Proof that a Fourier transform is integrable

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So given a integrable function $f colon mathbbR to mathbbR$, we define the function $$g colon mathbbR to mathbbR, quad x mapsto sup_epsilon>0 dfrac2epsilon$$ and we assume that $g in mathcalL^2(mathbbR)$. I now need to proof that the Fourier transform $mathscrF(f)$ is integrable.
The start of my proof is as follows:
Define $$g_epsilon colon mathbbR to mathbbR, quad x mapsto dfracf(x-epsilon)-f(x+epsilon)2epsilon$$ for every $epsilon > 0$.
We know that $g_epsilon(x) leq g(x) $ for every $x in mathbbR$ and $epsilon > 0$. Then I calculated the Fourier transform of $g_epsilon$
$$ mathscrF(g_epsilon)(t) = dfrac-iepsilon sin(2piepsilon t)mathscrF(f)(t)$$
But from this point, it get's a little tricky and I don't know if I'm correct, but I think that we can assume that $g$ is an integrable function and then we know that $| mathscrF(g) |_2 = | g |_2$.
Now, I want to let $epsilon to 0$ and then I think I'm really close to the solution, but I can't figure out how.
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So given a integrable function $f colon mathbbR to mathbbR$, we define the function $$g colon mathbbR to mathbbR, quad x mapsto sup_epsilon>0 dfrac2epsilon$$ and we assume that $g in mathcalL^2(mathbbR)$. I now need to proof that the Fourier transform $mathscrF(f)$ is integrable.
The start of my proof is as follows:
Define $$g_epsilon colon mathbbR to mathbbR, quad x mapsto dfracf(x-epsilon)-f(x+epsilon)2epsilon$$ for every $epsilon > 0$.
We know that $g_epsilon(x) leq g(x) $ for every $x in mathbbR$ and $epsilon > 0$. Then I calculated the Fourier transform of $g_epsilon$
$$ mathscrF(g_epsilon)(t) = dfrac-iepsilon sin(2piepsilon t)mathscrF(f)(t)$$
But from this point, it get's a little tricky and I don't know if I'm correct, but I think that we can assume that $g$ is an integrable function and then we know that $| mathscrF(g) |_2 = | g |_2$.
Now, I want to let $epsilon to 0$ and then I think I'm really close to the solution, but I can't figure out how.
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$epsilon$ is only said to be larger than zero, I don't see any reason to make it tend towards zero by the end of the post. Also, it could be nice to avoid changing the variable $x$ to $t$ in the middle of the statement. I would suggest partitioning the fourier transform by intervals and assuming a specific $epsilon$ for each interval, then make those intervals tend to zero so you a have a sequence of functions that converge to $g$ in the integrand. This, however, is just a wild suggestion.
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Aug 27 at 13:39
If I did everything right, I think that I've proven that $(xmathscrF(f)(x))^2$ is integrable. For a periodic function $f$, I can now conclude that $mathscrF(f)(x)$ is integrable but does this also hold for any other integrable function $f$?
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So given a integrable function $f colon mathbbR to mathbbR$, we define the function $$g colon mathbbR to mathbbR, quad x mapsto sup_epsilon>0 dfrac2epsilon$$ and we assume that $g in mathcalL^2(mathbbR)$. I now need to proof that the Fourier transform $mathscrF(f)$ is integrable.
The start of my proof is as follows:
Define $$g_epsilon colon mathbbR to mathbbR, quad x mapsto dfracf(x-epsilon)-f(x+epsilon)2epsilon$$ for every $epsilon > 0$.
We know that $g_epsilon(x) leq g(x) $ for every $x in mathbbR$ and $epsilon > 0$. Then I calculated the Fourier transform of $g_epsilon$
$$ mathscrF(g_epsilon)(t) = dfrac-iepsilon sin(2piepsilon t)mathscrF(f)(t)$$
But from this point, it get's a little tricky and I don't know if I'm correct, but I think that we can assume that $g$ is an integrable function and then we know that $| mathscrF(g) |_2 = | g |_2$.
Now, I want to let $epsilon to 0$ and then I think I'm really close to the solution, but I can't figure out how.
analysis fourier-analysis fourier-transform
So given a integrable function $f colon mathbbR to mathbbR$, we define the function $$g colon mathbbR to mathbbR, quad x mapsto sup_epsilon>0 dfrac2epsilon$$ and we assume that $g in mathcalL^2(mathbbR)$. I now need to proof that the Fourier transform $mathscrF(f)$ is integrable.
The start of my proof is as follows:
Define $$g_epsilon colon mathbbR to mathbbR, quad x mapsto dfracf(x-epsilon)-f(x+epsilon)2epsilon$$ for every $epsilon > 0$.
We know that $g_epsilon(x) leq g(x) $ for every $x in mathbbR$ and $epsilon > 0$. Then I calculated the Fourier transform of $g_epsilon$
$$ mathscrF(g_epsilon)(t) = dfrac-iepsilon sin(2piepsilon t)mathscrF(f)(t)$$
But from this point, it get's a little tricky and I don't know if I'm correct, but I think that we can assume that $g$ is an integrable function and then we know that $| mathscrF(g) |_2 = | g |_2$.
Now, I want to let $epsilon to 0$ and then I think I'm really close to the solution, but I can't figure out how.
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$epsilon$ is only said to be larger than zero, I don't see any reason to make it tend towards zero by the end of the post. Also, it could be nice to avoid changing the variable $x$ to $t$ in the middle of the statement. I would suggest partitioning the fourier transform by intervals and assuming a specific $epsilon$ for each interval, then make those intervals tend to zero so you a have a sequence of functions that converge to $g$ in the integrand. This, however, is just a wild suggestion.
â Mefitico
Aug 27 at 13:39
If I did everything right, I think that I've proven that $(xmathscrF(f)(x))^2$ is integrable. For a periodic function $f$, I can now conclude that $mathscrF(f)(x)$ is integrable but does this also hold for any other integrable function $f$?
â Mee98
Aug 27 at 14:30
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$epsilon$ is only said to be larger than zero, I don't see any reason to make it tend towards zero by the end of the post. Also, it could be nice to avoid changing the variable $x$ to $t$ in the middle of the statement. I would suggest partitioning the fourier transform by intervals and assuming a specific $epsilon$ for each interval, then make those intervals tend to zero so you a have a sequence of functions that converge to $g$ in the integrand. This, however, is just a wild suggestion.
â Mefitico
Aug 27 at 13:39
If I did everything right, I think that I've proven that $(xmathscrF(f)(x))^2$ is integrable. For a periodic function $f$, I can now conclude that $mathscrF(f)(x)$ is integrable but does this also hold for any other integrable function $f$?
â Mee98
Aug 27 at 14:30
$epsilon$ is only said to be larger than zero, I don't see any reason to make it tend towards zero by the end of the post. Also, it could be nice to avoid changing the variable $x$ to $t$ in the middle of the statement. I would suggest partitioning the fourier transform by intervals and assuming a specific $epsilon$ for each interval, then make those intervals tend to zero so you a have a sequence of functions that converge to $g$ in the integrand. This, however, is just a wild suggestion.
â Mefitico
Aug 27 at 13:39
$epsilon$ is only said to be larger than zero, I don't see any reason to make it tend towards zero by the end of the post. Also, it could be nice to avoid changing the variable $x$ to $t$ in the middle of the statement. I would suggest partitioning the fourier transform by intervals and assuming a specific $epsilon$ for each interval, then make those intervals tend to zero so you a have a sequence of functions that converge to $g$ in the integrand. This, however, is just a wild suggestion.
â Mefitico
Aug 27 at 13:39
If I did everything right, I think that I've proven that $(xmathscrF(f)(x))^2$ is integrable. For a periodic function $f$, I can now conclude that $mathscrF(f)(x)$ is integrable but does this also hold for any other integrable function $f$?
â Mee98
Aug 27 at 14:30
If I did everything right, I think that I've proven that $(xmathscrF(f)(x))^2$ is integrable. For a periodic function $f$, I can now conclude that $mathscrF(f)(x)$ is integrable but does this also hold for any other integrable function $f$?
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Aug 27 at 14:30
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Actually, you have already solved the problem, but have not quite noticed it yet :)
Indeed, you have proven that $(xmathcalF(f)(x))^2$ is integrable. But, by a Cauchy-Schwarz inequality,
$$ int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |mathcalF(f)(x)| , dx = int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |xmathcalF(f)(x)| times frac1 , dx $$
$$ le left( int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |xmathcalF(f)(x)|^2 , dx right)^1/2 times left( int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] frac1x^2, dx right)^1/2 < +infty.$$
So, it suffices to analyse the interval $[-1,1].$ But, as we assumed that $f in L^1(mathbbR)$, we get that $mathcalF(f)$ is continuous, and therefore bounded, in $[-1,1].$ This implies the required integrability of the Fourier transform.
On the other hand, we see that the integrability of $f$ is crucial. Indeed, one can show, by using elementary Sobolev space methods, that the condition that $g in L^2(mathbbR)$ is equivalent to $f$ having a (distributional) derivative $f' in L^2(mathbbR).$ Of course, one needs to make sense of $f$ having a distributional derivative, but this happens if, for instance, $f in mathcalS'(mathbbR).$
Proving that $g in L^2(mathbbR)$ implies $f in L^2(mathbbR)$ is standard, whereas the reverse implication follows from the fact that
$$ g(x) le M(f')(x), forall x in mathbbR,$$
where $M$ stands for the usual Hardy-Littlewood maximal function on the real line. As $M:L^2 to L^2$ boundedly, we are through.
To come up with a counterexample is not very difficult then: for any function $g$, continuous, of compact support and such that $int g ne 0,$ Let
$$G(t) = int_-infty^t g(x) , dx.$$
This function satisfies the hypotheses of the problem, but clearly, as $mathcalF(g)(x) sim int g$ for $x sim 0,$ then, as $G' = g Rightarrow mathcalF(G)(x) sim fracint gx$ for $x sim 0,$ which does not integrate.
Of course, this all can be made formal, but this is intended as a sketch to just illustrate how important it is that $G in L^1(mathbbR).$
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Actually, you have already solved the problem, but have not quite noticed it yet :)
Indeed, you have proven that $(xmathcalF(f)(x))^2$ is integrable. But, by a Cauchy-Schwarz inequality,
$$ int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |mathcalF(f)(x)| , dx = int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |xmathcalF(f)(x)| times frac1 , dx $$
$$ le left( int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |xmathcalF(f)(x)|^2 , dx right)^1/2 times left( int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] frac1x^2, dx right)^1/2 < +infty.$$
So, it suffices to analyse the interval $[-1,1].$ But, as we assumed that $f in L^1(mathbbR)$, we get that $mathcalF(f)$ is continuous, and therefore bounded, in $[-1,1].$ This implies the required integrability of the Fourier transform.
On the other hand, we see that the integrability of $f$ is crucial. Indeed, one can show, by using elementary Sobolev space methods, that the condition that $g in L^2(mathbbR)$ is equivalent to $f$ having a (distributional) derivative $f' in L^2(mathbbR).$ Of course, one needs to make sense of $f$ having a distributional derivative, but this happens if, for instance, $f in mathcalS'(mathbbR).$
Proving that $g in L^2(mathbbR)$ implies $f in L^2(mathbbR)$ is standard, whereas the reverse implication follows from the fact that
$$ g(x) le M(f')(x), forall x in mathbbR,$$
where $M$ stands for the usual Hardy-Littlewood maximal function on the real line. As $M:L^2 to L^2$ boundedly, we are through.
To come up with a counterexample is not very difficult then: for any function $g$, continuous, of compact support and such that $int g ne 0,$ Let
$$G(t) = int_-infty^t g(x) , dx.$$
This function satisfies the hypotheses of the problem, but clearly, as $mathcalF(g)(x) sim int g$ for $x sim 0,$ then, as $G' = g Rightarrow mathcalF(G)(x) sim fracint gx$ for $x sim 0,$ which does not integrate.
Of course, this all can be made formal, but this is intended as a sketch to just illustrate how important it is that $G in L^1(mathbbR).$
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Actually, you have already solved the problem, but have not quite noticed it yet :)
Indeed, you have proven that $(xmathcalF(f)(x))^2$ is integrable. But, by a Cauchy-Schwarz inequality,
$$ int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |mathcalF(f)(x)| , dx = int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |xmathcalF(f)(x)| times frac1 , dx $$
$$ le left( int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |xmathcalF(f)(x)|^2 , dx right)^1/2 times left( int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] frac1x^2, dx right)^1/2 < +infty.$$
So, it suffices to analyse the interval $[-1,1].$ But, as we assumed that $f in L^1(mathbbR)$, we get that $mathcalF(f)$ is continuous, and therefore bounded, in $[-1,1].$ This implies the required integrability of the Fourier transform.
On the other hand, we see that the integrability of $f$ is crucial. Indeed, one can show, by using elementary Sobolev space methods, that the condition that $g in L^2(mathbbR)$ is equivalent to $f$ having a (distributional) derivative $f' in L^2(mathbbR).$ Of course, one needs to make sense of $f$ having a distributional derivative, but this happens if, for instance, $f in mathcalS'(mathbbR).$
Proving that $g in L^2(mathbbR)$ implies $f in L^2(mathbbR)$ is standard, whereas the reverse implication follows from the fact that
$$ g(x) le M(f')(x), forall x in mathbbR,$$
where $M$ stands for the usual Hardy-Littlewood maximal function on the real line. As $M:L^2 to L^2$ boundedly, we are through.
To come up with a counterexample is not very difficult then: for any function $g$, continuous, of compact support and such that $int g ne 0,$ Let
$$G(t) = int_-infty^t g(x) , dx.$$
This function satisfies the hypotheses of the problem, but clearly, as $mathcalF(g)(x) sim int g$ for $x sim 0,$ then, as $G' = g Rightarrow mathcalF(G)(x) sim fracint gx$ for $x sim 0,$ which does not integrate.
Of course, this all can be made formal, but this is intended as a sketch to just illustrate how important it is that $G in L^1(mathbbR).$
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Actually, you have already solved the problem, but have not quite noticed it yet :)
Indeed, you have proven that $(xmathcalF(f)(x))^2$ is integrable. But, by a Cauchy-Schwarz inequality,
$$ int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |mathcalF(f)(x)| , dx = int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |xmathcalF(f)(x)| times frac1 , dx $$
$$ le left( int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |xmathcalF(f)(x)|^2 , dx right)^1/2 times left( int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] frac1x^2, dx right)^1/2 < +infty.$$
So, it suffices to analyse the interval $[-1,1].$ But, as we assumed that $f in L^1(mathbbR)$, we get that $mathcalF(f)$ is continuous, and therefore bounded, in $[-1,1].$ This implies the required integrability of the Fourier transform.
On the other hand, we see that the integrability of $f$ is crucial. Indeed, one can show, by using elementary Sobolev space methods, that the condition that $g in L^2(mathbbR)$ is equivalent to $f$ having a (distributional) derivative $f' in L^2(mathbbR).$ Of course, one needs to make sense of $f$ having a distributional derivative, but this happens if, for instance, $f in mathcalS'(mathbbR).$
Proving that $g in L^2(mathbbR)$ implies $f in L^2(mathbbR)$ is standard, whereas the reverse implication follows from the fact that
$$ g(x) le M(f')(x), forall x in mathbbR,$$
where $M$ stands for the usual Hardy-Littlewood maximal function on the real line. As $M:L^2 to L^2$ boundedly, we are through.
To come up with a counterexample is not very difficult then: for any function $g$, continuous, of compact support and such that $int g ne 0,$ Let
$$G(t) = int_-infty^t g(x) , dx.$$
This function satisfies the hypotheses of the problem, but clearly, as $mathcalF(g)(x) sim int g$ for $x sim 0,$ then, as $G' = g Rightarrow mathcalF(G)(x) sim fracint gx$ for $x sim 0,$ which does not integrate.
Of course, this all can be made formal, but this is intended as a sketch to just illustrate how important it is that $G in L^1(mathbbR).$
Actually, you have already solved the problem, but have not quite noticed it yet :)
Indeed, you have proven that $(xmathcalF(f)(x))^2$ is integrable. But, by a Cauchy-Schwarz inequality,
$$ int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |mathcalF(f)(x)| , dx = int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |xmathcalF(f)(x)| times frac1 , dx $$
$$ le left( int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] |xmathcalF(f)(x)|^2 , dx right)^1/2 times left( int_mathbbRbackslash [-1,1] frac1x^2, dx right)^1/2 < +infty.$$
So, it suffices to analyse the interval $[-1,1].$ But, as we assumed that $f in L^1(mathbbR)$, we get that $mathcalF(f)$ is continuous, and therefore bounded, in $[-1,1].$ This implies the required integrability of the Fourier transform.
On the other hand, we see that the integrability of $f$ is crucial. Indeed, one can show, by using elementary Sobolev space methods, that the condition that $g in L^2(mathbbR)$ is equivalent to $f$ having a (distributional) derivative $f' in L^2(mathbbR).$ Of course, one needs to make sense of $f$ having a distributional derivative, but this happens if, for instance, $f in mathcalS'(mathbbR).$
Proving that $g in L^2(mathbbR)$ implies $f in L^2(mathbbR)$ is standard, whereas the reverse implication follows from the fact that
$$ g(x) le M(f')(x), forall x in mathbbR,$$
where $M$ stands for the usual Hardy-Littlewood maximal function on the real line. As $M:L^2 to L^2$ boundedly, we are through.
To come up with a counterexample is not very difficult then: for any function $g$, continuous, of compact support and such that $int g ne 0,$ Let
$$G(t) = int_-infty^t g(x) , dx.$$
This function satisfies the hypotheses of the problem, but clearly, as $mathcalF(g)(x) sim int g$ for $x sim 0,$ then, as $G' = g Rightarrow mathcalF(G)(x) sim fracint gx$ for $x sim 0,$ which does not integrate.
Of course, this all can be made formal, but this is intended as a sketch to just illustrate how important it is that $G in L^1(mathbbR).$
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$epsilon$ is only said to be larger than zero, I don't see any reason to make it tend towards zero by the end of the post. Also, it could be nice to avoid changing the variable $x$ to $t$ in the middle of the statement. I would suggest partitioning the fourier transform by intervals and assuming a specific $epsilon$ for each interval, then make those intervals tend to zero so you a have a sequence of functions that converge to $g$ in the integrand. This, however, is just a wild suggestion.
â Mefitico
Aug 27 at 13:39
If I did everything right, I think that I've proven that $(xmathscrF(f)(x))^2$ is integrable. For a periodic function $f$, I can now conclude that $mathscrF(f)(x)$ is integrable but does this also hold for any other integrable function $f$?
â Mee98
Aug 27 at 14:30