Can we prove this inequality $1+sqrt2+cdots+sqrtn<frac4n+36sqrtn$ using integrals by parts?
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Can we prove this inequality $1+sqrt2+cdots+sqrtn<dfrac4n+36sqrtn$ using integrals by parts?
I need to prove this inequality, and I tried this way:
$$beginsplit
int_0^nsqrtx ,dx &=sumlimits_k=1^n int_k-1^k sqrtx, dx\
&=sumlimits_k=1^n int_0^1 sqrtt+k-1 , dt\
&=sumlimits_k=1^n sqrtk-sumlimits_k=1^n int_0^1dfract2sqrtt+k-1,dt
endsplit$$
Thus
$$sumlimits_k=1^n sqrtk=int_0^n sqrtx, dx+sumlimits_k=1^n int_0^1 dfract2sqrtt+k-1, dt$$.
But maybe I didn't find some inequality trick, I cannot find a proper approxmation of the sum of the integrals.
calculus inequality summation
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Can we prove this inequality $1+sqrt2+cdots+sqrtn<dfrac4n+36sqrtn$ using integrals by parts?
I need to prove this inequality, and I tried this way:
$$beginsplit
int_0^nsqrtx ,dx &=sumlimits_k=1^n int_k-1^k sqrtx, dx\
&=sumlimits_k=1^n int_0^1 sqrtt+k-1 , dt\
&=sumlimits_k=1^n sqrtk-sumlimits_k=1^n int_0^1dfract2sqrtt+k-1,dt
endsplit$$
Thus
$$sumlimits_k=1^n sqrtk=int_0^n sqrtx, dx+sumlimits_k=1^n int_0^1 dfract2sqrtt+k-1, dt$$.
But maybe I didn't find some inequality trick, I cannot find a proper approxmation of the sum of the integrals.
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Can we prove this inequality $1+sqrt2+cdots+sqrtn<dfrac4n+36sqrtn$ using integrals by parts?
I need to prove this inequality, and I tried this way:
$$beginsplit
int_0^nsqrtx ,dx &=sumlimits_k=1^n int_k-1^k sqrtx, dx\
&=sumlimits_k=1^n int_0^1 sqrtt+k-1 , dt\
&=sumlimits_k=1^n sqrtk-sumlimits_k=1^n int_0^1dfract2sqrtt+k-1,dt
endsplit$$
Thus
$$sumlimits_k=1^n sqrtk=int_0^n sqrtx, dx+sumlimits_k=1^n int_0^1 dfract2sqrtt+k-1, dt$$.
But maybe I didn't find some inequality trick, I cannot find a proper approxmation of the sum of the integrals.
calculus inequality summation
Can we prove this inequality $1+sqrt2+cdots+sqrtn<dfrac4n+36sqrtn$ using integrals by parts?
I need to prove this inequality, and I tried this way:
$$beginsplit
int_0^nsqrtx ,dx &=sumlimits_k=1^n int_k-1^k sqrtx, dx\
&=sumlimits_k=1^n int_0^1 sqrtt+k-1 , dt\
&=sumlimits_k=1^n sqrtk-sumlimits_k=1^n int_0^1dfract2sqrtt+k-1,dt
endsplit$$
Thus
$$sumlimits_k=1^n sqrtk=int_0^n sqrtx, dx+sumlimits_k=1^n int_0^1 dfract2sqrtt+k-1, dt$$.
But maybe I didn't find some inequality trick, I cannot find a proper approxmation of the sum of the integrals.
calculus inequality summation
calculus inequality summation
edited Sep 13 at 15:07
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First, see that we have
$$
int_0^n sqrtx ;dx = frac4n6sqrtn
$$
which gives us a "part" of the demanded result. Moreover, it suggests that we should try to prove the following:
$$
sum_k=1^n int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt < frac36sqrtn = frac12sqrtn
$$
Evaluating the integral we get:
beginalign
int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt &=
int_k-1^k fracx-k+12sqrtx ;dx =
frac12 int_k-1^k sqrtx ;dx - (k-1)
int_k-1^k frac12sqrtx ;dx \
&=
frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right)
endalign
However, for all $k geq 1$, you can prove that:
$$
frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right) <
frac12 left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right)
$$
So we end up with a telescoping sum and the result we wanted:
$$
sum_k=1^n int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt <
frac12 sum_k=1^n left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right) =
frac12 sqrtn
$$
I can prove the inequality $frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right) < frac12 left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right)$ by induction, but how can we prove it more strictly?
â é«åÂÂç¦
Sep 11 at 15:15
This inequality is equivalent to $(4k-1)sqrtk-1 < (4k-3)sqrtk$. Try to square it (both sides are $geq 0$ for $kgeq 1$).
â mwt
Sep 11 at 18:18
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Hint: Prove that $$int_k-1^ksqrtxdx>dfracsqrtk+sqrtk-12$$ and then sum up to get your desired conclusion. You can just do this manually or generally this follows from a very well-known fact that the trapeziodal rule underestimates integral if the function is concave down. ($f(x) = sqrtx$) is concave down)
With the reverse inequality of f(x) is concave up.
â marty cohen
Sep 13 at 20:16
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2 Answers
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
First, see that we have
$$
int_0^n sqrtx ;dx = frac4n6sqrtn
$$
which gives us a "part" of the demanded result. Moreover, it suggests that we should try to prove the following:
$$
sum_k=1^n int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt < frac36sqrtn = frac12sqrtn
$$
Evaluating the integral we get:
beginalign
int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt &=
int_k-1^k fracx-k+12sqrtx ;dx =
frac12 int_k-1^k sqrtx ;dx - (k-1)
int_k-1^k frac12sqrtx ;dx \
&=
frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right)
endalign
However, for all $k geq 1$, you can prove that:
$$
frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right) <
frac12 left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right)
$$
So we end up with a telescoping sum and the result we wanted:
$$
sum_k=1^n int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt <
frac12 sum_k=1^n left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right) =
frac12 sqrtn
$$
I can prove the inequality $frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right) < frac12 left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right)$ by induction, but how can we prove it more strictly?
â é«åÂÂç¦
Sep 11 at 15:15
This inequality is equivalent to $(4k-1)sqrtk-1 < (4k-3)sqrtk$. Try to square it (both sides are $geq 0$ for $kgeq 1$).
â mwt
Sep 11 at 18:18
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
First, see that we have
$$
int_0^n sqrtx ;dx = frac4n6sqrtn
$$
which gives us a "part" of the demanded result. Moreover, it suggests that we should try to prove the following:
$$
sum_k=1^n int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt < frac36sqrtn = frac12sqrtn
$$
Evaluating the integral we get:
beginalign
int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt &=
int_k-1^k fracx-k+12sqrtx ;dx =
frac12 int_k-1^k sqrtx ;dx - (k-1)
int_k-1^k frac12sqrtx ;dx \
&=
frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right)
endalign
However, for all $k geq 1$, you can prove that:
$$
frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right) <
frac12 left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right)
$$
So we end up with a telescoping sum and the result we wanted:
$$
sum_k=1^n int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt <
frac12 sum_k=1^n left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right) =
frac12 sqrtn
$$
I can prove the inequality $frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right) < frac12 left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right)$ by induction, but how can we prove it more strictly?
â é«åÂÂç¦
Sep 11 at 15:15
This inequality is equivalent to $(4k-1)sqrtk-1 < (4k-3)sqrtk$. Try to square it (both sides are $geq 0$ for $kgeq 1$).
â mwt
Sep 11 at 18:18
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
First, see that we have
$$
int_0^n sqrtx ;dx = frac4n6sqrtn
$$
which gives us a "part" of the demanded result. Moreover, it suggests that we should try to prove the following:
$$
sum_k=1^n int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt < frac36sqrtn = frac12sqrtn
$$
Evaluating the integral we get:
beginalign
int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt &=
int_k-1^k fracx-k+12sqrtx ;dx =
frac12 int_k-1^k sqrtx ;dx - (k-1)
int_k-1^k frac12sqrtx ;dx \
&=
frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right)
endalign
However, for all $k geq 1$, you can prove that:
$$
frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right) <
frac12 left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right)
$$
So we end up with a telescoping sum and the result we wanted:
$$
sum_k=1^n int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt <
frac12 sum_k=1^n left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right) =
frac12 sqrtn
$$
First, see that we have
$$
int_0^n sqrtx ;dx = frac4n6sqrtn
$$
which gives us a "part" of the demanded result. Moreover, it suggests that we should try to prove the following:
$$
sum_k=1^n int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt < frac36sqrtn = frac12sqrtn
$$
Evaluating the integral we get:
beginalign
int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt &=
int_k-1^k fracx-k+12sqrtx ;dx =
frac12 int_k-1^k sqrtx ;dx - (k-1)
int_k-1^k frac12sqrtx ;dx \
&=
frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right)
endalign
However, for all $k geq 1$, you can prove that:
$$
frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right) <
frac12 left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right)
$$
So we end up with a telescoping sum and the result we wanted:
$$
sum_k=1^n int_0^1 fract2sqrtt+k-1 ;dt <
frac12 sum_k=1^n left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right) =
frac12 sqrtn
$$
edited Sep 11 at 6:25
answered Sep 10 at 20:43
mwt
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I can prove the inequality $frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right) < frac12 left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right)$ by induction, but how can we prove it more strictly?
â é«åÂÂç¦
Sep 11 at 15:15
This inequality is equivalent to $(4k-1)sqrtk-1 < (4k-3)sqrtk$. Try to square it (both sides are $geq 0$ for $kgeq 1$).
â mwt
Sep 11 at 18:18
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I can prove the inequality $frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right) < frac12 left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right)$ by induction, but how can we prove it more strictly?
â é«åÂÂç¦
Sep 11 at 15:15
This inequality is equivalent to $(4k-1)sqrtk-1 < (4k-3)sqrtk$. Try to square it (both sides are $geq 0$ for $kgeq 1$).
â mwt
Sep 11 at 18:18
I can prove the inequality $frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right) < frac12 left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right)$ by induction, but how can we prove it more strictly?
â é«åÂÂç¦
Sep 11 at 15:15
I can prove the inequality $frac13 left(-2ksqrtk + 2ksqrtk-1 + 3sqrtk - 2sqrtk-1right) < frac12 left(sqrtk-sqrtk-1right)$ by induction, but how can we prove it more strictly?
â é«åÂÂç¦
Sep 11 at 15:15
This inequality is equivalent to $(4k-1)sqrtk-1 < (4k-3)sqrtk$. Try to square it (both sides are $geq 0$ for $kgeq 1$).
â mwt
Sep 11 at 18:18
This inequality is equivalent to $(4k-1)sqrtk-1 < (4k-3)sqrtk$. Try to square it (both sides are $geq 0$ for $kgeq 1$).
â mwt
Sep 11 at 18:18
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
Hint: Prove that $$int_k-1^ksqrtxdx>dfracsqrtk+sqrtk-12$$ and then sum up to get your desired conclusion. You can just do this manually or generally this follows from a very well-known fact that the trapeziodal rule underestimates integral if the function is concave down. ($f(x) = sqrtx$) is concave down)
With the reverse inequality of f(x) is concave up.
â marty cohen
Sep 13 at 20:16
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
Hint: Prove that $$int_k-1^ksqrtxdx>dfracsqrtk+sqrtk-12$$ and then sum up to get your desired conclusion. You can just do this manually or generally this follows from a very well-known fact that the trapeziodal rule underestimates integral if the function is concave down. ($f(x) = sqrtx$) is concave down)
With the reverse inequality of f(x) is concave up.
â marty cohen
Sep 13 at 20:16
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
Hint: Prove that $$int_k-1^ksqrtxdx>dfracsqrtk+sqrtk-12$$ and then sum up to get your desired conclusion. You can just do this manually or generally this follows from a very well-known fact that the trapeziodal rule underestimates integral if the function is concave down. ($f(x) = sqrtx$) is concave down)
Hint: Prove that $$int_k-1^ksqrtxdx>dfracsqrtk+sqrtk-12$$ and then sum up to get your desired conclusion. You can just do this manually or generally this follows from a very well-known fact that the trapeziodal rule underestimates integral if the function is concave down. ($f(x) = sqrtx$) is concave down)
answered Sep 10 at 20:06
dezdichado
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With the reverse inequality of f(x) is concave up.
â marty cohen
Sep 13 at 20:16
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With the reverse inequality of f(x) is concave up.
â marty cohen
Sep 13 at 20:16
With the reverse inequality of f(x) is concave up.
â marty cohen
Sep 13 at 20:16
With the reverse inequality of f(x) is concave up.
â marty cohen
Sep 13 at 20:16
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