Partition of Set: Proof
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Let $f : Ato B$. If $B_1,B_2,dots,B_n$ is a partition of $B$, prove that $f^-1(B_1),f^-1(B_2),dots,f^-1(B_n)$ is partition of $A$.
I approached it like following:
Since $f^-1$ exists $f$ must be one one and onto. So for each $x$ in $A$ there is one distinct image in $B$ under $A$. Converse, "for each $y$ in $B$ there is distinct pre-image under $f$". This implies that we can define a set $A_i subseteq A$ which is the set of all elements in A whose image lies in $B_i$ under the $f$ i.e., $A_i=_f^-1(B_i)$. Since $f$ is onto $f$ covers all of $B$ and hence union of $A_i$s is equal to $A$.
Since $B_i$ is non-empty set, there exist a $y$ in $B_i$ such that $f(x)=y$. This means that $x$ is pre-image of $y$ under $f$. Hence $x$ belongs to $A_i$. So $A_i$ is non empty set.
Now since $B_i cap B_j$ is empty if $ine j$, them there is no $y$ such that it belongs to both $B_i$ and $B_j$. Now $f$ is one one so there is no pre-image $x$ such that it belongs to both $A_i$ and $A_j$. So $A_i cap A_j$ is empty. Hence set of all $A_i$s form a partition of $A$.
I think my logic is correct but can someone help me writing it in formal way. Also since there is one one correspondence between equivalence relations and partitions, how to approach this using relations.
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Let $f : Ato B$. If $B_1,B_2,dots,B_n$ is a partition of $B$, prove that $f^-1(B_1),f^-1(B_2),dots,f^-1(B_n)$ is partition of $A$.
I approached it like following:
Since $f^-1$ exists $f$ must be one one and onto. So for each $x$ in $A$ there is one distinct image in $B$ under $A$. Converse, "for each $y$ in $B$ there is distinct pre-image under $f$". This implies that we can define a set $A_i subseteq A$ which is the set of all elements in A whose image lies in $B_i$ under the $f$ i.e., $A_i=_f^-1(B_i)$. Since $f$ is onto $f$ covers all of $B$ and hence union of $A_i$s is equal to $A$.
Since $B_i$ is non-empty set, there exist a $y$ in $B_i$ such that $f(x)=y$. This means that $x$ is pre-image of $y$ under $f$. Hence $x$ belongs to $A_i$. So $A_i$ is non empty set.
Now since $B_i cap B_j$ is empty if $ine j$, them there is no $y$ such that it belongs to both $B_i$ and $B_j$. Now $f$ is one one so there is no pre-image $x$ such that it belongs to both $A_i$ and $A_j$. So $A_i cap A_j$ is empty. Hence set of all $A_i$s form a partition of $A$.
I think my logic is correct but can someone help me writing it in formal way. Also since there is one one correspondence between equivalence relations and partitions, how to approach this using relations.
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Maybe it's just a nit in how the question is worded, but nothing here implies that $f^-1$ does exist.
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Let $f : Ato B$. If $B_1,B_2,dots,B_n$ is a partition of $B$, prove that $f^-1(B_1),f^-1(B_2),dots,f^-1(B_n)$ is partition of $A$.
I approached it like following:
Since $f^-1$ exists $f$ must be one one and onto. So for each $x$ in $A$ there is one distinct image in $B$ under $A$. Converse, "for each $y$ in $B$ there is distinct pre-image under $f$". This implies that we can define a set $A_i subseteq A$ which is the set of all elements in A whose image lies in $B_i$ under the $f$ i.e., $A_i=_f^-1(B_i)$. Since $f$ is onto $f$ covers all of $B$ and hence union of $A_i$s is equal to $A$.
Since $B_i$ is non-empty set, there exist a $y$ in $B_i$ such that $f(x)=y$. This means that $x$ is pre-image of $y$ under $f$. Hence $x$ belongs to $A_i$. So $A_i$ is non empty set.
Now since $B_i cap B_j$ is empty if $ine j$, them there is no $y$ such that it belongs to both $B_i$ and $B_j$. Now $f$ is one one so there is no pre-image $x$ such that it belongs to both $A_i$ and $A_j$. So $A_i cap A_j$ is empty. Hence set of all $A_i$s form a partition of $A$.
I think my logic is correct but can someone help me writing it in formal way. Also since there is one one correspondence between equivalence relations and partitions, how to approach this using relations.
functions discrete-mathematics elementary-set-theory equivalence-relations set-partition
Let $f : Ato B$. If $B_1,B_2,dots,B_n$ is a partition of $B$, prove that $f^-1(B_1),f^-1(B_2),dots,f^-1(B_n)$ is partition of $A$.
I approached it like following:
Since $f^-1$ exists $f$ must be one one and onto. So for each $x$ in $A$ there is one distinct image in $B$ under $A$. Converse, "for each $y$ in $B$ there is distinct pre-image under $f$". This implies that we can define a set $A_i subseteq A$ which is the set of all elements in A whose image lies in $B_i$ under the $f$ i.e., $A_i=_f^-1(B_i)$. Since $f$ is onto $f$ covers all of $B$ and hence union of $A_i$s is equal to $A$.
Since $B_i$ is non-empty set, there exist a $y$ in $B_i$ such that $f(x)=y$. This means that $x$ is pre-image of $y$ under $f$. Hence $x$ belongs to $A_i$. So $A_i$ is non empty set.
Now since $B_i cap B_j$ is empty if $ine j$, them there is no $y$ such that it belongs to both $B_i$ and $B_j$. Now $f$ is one one so there is no pre-image $x$ such that it belongs to both $A_i$ and $A_j$. So $A_i cap A_j$ is empty. Hence set of all $A_i$s form a partition of $A$.
I think my logic is correct but can someone help me writing it in formal way. Also since there is one one correspondence between equivalence relations and partitions, how to approach this using relations.
functions discrete-mathematics elementary-set-theory equivalence-relations set-partition
functions discrete-mathematics elementary-set-theory equivalence-relations set-partition
edited Aug 31 at 12:34
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Maybe it's just a nit in how the question is worded, but nothing here implies that $f^-1$ does exist.
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Maybe it's just a nit in how the question is worded, but nothing here implies that $f^-1$ does exist.
â chepner
Aug 31 at 15:38
Maybe it's just a nit in how the question is worded, but nothing here implies that $f^-1$ does exist.
â chepner
Aug 31 at 15:38
Maybe it's just a nit in how the question is worded, but nothing here implies that $f^-1$ does exist.
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No, here $f$ is not necessarily a bijection. This is my hint: show that if $X, Ysubset B$ then
$$f^-1(X cap Y) = f^-1(X) cap f^-1(Y)quadtextandquad f^-1(X cup Y) = f^-1(X) cup f^-1(Y)$$
where the preimage $f^-1(X):=ain A: f(a)in X$.
Can you take it from here?
Edit. As regards the intersection-property, see how to prove $f^-1(B_1 cap B_2) = f^-1(B_1) cap f^-1(B_2)$ . The union-property can be shown in a similar way.
Beat me by just a second!
â Niki Di Giano
Aug 31 at 8:37
@NikiDiGiano Sorry! ;-)
â Robert Z
Aug 31 at 8:39
@RobertZ Thanks for the correction
â Jimmy
Aug 31 at 8:55
@RobertZ Can you also help me in defining the equivalence relation for this?
â Jimmy
Aug 31 at 8:55
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@Jimmy Let $aRa'$ iff there is $1leq ileq n$ such that $f(a)in B_i$ and $f(a')in B_i$. Show that $R$ is an equivalence relation in $A$.
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I think $f^-1$ in your exercise doesn't mean the inverse function, but $f^-1(B_i)$ is just the preimage of $B_i$ under $f$.
To show that these preimages build a partition of $A$, let $a in A$. Then $f(a)in B$ lies in one of the $B_i$, say $f(a)in B_j$, then $a in f^-1(B_j)$. Since $a$ was arbitrary, the preimages cover $A$.
Try to show the other properties of a partition in a similar fashion.
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Ok. For starters, you cannot say that $f$ is bijective.
$$f^-1(B_i)=xin A:f(x)in B_i.$$
Next, in order to show that $f^-1(B_1),f^-1(B_2),dots,f^-1(B_n)$ is a partition of $A$ you want to show two things. First,
$$A=bigcup_i=1^nf^-1(B_i)$$ and second that
$$f^-1(B_i)cap f^-1(B_j)=emptyset.$$
For the first point use the fact that
$$bigcup_i=1^nf^-1(B_i)=f^-1left(bigcup_i=1^nB_iright)=f^-1(B)=A.$$
For the second point note that
$$f^-1(B_i)cap f^-1(B_j)=f^-1left(B_icap B_jright)=f^-1(emptyset)=emptyset.$$
So you indeed have a partition.
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No, you are not given that f is a bijection.
If x in A, then f(a) in B.
If K subset A, then f(K) = f(x) : x in A .
If L subset B, then $f^-1$(L) =
x : f(x) in L .
This is the set extension of f and how the
problem is to be understood.
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4 Answers
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4 Answers
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No, here $f$ is not necessarily a bijection. This is my hint: show that if $X, Ysubset B$ then
$$f^-1(X cap Y) = f^-1(X) cap f^-1(Y)quadtextandquad f^-1(X cup Y) = f^-1(X) cup f^-1(Y)$$
where the preimage $f^-1(X):=ain A: f(a)in X$.
Can you take it from here?
Edit. As regards the intersection-property, see how to prove $f^-1(B_1 cap B_2) = f^-1(B_1) cap f^-1(B_2)$ . The union-property can be shown in a similar way.
Beat me by just a second!
â Niki Di Giano
Aug 31 at 8:37
@NikiDiGiano Sorry! ;-)
â Robert Z
Aug 31 at 8:39
@RobertZ Thanks for the correction
â Jimmy
Aug 31 at 8:55
@RobertZ Can you also help me in defining the equivalence relation for this?
â Jimmy
Aug 31 at 8:55
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@Jimmy Let $aRa'$ iff there is $1leq ileq n$ such that $f(a)in B_i$ and $f(a')in B_i$. Show that $R$ is an equivalence relation in $A$.
â Robert Z
Aug 31 at 9:09
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No, here $f$ is not necessarily a bijection. This is my hint: show that if $X, Ysubset B$ then
$$f^-1(X cap Y) = f^-1(X) cap f^-1(Y)quadtextandquad f^-1(X cup Y) = f^-1(X) cup f^-1(Y)$$
where the preimage $f^-1(X):=ain A: f(a)in X$.
Can you take it from here?
Edit. As regards the intersection-property, see how to prove $f^-1(B_1 cap B_2) = f^-1(B_1) cap f^-1(B_2)$ . The union-property can be shown in a similar way.
Beat me by just a second!
â Niki Di Giano
Aug 31 at 8:37
@NikiDiGiano Sorry! ;-)
â Robert Z
Aug 31 at 8:39
@RobertZ Thanks for the correction
â Jimmy
Aug 31 at 8:55
@RobertZ Can you also help me in defining the equivalence relation for this?
â Jimmy
Aug 31 at 8:55
1
@Jimmy Let $aRa'$ iff there is $1leq ileq n$ such that $f(a)in B_i$ and $f(a')in B_i$. Show that $R$ is an equivalence relation in $A$.
â Robert Z
Aug 31 at 9:09
 |Â
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up vote
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up vote
4
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No, here $f$ is not necessarily a bijection. This is my hint: show that if $X, Ysubset B$ then
$$f^-1(X cap Y) = f^-1(X) cap f^-1(Y)quadtextandquad f^-1(X cup Y) = f^-1(X) cup f^-1(Y)$$
where the preimage $f^-1(X):=ain A: f(a)in X$.
Can you take it from here?
Edit. As regards the intersection-property, see how to prove $f^-1(B_1 cap B_2) = f^-1(B_1) cap f^-1(B_2)$ . The union-property can be shown in a similar way.
No, here $f$ is not necessarily a bijection. This is my hint: show that if $X, Ysubset B$ then
$$f^-1(X cap Y) = f^-1(X) cap f^-1(Y)quadtextandquad f^-1(X cup Y) = f^-1(X) cup f^-1(Y)$$
where the preimage $f^-1(X):=ain A: f(a)in X$.
Can you take it from here?
Edit. As regards the intersection-property, see how to prove $f^-1(B_1 cap B_2) = f^-1(B_1) cap f^-1(B_2)$ . The union-property can be shown in a similar way.
edited Aug 31 at 8:44
answered Aug 31 at 8:36
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Beat me by just a second!
â Niki Di Giano
Aug 31 at 8:37
@NikiDiGiano Sorry! ;-)
â Robert Z
Aug 31 at 8:39
@RobertZ Thanks for the correction
â Jimmy
Aug 31 at 8:55
@RobertZ Can you also help me in defining the equivalence relation for this?
â Jimmy
Aug 31 at 8:55
1
@Jimmy Let $aRa'$ iff there is $1leq ileq n$ such that $f(a)in B_i$ and $f(a')in B_i$. Show that $R$ is an equivalence relation in $A$.
â Robert Z
Aug 31 at 9:09
 |Â
show 2 more comments
Beat me by just a second!
â Niki Di Giano
Aug 31 at 8:37
@NikiDiGiano Sorry! ;-)
â Robert Z
Aug 31 at 8:39
@RobertZ Thanks for the correction
â Jimmy
Aug 31 at 8:55
@RobertZ Can you also help me in defining the equivalence relation for this?
â Jimmy
Aug 31 at 8:55
1
@Jimmy Let $aRa'$ iff there is $1leq ileq n$ such that $f(a)in B_i$ and $f(a')in B_i$. Show that $R$ is an equivalence relation in $A$.
â Robert Z
Aug 31 at 9:09
Beat me by just a second!
â Niki Di Giano
Aug 31 at 8:37
Beat me by just a second!
â Niki Di Giano
Aug 31 at 8:37
@NikiDiGiano Sorry! ;-)
â Robert Z
Aug 31 at 8:39
@NikiDiGiano Sorry! ;-)
â Robert Z
Aug 31 at 8:39
@RobertZ Thanks for the correction
â Jimmy
Aug 31 at 8:55
@RobertZ Thanks for the correction
â Jimmy
Aug 31 at 8:55
@RobertZ Can you also help me in defining the equivalence relation for this?
â Jimmy
Aug 31 at 8:55
@RobertZ Can you also help me in defining the equivalence relation for this?
â Jimmy
Aug 31 at 8:55
1
1
@Jimmy Let $aRa'$ iff there is $1leq ileq n$ such that $f(a)in B_i$ and $f(a')in B_i$. Show that $R$ is an equivalence relation in $A$.
â Robert Z
Aug 31 at 9:09
@Jimmy Let $aRa'$ iff there is $1leq ileq n$ such that $f(a)in B_i$ and $f(a')in B_i$. Show that $R$ is an equivalence relation in $A$.
â Robert Z
Aug 31 at 9:09
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I think $f^-1$ in your exercise doesn't mean the inverse function, but $f^-1(B_i)$ is just the preimage of $B_i$ under $f$.
To show that these preimages build a partition of $A$, let $a in A$. Then $f(a)in B$ lies in one of the $B_i$, say $f(a)in B_j$, then $a in f^-1(B_j)$. Since $a$ was arbitrary, the preimages cover $A$.
Try to show the other properties of a partition in a similar fashion.
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I think $f^-1$ in your exercise doesn't mean the inverse function, but $f^-1(B_i)$ is just the preimage of $B_i$ under $f$.
To show that these preimages build a partition of $A$, let $a in A$. Then $f(a)in B$ lies in one of the $B_i$, say $f(a)in B_j$, then $a in f^-1(B_j)$. Since $a$ was arbitrary, the preimages cover $A$.
Try to show the other properties of a partition in a similar fashion.
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I think $f^-1$ in your exercise doesn't mean the inverse function, but $f^-1(B_i)$ is just the preimage of $B_i$ under $f$.
To show that these preimages build a partition of $A$, let $a in A$. Then $f(a)in B$ lies in one of the $B_i$, say $f(a)in B_j$, then $a in f^-1(B_j)$. Since $a$ was arbitrary, the preimages cover $A$.
Try to show the other properties of a partition in a similar fashion.
I think $f^-1$ in your exercise doesn't mean the inverse function, but $f^-1(B_i)$ is just the preimage of $B_i$ under $f$.
To show that these preimages build a partition of $A$, let $a in A$. Then $f(a)in B$ lies in one of the $B_i$, say $f(a)in B_j$, then $a in f^-1(B_j)$. Since $a$ was arbitrary, the preimages cover $A$.
Try to show the other properties of a partition in a similar fashion.
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Ok. For starters, you cannot say that $f$ is bijective.
$$f^-1(B_i)=xin A:f(x)in B_i.$$
Next, in order to show that $f^-1(B_1),f^-1(B_2),dots,f^-1(B_n)$ is a partition of $A$ you want to show two things. First,
$$A=bigcup_i=1^nf^-1(B_i)$$ and second that
$$f^-1(B_i)cap f^-1(B_j)=emptyset.$$
For the first point use the fact that
$$bigcup_i=1^nf^-1(B_i)=f^-1left(bigcup_i=1^nB_iright)=f^-1(B)=A.$$
For the second point note that
$$f^-1(B_i)cap f^-1(B_j)=f^-1left(B_icap B_jright)=f^-1(emptyset)=emptyset.$$
So you indeed have a partition.
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Ok. For starters, you cannot say that $f$ is bijective.
$$f^-1(B_i)=xin A:f(x)in B_i.$$
Next, in order to show that $f^-1(B_1),f^-1(B_2),dots,f^-1(B_n)$ is a partition of $A$ you want to show two things. First,
$$A=bigcup_i=1^nf^-1(B_i)$$ and second that
$$f^-1(B_i)cap f^-1(B_j)=emptyset.$$
For the first point use the fact that
$$bigcup_i=1^nf^-1(B_i)=f^-1left(bigcup_i=1^nB_iright)=f^-1(B)=A.$$
For the second point note that
$$f^-1(B_i)cap f^-1(B_j)=f^-1left(B_icap B_jright)=f^-1(emptyset)=emptyset.$$
So you indeed have a partition.
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Ok. For starters, you cannot say that $f$ is bijective.
$$f^-1(B_i)=xin A:f(x)in B_i.$$
Next, in order to show that $f^-1(B_1),f^-1(B_2),dots,f^-1(B_n)$ is a partition of $A$ you want to show two things. First,
$$A=bigcup_i=1^nf^-1(B_i)$$ and second that
$$f^-1(B_i)cap f^-1(B_j)=emptyset.$$
For the first point use the fact that
$$bigcup_i=1^nf^-1(B_i)=f^-1left(bigcup_i=1^nB_iright)=f^-1(B)=A.$$
For the second point note that
$$f^-1(B_i)cap f^-1(B_j)=f^-1left(B_icap B_jright)=f^-1(emptyset)=emptyset.$$
So you indeed have a partition.
Ok. For starters, you cannot say that $f$ is bijective.
$$f^-1(B_i)=xin A:f(x)in B_i.$$
Next, in order to show that $f^-1(B_1),f^-1(B_2),dots,f^-1(B_n)$ is a partition of $A$ you want to show two things. First,
$$A=bigcup_i=1^nf^-1(B_i)$$ and second that
$$f^-1(B_i)cap f^-1(B_j)=emptyset.$$
For the first point use the fact that
$$bigcup_i=1^nf^-1(B_i)=f^-1left(bigcup_i=1^nB_iright)=f^-1(B)=A.$$
For the second point note that
$$f^-1(B_i)cap f^-1(B_j)=f^-1left(B_icap B_jright)=f^-1(emptyset)=emptyset.$$
So you indeed have a partition.
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No, you are not given that f is a bijection.
If x in A, then f(a) in B.
If K subset A, then f(K) = f(x) : x in A .
If L subset B, then $f^-1$(L) =
x : f(x) in L .
This is the set extension of f and how the
problem is to be understood.
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No, you are not given that f is a bijection.
If x in A, then f(a) in B.
If K subset A, then f(K) = f(x) : x in A .
If L subset B, then $f^-1$(L) =
x : f(x) in L .
This is the set extension of f and how the
problem is to be understood.
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No, you are not given that f is a bijection.
If x in A, then f(a) in B.
If K subset A, then f(K) = f(x) : x in A .
If L subset B, then $f^-1$(L) =
x : f(x) in L .
This is the set extension of f and how the
problem is to be understood.
No, you are not given that f is a bijection.
If x in A, then f(a) in B.
If K subset A, then f(K) = f(x) : x in A .
If L subset B, then $f^-1$(L) =
x : f(x) in L .
This is the set extension of f and how the
problem is to be understood.
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Maybe it's just a nit in how the question is worded, but nothing here implies that $f^-1$ does exist.
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