A symmetry identity involving norms

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Let $x,yne 0$ in $mathbb R^n$. Give a geometrical interpretation of the identity



$Big Vertfrac xVert xVert -Vert xVert yBig Vert =
Big Vertfrac yVert yVert -Vert yVert xBig Vert $.



Here $VertcdotVert $ denotes the Euclidean norm. I can prove the identity algebraically; both sides are $1-2langle x,yrangle +Vert xVert^2+Vert yVert^2$. What is a geometrical interpretation?







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    Let $x,yne 0$ in $mathbb R^n$. Give a geometrical interpretation of the identity



    $Big Vertfrac xVert xVert -Vert xVert yBig Vert =
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    Here $VertcdotVert $ denotes the Euclidean norm. I can prove the identity algebraically; both sides are $1-2langle x,yrangle +Vert xVert^2+Vert yVert^2$. What is a geometrical interpretation?







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      Let $x,yne 0$ in $mathbb R^n$. Give a geometrical interpretation of the identity



      $Big Vertfrac xVert xVert -Vert xVert yBig Vert =
      Big Vertfrac yVert yVert -Vert yVert xBig Vert $.



      Here $VertcdotVert $ denotes the Euclidean norm. I can prove the identity algebraically; both sides are $1-2langle x,yrangle +Vert xVert^2+Vert yVert^2$. What is a geometrical interpretation?







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      Let $x,yne 0$ in $mathbb R^n$. Give a geometrical interpretation of the identity



      $Big Vertfrac xVert xVert -Vert xVert yBig Vert =
      Big Vertfrac yVert yVert -Vert yVert xBig Vert $.



      Here $VertcdotVert $ denotes the Euclidean norm. I can prove the identity algebraically; both sides are $1-2langle x,yrangle +Vert xVert^2+Vert yVert^2$. What is a geometrical interpretation?









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          Let $u=x/|x|, v=y/|y|$ and $p=|x||y|$. The identity can then be rewritten as
          $$
          |u-pv|=|v-pu|.
          $$
          It's true simply because there exists a linear isometry $Q$ such that $Qu=v$ and $Qv=u$.






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          • Can you please explain why this identity is implied by the existence of Q?
            – Shahab
            Aug 28 at 16:59










          • @Shahab $u-pv=Q(v-pu)$.
            – user1551
            Aug 28 at 17:17










          • Thank you. How can we prove that Q always exists?
            – Shahab
            Aug 29 at 2:49










          • @Shahab Let $V=operatornamespanu,v$. Simply define $Q|_V$ as the reflection about $u+v$ (i.e. define $Q(u+v):=u+v$ and $Q(u-v):=v-u$) and $Q|_V^perp$ as the identity map.
            – user1551
            Aug 29 at 9:57










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          Let $u=x/|x|, v=y/|y|$ and $p=|x||y|$. The identity can then be rewritten as
          $$
          |u-pv|=|v-pu|.
          $$
          It's true simply because there exists a linear isometry $Q$ such that $Qu=v$ and $Qv=u$.






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          • Can you please explain why this identity is implied by the existence of Q?
            – Shahab
            Aug 28 at 16:59










          • @Shahab $u-pv=Q(v-pu)$.
            – user1551
            Aug 28 at 17:17










          • Thank you. How can we prove that Q always exists?
            – Shahab
            Aug 29 at 2:49










          • @Shahab Let $V=operatornamespanu,v$. Simply define $Q|_V$ as the reflection about $u+v$ (i.e. define $Q(u+v):=u+v$ and $Q(u-v):=v-u$) and $Q|_V^perp$ as the identity map.
            – user1551
            Aug 29 at 9:57














          up vote
          3
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          accepted










          Let $u=x/|x|, v=y/|y|$ and $p=|x||y|$. The identity can then be rewritten as
          $$
          |u-pv|=|v-pu|.
          $$
          It's true simply because there exists a linear isometry $Q$ such that $Qu=v$ and $Qv=u$.






          share|cite|improve this answer




















          • Can you please explain why this identity is implied by the existence of Q?
            – Shahab
            Aug 28 at 16:59










          • @Shahab $u-pv=Q(v-pu)$.
            – user1551
            Aug 28 at 17:17










          • Thank you. How can we prove that Q always exists?
            – Shahab
            Aug 29 at 2:49










          • @Shahab Let $V=operatornamespanu,v$. Simply define $Q|_V$ as the reflection about $u+v$ (i.e. define $Q(u+v):=u+v$ and $Q(u-v):=v-u$) and $Q|_V^perp$ as the identity map.
            – user1551
            Aug 29 at 9:57












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          Let $u=x/|x|, v=y/|y|$ and $p=|x||y|$. The identity can then be rewritten as
          $$
          |u-pv|=|v-pu|.
          $$
          It's true simply because there exists a linear isometry $Q$ such that $Qu=v$ and $Qv=u$.






          share|cite|improve this answer












          Let $u=x/|x|, v=y/|y|$ and $p=|x||y|$. The identity can then be rewritten as
          $$
          |u-pv|=|v-pu|.
          $$
          It's true simply because there exists a linear isometry $Q$ such that $Qu=v$ and $Qv=u$.







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          • Can you please explain why this identity is implied by the existence of Q?
            – Shahab
            Aug 28 at 16:59










          • @Shahab $u-pv=Q(v-pu)$.
            – user1551
            Aug 28 at 17:17










          • Thank you. How can we prove that Q always exists?
            – Shahab
            Aug 29 at 2:49










          • @Shahab Let $V=operatornamespanu,v$. Simply define $Q|_V$ as the reflection about $u+v$ (i.e. define $Q(u+v):=u+v$ and $Q(u-v):=v-u$) and $Q|_V^perp$ as the identity map.
            – user1551
            Aug 29 at 9:57
















          • Can you please explain why this identity is implied by the existence of Q?
            – Shahab
            Aug 28 at 16:59










          • @Shahab $u-pv=Q(v-pu)$.
            – user1551
            Aug 28 at 17:17










          • Thank you. How can we prove that Q always exists?
            – Shahab
            Aug 29 at 2:49










          • @Shahab Let $V=operatornamespanu,v$. Simply define $Q|_V$ as the reflection about $u+v$ (i.e. define $Q(u+v):=u+v$ and $Q(u-v):=v-u$) and $Q|_V^perp$ as the identity map.
            – user1551
            Aug 29 at 9:57















          Can you please explain why this identity is implied by the existence of Q?
          – Shahab
          Aug 28 at 16:59




          Can you please explain why this identity is implied by the existence of Q?
          – Shahab
          Aug 28 at 16:59












          @Shahab $u-pv=Q(v-pu)$.
          – user1551
          Aug 28 at 17:17




          @Shahab $u-pv=Q(v-pu)$.
          – user1551
          Aug 28 at 17:17












          Thank you. How can we prove that Q always exists?
          – Shahab
          Aug 29 at 2:49




          Thank you. How can we prove that Q always exists?
          – Shahab
          Aug 29 at 2:49












          @Shahab Let $V=operatornamespanu,v$. Simply define $Q|_V$ as the reflection about $u+v$ (i.e. define $Q(u+v):=u+v$ and $Q(u-v):=v-u$) and $Q|_V^perp$ as the identity map.
          – user1551
          Aug 29 at 9:57




          @Shahab Let $V=operatornamespanu,v$. Simply define $Q|_V$ as the reflection about $u+v$ (i.e. define $Q(u+v):=u+v$ and $Q(u-v):=v-u$) and $Q|_V^perp$ as the identity map.
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