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how can I show that the point $Q = (2, 5, -3)$ lies between $P(1, 6, -5)$ and $R(4, 3, 1)$? I have already proved that the three points are collinear, but I would like to show which is in the middle. Is there any way, other than drawing a picture, that can prove this fact?
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how can I show that the point $Q = (2, 5, -3)$ lies between $P(1, 6, -5)$ and $R(4, 3, 1)$? I have already proved that the three points are collinear, but I would like to show which is in the middle. Is there any way, other than drawing a picture, that can prove this fact?
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how can I show that the point $Q = (2, 5, -3)$ lies between $P(1, 6, -5)$ and $R(4, 3, 1)$? I have already proved that the three points are collinear, but I would like to show which is in the middle. Is there any way, other than drawing a picture, that can prove this fact?
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how can I show that the point $Q = (2, 5, -3)$ lies between $P(1, 6, -5)$ and $R(4, 3, 1)$? I have already proved that the three points are collinear, but I would like to show which is in the middle. Is there any way, other than drawing a picture, that can prove this fact?
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In order to get an answer that you can use, you might give us your definition of when a point lies between two others.
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$R$ is a candidate to be between $P$ and $R$.
To check it, using barycentric coordinates, you have to show the system of equations in $t$
$$tP+(1-t)R=Qiffbegincasest+4(1-t)=2\6t+3(1-t)=5\-5t+1-t=-3
endcases$$
has a solution $tin[0,1]$
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Let's first find the line that goes through these three points. The line can be represented as $$(x,y,z)=(1,-1,2)cdot t + (2,5,-3)$$
So, what values of $t$ produce each one of the points? $t=0$ obviously produces $Q$, $t=-1$ produces $P$ and $t=2$ produces $R$. Since $-1<0<2$, we are done.
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Since you have already established the collinearity of your points, you can just compare the $x$ values.
You have $$1<2<4$$
Thus $Q$ is between $P$ and $R$
That is 100% true, but I don't think it's necessarily obvious to someone new to 3D geometry.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 20:45
It should be easy for the OP who has established the collinearity of three points.
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Sep 10 at 20:50
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We have that the line PR is given by
$$P+t(R-P)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$
then check whether $exists t$ such that
$$(2, 5, -3)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$
and recall that
- $t=0$ gives $P$
- $t=1$ gives $R$
- $0<t<1$ the point lies between $P$ and $R$
This seems like you answered one question, you realized you misread the question, then quickly patched up the answer.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 20:57
@RushabhMehta Yes exactly, at first I've misread the OP and then fixed it.
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Sep 10 at 20:58
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4 Answers
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$R$ is a candidate to be between $P$ and $R$.
To check it, using barycentric coordinates, you have to show the system of equations in $t$
$$tP+(1-t)R=Qiffbegincasest+4(1-t)=2\6t+3(1-t)=5\-5t+1-t=-3
endcases$$
has a solution $tin[0,1]$
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$R$ is a candidate to be between $P$ and $R$.
To check it, using barycentric coordinates, you have to show the system of equations in $t$
$$tP+(1-t)R=Qiffbegincasest+4(1-t)=2\6t+3(1-t)=5\-5t+1-t=-3
endcases$$
has a solution $tin[0,1]$
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$R$ is a candidate to be between $P$ and $R$.
To check it, using barycentric coordinates, you have to show the system of equations in $t$
$$tP+(1-t)R=Qiffbegincasest+4(1-t)=2\6t+3(1-t)=5\-5t+1-t=-3
endcases$$
has a solution $tin[0,1]$
$R$ is a candidate to be between $P$ and $R$.
To check it, using barycentric coordinates, you have to show the system of equations in $t$
$$tP+(1-t)R=Qiffbegincasest+4(1-t)=2\6t+3(1-t)=5\-5t+1-t=-3
endcases$$
has a solution $tin[0,1]$
answered Sep 10 at 20:48
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Let's first find the line that goes through these three points. The line can be represented as $$(x,y,z)=(1,-1,2)cdot t + (2,5,-3)$$
So, what values of $t$ produce each one of the points? $t=0$ obviously produces $Q$, $t=-1$ produces $P$ and $t=2$ produces $R$. Since $-1<0<2$, we are done.
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Let's first find the line that goes through these three points. The line can be represented as $$(x,y,z)=(1,-1,2)cdot t + (2,5,-3)$$
So, what values of $t$ produce each one of the points? $t=0$ obviously produces $Q$, $t=-1$ produces $P$ and $t=2$ produces $R$. Since $-1<0<2$, we are done.
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Let's first find the line that goes through these three points. The line can be represented as $$(x,y,z)=(1,-1,2)cdot t + (2,5,-3)$$
So, what values of $t$ produce each one of the points? $t=0$ obviously produces $Q$, $t=-1$ produces $P$ and $t=2$ produces $R$. Since $-1<0<2$, we are done.
Let's first find the line that goes through these three points. The line can be represented as $$(x,y,z)=(1,-1,2)cdot t + (2,5,-3)$$
So, what values of $t$ produce each one of the points? $t=0$ obviously produces $Q$, $t=-1$ produces $P$ and $t=2$ produces $R$. Since $-1<0<2$, we are done.
answered Sep 10 at 20:43
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Since you have already established the collinearity of your points, you can just compare the $x$ values.
You have $$1<2<4$$
Thus $Q$ is between $P$ and $R$
That is 100% true, but I don't think it's necessarily obvious to someone new to 3D geometry.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 20:45
It should be easy for the OP who has established the collinearity of three points.
â Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
Sep 10 at 20:50
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up vote
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Since you have already established the collinearity of your points, you can just compare the $x$ values.
You have $$1<2<4$$
Thus $Q$ is between $P$ and $R$
That is 100% true, but I don't think it's necessarily obvious to someone new to 3D geometry.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 20:45
It should be easy for the OP who has established the collinearity of three points.
â Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
Sep 10 at 20:50
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up vote
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Since you have already established the collinearity of your points, you can just compare the $x$ values.
You have $$1<2<4$$
Thus $Q$ is between $P$ and $R$
Since you have already established the collinearity of your points, you can just compare the $x$ values.
You have $$1<2<4$$
Thus $Q$ is between $P$ and $R$
answered Sep 10 at 20:44
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That is 100% true, but I don't think it's necessarily obvious to someone new to 3D geometry.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 20:45
It should be easy for the OP who has established the collinearity of three points.
â Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
Sep 10 at 20:50
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That is 100% true, but I don't think it's necessarily obvious to someone new to 3D geometry.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 20:45
It should be easy for the OP who has established the collinearity of three points.
â Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
Sep 10 at 20:50
That is 100% true, but I don't think it's necessarily obvious to someone new to 3D geometry.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 20:45
That is 100% true, but I don't think it's necessarily obvious to someone new to 3D geometry.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 20:45
It should be easy for the OP who has established the collinearity of three points.
â Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
Sep 10 at 20:50
It should be easy for the OP who has established the collinearity of three points.
â Mohammad Riazi-Kermani
Sep 10 at 20:50
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We have that the line PR is given by
$$P+t(R-P)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$
then check whether $exists t$ such that
$$(2, 5, -3)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$
and recall that
- $t=0$ gives $P$
- $t=1$ gives $R$
- $0<t<1$ the point lies between $P$ and $R$
This seems like you answered one question, you realized you misread the question, then quickly patched up the answer.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 20:57
@RushabhMehta Yes exactly, at first I've misread the OP and then fixed it.
â gimusi
Sep 10 at 20:58
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We have that the line PR is given by
$$P+t(R-P)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$
then check whether $exists t$ such that
$$(2, 5, -3)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$
and recall that
- $t=0$ gives $P$
- $t=1$ gives $R$
- $0<t<1$ the point lies between $P$ and $R$
This seems like you answered one question, you realized you misread the question, then quickly patched up the answer.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 20:57
@RushabhMehta Yes exactly, at first I've misread the OP and then fixed it.
â gimusi
Sep 10 at 20:58
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We have that the line PR is given by
$$P+t(R-P)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$
then check whether $exists t$ such that
$$(2, 5, -3)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$
and recall that
- $t=0$ gives $P$
- $t=1$ gives $R$
- $0<t<1$ the point lies between $P$ and $R$
We have that the line PR is given by
$$P+t(R-P)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$
then check whether $exists t$ such that
$$(2, 5, -3)=(1, 6, -5)+t(3, -3, 6)$$
and recall that
- $t=0$ gives $P$
- $t=1$ gives $R$
- $0<t<1$ the point lies between $P$ and $R$
edited Sep 10 at 20:46
answered Sep 10 at 20:41
gimusi
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This seems like you answered one question, you realized you misread the question, then quickly patched up the answer.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 20:57
@RushabhMehta Yes exactly, at first I've misread the OP and then fixed it.
â gimusi
Sep 10 at 20:58
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This seems like you answered one question, you realized you misread the question, then quickly patched up the answer.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 20:57
@RushabhMehta Yes exactly, at first I've misread the OP and then fixed it.
â gimusi
Sep 10 at 20:58
This seems like you answered one question, you realized you misread the question, then quickly patched up the answer.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 20:57
This seems like you answered one question, you realized you misread the question, then quickly patched up the answer.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 20:57
@RushabhMehta Yes exactly, at first I've misread the OP and then fixed it.
â gimusi
Sep 10 at 20:58
@RushabhMehta Yes exactly, at first I've misread the OP and then fixed it.
â gimusi
Sep 10 at 20:58
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In order to get an answer that you can use, you might give us your definition of when a point lies between two others.
â amd
Sep 10 at 22:26