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how can I show that the point $Q = (2, 5, -3)$ lies between $P(1, 6, -5)$ and $R(4, 3, 1)$? I have already proved that the three points are collinear, but I would like to show which is in the middle. Is there any way, other than drawing a picture, that can prove this fact?










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how can I show that the point $Q = (2, 5, -3)$ lies between $P(1, 6, -5)$ and $R(4, 3, 1)$? I have already proved that the three points are collinear, but I would like to show which is in the middle. Is there any way, other than drawing a picture, that can prove this fact?










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how can I show that the point $Q = (2, 5, -3)$ lies between $P(1, 6, -5)$ and $R(4, 3, 1)$? I have already proved that the three points are collinear, but I would like to show which is in the middle. Is there any way, other than drawing a picture, that can prove this fact?










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how can I show that the point $Q = (2, 5, -3)$ lies between $P(1, 6, -5)$ and $R(4, 3, 1)$? I have already proved that the three points are collinear, but I would like to show which is in the middle. Is there any way, other than drawing a picture, that can prove this fact?







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  • In order to get an answer that you can use, you might give us your definition of when a point lies between two others.
    – amd
    Sep 10 at 22:26
















  • In order to get an answer that you can use, you might give us your definition of when a point lies between two others.
    – amd
    Sep 10 at 22:26















In order to get an answer that you can use, you might give us your definition of when a point lies between two others.
– amd
Sep 10 at 22:26




In order to get an answer that you can use, you might give us your definition of when a point lies between two others.
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$R$ is a candidate to be between $P$ and $R$.



To check it, using barycentric coordinates, you have to show the system of equations in $t$
$$tP+(1-t)R=Qiffbegincasest+4(1-t)=2\6t+3(1-t)=5\-5t+1-t=-3
endcases$$
has a solution $tin[0,1]$






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    Let's first find the line that goes through these three points. The line can be represented as $$(x,y,z)=(1,-1,2)cdot t + (2,5,-3)$$



    So, what values of $t$ produce each one of the points? $t=0$ obviously produces $Q$, $t=-1$ produces $P$ and $t=2$ produces $R$. Since $-1<0<2$, we are done.






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      Since you have already established the collinearity of your points, you can just compare the $x$ values.



      You have $$1<2<4$$



      Thus $Q$ is between $P$ and $R$






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      • That is 100% true, but I don't think it's necessarily obvious to someone new to 3D geometry.
        – Rushabh Mehta
        Sep 10 at 20:45











      • It should be easy for the OP who has established the collinearity of three points.
        – Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
        Sep 10 at 20:50

















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      We have that the line PR is given by



      $$P+t(R-P)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$



      then check whether $exists t$ such that



      $$(2, 5, -3)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$



      and recall that



      • $t=0$ gives $P$

      • $t=1$ gives $R$

      • $0<t<1$ the point lies between $P$ and $R$





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      • This seems like you answered one question, you realized you misread the question, then quickly patched up the answer.
        – Rushabh Mehta
        Sep 10 at 20:57










      • @RushabhMehta Yes exactly, at first I've misread the OP and then fixed it.
        – gimusi
        Sep 10 at 20:58

















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      up vote
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      accepted










      $R$ is a candidate to be between $P$ and $R$.



      To check it, using barycentric coordinates, you have to show the system of equations in $t$
      $$tP+(1-t)R=Qiffbegincasest+4(1-t)=2\6t+3(1-t)=5\-5t+1-t=-3
      endcases$$
      has a solution $tin[0,1]$






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        accepted










        $R$ is a candidate to be between $P$ and $R$.



        To check it, using barycentric coordinates, you have to show the system of equations in $t$
        $$tP+(1-t)R=Qiffbegincasest+4(1-t)=2\6t+3(1-t)=5\-5t+1-t=-3
        endcases$$
        has a solution $tin[0,1]$






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          up vote
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          $R$ is a candidate to be between $P$ and $R$.



          To check it, using barycentric coordinates, you have to show the system of equations in $t$
          $$tP+(1-t)R=Qiffbegincasest+4(1-t)=2\6t+3(1-t)=5\-5t+1-t=-3
          endcases$$
          has a solution $tin[0,1]$






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          $R$ is a candidate to be between $P$ and $R$.



          To check it, using barycentric coordinates, you have to show the system of equations in $t$
          $$tP+(1-t)R=Qiffbegincasest+4(1-t)=2\6t+3(1-t)=5\-5t+1-t=-3
          endcases$$
          has a solution $tin[0,1]$







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              Let's first find the line that goes through these three points. The line can be represented as $$(x,y,z)=(1,-1,2)cdot t + (2,5,-3)$$



              So, what values of $t$ produce each one of the points? $t=0$ obviously produces $Q$, $t=-1$ produces $P$ and $t=2$ produces $R$. Since $-1<0<2$, we are done.






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                up vote
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                Let's first find the line that goes through these three points. The line can be represented as $$(x,y,z)=(1,-1,2)cdot t + (2,5,-3)$$



                So, what values of $t$ produce each one of the points? $t=0$ obviously produces $Q$, $t=-1$ produces $P$ and $t=2$ produces $R$. Since $-1<0<2$, we are done.






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                  up vote
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                  Let's first find the line that goes through these three points. The line can be represented as $$(x,y,z)=(1,-1,2)cdot t + (2,5,-3)$$



                  So, what values of $t$ produce each one of the points? $t=0$ obviously produces $Q$, $t=-1$ produces $P$ and $t=2$ produces $R$. Since $-1<0<2$, we are done.






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                  Let's first find the line that goes through these three points. The line can be represented as $$(x,y,z)=(1,-1,2)cdot t + (2,5,-3)$$



                  So, what values of $t$ produce each one of the points? $t=0$ obviously produces $Q$, $t=-1$ produces $P$ and $t=2$ produces $R$. Since $-1<0<2$, we are done.







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                  answered Sep 10 at 20:43









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                      Since you have already established the collinearity of your points, you can just compare the $x$ values.



                      You have $$1<2<4$$



                      Thus $Q$ is between $P$ and $R$






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                      • That is 100% true, but I don't think it's necessarily obvious to someone new to 3D geometry.
                        – Rushabh Mehta
                        Sep 10 at 20:45











                      • It should be easy for the OP who has established the collinearity of three points.
                        – Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
                        Sep 10 at 20:50














                      up vote
                      1
                      down vote













                      Since you have already established the collinearity of your points, you can just compare the $x$ values.



                      You have $$1<2<4$$



                      Thus $Q$ is between $P$ and $R$






                      share|cite|improve this answer




















                      • That is 100% true, but I don't think it's necessarily obvious to someone new to 3D geometry.
                        – Rushabh Mehta
                        Sep 10 at 20:45











                      • It should be easy for the OP who has established the collinearity of three points.
                        – Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
                        Sep 10 at 20:50












                      up vote
                      1
                      down vote










                      up vote
                      1
                      down vote









                      Since you have already established the collinearity of your points, you can just compare the $x$ values.



                      You have $$1<2<4$$



                      Thus $Q$ is between $P$ and $R$






                      share|cite|improve this answer












                      Since you have already established the collinearity of your points, you can just compare the $x$ values.



                      You have $$1<2<4$$



                      Thus $Q$ is between $P$ and $R$







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                      share|cite|improve this answer



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                      answered Sep 10 at 20:44









                      Mohammad Riazi-Kermani

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                      • That is 100% true, but I don't think it's necessarily obvious to someone new to 3D geometry.
                        – Rushabh Mehta
                        Sep 10 at 20:45











                      • It should be easy for the OP who has established the collinearity of three points.
                        – Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
                        Sep 10 at 20:50
















                      • That is 100% true, but I don't think it's necessarily obvious to someone new to 3D geometry.
                        – Rushabh Mehta
                        Sep 10 at 20:45











                      • It should be easy for the OP who has established the collinearity of three points.
                        – Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
                        Sep 10 at 20:50















                      That is 100% true, but I don't think it's necessarily obvious to someone new to 3D geometry.
                      – Rushabh Mehta
                      Sep 10 at 20:45





                      That is 100% true, but I don't think it's necessarily obvious to someone new to 3D geometry.
                      – Rushabh Mehta
                      Sep 10 at 20:45













                      It should be easy for the OP who has established the collinearity of three points.
                      – Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
                      Sep 10 at 20:50




                      It should be easy for the OP who has established the collinearity of three points.
                      – Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
                      Sep 10 at 20:50










                      up vote
                      0
                      down vote













                      We have that the line PR is given by



                      $$P+t(R-P)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$



                      then check whether $exists t$ such that



                      $$(2, 5, -3)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$



                      and recall that



                      • $t=0$ gives $P$

                      • $t=1$ gives $R$

                      • $0<t<1$ the point lies between $P$ and $R$





                      share|cite|improve this answer






















                      • This seems like you answered one question, you realized you misread the question, then quickly patched up the answer.
                        – Rushabh Mehta
                        Sep 10 at 20:57










                      • @RushabhMehta Yes exactly, at first I've misread the OP and then fixed it.
                        – gimusi
                        Sep 10 at 20:58














                      up vote
                      0
                      down vote













                      We have that the line PR is given by



                      $$P+t(R-P)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$



                      then check whether $exists t$ such that



                      $$(2, 5, -3)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$



                      and recall that



                      • $t=0$ gives $P$

                      • $t=1$ gives $R$

                      • $0<t<1$ the point lies between $P$ and $R$





                      share|cite|improve this answer






















                      • This seems like you answered one question, you realized you misread the question, then quickly patched up the answer.
                        – Rushabh Mehta
                        Sep 10 at 20:57










                      • @RushabhMehta Yes exactly, at first I've misread the OP and then fixed it.
                        – gimusi
                        Sep 10 at 20:58












                      up vote
                      0
                      down vote










                      up vote
                      0
                      down vote









                      We have that the line PR is given by



                      $$P+t(R-P)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$



                      then check whether $exists t$ such that



                      $$(2, 5, -3)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$



                      and recall that



                      • $t=0$ gives $P$

                      • $t=1$ gives $R$

                      • $0<t<1$ the point lies between $P$ and $R$





                      share|cite|improve this answer














                      We have that the line PR is given by



                      $$P+t(R-P)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$



                      then check whether $exists t$ such that



                      $$(2, 5, -3)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$



                      and recall that



                      • $t=0$ gives $P$

                      • $t=1$ gives $R$

                      • $0<t<1$ the point lies between $P$ and $R$






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                      answered Sep 10 at 20:41









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                      • This seems like you answered one question, you realized you misread the question, then quickly patched up the answer.
                        – Rushabh Mehta
                        Sep 10 at 20:57










                      • @RushabhMehta Yes exactly, at first I've misread the OP and then fixed it.
                        – gimusi
                        Sep 10 at 20:58
















                      • This seems like you answered one question, you realized you misread the question, then quickly patched up the answer.
                        – Rushabh Mehta
                        Sep 10 at 20:57










                      • @RushabhMehta Yes exactly, at first I've misread the OP and then fixed it.
                        – gimusi
                        Sep 10 at 20:58















                      This seems like you answered one question, you realized you misread the question, then quickly patched up the answer.
                      – Rushabh Mehta
                      Sep 10 at 20:57




                      This seems like you answered one question, you realized you misread the question, then quickly patched up the answer.
                      – Rushabh Mehta
                      Sep 10 at 20:57












                      @RushabhMehta Yes exactly, at first I've misread the OP and then fixed it.
                      – gimusi
                      Sep 10 at 20:58




                      @RushabhMehta Yes exactly, at first I've misread the OP and then fixed it.
                      – gimusi
                      Sep 10 at 20:58


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