Evaluate $lim_xrightarrow0frac(x-arctan(x))ln(1+2sin(x))(1+cosx)(e^x-1-x)^2$ using Taylor

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I want to evaluate the following limit:
$$lim_xrightarrow0frac(x-arctan(x))ln(1+2sin(x))(1+cosx)(e^x-1-x)^2$$
For example, we have $x-arctanx$. They are both $0$. This seems to be the so called "cancellation of terms". Therefore I apply the Taylor series:
$$arctanx=x-fracx^33+o(x^3)$$
Therefore
$$x-arctanxsim x-x +fracx^33+o(x^3)=fracx^33+o(x^3)$$
Somebody solved this problem textbook and developed this to the fifth term (not third). Now a few questions arise:
- Why do I need to develop this Taylor series to the fifth term (assuming I have to).
- Do I need to develop every function to the same term in my limit?
Any hints?
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I want to evaluate the following limit:
$$lim_xrightarrow0frac(x-arctan(x))ln(1+2sin(x))(1+cosx)(e^x-1-x)^2$$
For example, we have $x-arctanx$. They are both $0$. This seems to be the so called "cancellation of terms". Therefore I apply the Taylor series:
$$arctanx=x-fracx^33+o(x^3)$$
Therefore
$$x-arctanxsim x-x +fracx^33+o(x^3)=fracx^33+o(x^3)$$
Somebody solved this problem textbook and developed this to the fifth term (not third). Now a few questions arise:
- Why do I need to develop this Taylor series to the fifth term (assuming I have to).
- Do I need to develop every function to the same term in my limit?
Any hints?
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I want to evaluate the following limit:
$$lim_xrightarrow0frac(x-arctan(x))ln(1+2sin(x))(1+cosx)(e^x-1-x)^2$$
For example, we have $x-arctanx$. They are both $0$. This seems to be the so called "cancellation of terms". Therefore I apply the Taylor series:
$$arctanx=x-fracx^33+o(x^3)$$
Therefore
$$x-arctanxsim x-x +fracx^33+o(x^3)=fracx^33+o(x^3)$$
Somebody solved this problem textbook and developed this to the fifth term (not third). Now a few questions arise:
- Why do I need to develop this Taylor series to the fifth term (assuming I have to).
- Do I need to develop every function to the same term in my limit?
Any hints?
calculus limits taylor-expansion
I want to evaluate the following limit:
$$lim_xrightarrow0frac(x-arctan(x))ln(1+2sin(x))(1+cosx)(e^x-1-x)^2$$
For example, we have $x-arctanx$. They are both $0$. This seems to be the so called "cancellation of terms". Therefore I apply the Taylor series:
$$arctanx=x-fracx^33+o(x^3)$$
Therefore
$$x-arctanxsim x-x +fracx^33+o(x^3)=fracx^33+o(x^3)$$
Somebody solved this problem textbook and developed this to the fifth term (not third). Now a few questions arise:
- Why do I need to develop this Taylor series to the fifth term (assuming I have to).
- Do I need to develop every function to the same term in my limit?
Any hints?
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calculus limits taylor-expansion
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For the direct questions: One must, needs to, determine powers of the expansion beyond constant factors to determine the behavior of the expansions; Not every function has the same powers in an expansion. The result then becomes "at least get a few powers of $x$ of each function".
This becomes more familiar by the example in question. Consider each of the four functions first:
beginalign
x - tan^-1(x) &= fracx^33 - fracx^55 + fracx^77 + mathcalO(x^9) \
ln(1 + 2 , sin(x)) &= 2 x - 2 x^2 + frac7 x^33 - frac10 x^43 + mathcalO(x^5) \
1 + cos(x) &= 2 cos^2left(fracx2right) = 2 - fracx^22 + fracx^424 + mathcalO(x^6) \
(e^x - 1 - x)^2 &= fracx^44 + fracx^56 + frac5 x^672 + mathcalO(x^7).
endalign
With these expansions it is seen that the growth of powers of $x$ are not the same, but at least each expansion has powers of $x^4$ or greater.
Now, for the limit.
beginalign
F(x) &= frac(x - tan^-1(x) ) , ln(1 + 2 , sin(x))2 , cos^2left(fracx2right) , (e^x - 1 - x)^2 \
&= fracleft(fracx^33 - fracx^55 + fracx^77 + cdotsright) left( 2 x - 2 x^2 + frac7 x^33 - frac10 x^43 + cdotsright)left(2 - fracx^22 + fracx^424 + cdots right) left(fracx^44 + fracx^56 + frac5 x^672 + cdots right) \
&= fracfrac2 x^43 - frac2 x^53 + frac17 x^645 + cdotsfracx^42 + fracx^56 + fracx^672 + cdots \
&= fracfrac23 - frac2 x3 + frac17 x^245 + cdotsfrac12 + fracx6 + fracx^272 + cdots \
&= frac43 , left( 1 - frac4 x3 + frac49 x^236 + cdots right)
endalign
and
beginalign
lim_x to 0 F(x) &= lim_x to 0 frac43 , left( 1 - frac4 x3 + frac49 x^236 + mathcalO(x^3) right) \
&= frac43
endalign
Thanks, why did you decide to get at least powers of $x^4$?
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 19:26
@Cesare For the exponential term the expansion starts with $x^4$, so terms have to be at least one greater than this, ie $x^5$. In the resulting limit it turns out that powers greater than $x^2$ are not really beneficial.
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Sep 10 at 19:52
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You don't need to expand every function in your fraction to the same limit. For example, $1+cos xto 2$ as $xto 0$ so you don't need to anything at all here.
Thus, the only problem is now $$(e^x-1-x)^2 = left(fracx^22+o(x^2)right)^2 = x^4left(frac 14+o(x)right)$$
This means you just need to match this up in your numerator and it should be obvious from this point on.
Thank you. What do you mean by "you just need to match this up in your numerator"? I don't understand.
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 18:36
@Cesare if this problem is well-posed, meaning the answer is a finite number, then it must be the case that the numerator is of the same order $O(x^4)$. This means that you need to expand the two terms in the numerator to high enough power to obtain and verify that indeed the numerator is equal to something like $Cx^4+o(x).$
â dezdichado
Sep 10 at 18:47
Thanks, so you mean that the numerator must be of the same power of the denominator?
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 18:49
yes if and only if the limit is finite.
â dezdichado
Sep 10 at 19:09
The other answer proves otherwise
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1.i have used the expansion of e^x , as have used the standsr limits.
2. you expand till the terms, such that order if zero in numerator and denominator can be compared to one and other
i have missed 2 in denominator
Hi, I can't see the image you posted.
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For the direct questions: One must, needs to, determine powers of the expansion beyond constant factors to determine the behavior of the expansions; Not every function has the same powers in an expansion. The result then becomes "at least get a few powers of $x$ of each function".
This becomes more familiar by the example in question. Consider each of the four functions first:
beginalign
x - tan^-1(x) &= fracx^33 - fracx^55 + fracx^77 + mathcalO(x^9) \
ln(1 + 2 , sin(x)) &= 2 x - 2 x^2 + frac7 x^33 - frac10 x^43 + mathcalO(x^5) \
1 + cos(x) &= 2 cos^2left(fracx2right) = 2 - fracx^22 + fracx^424 + mathcalO(x^6) \
(e^x - 1 - x)^2 &= fracx^44 + fracx^56 + frac5 x^672 + mathcalO(x^7).
endalign
With these expansions it is seen that the growth of powers of $x$ are not the same, but at least each expansion has powers of $x^4$ or greater.
Now, for the limit.
beginalign
F(x) &= frac(x - tan^-1(x) ) , ln(1 + 2 , sin(x))2 , cos^2left(fracx2right) , (e^x - 1 - x)^2 \
&= fracleft(fracx^33 - fracx^55 + fracx^77 + cdotsright) left( 2 x - 2 x^2 + frac7 x^33 - frac10 x^43 + cdotsright)left(2 - fracx^22 + fracx^424 + cdots right) left(fracx^44 + fracx^56 + frac5 x^672 + cdots right) \
&= fracfrac2 x^43 - frac2 x^53 + frac17 x^645 + cdotsfracx^42 + fracx^56 + fracx^672 + cdots \
&= fracfrac23 - frac2 x3 + frac17 x^245 + cdotsfrac12 + fracx6 + fracx^272 + cdots \
&= frac43 , left( 1 - frac4 x3 + frac49 x^236 + cdots right)
endalign
and
beginalign
lim_x to 0 F(x) &= lim_x to 0 frac43 , left( 1 - frac4 x3 + frac49 x^236 + mathcalO(x^3) right) \
&= frac43
endalign
Thanks, why did you decide to get at least powers of $x^4$?
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 19:26
@Cesare For the exponential term the expansion starts with $x^4$, so terms have to be at least one greater than this, ie $x^5$. In the resulting limit it turns out that powers greater than $x^2$ are not really beneficial.
â Leucippus
Sep 10 at 19:52
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up vote
1
down vote
accepted
For the direct questions: One must, needs to, determine powers of the expansion beyond constant factors to determine the behavior of the expansions; Not every function has the same powers in an expansion. The result then becomes "at least get a few powers of $x$ of each function".
This becomes more familiar by the example in question. Consider each of the four functions first:
beginalign
x - tan^-1(x) &= fracx^33 - fracx^55 + fracx^77 + mathcalO(x^9) \
ln(1 + 2 , sin(x)) &= 2 x - 2 x^2 + frac7 x^33 - frac10 x^43 + mathcalO(x^5) \
1 + cos(x) &= 2 cos^2left(fracx2right) = 2 - fracx^22 + fracx^424 + mathcalO(x^6) \
(e^x - 1 - x)^2 &= fracx^44 + fracx^56 + frac5 x^672 + mathcalO(x^7).
endalign
With these expansions it is seen that the growth of powers of $x$ are not the same, but at least each expansion has powers of $x^4$ or greater.
Now, for the limit.
beginalign
F(x) &= frac(x - tan^-1(x) ) , ln(1 + 2 , sin(x))2 , cos^2left(fracx2right) , (e^x - 1 - x)^2 \
&= fracleft(fracx^33 - fracx^55 + fracx^77 + cdotsright) left( 2 x - 2 x^2 + frac7 x^33 - frac10 x^43 + cdotsright)left(2 - fracx^22 + fracx^424 + cdots right) left(fracx^44 + fracx^56 + frac5 x^672 + cdots right) \
&= fracfrac2 x^43 - frac2 x^53 + frac17 x^645 + cdotsfracx^42 + fracx^56 + fracx^672 + cdots \
&= fracfrac23 - frac2 x3 + frac17 x^245 + cdotsfrac12 + fracx6 + fracx^272 + cdots \
&= frac43 , left( 1 - frac4 x3 + frac49 x^236 + cdots right)
endalign
and
beginalign
lim_x to 0 F(x) &= lim_x to 0 frac43 , left( 1 - frac4 x3 + frac49 x^236 + mathcalO(x^3) right) \
&= frac43
endalign
Thanks, why did you decide to get at least powers of $x^4$?
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 19:26
@Cesare For the exponential term the expansion starts with $x^4$, so terms have to be at least one greater than this, ie $x^5$. In the resulting limit it turns out that powers greater than $x^2$ are not really beneficial.
â Leucippus
Sep 10 at 19:52
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up vote
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For the direct questions: One must, needs to, determine powers of the expansion beyond constant factors to determine the behavior of the expansions; Not every function has the same powers in an expansion. The result then becomes "at least get a few powers of $x$ of each function".
This becomes more familiar by the example in question. Consider each of the four functions first:
beginalign
x - tan^-1(x) &= fracx^33 - fracx^55 + fracx^77 + mathcalO(x^9) \
ln(1 + 2 , sin(x)) &= 2 x - 2 x^2 + frac7 x^33 - frac10 x^43 + mathcalO(x^5) \
1 + cos(x) &= 2 cos^2left(fracx2right) = 2 - fracx^22 + fracx^424 + mathcalO(x^6) \
(e^x - 1 - x)^2 &= fracx^44 + fracx^56 + frac5 x^672 + mathcalO(x^7).
endalign
With these expansions it is seen that the growth of powers of $x$ are not the same, but at least each expansion has powers of $x^4$ or greater.
Now, for the limit.
beginalign
F(x) &= frac(x - tan^-1(x) ) , ln(1 + 2 , sin(x))2 , cos^2left(fracx2right) , (e^x - 1 - x)^2 \
&= fracleft(fracx^33 - fracx^55 + fracx^77 + cdotsright) left( 2 x - 2 x^2 + frac7 x^33 - frac10 x^43 + cdotsright)left(2 - fracx^22 + fracx^424 + cdots right) left(fracx^44 + fracx^56 + frac5 x^672 + cdots right) \
&= fracfrac2 x^43 - frac2 x^53 + frac17 x^645 + cdotsfracx^42 + fracx^56 + fracx^672 + cdots \
&= fracfrac23 - frac2 x3 + frac17 x^245 + cdotsfrac12 + fracx6 + fracx^272 + cdots \
&= frac43 , left( 1 - frac4 x3 + frac49 x^236 + cdots right)
endalign
and
beginalign
lim_x to 0 F(x) &= lim_x to 0 frac43 , left( 1 - frac4 x3 + frac49 x^236 + mathcalO(x^3) right) \
&= frac43
endalign
For the direct questions: One must, needs to, determine powers of the expansion beyond constant factors to determine the behavior of the expansions; Not every function has the same powers in an expansion. The result then becomes "at least get a few powers of $x$ of each function".
This becomes more familiar by the example in question. Consider each of the four functions first:
beginalign
x - tan^-1(x) &= fracx^33 - fracx^55 + fracx^77 + mathcalO(x^9) \
ln(1 + 2 , sin(x)) &= 2 x - 2 x^2 + frac7 x^33 - frac10 x^43 + mathcalO(x^5) \
1 + cos(x) &= 2 cos^2left(fracx2right) = 2 - fracx^22 + fracx^424 + mathcalO(x^6) \
(e^x - 1 - x)^2 &= fracx^44 + fracx^56 + frac5 x^672 + mathcalO(x^7).
endalign
With these expansions it is seen that the growth of powers of $x$ are not the same, but at least each expansion has powers of $x^4$ or greater.
Now, for the limit.
beginalign
F(x) &= frac(x - tan^-1(x) ) , ln(1 + 2 , sin(x))2 , cos^2left(fracx2right) , (e^x - 1 - x)^2 \
&= fracleft(fracx^33 - fracx^55 + fracx^77 + cdotsright) left( 2 x - 2 x^2 + frac7 x^33 - frac10 x^43 + cdotsright)left(2 - fracx^22 + fracx^424 + cdots right) left(fracx^44 + fracx^56 + frac5 x^672 + cdots right) \
&= fracfrac2 x^43 - frac2 x^53 + frac17 x^645 + cdotsfracx^42 + fracx^56 + fracx^672 + cdots \
&= fracfrac23 - frac2 x3 + frac17 x^245 + cdotsfrac12 + fracx6 + fracx^272 + cdots \
&= frac43 , left( 1 - frac4 x3 + frac49 x^236 + cdots right)
endalign
and
beginalign
lim_x to 0 F(x) &= lim_x to 0 frac43 , left( 1 - frac4 x3 + frac49 x^236 + mathcalO(x^3) right) \
&= frac43
endalign
answered Sep 10 at 18:56
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Thanks, why did you decide to get at least powers of $x^4$?
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 19:26
@Cesare For the exponential term the expansion starts with $x^4$, so terms have to be at least one greater than this, ie $x^5$. In the resulting limit it turns out that powers greater than $x^2$ are not really beneficial.
â Leucippus
Sep 10 at 19:52
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Thanks, why did you decide to get at least powers of $x^4$?
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 19:26
@Cesare For the exponential term the expansion starts with $x^4$, so terms have to be at least one greater than this, ie $x^5$. In the resulting limit it turns out that powers greater than $x^2$ are not really beneficial.
â Leucippus
Sep 10 at 19:52
Thanks, why did you decide to get at least powers of $x^4$?
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 19:26
Thanks, why did you decide to get at least powers of $x^4$?
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 19:26
@Cesare For the exponential term the expansion starts with $x^4$, so terms have to be at least one greater than this, ie $x^5$. In the resulting limit it turns out that powers greater than $x^2$ are not really beneficial.
â Leucippus
Sep 10 at 19:52
@Cesare For the exponential term the expansion starts with $x^4$, so terms have to be at least one greater than this, ie $x^5$. In the resulting limit it turns out that powers greater than $x^2$ are not really beneficial.
â Leucippus
Sep 10 at 19:52
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You don't need to expand every function in your fraction to the same limit. For example, $1+cos xto 2$ as $xto 0$ so you don't need to anything at all here.
Thus, the only problem is now $$(e^x-1-x)^2 = left(fracx^22+o(x^2)right)^2 = x^4left(frac 14+o(x)right)$$
This means you just need to match this up in your numerator and it should be obvious from this point on.
Thank you. What do you mean by "you just need to match this up in your numerator"? I don't understand.
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 18:36
@Cesare if this problem is well-posed, meaning the answer is a finite number, then it must be the case that the numerator is of the same order $O(x^4)$. This means that you need to expand the two terms in the numerator to high enough power to obtain and verify that indeed the numerator is equal to something like $Cx^4+o(x).$
â dezdichado
Sep 10 at 18:47
Thanks, so you mean that the numerator must be of the same power of the denominator?
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 18:49
yes if and only if the limit is finite.
â dezdichado
Sep 10 at 19:09
The other answer proves otherwise
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 19:25
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You don't need to expand every function in your fraction to the same limit. For example, $1+cos xto 2$ as $xto 0$ so you don't need to anything at all here.
Thus, the only problem is now $$(e^x-1-x)^2 = left(fracx^22+o(x^2)right)^2 = x^4left(frac 14+o(x)right)$$
This means you just need to match this up in your numerator and it should be obvious from this point on.
Thank you. What do you mean by "you just need to match this up in your numerator"? I don't understand.
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 18:36
@Cesare if this problem is well-posed, meaning the answer is a finite number, then it must be the case that the numerator is of the same order $O(x^4)$. This means that you need to expand the two terms in the numerator to high enough power to obtain and verify that indeed the numerator is equal to something like $Cx^4+o(x).$
â dezdichado
Sep 10 at 18:47
Thanks, so you mean that the numerator must be of the same power of the denominator?
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 18:49
yes if and only if the limit is finite.
â dezdichado
Sep 10 at 19:09
The other answer proves otherwise
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 19:25
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You don't need to expand every function in your fraction to the same limit. For example, $1+cos xto 2$ as $xto 0$ so you don't need to anything at all here.
Thus, the only problem is now $$(e^x-1-x)^2 = left(fracx^22+o(x^2)right)^2 = x^4left(frac 14+o(x)right)$$
This means you just need to match this up in your numerator and it should be obvious from this point on.
You don't need to expand every function in your fraction to the same limit. For example, $1+cos xto 2$ as $xto 0$ so you don't need to anything at all here.
Thus, the only problem is now $$(e^x-1-x)^2 = left(fracx^22+o(x^2)right)^2 = x^4left(frac 14+o(x)right)$$
This means you just need to match this up in your numerator and it should be obvious from this point on.
answered Sep 10 at 18:30
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Thank you. What do you mean by "you just need to match this up in your numerator"? I don't understand.
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 18:36
@Cesare if this problem is well-posed, meaning the answer is a finite number, then it must be the case that the numerator is of the same order $O(x^4)$. This means that you need to expand the two terms in the numerator to high enough power to obtain and verify that indeed the numerator is equal to something like $Cx^4+o(x).$
â dezdichado
Sep 10 at 18:47
Thanks, so you mean that the numerator must be of the same power of the denominator?
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 18:49
yes if and only if the limit is finite.
â dezdichado
Sep 10 at 19:09
The other answer proves otherwise
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 19:25
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Thank you. What do you mean by "you just need to match this up in your numerator"? I don't understand.
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 18:36
@Cesare if this problem is well-posed, meaning the answer is a finite number, then it must be the case that the numerator is of the same order $O(x^4)$. This means that you need to expand the two terms in the numerator to high enough power to obtain and verify that indeed the numerator is equal to something like $Cx^4+o(x).$
â dezdichado
Sep 10 at 18:47
Thanks, so you mean that the numerator must be of the same power of the denominator?
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 18:49
yes if and only if the limit is finite.
â dezdichado
Sep 10 at 19:09
The other answer proves otherwise
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 19:25
Thank you. What do you mean by "you just need to match this up in your numerator"? I don't understand.
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 18:36
Thank you. What do you mean by "you just need to match this up in your numerator"? I don't understand.
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 18:36
@Cesare if this problem is well-posed, meaning the answer is a finite number, then it must be the case that the numerator is of the same order $O(x^4)$. This means that you need to expand the two terms in the numerator to high enough power to obtain and verify that indeed the numerator is equal to something like $Cx^4+o(x).$
â dezdichado
Sep 10 at 18:47
@Cesare if this problem is well-posed, meaning the answer is a finite number, then it must be the case that the numerator is of the same order $O(x^4)$. This means that you need to expand the two terms in the numerator to high enough power to obtain and verify that indeed the numerator is equal to something like $Cx^4+o(x).$
â dezdichado
Sep 10 at 18:47
Thanks, so you mean that the numerator must be of the same power of the denominator?
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 18:49
Thanks, so you mean that the numerator must be of the same power of the denominator?
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 18:49
yes if and only if the limit is finite.
â dezdichado
Sep 10 at 19:09
yes if and only if the limit is finite.
â dezdichado
Sep 10 at 19:09
The other answer proves otherwise
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 19:25
The other answer proves otherwise
â Cesare
Sep 10 at 19:25
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1.i have used the expansion of e^x , as have used the standsr limits.
2. you expand till the terms, such that order if zero in numerator and denominator can be compared to one and other
i have missed 2 in denominator
Hi, I can't see the image you posted.
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Sep 10 at 18:28
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1.i have used the expansion of e^x , as have used the standsr limits.
2. you expand till the terms, such that order if zero in numerator and denominator can be compared to one and other
i have missed 2 in denominator
Hi, I can't see the image you posted.
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Sep 10 at 18:28
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1.i have used the expansion of e^x , as have used the standsr limits.
2. you expand till the terms, such that order if zero in numerator and denominator can be compared to one and other
i have missed 2 in denominator

1.i have used the expansion of e^x , as have used the standsr limits.
2. you expand till the terms, such that order if zero in numerator and denominator can be compared to one and other
i have missed 2 in denominator
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answered Sep 10 at 18:28
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Hi, I can't see the image you posted.
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Sep 10 at 18:28
Hi, I can't see the image you posted.
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