Fixed point of a line through two points on parabola.

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If $V$ is a vertex (actualy it can be any point on parabola) of parabola $mathcalP$ and $A$ and $B$ are
such variable points on $mathcalP$ that $angle AVB =
90^circ$. Prove that the line $AB$ goes through a fixed point.




I can prove that analyticaly:



Say $y^2 = 4p^2x$, then $V(0,0)$, $A(a^2,2pa)$ and $B(b^2,2pb)$
for some real $a$ and $b$ with condition $4p^2 = -ab$ (because $angle AVB = 90^circ$). Now the
line $AB$ is $$y =2pover a+bx +2pabover a+b$$ which
intersect the $x$-axis at $x_0=-ab = 4p^2$, which is clearly
constant.



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  • What do you mean by synthetically ?
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  • No coordinate system or trigonometry, just euclidian geometry
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If $V$ is a vertex (actualy it can be any point on parabola) of parabola $mathcalP$ and $A$ and $B$ are
such variable points on $mathcalP$ that $angle AVB =
90^circ$. Prove that the line $AB$ goes through a fixed point.




I can prove that analyticaly:



Say $y^2 = 4p^2x$, then $V(0,0)$, $A(a^2,2pa)$ and $B(b^2,2pb)$
for some real $a$ and $b$ with condition $4p^2 = -ab$ (because $angle AVB = 90^circ$). Now the
line $AB$ is $$y =2pover a+bx +2pabover a+b$$ which
intersect the $x$-axis at $x_0=-ab = 4p^2$, which is clearly
constant.



But how to prove it syntheticaly?







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  • What do you mean by synthetically ?
    – Yves Daoust
    Aug 27 at 20:47










  • No coordinate system or trigonometry, just euclidian geometry
    – greedoid
    Aug 27 at 20:49












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If $V$ is a vertex (actualy it can be any point on parabola) of parabola $mathcalP$ and $A$ and $B$ are
such variable points on $mathcalP$ that $angle AVB =
90^circ$. Prove that the line $AB$ goes through a fixed point.




I can prove that analyticaly:



Say $y^2 = 4p^2x$, then $V(0,0)$, $A(a^2,2pa)$ and $B(b^2,2pb)$
for some real $a$ and $b$ with condition $4p^2 = -ab$ (because $angle AVB = 90^circ$). Now the
line $AB$ is $$y =2pover a+bx +2pabover a+b$$ which
intersect the $x$-axis at $x_0=-ab = 4p^2$, which is clearly
constant.



But how to prove it syntheticaly?







share|cite|improve this question














If $V$ is a vertex (actualy it can be any point on parabola) of parabola $mathcalP$ and $A$ and $B$ are
such variable points on $mathcalP$ that $angle AVB =
90^circ$. Prove that the line $AB$ goes through a fixed point.




I can prove that analyticaly:



Say $y^2 = 4p^2x$, then $V(0,0)$, $A(a^2,2pa)$ and $B(b^2,2pb)$
for some real $a$ and $b$ with condition $4p^2 = -ab$ (because $angle AVB = 90^circ$). Now the
line $AB$ is $$y =2pover a+bx +2pabover a+b$$ which
intersect the $x$-axis at $x_0=-ab = 4p^2$, which is clearly
constant.



But how to prove it syntheticaly?









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  • What do you mean by synthetically ?
    – Yves Daoust
    Aug 27 at 20:47










  • No coordinate system or trigonometry, just euclidian geometry
    – greedoid
    Aug 27 at 20:49
















  • What do you mean by synthetically ?
    – Yves Daoust
    Aug 27 at 20:47










  • No coordinate system or trigonometry, just euclidian geometry
    – greedoid
    Aug 27 at 20:49















What do you mean by synthetically ?
– Yves Daoust
Aug 27 at 20:47




What do you mean by synthetically ?
– Yves Daoust
Aug 27 at 20:47












No coordinate system or trigonometry, just euclidian geometry
– greedoid
Aug 27 at 20:49




No coordinate system or trigonometry, just euclidian geometry
– greedoid
Aug 27 at 20:49










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Let $S$ be the focus, $T$ the intersection between line $AB$ and the axis, $H$ and $K$ the projections of $A$ and $B$ on the axis. We want to prove that $VT$ is of fixed length.



We'll repeatedly use Apollonius' definition of parabola, which entails:
$$
AH^2=4VScdot VH,quad BK^2=4VScdot VK.
$$
From the similitude of triangles $AHT$, $BKT$ we have $TK:TH=BK:AH$, and
$(TK+TH):TH=(BK+AH):AH$, hence (supposing WLOG that $VK>VH$):
$$
beginalign
TH
&=TK+THover BK+AHAH=VK-VHover BK+AHAH=1over4VSBK^2-AH^2over BK+AHAH\
&=BK-AHover4VSAH=BKcdot AHover4VS-AH^2over4VS=BKcdot AHover4VS-VH.\
endalign
$$
It follows that: $displaystyle VT=TH+VH=BKcdot AHover4VS$.



But from Pythagoras' theorem we also have:
$$
beginalign
AB^2
&=(AH+BK)^2+(VK-VH)^2=AH^2+VH^2+BK^2+VK^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK\
&=AV^2+BV^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK=AB^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK.
endalign
$$
It follows that:
$$
AHcdot BK=VHcdot VK=1over16VS^2AH^2cdot BK^2,
quadtextwhence:quad
AHcdot BK=16VS^2.
$$
Substituting that into our previous result for $VT$ gives then $VT=4VS$, and the proof is complete.



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    Let $S$ be the focus, $T$ the intersection between line $AB$ and the axis, $H$ and $K$ the projections of $A$ and $B$ on the axis. We want to prove that $VT$ is of fixed length.



    We'll repeatedly use Apollonius' definition of parabola, which entails:
    $$
    AH^2=4VScdot VH,quad BK^2=4VScdot VK.
    $$
    From the similitude of triangles $AHT$, $BKT$ we have $TK:TH=BK:AH$, and
    $(TK+TH):TH=(BK+AH):AH$, hence (supposing WLOG that $VK>VH$):
    $$
    beginalign
    TH
    &=TK+THover BK+AHAH=VK-VHover BK+AHAH=1over4VSBK^2-AH^2over BK+AHAH\
    &=BK-AHover4VSAH=BKcdot AHover4VS-AH^2over4VS=BKcdot AHover4VS-VH.\
    endalign
    $$
    It follows that: $displaystyle VT=TH+VH=BKcdot AHover4VS$.



    But from Pythagoras' theorem we also have:
    $$
    beginalign
    AB^2
    &=(AH+BK)^2+(VK-VH)^2=AH^2+VH^2+BK^2+VK^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK\
    &=AV^2+BV^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK=AB^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK.
    endalign
    $$
    It follows that:
    $$
    AHcdot BK=VHcdot VK=1over16VS^2AH^2cdot BK^2,
    quadtextwhence:quad
    AHcdot BK=16VS^2.
    $$
    Substituting that into our previous result for $VT$ gives then $VT=4VS$, and the proof is complete.



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      Let $S$ be the focus, $T$ the intersection between line $AB$ and the axis, $H$ and $K$ the projections of $A$ and $B$ on the axis. We want to prove that $VT$ is of fixed length.



      We'll repeatedly use Apollonius' definition of parabola, which entails:
      $$
      AH^2=4VScdot VH,quad BK^2=4VScdot VK.
      $$
      From the similitude of triangles $AHT$, $BKT$ we have $TK:TH=BK:AH$, and
      $(TK+TH):TH=(BK+AH):AH$, hence (supposing WLOG that $VK>VH$):
      $$
      beginalign
      TH
      &=TK+THover BK+AHAH=VK-VHover BK+AHAH=1over4VSBK^2-AH^2over BK+AHAH\
      &=BK-AHover4VSAH=BKcdot AHover4VS-AH^2over4VS=BKcdot AHover4VS-VH.\
      endalign
      $$
      It follows that: $displaystyle VT=TH+VH=BKcdot AHover4VS$.



      But from Pythagoras' theorem we also have:
      $$
      beginalign
      AB^2
      &=(AH+BK)^2+(VK-VH)^2=AH^2+VH^2+BK^2+VK^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK\
      &=AV^2+BV^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK=AB^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK.
      endalign
      $$
      It follows that:
      $$
      AHcdot BK=VHcdot VK=1over16VS^2AH^2cdot BK^2,
      quadtextwhence:quad
      AHcdot BK=16VS^2.
      $$
      Substituting that into our previous result for $VT$ gives then $VT=4VS$, and the proof is complete.



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        Let $S$ be the focus, $T$ the intersection between line $AB$ and the axis, $H$ and $K$ the projections of $A$ and $B$ on the axis. We want to prove that $VT$ is of fixed length.



        We'll repeatedly use Apollonius' definition of parabola, which entails:
        $$
        AH^2=4VScdot VH,quad BK^2=4VScdot VK.
        $$
        From the similitude of triangles $AHT$, $BKT$ we have $TK:TH=BK:AH$, and
        $(TK+TH):TH=(BK+AH):AH$, hence (supposing WLOG that $VK>VH$):
        $$
        beginalign
        TH
        &=TK+THover BK+AHAH=VK-VHover BK+AHAH=1over4VSBK^2-AH^2over BK+AHAH\
        &=BK-AHover4VSAH=BKcdot AHover4VS-AH^2over4VS=BKcdot AHover4VS-VH.\
        endalign
        $$
        It follows that: $displaystyle VT=TH+VH=BKcdot AHover4VS$.



        But from Pythagoras' theorem we also have:
        $$
        beginalign
        AB^2
        &=(AH+BK)^2+(VK-VH)^2=AH^2+VH^2+BK^2+VK^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK\
        &=AV^2+BV^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK=AB^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK.
        endalign
        $$
        It follows that:
        $$
        AHcdot BK=VHcdot VK=1over16VS^2AH^2cdot BK^2,
        quadtextwhence:quad
        AHcdot BK=16VS^2.
        $$
        Substituting that into our previous result for $VT$ gives then $VT=4VS$, and the proof is complete.



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        Let $S$ be the focus, $T$ the intersection between line $AB$ and the axis, $H$ and $K$ the projections of $A$ and $B$ on the axis. We want to prove that $VT$ is of fixed length.



        We'll repeatedly use Apollonius' definition of parabola, which entails:
        $$
        AH^2=4VScdot VH,quad BK^2=4VScdot VK.
        $$
        From the similitude of triangles $AHT$, $BKT$ we have $TK:TH=BK:AH$, and
        $(TK+TH):TH=(BK+AH):AH$, hence (supposing WLOG that $VK>VH$):
        $$
        beginalign
        TH
        &=TK+THover BK+AHAH=VK-VHover BK+AHAH=1over4VSBK^2-AH^2over BK+AHAH\
        &=BK-AHover4VSAH=BKcdot AHover4VS-AH^2over4VS=BKcdot AHover4VS-VH.\
        endalign
        $$
        It follows that: $displaystyle VT=TH+VH=BKcdot AHover4VS$.



        But from Pythagoras' theorem we also have:
        $$
        beginalign
        AB^2
        &=(AH+BK)^2+(VK-VH)^2=AH^2+VH^2+BK^2+VK^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK\
        &=AV^2+BV^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK=AB^2+2AHcdot BK-2VHcdot VK.
        endalign
        $$
        It follows that:
        $$
        AHcdot BK=VHcdot VK=1over16VS^2AH^2cdot BK^2,
        quadtextwhence:quad
        AHcdot BK=16VS^2.
        $$
        Substituting that into our previous result for $VT$ gives then $VT=4VS$, and the proof is complete.



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