Simplest way to get the real solutions for $ x^4-2x+1=0$?
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What is the simplest way to get the real solutions for this equation?
$$
x^4-2x+1=0
$$
I can do it and also ask for a step-by-step solution to Wolfram Alpha, but I was wondering if someone has a simpler way...
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What is the simplest way to get the real solutions for this equation?
$$
x^4-2x+1=0
$$
I can do it and also ask for a step-by-step solution to Wolfram Alpha, but I was wondering if someone has a simpler way...
algebra-precalculus polynomials
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What is the simplest way to get the real solutions for this equation?
$$
x^4-2x+1=0
$$
I can do it and also ask for a step-by-step solution to Wolfram Alpha, but I was wondering if someone has a simpler way...
algebra-precalculus polynomials
What is the simplest way to get the real solutions for this equation?
$$
x^4-2x+1=0
$$
I can do it and also ask for a step-by-step solution to Wolfram Alpha, but I was wondering if someone has a simpler way...
algebra-precalculus polynomials
algebra-precalculus polynomials
edited Aug 31 at 1:10
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Rational root test tells us that if there is a rational root $p/q$, then $p$ divides free coefficient $a_0 = 1$ and $q$ divides leading coefficient $a_4 = 1$. Thus, the only possible rational roots are $pm 1$. Quick check confirms that $1$ is a root, but $-1$ is not. Thus, $x^4-2x+1$ is divisible by $x-1$ and the corresponding factorization is
$$ x^4-2x+1 = (x-1)(x^3+x^2+x-1) $$
Unfortunately, $x^3+x^2+x-1$ doesn't have any rational roots (so, it is in fact irreducible over $mathbb Q$) and to find the roots, you can follow Wiki's article on cubic function.
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Aug 31 at 2:10
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Notice that the sum of coefficients is 0, so $1$ is a solution. Divide by $x-1$ and simplify.
And if you can't immediately see that the sum of coefficients is zero, you can always use the rational root theorem to note that the only possible rational values to test are $pm1$. The irrational roots are going to be difficult-to-impossible to get any grasp on, so...
â Steven Stadnicki
Aug 31 at 1:14
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Note that sum of coefficients are $0$ so $x=1$ is a real root. Then divide by $x-1$ and focus on the quotient polynomial for another real root.
Thank you for helping! If you're interested check my follow up question: math.stackexchange.com/questions/2900232/â¦
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3 Answers
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active
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oldest
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Rational root test tells us that if there is a rational root $p/q$, then $p$ divides free coefficient $a_0 = 1$ and $q$ divides leading coefficient $a_4 = 1$. Thus, the only possible rational roots are $pm 1$. Quick check confirms that $1$ is a root, but $-1$ is not. Thus, $x^4-2x+1$ is divisible by $x-1$ and the corresponding factorization is
$$ x^4-2x+1 = (x-1)(x^3+x^2+x-1) $$
Unfortunately, $x^3+x^2+x-1$ doesn't have any rational roots (so, it is in fact irreducible over $mathbb Q$) and to find the roots, you can follow Wiki's article on cubic function.
Thank you, very informative! If you're interested check my follow up question: math.stackexchange.com/questions/2900232/â¦
â Igaturtle
Aug 31 at 2:10
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Rational root test tells us that if there is a rational root $p/q$, then $p$ divides free coefficient $a_0 = 1$ and $q$ divides leading coefficient $a_4 = 1$. Thus, the only possible rational roots are $pm 1$. Quick check confirms that $1$ is a root, but $-1$ is not. Thus, $x^4-2x+1$ is divisible by $x-1$ and the corresponding factorization is
$$ x^4-2x+1 = (x-1)(x^3+x^2+x-1) $$
Unfortunately, $x^3+x^2+x-1$ doesn't have any rational roots (so, it is in fact irreducible over $mathbb Q$) and to find the roots, you can follow Wiki's article on cubic function.
Thank you, very informative! If you're interested check my follow up question: math.stackexchange.com/questions/2900232/â¦
â Igaturtle
Aug 31 at 2:10
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Rational root test tells us that if there is a rational root $p/q$, then $p$ divides free coefficient $a_0 = 1$ and $q$ divides leading coefficient $a_4 = 1$. Thus, the only possible rational roots are $pm 1$. Quick check confirms that $1$ is a root, but $-1$ is not. Thus, $x^4-2x+1$ is divisible by $x-1$ and the corresponding factorization is
$$ x^4-2x+1 = (x-1)(x^3+x^2+x-1) $$
Unfortunately, $x^3+x^2+x-1$ doesn't have any rational roots (so, it is in fact irreducible over $mathbb Q$) and to find the roots, you can follow Wiki's article on cubic function.
Rational root test tells us that if there is a rational root $p/q$, then $p$ divides free coefficient $a_0 = 1$ and $q$ divides leading coefficient $a_4 = 1$. Thus, the only possible rational roots are $pm 1$. Quick check confirms that $1$ is a root, but $-1$ is not. Thus, $x^4-2x+1$ is divisible by $x-1$ and the corresponding factorization is
$$ x^4-2x+1 = (x-1)(x^3+x^2+x-1) $$
Unfortunately, $x^3+x^2+x-1$ doesn't have any rational roots (so, it is in fact irreducible over $mathbb Q$) and to find the roots, you can follow Wiki's article on cubic function.
answered Aug 31 at 1:33
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Thank you, very informative! If you're interested check my follow up question: math.stackexchange.com/questions/2900232/â¦
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Notice that the sum of coefficients is 0, so $1$ is a solution. Divide by $x-1$ and simplify.
And if you can't immediately see that the sum of coefficients is zero, you can always use the rational root theorem to note that the only possible rational values to test are $pm1$. The irrational roots are going to be difficult-to-impossible to get any grasp on, so...
â Steven Stadnicki
Aug 31 at 1:14
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Notice that the sum of coefficients is 0, so $1$ is a solution. Divide by $x-1$ and simplify.
And if you can't immediately see that the sum of coefficients is zero, you can always use the rational root theorem to note that the only possible rational values to test are $pm1$. The irrational roots are going to be difficult-to-impossible to get any grasp on, so...
â Steven Stadnicki
Aug 31 at 1:14
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Notice that the sum of coefficients is 0, so $1$ is a solution. Divide by $x-1$ and simplify.
Notice that the sum of coefficients is 0, so $1$ is a solution. Divide by $x-1$ and simplify.
answered Aug 31 at 1:08
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And if you can't immediately see that the sum of coefficients is zero, you can always use the rational root theorem to note that the only possible rational values to test are $pm1$. The irrational roots are going to be difficult-to-impossible to get any grasp on, so...
â Steven Stadnicki
Aug 31 at 1:14
Thank you for helping! If you're interested check my follow up question: math.stackexchange.com/questions/2900232/â¦
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And if you can't immediately see that the sum of coefficients is zero, you can always use the rational root theorem to note that the only possible rational values to test are $pm1$. The irrational roots are going to be difficult-to-impossible to get any grasp on, so...
â Steven Stadnicki
Aug 31 at 1:14
Thank you for helping! If you're interested check my follow up question: math.stackexchange.com/questions/2900232/â¦
â Igaturtle
Aug 31 at 2:10
And if you can't immediately see that the sum of coefficients is zero, you can always use the rational root theorem to note that the only possible rational values to test are $pm1$. The irrational roots are going to be difficult-to-impossible to get any grasp on, so...
â Steven Stadnicki
Aug 31 at 1:14
And if you can't immediately see that the sum of coefficients is zero, you can always use the rational root theorem to note that the only possible rational values to test are $pm1$. The irrational roots are going to be difficult-to-impossible to get any grasp on, so...
â Steven Stadnicki
Aug 31 at 1:14
Thank you for helping! If you're interested check my follow up question: math.stackexchange.com/questions/2900232/â¦
â Igaturtle
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Note that sum of coefficients are $0$ so $x=1$ is a real root. Then divide by $x-1$ and focus on the quotient polynomial for another real root.
Thank you for helping! If you're interested check my follow up question: math.stackexchange.com/questions/2900232/â¦
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Note that sum of coefficients are $0$ so $x=1$ is a real root. Then divide by $x-1$ and focus on the quotient polynomial for another real root.
Thank you for helping! If you're interested check my follow up question: math.stackexchange.com/questions/2900232/â¦
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Note that sum of coefficients are $0$ so $x=1$ is a real root. Then divide by $x-1$ and focus on the quotient polynomial for another real root.
Note that sum of coefficients are $0$ so $x=1$ is a real root. Then divide by $x-1$ and focus on the quotient polynomial for another real root.
answered Aug 31 at 1:15
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