Is there a nice visualization of the length of a curve formula?

The name of the pictureThe name of the pictureThe name of the pictureClash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP











up vote
1
down vote

favorite












We know that if there is a curve $$Gamma=(x,y)inBbb R^2 : y=f(x), xin[a,b]$$ then
$$textlength(Gamma)=intlimits_a^bsqrt1+f'(t)^2dt$$
and I get that this is because
$$textlength(Gamma)=intlimits_Gamma1=intlimits_a^b1cdot|gamma'(t)|dt=intlimits_a^b|(gamma_1'(t),gamma_2'(t))|dt=intlimits_a^bsqrtgamma_1'(t)^2+gamma_2'(t)^2dt$$ where $gamma(t)=(gamma_1(t),gamma_2(t))=(t,f(t))$



But $sqrt1+f'(t)^2$ is another function in itself and I would like to see what it corresponds to, is there a way of comparing the two functions in a more meaningful way then just the reasoning that I wrote above?



I am looking for an animation or a drawing or simply an explanation.







share|cite|improve this question


























    up vote
    1
    down vote

    favorite












    We know that if there is a curve $$Gamma=(x,y)inBbb R^2 : y=f(x), xin[a,b]$$ then
    $$textlength(Gamma)=intlimits_a^bsqrt1+f'(t)^2dt$$
    and I get that this is because
    $$textlength(Gamma)=intlimits_Gamma1=intlimits_a^b1cdot|gamma'(t)|dt=intlimits_a^b|(gamma_1'(t),gamma_2'(t))|dt=intlimits_a^bsqrtgamma_1'(t)^2+gamma_2'(t)^2dt$$ where $gamma(t)=(gamma_1(t),gamma_2(t))=(t,f(t))$



    But $sqrt1+f'(t)^2$ is another function in itself and I would like to see what it corresponds to, is there a way of comparing the two functions in a more meaningful way then just the reasoning that I wrote above?



    I am looking for an animation or a drawing or simply an explanation.







    share|cite|improve this question
























      up vote
      1
      down vote

      favorite









      up vote
      1
      down vote

      favorite











      We know that if there is a curve $$Gamma=(x,y)inBbb R^2 : y=f(x), xin[a,b]$$ then
      $$textlength(Gamma)=intlimits_a^bsqrt1+f'(t)^2dt$$
      and I get that this is because
      $$textlength(Gamma)=intlimits_Gamma1=intlimits_a^b1cdot|gamma'(t)|dt=intlimits_a^b|(gamma_1'(t),gamma_2'(t))|dt=intlimits_a^bsqrtgamma_1'(t)^2+gamma_2'(t)^2dt$$ where $gamma(t)=(gamma_1(t),gamma_2(t))=(t,f(t))$



      But $sqrt1+f'(t)^2$ is another function in itself and I would like to see what it corresponds to, is there a way of comparing the two functions in a more meaningful way then just the reasoning that I wrote above?



      I am looking for an animation or a drawing or simply an explanation.







      share|cite|improve this question














      We know that if there is a curve $$Gamma=(x,y)inBbb R^2 : y=f(x), xin[a,b]$$ then
      $$textlength(Gamma)=intlimits_a^bsqrt1+f'(t)^2dt$$
      and I get that this is because
      $$textlength(Gamma)=intlimits_Gamma1=intlimits_a^b1cdot|gamma'(t)|dt=intlimits_a^b|(gamma_1'(t),gamma_2'(t))|dt=intlimits_a^bsqrtgamma_1'(t)^2+gamma_2'(t)^2dt$$ where $gamma(t)=(gamma_1(t),gamma_2(t))=(t,f(t))$



      But $sqrt1+f'(t)^2$ is another function in itself and I would like to see what it corresponds to, is there a way of comparing the two functions in a more meaningful way then just the reasoning that I wrote above?



      I am looking for an animation or a drawing or simply an explanation.









      share|cite|improve this question













      share|cite|improve this question




      share|cite|improve this question








      edited Sep 5 at 14:05

























      asked Aug 27 at 17:22









      John Cataldo

      8191115




      8191115




















          3 Answers
          3






          active

          oldest

          votes

















          up vote
          1
          down vote



          accepted










          The formula arises from an analysis of the curve $(t,f(t))$. Suppose you move from
          a point $p_1=(t_1,f(t_1))$ to a point $p_2(t_2,f(t_2))$ on the curve, with $t_1<t_2$. If $t_1,t_2$ are sufficiently close to each other, the distance between these two points is close to the length of the piece of the curve between the points $p_1,p_2$. Now the distance is simply:
          $$d(p_1,p_2)=sqrt(t_2-t_1)^2+(f(t_2)-f(t_1))^2$$
          Assuming $f$ is differentiable, the mean value theorem guarantees that we can find a point $xiin(t_1,t_2)$ such that
          $$f(t_2)-f(t_1)=f'(xi)(t_2-t_1)$$
          so we can write
          $$d(p_1,p_2)=sqrt(t_1-t_2)^2+(f^'(xi))^2(t_2-t_1)^2=(t_2-t_1)sqrt1+(f'(xi))^2$$
          Now if we partition the curve into points $(t_1,f(t_1)),(t_2,f(t_2)),dots,(t_n,f(t_n))$ and add all these distances we just calculated, we obtain the sum
          $$sum_i=1^n(t_i+1-t_i)sqrt(f'(xi_i))^2+1$$
          which is a Riemman sum for the integral $int_a^bsqrt1+(f'(x))^2,dx$.






          share|cite|improve this answer



























            up vote
            1
            down vote













            If $gamma(t)=(x(t),y(t))$ then $gamma'(t)=(x'(t),y'(t))$ and $gamma'(t)dt = (dx,dy)$, so the infinitesimal element of length is $sqrtdx^2+dy^2 = |gamma'(t)|,dt$ and $|gamma'(t)|=sqrtleft(fracdxdtright)^2+left(fracdydtright)^2$. If $gamma$ is the graph of a function we have $x(t)=t$ and $y(t)=f(t)$, so $|gamma'(t)|=sqrt1+f'(x)^2$. Long story short, they are exactly the same formula.






            share|cite|improve this answer




















            • Hmm yes, but isn't this kind the same as what I wrote?
              – John Cataldo
              Aug 27 at 17:34










            • @JohnCataldo: you wrote [...] is another function in itself and I am pointing out that no, it is not a different function. It is just the same object. The element of length is the same, despite the chosen coordinates. Of course its representation changes accordingly.
              – Jack D'Aurizio♦
              Aug 27 at 17:36











            • I mean it's a pretty different function from $f$, I was interested in the relationship between $f$ and the function whose integral gives the length of the graph of $f$ (in a visual way)
              – John Cataldo
              Aug 27 at 17:38











            • @JohnCataldo: and what else do you expect besides the definition $g(t)=sqrt1+f'(t)^2$? A comparison between the $L^2$ norms, leading to the isoperimetric inequality?
              – Jack D'Aurizio♦
              Aug 27 at 17:39






            • 1




              @JohnCataldo: oh, all right. Then we have that $g(t)approx 1$ in the regions where the derivative of $f$ is small (i.e. $f$ is slowly increasing/decreasing), and $g(t)approx left|f'(t)right|=|tantheta|$ in the regions where $f(t)$ is rapidly increasing or decreasing.
              – Jack D'Aurizio♦
              Aug 27 at 17:44

















            up vote
            1
            down vote













            I did not feel like drawing so I'm just going to write.



            Imagine the graph of a function, and on it two points $f(x)$ and $f(x+Delta x)$. Sketch lines through these points that are parallel to the axes - this will form two right triangles which are essentially the same.



            On both of these triangles, one of the legs has length $Delta x$, and the other $vert f(x)-f(x+Delta x) vert.$ By Pythagoras, the hypothenuse therefore has length
            $$sqrt(Delta x)^2 + (f(x)-f(x+Delta x))^2.$$
            The hypothenuse is a good approximation of the length of the curve generated by $f$ between $x$ and $x+Delta x$.



            Now,
            $$sqrt(Delta x)^2 + (f(x)-f(x+Delta x))^2 = Delta x sqrt1 + left(fracf(x)-f(x+Delta x)Delta xright)^2,$$
            which becomes
            $$ sqrt1+(f')^2;dx $$
            when you let $Delta x to 0$.
            So you can think of this function as an infinitesimal length of the curve $f$ gives rise to.






            share|cite|improve this answer




















              Your Answer




              StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function ()
              return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function ()
              StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix)
              StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
              );
              );
              , "mathjax-editing");

              StackExchange.ready(function()
              var channelOptions =
              tags: "".split(" "),
              id: "69"
              ;
              initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

              StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
              // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
              if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
              StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
              createEditor();
              );

              else
              createEditor();

              );

              function createEditor()
              StackExchange.prepareEditor(
              heartbeatType: 'answer',
              convertImagesToLinks: true,
              noModals: false,
              showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
              reputationToPostImages: 10,
              bindNavPrevention: true,
              postfix: "",
              noCode: true, onDemand: true,
              discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
              ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
              );



              );













               

              draft saved


              draft discarded


















              StackExchange.ready(
              function ()
              StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2896430%2fis-there-a-nice-visualization-of-the-length-of-a-curve-formula%23new-answer', 'question_page');

              );

              Post as a guest






























              3 Answers
              3






              active

              oldest

              votes








              3 Answers
              3






              active

              oldest

              votes









              active

              oldest

              votes






              active

              oldest

              votes








              up vote
              1
              down vote



              accepted










              The formula arises from an analysis of the curve $(t,f(t))$. Suppose you move from
              a point $p_1=(t_1,f(t_1))$ to a point $p_2(t_2,f(t_2))$ on the curve, with $t_1<t_2$. If $t_1,t_2$ are sufficiently close to each other, the distance between these two points is close to the length of the piece of the curve between the points $p_1,p_2$. Now the distance is simply:
              $$d(p_1,p_2)=sqrt(t_2-t_1)^2+(f(t_2)-f(t_1))^2$$
              Assuming $f$ is differentiable, the mean value theorem guarantees that we can find a point $xiin(t_1,t_2)$ such that
              $$f(t_2)-f(t_1)=f'(xi)(t_2-t_1)$$
              so we can write
              $$d(p_1,p_2)=sqrt(t_1-t_2)^2+(f^'(xi))^2(t_2-t_1)^2=(t_2-t_1)sqrt1+(f'(xi))^2$$
              Now if we partition the curve into points $(t_1,f(t_1)),(t_2,f(t_2)),dots,(t_n,f(t_n))$ and add all these distances we just calculated, we obtain the sum
              $$sum_i=1^n(t_i+1-t_i)sqrt(f'(xi_i))^2+1$$
              which is a Riemman sum for the integral $int_a^bsqrt1+(f'(x))^2,dx$.






              share|cite|improve this answer
























                up vote
                1
                down vote



                accepted










                The formula arises from an analysis of the curve $(t,f(t))$. Suppose you move from
                a point $p_1=(t_1,f(t_1))$ to a point $p_2(t_2,f(t_2))$ on the curve, with $t_1<t_2$. If $t_1,t_2$ are sufficiently close to each other, the distance between these two points is close to the length of the piece of the curve between the points $p_1,p_2$. Now the distance is simply:
                $$d(p_1,p_2)=sqrt(t_2-t_1)^2+(f(t_2)-f(t_1))^2$$
                Assuming $f$ is differentiable, the mean value theorem guarantees that we can find a point $xiin(t_1,t_2)$ such that
                $$f(t_2)-f(t_1)=f'(xi)(t_2-t_1)$$
                so we can write
                $$d(p_1,p_2)=sqrt(t_1-t_2)^2+(f^'(xi))^2(t_2-t_1)^2=(t_2-t_1)sqrt1+(f'(xi))^2$$
                Now if we partition the curve into points $(t_1,f(t_1)),(t_2,f(t_2)),dots,(t_n,f(t_n))$ and add all these distances we just calculated, we obtain the sum
                $$sum_i=1^n(t_i+1-t_i)sqrt(f'(xi_i))^2+1$$
                which is a Riemman sum for the integral $int_a^bsqrt1+(f'(x))^2,dx$.






                share|cite|improve this answer






















                  up vote
                  1
                  down vote



                  accepted







                  up vote
                  1
                  down vote



                  accepted






                  The formula arises from an analysis of the curve $(t,f(t))$. Suppose you move from
                  a point $p_1=(t_1,f(t_1))$ to a point $p_2(t_2,f(t_2))$ on the curve, with $t_1<t_2$. If $t_1,t_2$ are sufficiently close to each other, the distance between these two points is close to the length of the piece of the curve between the points $p_1,p_2$. Now the distance is simply:
                  $$d(p_1,p_2)=sqrt(t_2-t_1)^2+(f(t_2)-f(t_1))^2$$
                  Assuming $f$ is differentiable, the mean value theorem guarantees that we can find a point $xiin(t_1,t_2)$ such that
                  $$f(t_2)-f(t_1)=f'(xi)(t_2-t_1)$$
                  so we can write
                  $$d(p_1,p_2)=sqrt(t_1-t_2)^2+(f^'(xi))^2(t_2-t_1)^2=(t_2-t_1)sqrt1+(f'(xi))^2$$
                  Now if we partition the curve into points $(t_1,f(t_1)),(t_2,f(t_2)),dots,(t_n,f(t_n))$ and add all these distances we just calculated, we obtain the sum
                  $$sum_i=1^n(t_i+1-t_i)sqrt(f'(xi_i))^2+1$$
                  which is a Riemman sum for the integral $int_a^bsqrt1+(f'(x))^2,dx$.






                  share|cite|improve this answer












                  The formula arises from an analysis of the curve $(t,f(t))$. Suppose you move from
                  a point $p_1=(t_1,f(t_1))$ to a point $p_2(t_2,f(t_2))$ on the curve, with $t_1<t_2$. If $t_1,t_2$ are sufficiently close to each other, the distance between these two points is close to the length of the piece of the curve between the points $p_1,p_2$. Now the distance is simply:
                  $$d(p_1,p_2)=sqrt(t_2-t_1)^2+(f(t_2)-f(t_1))^2$$
                  Assuming $f$ is differentiable, the mean value theorem guarantees that we can find a point $xiin(t_1,t_2)$ such that
                  $$f(t_2)-f(t_1)=f'(xi)(t_2-t_1)$$
                  so we can write
                  $$d(p_1,p_2)=sqrt(t_1-t_2)^2+(f^'(xi))^2(t_2-t_1)^2=(t_2-t_1)sqrt1+(f'(xi))^2$$
                  Now if we partition the curve into points $(t_1,f(t_1)),(t_2,f(t_2)),dots,(t_n,f(t_n))$ and add all these distances we just calculated, we obtain the sum
                  $$sum_i=1^n(t_i+1-t_i)sqrt(f'(xi_i))^2+1$$
                  which is a Riemman sum for the integral $int_a^bsqrt1+(f'(x))^2,dx$.







                  share|cite|improve this answer












                  share|cite|improve this answer



                  share|cite|improve this answer










                  answered Aug 27 at 17:45









                  uniquesolution

                  8,281823




                  8,281823




















                      up vote
                      1
                      down vote













                      If $gamma(t)=(x(t),y(t))$ then $gamma'(t)=(x'(t),y'(t))$ and $gamma'(t)dt = (dx,dy)$, so the infinitesimal element of length is $sqrtdx^2+dy^2 = |gamma'(t)|,dt$ and $|gamma'(t)|=sqrtleft(fracdxdtright)^2+left(fracdydtright)^2$. If $gamma$ is the graph of a function we have $x(t)=t$ and $y(t)=f(t)$, so $|gamma'(t)|=sqrt1+f'(x)^2$. Long story short, they are exactly the same formula.






                      share|cite|improve this answer




















                      • Hmm yes, but isn't this kind the same as what I wrote?
                        – John Cataldo
                        Aug 27 at 17:34










                      • @JohnCataldo: you wrote [...] is another function in itself and I am pointing out that no, it is not a different function. It is just the same object. The element of length is the same, despite the chosen coordinates. Of course its representation changes accordingly.
                        – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                        Aug 27 at 17:36











                      • I mean it's a pretty different function from $f$, I was interested in the relationship between $f$ and the function whose integral gives the length of the graph of $f$ (in a visual way)
                        – John Cataldo
                        Aug 27 at 17:38











                      • @JohnCataldo: and what else do you expect besides the definition $g(t)=sqrt1+f'(t)^2$? A comparison between the $L^2$ norms, leading to the isoperimetric inequality?
                        – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                        Aug 27 at 17:39






                      • 1




                        @JohnCataldo: oh, all right. Then we have that $g(t)approx 1$ in the regions where the derivative of $f$ is small (i.e. $f$ is slowly increasing/decreasing), and $g(t)approx left|f'(t)right|=|tantheta|$ in the regions where $f(t)$ is rapidly increasing or decreasing.
                        – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                        Aug 27 at 17:44














                      up vote
                      1
                      down vote













                      If $gamma(t)=(x(t),y(t))$ then $gamma'(t)=(x'(t),y'(t))$ and $gamma'(t)dt = (dx,dy)$, so the infinitesimal element of length is $sqrtdx^2+dy^2 = |gamma'(t)|,dt$ and $|gamma'(t)|=sqrtleft(fracdxdtright)^2+left(fracdydtright)^2$. If $gamma$ is the graph of a function we have $x(t)=t$ and $y(t)=f(t)$, so $|gamma'(t)|=sqrt1+f'(x)^2$. Long story short, they are exactly the same formula.






                      share|cite|improve this answer




















                      • Hmm yes, but isn't this kind the same as what I wrote?
                        – John Cataldo
                        Aug 27 at 17:34










                      • @JohnCataldo: you wrote [...] is another function in itself and I am pointing out that no, it is not a different function. It is just the same object. The element of length is the same, despite the chosen coordinates. Of course its representation changes accordingly.
                        – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                        Aug 27 at 17:36











                      • I mean it's a pretty different function from $f$, I was interested in the relationship between $f$ and the function whose integral gives the length of the graph of $f$ (in a visual way)
                        – John Cataldo
                        Aug 27 at 17:38











                      • @JohnCataldo: and what else do you expect besides the definition $g(t)=sqrt1+f'(t)^2$? A comparison between the $L^2$ norms, leading to the isoperimetric inequality?
                        – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                        Aug 27 at 17:39






                      • 1




                        @JohnCataldo: oh, all right. Then we have that $g(t)approx 1$ in the regions where the derivative of $f$ is small (i.e. $f$ is slowly increasing/decreasing), and $g(t)approx left|f'(t)right|=|tantheta|$ in the regions where $f(t)$ is rapidly increasing or decreasing.
                        – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                        Aug 27 at 17:44












                      up vote
                      1
                      down vote










                      up vote
                      1
                      down vote









                      If $gamma(t)=(x(t),y(t))$ then $gamma'(t)=(x'(t),y'(t))$ and $gamma'(t)dt = (dx,dy)$, so the infinitesimal element of length is $sqrtdx^2+dy^2 = |gamma'(t)|,dt$ and $|gamma'(t)|=sqrtleft(fracdxdtright)^2+left(fracdydtright)^2$. If $gamma$ is the graph of a function we have $x(t)=t$ and $y(t)=f(t)$, so $|gamma'(t)|=sqrt1+f'(x)^2$. Long story short, they are exactly the same formula.






                      share|cite|improve this answer












                      If $gamma(t)=(x(t),y(t))$ then $gamma'(t)=(x'(t),y'(t))$ and $gamma'(t)dt = (dx,dy)$, so the infinitesimal element of length is $sqrtdx^2+dy^2 = |gamma'(t)|,dt$ and $|gamma'(t)|=sqrtleft(fracdxdtright)^2+left(fracdydtright)^2$. If $gamma$ is the graph of a function we have $x(t)=t$ and $y(t)=f(t)$, so $|gamma'(t)|=sqrt1+f'(x)^2$. Long story short, they are exactly the same formula.







                      share|cite|improve this answer












                      share|cite|improve this answer



                      share|cite|improve this answer










                      answered Aug 27 at 17:30









                      Jack D'Aurizio♦

                      273k32268637




                      273k32268637











                      • Hmm yes, but isn't this kind the same as what I wrote?
                        – John Cataldo
                        Aug 27 at 17:34










                      • @JohnCataldo: you wrote [...] is another function in itself and I am pointing out that no, it is not a different function. It is just the same object. The element of length is the same, despite the chosen coordinates. Of course its representation changes accordingly.
                        – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                        Aug 27 at 17:36











                      • I mean it's a pretty different function from $f$, I was interested in the relationship between $f$ and the function whose integral gives the length of the graph of $f$ (in a visual way)
                        – John Cataldo
                        Aug 27 at 17:38











                      • @JohnCataldo: and what else do you expect besides the definition $g(t)=sqrt1+f'(t)^2$? A comparison between the $L^2$ norms, leading to the isoperimetric inequality?
                        – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                        Aug 27 at 17:39






                      • 1




                        @JohnCataldo: oh, all right. Then we have that $g(t)approx 1$ in the regions where the derivative of $f$ is small (i.e. $f$ is slowly increasing/decreasing), and $g(t)approx left|f'(t)right|=|tantheta|$ in the regions where $f(t)$ is rapidly increasing or decreasing.
                        – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                        Aug 27 at 17:44
















                      • Hmm yes, but isn't this kind the same as what I wrote?
                        – John Cataldo
                        Aug 27 at 17:34










                      • @JohnCataldo: you wrote [...] is another function in itself and I am pointing out that no, it is not a different function. It is just the same object. The element of length is the same, despite the chosen coordinates. Of course its representation changes accordingly.
                        – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                        Aug 27 at 17:36











                      • I mean it's a pretty different function from $f$, I was interested in the relationship between $f$ and the function whose integral gives the length of the graph of $f$ (in a visual way)
                        – John Cataldo
                        Aug 27 at 17:38











                      • @JohnCataldo: and what else do you expect besides the definition $g(t)=sqrt1+f'(t)^2$? A comparison between the $L^2$ norms, leading to the isoperimetric inequality?
                        – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                        Aug 27 at 17:39






                      • 1




                        @JohnCataldo: oh, all right. Then we have that $g(t)approx 1$ in the regions where the derivative of $f$ is small (i.e. $f$ is slowly increasing/decreasing), and $g(t)approx left|f'(t)right|=|tantheta|$ in the regions where $f(t)$ is rapidly increasing or decreasing.
                        – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                        Aug 27 at 17:44















                      Hmm yes, but isn't this kind the same as what I wrote?
                      – John Cataldo
                      Aug 27 at 17:34




                      Hmm yes, but isn't this kind the same as what I wrote?
                      – John Cataldo
                      Aug 27 at 17:34












                      @JohnCataldo: you wrote [...] is another function in itself and I am pointing out that no, it is not a different function. It is just the same object. The element of length is the same, despite the chosen coordinates. Of course its representation changes accordingly.
                      – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                      Aug 27 at 17:36





                      @JohnCataldo: you wrote [...] is another function in itself and I am pointing out that no, it is not a different function. It is just the same object. The element of length is the same, despite the chosen coordinates. Of course its representation changes accordingly.
                      – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                      Aug 27 at 17:36













                      I mean it's a pretty different function from $f$, I was interested in the relationship between $f$ and the function whose integral gives the length of the graph of $f$ (in a visual way)
                      – John Cataldo
                      Aug 27 at 17:38





                      I mean it's a pretty different function from $f$, I was interested in the relationship between $f$ and the function whose integral gives the length of the graph of $f$ (in a visual way)
                      – John Cataldo
                      Aug 27 at 17:38













                      @JohnCataldo: and what else do you expect besides the definition $g(t)=sqrt1+f'(t)^2$? A comparison between the $L^2$ norms, leading to the isoperimetric inequality?
                      – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                      Aug 27 at 17:39




                      @JohnCataldo: and what else do you expect besides the definition $g(t)=sqrt1+f'(t)^2$? A comparison between the $L^2$ norms, leading to the isoperimetric inequality?
                      – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                      Aug 27 at 17:39




                      1




                      1




                      @JohnCataldo: oh, all right. Then we have that $g(t)approx 1$ in the regions where the derivative of $f$ is small (i.e. $f$ is slowly increasing/decreasing), and $g(t)approx left|f'(t)right|=|tantheta|$ in the regions where $f(t)$ is rapidly increasing or decreasing.
                      – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                      Aug 27 at 17:44




                      @JohnCataldo: oh, all right. Then we have that $g(t)approx 1$ in the regions where the derivative of $f$ is small (i.e. $f$ is slowly increasing/decreasing), and $g(t)approx left|f'(t)right|=|tantheta|$ in the regions where $f(t)$ is rapidly increasing or decreasing.
                      – Jack D'Aurizio♦
                      Aug 27 at 17:44










                      up vote
                      1
                      down vote













                      I did not feel like drawing so I'm just going to write.



                      Imagine the graph of a function, and on it two points $f(x)$ and $f(x+Delta x)$. Sketch lines through these points that are parallel to the axes - this will form two right triangles which are essentially the same.



                      On both of these triangles, one of the legs has length $Delta x$, and the other $vert f(x)-f(x+Delta x) vert.$ By Pythagoras, the hypothenuse therefore has length
                      $$sqrt(Delta x)^2 + (f(x)-f(x+Delta x))^2.$$
                      The hypothenuse is a good approximation of the length of the curve generated by $f$ between $x$ and $x+Delta x$.



                      Now,
                      $$sqrt(Delta x)^2 + (f(x)-f(x+Delta x))^2 = Delta x sqrt1 + left(fracf(x)-f(x+Delta x)Delta xright)^2,$$
                      which becomes
                      $$ sqrt1+(f')^2;dx $$
                      when you let $Delta x to 0$.
                      So you can think of this function as an infinitesimal length of the curve $f$ gives rise to.






                      share|cite|improve this answer
























                        up vote
                        1
                        down vote













                        I did not feel like drawing so I'm just going to write.



                        Imagine the graph of a function, and on it two points $f(x)$ and $f(x+Delta x)$. Sketch lines through these points that are parallel to the axes - this will form two right triangles which are essentially the same.



                        On both of these triangles, one of the legs has length $Delta x$, and the other $vert f(x)-f(x+Delta x) vert.$ By Pythagoras, the hypothenuse therefore has length
                        $$sqrt(Delta x)^2 + (f(x)-f(x+Delta x))^2.$$
                        The hypothenuse is a good approximation of the length of the curve generated by $f$ between $x$ and $x+Delta x$.



                        Now,
                        $$sqrt(Delta x)^2 + (f(x)-f(x+Delta x))^2 = Delta x sqrt1 + left(fracf(x)-f(x+Delta x)Delta xright)^2,$$
                        which becomes
                        $$ sqrt1+(f')^2;dx $$
                        when you let $Delta x to 0$.
                        So you can think of this function as an infinitesimal length of the curve $f$ gives rise to.






                        share|cite|improve this answer






















                          up vote
                          1
                          down vote










                          up vote
                          1
                          down vote









                          I did not feel like drawing so I'm just going to write.



                          Imagine the graph of a function, and on it two points $f(x)$ and $f(x+Delta x)$. Sketch lines through these points that are parallel to the axes - this will form two right triangles which are essentially the same.



                          On both of these triangles, one of the legs has length $Delta x$, and the other $vert f(x)-f(x+Delta x) vert.$ By Pythagoras, the hypothenuse therefore has length
                          $$sqrt(Delta x)^2 + (f(x)-f(x+Delta x))^2.$$
                          The hypothenuse is a good approximation of the length of the curve generated by $f$ between $x$ and $x+Delta x$.



                          Now,
                          $$sqrt(Delta x)^2 + (f(x)-f(x+Delta x))^2 = Delta x sqrt1 + left(fracf(x)-f(x+Delta x)Delta xright)^2,$$
                          which becomes
                          $$ sqrt1+(f')^2;dx $$
                          when you let $Delta x to 0$.
                          So you can think of this function as an infinitesimal length of the curve $f$ gives rise to.






                          share|cite|improve this answer












                          I did not feel like drawing so I'm just going to write.



                          Imagine the graph of a function, and on it two points $f(x)$ and $f(x+Delta x)$. Sketch lines through these points that are parallel to the axes - this will form two right triangles which are essentially the same.



                          On both of these triangles, one of the legs has length $Delta x$, and the other $vert f(x)-f(x+Delta x) vert.$ By Pythagoras, the hypothenuse therefore has length
                          $$sqrt(Delta x)^2 + (f(x)-f(x+Delta x))^2.$$
                          The hypothenuse is a good approximation of the length of the curve generated by $f$ between $x$ and $x+Delta x$.



                          Now,
                          $$sqrt(Delta x)^2 + (f(x)-f(x+Delta x))^2 = Delta x sqrt1 + left(fracf(x)-f(x+Delta x)Delta xright)^2,$$
                          which becomes
                          $$ sqrt1+(f')^2;dx $$
                          when you let $Delta x to 0$.
                          So you can think of this function as an infinitesimal length of the curve $f$ gives rise to.







                          share|cite|improve this answer












                          share|cite|improve this answer



                          share|cite|improve this answer










                          answered Aug 27 at 17:40









                          Sobi

                          2,418315




                          2,418315



























                               

                              draft saved


                              draft discarded















































                               


                              draft saved


                              draft discarded














                              StackExchange.ready(
                              function ()
                              StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2896430%2fis-there-a-nice-visualization-of-the-length-of-a-curve-formula%23new-answer', 'question_page');

                              );

                              Post as a guest













































































                              這個網誌中的熱門文章

                              How to combine Bézier curves to a surface?

                              Mutual Information Always Non-negative

                              Why am i infinitely getting the same tweet with the Twitter Search API?