
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The cylinder is not "globally" parametrized by $varphi$, if it was then cylinder would've been topologically equivalent to $mathbbR^2$. Note that the coordinate system $(r,theta)$ is ambiguous at the origin (if $r=0$, then $theta$ is meaningless). Away from the circle at $z=-infty$ of the cylinder the parametrization is perfect.
â Hamed
Aug 31 at 1:19
My bad . $ ÃÂ: R^2 setminus 0 rightarrow C $ (r,ø) polar coordinates
â Manolis Lyviakis
Aug 31 at 1:28
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The cylinder is not "globally" parametrized by $varphi$, if it was then cylinder would've been topologically equivalent to $mathbbR^2$. Note that the coordinate system $(r,theta)$ is ambiguous at the origin (if $r=0$, then $theta$ is meaningless). Away from the circle at $z=-infty$ of the cylinder the parametrization is perfect.
â Hamed
Aug 31 at 1:19
My bad . $ ÃÂ: R^2 setminus 0 rightarrow C $ (r,ø) polar coordinates
â Manolis Lyviakis
Aug 31 at 1:28
The cylinder is not "globally" parametrized by $varphi$, if it was then cylinder would've been topologically equivalent to $mathbbR^2$. Note that the coordinate system $(r,theta)$ is ambiguous at the origin (if $r=0$, then $theta$ is meaningless). Away from the circle at $z=-infty$ of the cylinder the parametrization is perfect.
â Hamed
Aug 31 at 1:19
The cylinder is not "globally" parametrized by $varphi$, if it was then cylinder would've been topologically equivalent to $mathbbR^2$. Note that the coordinate system $(r,theta)$ is ambiguous at the origin (if $r=0$, then $theta$ is meaningless). Away from the circle at $z=-infty$ of the cylinder the parametrization is perfect.
â Hamed
Aug 31 at 1:19
My bad . $ ÃÂ: R^2 setminus 0 rightarrow C $ (r,ø) polar coordinates
â Manolis Lyviakis
Aug 31 at 1:28
My bad . $ ÃÂ: R^2 setminus 0 rightarrow C $ (r,ø) polar coordinates
â Manolis Lyviakis
Aug 31 at 1:28
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You can parametrize the cylinder with 4 charts. One for each hemisphere like so.
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You can parametrize the cylinder with 4 charts. One for each hemisphere like so.
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You can parametrize the cylinder with 4 charts. One for each hemisphere like so.
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You can parametrize the cylinder with 4 charts. One for each hemisphere like so.

You can parametrize the cylinder with 4 charts. One for each hemisphere like so.
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The cylinder is not "globally" parametrized by $varphi$, if it was then cylinder would've been topologically equivalent to $mathbbR^2$. Note that the coordinate system $(r,theta)$ is ambiguous at the origin (if $r=0$, then $theta$ is meaningless). Away from the circle at $z=-infty$ of the cylinder the parametrization is perfect.
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Aug 31 at 1:19
My bad . $ ÃÂ: R^2 setminus 0 rightarrow C $ (r,ø) polar coordinates
â Manolis Lyviakis
Aug 31 at 1:28