Solution of second order differential eqauation $ D''y + (k)^2 y=0$
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What is the need to write two different solutions of the following equation ( although they are same solutions as I think) -
$$ D''y + (k)^2 y=0$$
( where D" means ordinary derivative of y with respect to x, and symbol ^ denotes power raised to )
Solution one
$$ y = A sin(kx) + B cos(kx)$$
Solution two
$$ y = A exp(ikx) + B exp( -ikx)$$
When I told my teacher from where these solutions came from,she said the equation you are showing is a standard equation and you have to remember the solutions. But I want to know how did we reach at these solutions. I mean when we have first order differential equation, we obtain the solutions by Integration or by some any method using integration. I want somewhat that kind of solution which have been obtained by integration or I mean I don't want to cram these solutions but want to know from where they came from and what is the actual way to obtain them?
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What is the need to write two different solutions of the following equation ( although they are same solutions as I think) -
$$ D''y + (k)^2 y=0$$
( where D" means ordinary derivative of y with respect to x, and symbol ^ denotes power raised to )
Solution one
$$ y = A sin(kx) + B cos(kx)$$
Solution two
$$ y = A exp(ikx) + B exp( -ikx)$$
When I told my teacher from where these solutions came from,she said the equation you are showing is a standard equation and you have to remember the solutions. But I want to know how did we reach at these solutions. I mean when we have first order differential equation, we obtain the solutions by Integration or by some any method using integration. I want somewhat that kind of solution which have been obtained by integration or I mean I don't want to cram these solutions but want to know from where they came from and what is the actual way to obtain them?
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Mostly guess-and-check, as most DE solutions are. You do need two linearly independent solutions, because of the theory of ODE's.
â Adrian Keister
Aug 27 at 17:11
Do you know how one solves $ay'' + by' + cy=0$ where $a,b,c$ are constants in general?
â Sobi
Aug 27 at 17:11
@Sabi, sorry to say but I don't. Please show me how to if it is related to my question.
â Gagan Saggu
Aug 27 at 17:15
@GaganSaggu You can find everything you need here.
â Sobi
Aug 27 at 17:16
That's not exactly correct. If $k=0$, the solutions are $Ax+B$.
â DisintegratingByParts
Aug 27 at 23:50
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What is the need to write two different solutions of the following equation ( although they are same solutions as I think) -
$$ D''y + (k)^2 y=0$$
( where D" means ordinary derivative of y with respect to x, and symbol ^ denotes power raised to )
Solution one
$$ y = A sin(kx) + B cos(kx)$$
Solution two
$$ y = A exp(ikx) + B exp( -ikx)$$
When I told my teacher from where these solutions came from,she said the equation you are showing is a standard equation and you have to remember the solutions. But I want to know how did we reach at these solutions. I mean when we have first order differential equation, we obtain the solutions by Integration or by some any method using integration. I want somewhat that kind of solution which have been obtained by integration or I mean I don't want to cram these solutions but want to know from where they came from and what is the actual way to obtain them?
differential-equations
What is the need to write two different solutions of the following equation ( although they are same solutions as I think) -
$$ D''y + (k)^2 y=0$$
( where D" means ordinary derivative of y with respect to x, and symbol ^ denotes power raised to )
Solution one
$$ y = A sin(kx) + B cos(kx)$$
Solution two
$$ y = A exp(ikx) + B exp( -ikx)$$
When I told my teacher from where these solutions came from,she said the equation you are showing is a standard equation and you have to remember the solutions. But I want to know how did we reach at these solutions. I mean when we have first order differential equation, we obtain the solutions by Integration or by some any method using integration. I want somewhat that kind of solution which have been obtained by integration or I mean I don't want to cram these solutions but want to know from where they came from and what is the actual way to obtain them?
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asked Aug 27 at 17:08
Gagan Saggu
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Mostly guess-and-check, as most DE solutions are. You do need two linearly independent solutions, because of the theory of ODE's.
â Adrian Keister
Aug 27 at 17:11
Do you know how one solves $ay'' + by' + cy=0$ where $a,b,c$ are constants in general?
â Sobi
Aug 27 at 17:11
@Sabi, sorry to say but I don't. Please show me how to if it is related to my question.
â Gagan Saggu
Aug 27 at 17:15
@GaganSaggu You can find everything you need here.
â Sobi
Aug 27 at 17:16
That's not exactly correct. If $k=0$, the solutions are $Ax+B$.
â DisintegratingByParts
Aug 27 at 23:50
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Mostly guess-and-check, as most DE solutions are. You do need two linearly independent solutions, because of the theory of ODE's.
â Adrian Keister
Aug 27 at 17:11
Do you know how one solves $ay'' + by' + cy=0$ where $a,b,c$ are constants in general?
â Sobi
Aug 27 at 17:11
@Sabi, sorry to say but I don't. Please show me how to if it is related to my question.
â Gagan Saggu
Aug 27 at 17:15
@GaganSaggu You can find everything you need here.
â Sobi
Aug 27 at 17:16
That's not exactly correct. If $k=0$, the solutions are $Ax+B$.
â DisintegratingByParts
Aug 27 at 23:50
1
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Mostly guess-and-check, as most DE solutions are. You do need two linearly independent solutions, because of the theory of ODE's.
â Adrian Keister
Aug 27 at 17:11
Mostly guess-and-check, as most DE solutions are. You do need two linearly independent solutions, because of the theory of ODE's.
â Adrian Keister
Aug 27 at 17:11
Do you know how one solves $ay'' + by' + cy=0$ where $a,b,c$ are constants in general?
â Sobi
Aug 27 at 17:11
Do you know how one solves $ay'' + by' + cy=0$ where $a,b,c$ are constants in general?
â Sobi
Aug 27 at 17:11
@Sabi, sorry to say but I don't. Please show me how to if it is related to my question.
â Gagan Saggu
Aug 27 at 17:15
@Sabi, sorry to say but I don't. Please show me how to if it is related to my question.
â Gagan Saggu
Aug 27 at 17:15
@GaganSaggu You can find everything you need here.
â Sobi
Aug 27 at 17:16
@GaganSaggu You can find everything you need here.
â Sobi
Aug 27 at 17:16
That's not exactly correct. If $k=0$, the solutions are $Ax+B$.
â DisintegratingByParts
Aug 27 at 23:50
That's not exactly correct. If $k=0$, the solutions are $Ax+B$.
â DisintegratingByParts
Aug 27 at 23:50
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You are looking for a solution to $$y''+k^2 y =0$$
That means you are looking for a function whose second derivative is a constant multiple of the original function.
What types of functions have the property that when you take second derivative you get a constant multiple of your function?
Well $$y= e^lambda x$$ is a good candidate.
Plug in your equation and solve for $lambda$ and you will get the correct answers.
In the process you need to know $$ e^ix = cos x + i sin x $$
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Solution two is equal to one
$$ y = A exp(ikx) + B exp( -ikx)=A(cos kx+i sin kx) + B (cos kx-i sin kx)=(A+B) cos kx+(A-iB) sin kx)= A_1 sin(kx) + B_1 cos(kx)$$
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You are looking for a solution to $$y''+k^2 y =0$$
That means you are looking for a function whose second derivative is a constant multiple of the original function.
What types of functions have the property that when you take second derivative you get a constant multiple of your function?
Well $$y= e^lambda x$$ is a good candidate.
Plug in your equation and solve for $lambda$ and you will get the correct answers.
In the process you need to know $$ e^ix = cos x + i sin x $$
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You are looking for a solution to $$y''+k^2 y =0$$
That means you are looking for a function whose second derivative is a constant multiple of the original function.
What types of functions have the property that when you take second derivative you get a constant multiple of your function?
Well $$y= e^lambda x$$ is a good candidate.
Plug in your equation and solve for $lambda$ and you will get the correct answers.
In the process you need to know $$ e^ix = cos x + i sin x $$
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You are looking for a solution to $$y''+k^2 y =0$$
That means you are looking for a function whose second derivative is a constant multiple of the original function.
What types of functions have the property that when you take second derivative you get a constant multiple of your function?
Well $$y= e^lambda x$$ is a good candidate.
Plug in your equation and solve for $lambda$ and you will get the correct answers.
In the process you need to know $$ e^ix = cos x + i sin x $$
You are looking for a solution to $$y''+k^2 y =0$$
That means you are looking for a function whose second derivative is a constant multiple of the original function.
What types of functions have the property that when you take second derivative you get a constant multiple of your function?
Well $$y= e^lambda x$$ is a good candidate.
Plug in your equation and solve for $lambda$ and you will get the correct answers.
In the process you need to know $$ e^ix = cos x + i sin x $$
answered Aug 27 at 17:19
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Solution two is equal to one
$$ y = A exp(ikx) + B exp( -ikx)=A(cos kx+i sin kx) + B (cos kx-i sin kx)=(A+B) cos kx+(A-iB) sin kx)= A_1 sin(kx) + B_1 cos(kx)$$
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Solution two is equal to one
$$ y = A exp(ikx) + B exp( -ikx)=A(cos kx+i sin kx) + B (cos kx-i sin kx)=(A+B) cos kx+(A-iB) sin kx)= A_1 sin(kx) + B_1 cos(kx)$$
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Solution two is equal to one
$$ y = A exp(ikx) + B exp( -ikx)=A(cos kx+i sin kx) + B (cos kx-i sin kx)=(A+B) cos kx+(A-iB) sin kx)= A_1 sin(kx) + B_1 cos(kx)$$
Solution two is equal to one
$$ y = A exp(ikx) + B exp( -ikx)=A(cos kx+i sin kx) + B (cos kx-i sin kx)=(A+B) cos kx+(A-iB) sin kx)= A_1 sin(kx) + B_1 cos(kx)$$
answered Aug 27 at 17:24
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Mostly guess-and-check, as most DE solutions are. You do need two linearly independent solutions, because of the theory of ODE's.
â Adrian Keister
Aug 27 at 17:11
Do you know how one solves $ay'' + by' + cy=0$ where $a,b,c$ are constants in general?
â Sobi
Aug 27 at 17:11
@Sabi, sorry to say but I don't. Please show me how to if it is related to my question.
â Gagan Saggu
Aug 27 at 17:15
@GaganSaggu You can find everything you need here.
â Sobi
Aug 27 at 17:16
That's not exactly correct. If $k=0$, the solutions are $Ax+B$.
â DisintegratingByParts
Aug 27 at 23:50