If $alpha^3+4kalpha-k=0$ with $kgeq 1$ is odd, then $mathbbQ(alpha)$ has even class number.

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This is an exercise found in course notes I have for an introductory course in class field theory and it has been bugging me a for long time.



So $K=mathbbQ(alpha)$, with $alpha$ a root of $f=X^3+4kX-k$. Here $kgeq 1$ is an odd integer. The polynomial $f$ is irreducible by Perron's criterion, although that uses maybe a bit much. We have $Delta(f)=-k^2(256k+27)$ hence $mathrmGal(f)cong S_3$.



I tried to find an unramified quadratic extension of $K$, which would imply the result as such an extension is clearly Abelian and hence contained in the Hilbert class field of $K$. The first candidate would be its normal closure $K(sqrtDelta(f))=K(sqrt-256k-27)$, but $K(sqrt-256k-27)/K$ is ramified at the real place of $K$.



I next tried to consider $K(sqrtd)$ for any square-free integer $dneq 1$, but this also cannot happen: if $K(sqrtd)/K$ is unramified then $d>1$ because $K(sqrtd)$ has to be totally real. As $2$ doesn't divide $Delta(f)$ we see that $2$ is unramified in $K(sqrtd)/mathbbQ$, hence also in $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$ so $dequiv 1bmod 4$. Thus if $p$ is a rational prime dividing $d$ we have $pneq 2$ and $p$ ramifies in $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$. There are now three cases.



  1. If $p$ is unramified in $K$ then clearly $K(sqrtd)/K$ cannot be unramified as then $K(sqrtd)/mathbbQ$ would be unramified while it contains $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$

  2. If $p$ is ramified in $K$ as $pmathcalO_K=mathfrakp^2mathfrakq$, then we have tame ramification of $p$ in $K$, and Abhyankar's implies that $mathfrakp$ is unramified in $K(sqrtd)$.
    However $mathfrakq$ still ramifies in $K(sqrtd)$ because of $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$.

  3. If $p$ is totally ramified in $K$ then $p$ is totally ramified in $K(sqrtd)$, because $e(mathfrakB|p)$ is divisible by both $2$ and $3$ in that case for a prime $mathfrakB$ of $K(sqrtd)$. Thus also in this last case we have a contradiction.

So this also doesn't work. I also don't see how working with something like $K(sqrtalpha)/K$ should work as $mathcalO_K$ is not always equal to $mathbbZ[alpha]$: the index $[mathcalO_K:mathbbZ[alpha]]$ can be anything as far as I can tell. Thus I don't see how I can do calculations on explicit primes of a ring like $mathcalO_K[sqrtalpha]$.



Does anyone know the answer?



Edit: Okey, so after using Magma's command IsUnramified on $K(sqrtw)/K$ for various values of $k$ and $winmathbbZ[alpha]$, I found that for $k$ up to say $1000$ we have that $K(sqrtkalpha)/K$ is unramified. However I'm still a bit annoyed with this because a) I have no idea how to prove this (for the finite primes), and b) I have no idea how this seems like a logical thing to try. Surely I must be missing something?










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  • Here's an idea, which might help you. After some lengthy computation you can prove that $operatornamedisc mathbbZ[alpha]$ is an odd integer and thus $2 nmid [mathcal O_K: mathbbZ[alpha]$. This enables us to factor $2mathcal O_K$, as $(2,alpha - 1)(2,alpha^2 + alpha + 1)$. Now checking by computer for some lower values of $k$ we notice that $(2,alpha - 1)$ has even order in the ideal group of $K/mathbbQ$. However I don't see a way of proving this.
    – Stefan4024
    Sep 10 at 20:57











  • Thank you for the idea, but I don't see either how that could be done. I also checked with a computer but the orders seem to become immense as $k$ becomes large unfortunately. It was an exercise right after a chapter discussing the basic properties of ray class fields (and the Hilbert class field), so I really think the solution is to construct an unramified quadratic extension. Other exercises near it also use this angle to obtain information about the class group. Also: $mathrmdiscmathbbZ[alpha]=Delta(f)$ which is clearly odd, is that a lengthy computation?
    – Tim.ev
    Sep 10 at 21:17










  • I used the formula $operatornamedisc mathbbZ[alpha] = -(-1)^fracn(n+1)2N(f'(alpha))$
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    Sep 10 at 21:49















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This is an exercise found in course notes I have for an introductory course in class field theory and it has been bugging me a for long time.



So $K=mathbbQ(alpha)$, with $alpha$ a root of $f=X^3+4kX-k$. Here $kgeq 1$ is an odd integer. The polynomial $f$ is irreducible by Perron's criterion, although that uses maybe a bit much. We have $Delta(f)=-k^2(256k+27)$ hence $mathrmGal(f)cong S_3$.



I tried to find an unramified quadratic extension of $K$, which would imply the result as such an extension is clearly Abelian and hence contained in the Hilbert class field of $K$. The first candidate would be its normal closure $K(sqrtDelta(f))=K(sqrt-256k-27)$, but $K(sqrt-256k-27)/K$ is ramified at the real place of $K$.



I next tried to consider $K(sqrtd)$ for any square-free integer $dneq 1$, but this also cannot happen: if $K(sqrtd)/K$ is unramified then $d>1$ because $K(sqrtd)$ has to be totally real. As $2$ doesn't divide $Delta(f)$ we see that $2$ is unramified in $K(sqrtd)/mathbbQ$, hence also in $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$ so $dequiv 1bmod 4$. Thus if $p$ is a rational prime dividing $d$ we have $pneq 2$ and $p$ ramifies in $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$. There are now three cases.



  1. If $p$ is unramified in $K$ then clearly $K(sqrtd)/K$ cannot be unramified as then $K(sqrtd)/mathbbQ$ would be unramified while it contains $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$

  2. If $p$ is ramified in $K$ as $pmathcalO_K=mathfrakp^2mathfrakq$, then we have tame ramification of $p$ in $K$, and Abhyankar's implies that $mathfrakp$ is unramified in $K(sqrtd)$.
    However $mathfrakq$ still ramifies in $K(sqrtd)$ because of $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$.

  3. If $p$ is totally ramified in $K$ then $p$ is totally ramified in $K(sqrtd)$, because $e(mathfrakB|p)$ is divisible by both $2$ and $3$ in that case for a prime $mathfrakB$ of $K(sqrtd)$. Thus also in this last case we have a contradiction.

So this also doesn't work. I also don't see how working with something like $K(sqrtalpha)/K$ should work as $mathcalO_K$ is not always equal to $mathbbZ[alpha]$: the index $[mathcalO_K:mathbbZ[alpha]]$ can be anything as far as I can tell. Thus I don't see how I can do calculations on explicit primes of a ring like $mathcalO_K[sqrtalpha]$.



Does anyone know the answer?



Edit: Okey, so after using Magma's command IsUnramified on $K(sqrtw)/K$ for various values of $k$ and $winmathbbZ[alpha]$, I found that for $k$ up to say $1000$ we have that $K(sqrtkalpha)/K$ is unramified. However I'm still a bit annoyed with this because a) I have no idea how to prove this (for the finite primes), and b) I have no idea how this seems like a logical thing to try. Surely I must be missing something?










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  • Here's an idea, which might help you. After some lengthy computation you can prove that $operatornamedisc mathbbZ[alpha]$ is an odd integer and thus $2 nmid [mathcal O_K: mathbbZ[alpha]$. This enables us to factor $2mathcal O_K$, as $(2,alpha - 1)(2,alpha^2 + alpha + 1)$. Now checking by computer for some lower values of $k$ we notice that $(2,alpha - 1)$ has even order in the ideal group of $K/mathbbQ$. However I don't see a way of proving this.
    – Stefan4024
    Sep 10 at 20:57











  • Thank you for the idea, but I don't see either how that could be done. I also checked with a computer but the orders seem to become immense as $k$ becomes large unfortunately. It was an exercise right after a chapter discussing the basic properties of ray class fields (and the Hilbert class field), so I really think the solution is to construct an unramified quadratic extension. Other exercises near it also use this angle to obtain information about the class group. Also: $mathrmdiscmathbbZ[alpha]=Delta(f)$ which is clearly odd, is that a lengthy computation?
    – Tim.ev
    Sep 10 at 21:17










  • I used the formula $operatornamedisc mathbbZ[alpha] = -(-1)^fracn(n+1)2N(f'(alpha))$
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    Sep 10 at 21:49













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This is an exercise found in course notes I have for an introductory course in class field theory and it has been bugging me a for long time.



So $K=mathbbQ(alpha)$, with $alpha$ a root of $f=X^3+4kX-k$. Here $kgeq 1$ is an odd integer. The polynomial $f$ is irreducible by Perron's criterion, although that uses maybe a bit much. We have $Delta(f)=-k^2(256k+27)$ hence $mathrmGal(f)cong S_3$.



I tried to find an unramified quadratic extension of $K$, which would imply the result as such an extension is clearly Abelian and hence contained in the Hilbert class field of $K$. The first candidate would be its normal closure $K(sqrtDelta(f))=K(sqrt-256k-27)$, but $K(sqrt-256k-27)/K$ is ramified at the real place of $K$.



I next tried to consider $K(sqrtd)$ for any square-free integer $dneq 1$, but this also cannot happen: if $K(sqrtd)/K$ is unramified then $d>1$ because $K(sqrtd)$ has to be totally real. As $2$ doesn't divide $Delta(f)$ we see that $2$ is unramified in $K(sqrtd)/mathbbQ$, hence also in $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$ so $dequiv 1bmod 4$. Thus if $p$ is a rational prime dividing $d$ we have $pneq 2$ and $p$ ramifies in $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$. There are now three cases.



  1. If $p$ is unramified in $K$ then clearly $K(sqrtd)/K$ cannot be unramified as then $K(sqrtd)/mathbbQ$ would be unramified while it contains $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$

  2. If $p$ is ramified in $K$ as $pmathcalO_K=mathfrakp^2mathfrakq$, then we have tame ramification of $p$ in $K$, and Abhyankar's implies that $mathfrakp$ is unramified in $K(sqrtd)$.
    However $mathfrakq$ still ramifies in $K(sqrtd)$ because of $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$.

  3. If $p$ is totally ramified in $K$ then $p$ is totally ramified in $K(sqrtd)$, because $e(mathfrakB|p)$ is divisible by both $2$ and $3$ in that case for a prime $mathfrakB$ of $K(sqrtd)$. Thus also in this last case we have a contradiction.

So this also doesn't work. I also don't see how working with something like $K(sqrtalpha)/K$ should work as $mathcalO_K$ is not always equal to $mathbbZ[alpha]$: the index $[mathcalO_K:mathbbZ[alpha]]$ can be anything as far as I can tell. Thus I don't see how I can do calculations on explicit primes of a ring like $mathcalO_K[sqrtalpha]$.



Does anyone know the answer?



Edit: Okey, so after using Magma's command IsUnramified on $K(sqrtw)/K$ for various values of $k$ and $winmathbbZ[alpha]$, I found that for $k$ up to say $1000$ we have that $K(sqrtkalpha)/K$ is unramified. However I'm still a bit annoyed with this because a) I have no idea how to prove this (for the finite primes), and b) I have no idea how this seems like a logical thing to try. Surely I must be missing something?










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This is an exercise found in course notes I have for an introductory course in class field theory and it has been bugging me a for long time.



So $K=mathbbQ(alpha)$, with $alpha$ a root of $f=X^3+4kX-k$. Here $kgeq 1$ is an odd integer. The polynomial $f$ is irreducible by Perron's criterion, although that uses maybe a bit much. We have $Delta(f)=-k^2(256k+27)$ hence $mathrmGal(f)cong S_3$.



I tried to find an unramified quadratic extension of $K$, which would imply the result as such an extension is clearly Abelian and hence contained in the Hilbert class field of $K$. The first candidate would be its normal closure $K(sqrtDelta(f))=K(sqrt-256k-27)$, but $K(sqrt-256k-27)/K$ is ramified at the real place of $K$.



I next tried to consider $K(sqrtd)$ for any square-free integer $dneq 1$, but this also cannot happen: if $K(sqrtd)/K$ is unramified then $d>1$ because $K(sqrtd)$ has to be totally real. As $2$ doesn't divide $Delta(f)$ we see that $2$ is unramified in $K(sqrtd)/mathbbQ$, hence also in $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$ so $dequiv 1bmod 4$. Thus if $p$ is a rational prime dividing $d$ we have $pneq 2$ and $p$ ramifies in $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$. There are now three cases.



  1. If $p$ is unramified in $K$ then clearly $K(sqrtd)/K$ cannot be unramified as then $K(sqrtd)/mathbbQ$ would be unramified while it contains $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$

  2. If $p$ is ramified in $K$ as $pmathcalO_K=mathfrakp^2mathfrakq$, then we have tame ramification of $p$ in $K$, and Abhyankar's implies that $mathfrakp$ is unramified in $K(sqrtd)$.
    However $mathfrakq$ still ramifies in $K(sqrtd)$ because of $mathbbQ(sqrtd)$.

  3. If $p$ is totally ramified in $K$ then $p$ is totally ramified in $K(sqrtd)$, because $e(mathfrakB|p)$ is divisible by both $2$ and $3$ in that case for a prime $mathfrakB$ of $K(sqrtd)$. Thus also in this last case we have a contradiction.

So this also doesn't work. I also don't see how working with something like $K(sqrtalpha)/K$ should work as $mathcalO_K$ is not always equal to $mathbbZ[alpha]$: the index $[mathcalO_K:mathbbZ[alpha]]$ can be anything as far as I can tell. Thus I don't see how I can do calculations on explicit primes of a ring like $mathcalO_K[sqrtalpha]$.



Does anyone know the answer?



Edit: Okey, so after using Magma's command IsUnramified on $K(sqrtw)/K$ for various values of $k$ and $winmathbbZ[alpha]$, I found that for $k$ up to say $1000$ we have that $K(sqrtkalpha)/K$ is unramified. However I'm still a bit annoyed with this because a) I have no idea how to prove this (for the finite primes), and b) I have no idea how this seems like a logical thing to try. Surely I must be missing something?







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  • Here's an idea, which might help you. After some lengthy computation you can prove that $operatornamedisc mathbbZ[alpha]$ is an odd integer and thus $2 nmid [mathcal O_K: mathbbZ[alpha]$. This enables us to factor $2mathcal O_K$, as $(2,alpha - 1)(2,alpha^2 + alpha + 1)$. Now checking by computer for some lower values of $k$ we notice that $(2,alpha - 1)$ has even order in the ideal group of $K/mathbbQ$. However I don't see a way of proving this.
    – Stefan4024
    Sep 10 at 20:57











  • Thank you for the idea, but I don't see either how that could be done. I also checked with a computer but the orders seem to become immense as $k$ becomes large unfortunately. It was an exercise right after a chapter discussing the basic properties of ray class fields (and the Hilbert class field), so I really think the solution is to construct an unramified quadratic extension. Other exercises near it also use this angle to obtain information about the class group. Also: $mathrmdiscmathbbZ[alpha]=Delta(f)$ which is clearly odd, is that a lengthy computation?
    – Tim.ev
    Sep 10 at 21:17










  • I used the formula $operatornamedisc mathbbZ[alpha] = -(-1)^fracn(n+1)2N(f'(alpha))$
    – Stefan4024
    Sep 10 at 21:49

















  • Here's an idea, which might help you. After some lengthy computation you can prove that $operatornamedisc mathbbZ[alpha]$ is an odd integer and thus $2 nmid [mathcal O_K: mathbbZ[alpha]$. This enables us to factor $2mathcal O_K$, as $(2,alpha - 1)(2,alpha^2 + alpha + 1)$. Now checking by computer for some lower values of $k$ we notice that $(2,alpha - 1)$ has even order in the ideal group of $K/mathbbQ$. However I don't see a way of proving this.
    – Stefan4024
    Sep 10 at 20:57











  • Thank you for the idea, but I don't see either how that could be done. I also checked with a computer but the orders seem to become immense as $k$ becomes large unfortunately. It was an exercise right after a chapter discussing the basic properties of ray class fields (and the Hilbert class field), so I really think the solution is to construct an unramified quadratic extension. Other exercises near it also use this angle to obtain information about the class group. Also: $mathrmdiscmathbbZ[alpha]=Delta(f)$ which is clearly odd, is that a lengthy computation?
    – Tim.ev
    Sep 10 at 21:17










  • I used the formula $operatornamedisc mathbbZ[alpha] = -(-1)^fracn(n+1)2N(f'(alpha))$
    – Stefan4024
    Sep 10 at 21:49
















Here's an idea, which might help you. After some lengthy computation you can prove that $operatornamedisc mathbbZ[alpha]$ is an odd integer and thus $2 nmid [mathcal O_K: mathbbZ[alpha]$. This enables us to factor $2mathcal O_K$, as $(2,alpha - 1)(2,alpha^2 + alpha + 1)$. Now checking by computer for some lower values of $k$ we notice that $(2,alpha - 1)$ has even order in the ideal group of $K/mathbbQ$. However I don't see a way of proving this.
– Stefan4024
Sep 10 at 20:57





Here's an idea, which might help you. After some lengthy computation you can prove that $operatornamedisc mathbbZ[alpha]$ is an odd integer and thus $2 nmid [mathcal O_K: mathbbZ[alpha]$. This enables us to factor $2mathcal O_K$, as $(2,alpha - 1)(2,alpha^2 + alpha + 1)$. Now checking by computer for some lower values of $k$ we notice that $(2,alpha - 1)$ has even order in the ideal group of $K/mathbbQ$. However I don't see a way of proving this.
– Stefan4024
Sep 10 at 20:57













Thank you for the idea, but I don't see either how that could be done. I also checked with a computer but the orders seem to become immense as $k$ becomes large unfortunately. It was an exercise right after a chapter discussing the basic properties of ray class fields (and the Hilbert class field), so I really think the solution is to construct an unramified quadratic extension. Other exercises near it also use this angle to obtain information about the class group. Also: $mathrmdiscmathbbZ[alpha]=Delta(f)$ which is clearly odd, is that a lengthy computation?
– Tim.ev
Sep 10 at 21:17




Thank you for the idea, but I don't see either how that could be done. I also checked with a computer but the orders seem to become immense as $k$ becomes large unfortunately. It was an exercise right after a chapter discussing the basic properties of ray class fields (and the Hilbert class field), so I really think the solution is to construct an unramified quadratic extension. Other exercises near it also use this angle to obtain information about the class group. Also: $mathrmdiscmathbbZ[alpha]=Delta(f)$ which is clearly odd, is that a lengthy computation?
– Tim.ev
Sep 10 at 21:17












I used the formula $operatornamedisc mathbbZ[alpha] = -(-1)^fracn(n+1)2N(f'(alpha))$
– Stefan4024
Sep 10 at 21:49





I used the formula $operatornamedisc mathbbZ[alpha] = -(-1)^fracn(n+1)2N(f'(alpha))$
– Stefan4024
Sep 10 at 21:49











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This is not a complete answer but it is a proof of your observation that $Bbb Q(alpha) subset Bbb Q(alpha,sqrtkalpha)$ is unramified.



Let $v$ be the valuation of a non-archimedean place of $Bbb Q(alpha)$.

Since $alpha^3 + 4kalpha - k = 0$, the two terms with lowest valuation must have the same valuation.



We have $v(4kalpha) = v(k) + v(4alpha) ge v(k)$, so $v(k)$ has to be that lowest valuation.

If $v(alpha^3) = v(k)$ then $v(k) = 3v(alpha)$ and so $v(kalpha) = 4v(alpha)$, which is even.

If $v(4kalpha) = v(k)$ then $v(alpha)=0$ and so $v(k)=v(alpha)=0$, and then $v(kalpha)$ is also even.



In fact, this shows that $alpha^3/k = 1-4alpha$ is a unit $u$ of the ring of integers of $Bbb Q(alpha)$ (you can indeed compute its inverse, $1+64k+4alpha+16alpha^2$), and then the extension $Bbb Q(alpha) subset Bbb Q(alpha,sqrtkalpha) = Bbb Q(alpha,sqrt u)$ can only be ramified at $2$ and infinity. In the real embedding of $Bbb Q(alpha)$, $alpha$ is positive, thus so is $u$, which only leaves $2$.
Since $1-4alpha$ is congruent to $1$ mod $4$, this extension is also obtained by adjoining $(1pm sqrt u)/2$, the roots of $X^2-X+alpha$. So the extension is unramified.



We have left to show that the extension is nontrivial, by showing that $u$ is actually not a square of another unit. Also, we haven't used yet the assumption that $k$ was odd.






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  • Thank you! I don't see why your valuation computation proves that $1-4alpha$ is a unit. Aren't you only showing it is only a local unit? Anyway, it is a global unit. The extension is non-trivial: if it were trivial then $X^2-X+alpha$ has a root in $K$ and hence in $mathcalO_K$. Reducing mod the prime $mathfrakp_2=(2,alpha-1)$ (this uses that $k$ is odd!), we would get that $X^2+X+1$ has a root in $mathcalO_K/mathfrakp_2=mathbbF_2$. So I guess this completes the proof! I'l accept your anwser.
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  • do you have an example of a number field or other Dedekind domain with a local unit that is not a global unit ?
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  • Well $2inmathbbZ$ becomes a unit in $mathbbZ_(3)$.
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    Sep 11 at 20:37











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This is not a complete answer but it is a proof of your observation that $Bbb Q(alpha) subset Bbb Q(alpha,sqrtkalpha)$ is unramified.



Let $v$ be the valuation of a non-archimedean place of $Bbb Q(alpha)$.

Since $alpha^3 + 4kalpha - k = 0$, the two terms with lowest valuation must have the same valuation.



We have $v(4kalpha) = v(k) + v(4alpha) ge v(k)$, so $v(k)$ has to be that lowest valuation.

If $v(alpha^3) = v(k)$ then $v(k) = 3v(alpha)$ and so $v(kalpha) = 4v(alpha)$, which is even.

If $v(4kalpha) = v(k)$ then $v(alpha)=0$ and so $v(k)=v(alpha)=0$, and then $v(kalpha)$ is also even.



In fact, this shows that $alpha^3/k = 1-4alpha$ is a unit $u$ of the ring of integers of $Bbb Q(alpha)$ (you can indeed compute its inverse, $1+64k+4alpha+16alpha^2$), and then the extension $Bbb Q(alpha) subset Bbb Q(alpha,sqrtkalpha) = Bbb Q(alpha,sqrt u)$ can only be ramified at $2$ and infinity. In the real embedding of $Bbb Q(alpha)$, $alpha$ is positive, thus so is $u$, which only leaves $2$.
Since $1-4alpha$ is congruent to $1$ mod $4$, this extension is also obtained by adjoining $(1pm sqrt u)/2$, the roots of $X^2-X+alpha$. So the extension is unramified.



We have left to show that the extension is nontrivial, by showing that $u$ is actually not a square of another unit. Also, we haven't used yet the assumption that $k$ was odd.






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  • Thank you! I don't see why your valuation computation proves that $1-4alpha$ is a unit. Aren't you only showing it is only a local unit? Anyway, it is a global unit. The extension is non-trivial: if it were trivial then $X^2-X+alpha$ has a root in $K$ and hence in $mathcalO_K$. Reducing mod the prime $mathfrakp_2=(2,alpha-1)$ (this uses that $k$ is odd!), we would get that $X^2+X+1$ has a root in $mathcalO_K/mathfrakp_2=mathbbF_2$. So I guess this completes the proof! I'l accept your anwser.
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  • do you have an example of a number field or other Dedekind domain with a local unit that is not a global unit ?
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    Sep 11 at 19:21










  • Well $2inmathbbZ$ becomes a unit in $mathbbZ_(3)$.
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This is not a complete answer but it is a proof of your observation that $Bbb Q(alpha) subset Bbb Q(alpha,sqrtkalpha)$ is unramified.



Let $v$ be the valuation of a non-archimedean place of $Bbb Q(alpha)$.

Since $alpha^3 + 4kalpha - k = 0$, the two terms with lowest valuation must have the same valuation.



We have $v(4kalpha) = v(k) + v(4alpha) ge v(k)$, so $v(k)$ has to be that lowest valuation.

If $v(alpha^3) = v(k)$ then $v(k) = 3v(alpha)$ and so $v(kalpha) = 4v(alpha)$, which is even.

If $v(4kalpha) = v(k)$ then $v(alpha)=0$ and so $v(k)=v(alpha)=0$, and then $v(kalpha)$ is also even.



In fact, this shows that $alpha^3/k = 1-4alpha$ is a unit $u$ of the ring of integers of $Bbb Q(alpha)$ (you can indeed compute its inverse, $1+64k+4alpha+16alpha^2$), and then the extension $Bbb Q(alpha) subset Bbb Q(alpha,sqrtkalpha) = Bbb Q(alpha,sqrt u)$ can only be ramified at $2$ and infinity. In the real embedding of $Bbb Q(alpha)$, $alpha$ is positive, thus so is $u$, which only leaves $2$.
Since $1-4alpha$ is congruent to $1$ mod $4$, this extension is also obtained by adjoining $(1pm sqrt u)/2$, the roots of $X^2-X+alpha$. So the extension is unramified.



We have left to show that the extension is nontrivial, by showing that $u$ is actually not a square of another unit. Also, we haven't used yet the assumption that $k$ was odd.






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  • Thank you! I don't see why your valuation computation proves that $1-4alpha$ is a unit. Aren't you only showing it is only a local unit? Anyway, it is a global unit. The extension is non-trivial: if it were trivial then $X^2-X+alpha$ has a root in $K$ and hence in $mathcalO_K$. Reducing mod the prime $mathfrakp_2=(2,alpha-1)$ (this uses that $k$ is odd!), we would get that $X^2+X+1$ has a root in $mathcalO_K/mathfrakp_2=mathbbF_2$. So I guess this completes the proof! I'l accept your anwser.
    – Tim.ev
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  • do you have an example of a number field or other Dedekind domain with a local unit that is not a global unit ?
    – mercio
    Sep 11 at 19:21










  • Well $2inmathbbZ$ becomes a unit in $mathbbZ_(3)$.
    – Tim.ev
    Sep 11 at 20:37













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This is not a complete answer but it is a proof of your observation that $Bbb Q(alpha) subset Bbb Q(alpha,sqrtkalpha)$ is unramified.



Let $v$ be the valuation of a non-archimedean place of $Bbb Q(alpha)$.

Since $alpha^3 + 4kalpha - k = 0$, the two terms with lowest valuation must have the same valuation.



We have $v(4kalpha) = v(k) + v(4alpha) ge v(k)$, so $v(k)$ has to be that lowest valuation.

If $v(alpha^3) = v(k)$ then $v(k) = 3v(alpha)$ and so $v(kalpha) = 4v(alpha)$, which is even.

If $v(4kalpha) = v(k)$ then $v(alpha)=0$ and so $v(k)=v(alpha)=0$, and then $v(kalpha)$ is also even.



In fact, this shows that $alpha^3/k = 1-4alpha$ is a unit $u$ of the ring of integers of $Bbb Q(alpha)$ (you can indeed compute its inverse, $1+64k+4alpha+16alpha^2$), and then the extension $Bbb Q(alpha) subset Bbb Q(alpha,sqrtkalpha) = Bbb Q(alpha,sqrt u)$ can only be ramified at $2$ and infinity. In the real embedding of $Bbb Q(alpha)$, $alpha$ is positive, thus so is $u$, which only leaves $2$.
Since $1-4alpha$ is congruent to $1$ mod $4$, this extension is also obtained by adjoining $(1pm sqrt u)/2$, the roots of $X^2-X+alpha$. So the extension is unramified.



We have left to show that the extension is nontrivial, by showing that $u$ is actually not a square of another unit. Also, we haven't used yet the assumption that $k$ was odd.






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This is not a complete answer but it is a proof of your observation that $Bbb Q(alpha) subset Bbb Q(alpha,sqrtkalpha)$ is unramified.



Let $v$ be the valuation of a non-archimedean place of $Bbb Q(alpha)$.

Since $alpha^3 + 4kalpha - k = 0$, the two terms with lowest valuation must have the same valuation.



We have $v(4kalpha) = v(k) + v(4alpha) ge v(k)$, so $v(k)$ has to be that lowest valuation.

If $v(alpha^3) = v(k)$ then $v(k) = 3v(alpha)$ and so $v(kalpha) = 4v(alpha)$, which is even.

If $v(4kalpha) = v(k)$ then $v(alpha)=0$ and so $v(k)=v(alpha)=0$, and then $v(kalpha)$ is also even.



In fact, this shows that $alpha^3/k = 1-4alpha$ is a unit $u$ of the ring of integers of $Bbb Q(alpha)$ (you can indeed compute its inverse, $1+64k+4alpha+16alpha^2$), and then the extension $Bbb Q(alpha) subset Bbb Q(alpha,sqrtkalpha) = Bbb Q(alpha,sqrt u)$ can only be ramified at $2$ and infinity. In the real embedding of $Bbb Q(alpha)$, $alpha$ is positive, thus so is $u$, which only leaves $2$.
Since $1-4alpha$ is congruent to $1$ mod $4$, this extension is also obtained by adjoining $(1pm sqrt u)/2$, the roots of $X^2-X+alpha$. So the extension is unramified.



We have left to show that the extension is nontrivial, by showing that $u$ is actually not a square of another unit. Also, we haven't used yet the assumption that $k$ was odd.







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  • Thank you! I don't see why your valuation computation proves that $1-4alpha$ is a unit. Aren't you only showing it is only a local unit? Anyway, it is a global unit. The extension is non-trivial: if it were trivial then $X^2-X+alpha$ has a root in $K$ and hence in $mathcalO_K$. Reducing mod the prime $mathfrakp_2=(2,alpha-1)$ (this uses that $k$ is odd!), we would get that $X^2+X+1$ has a root in $mathcalO_K/mathfrakp_2=mathbbF_2$. So I guess this completes the proof! I'l accept your anwser.
    – Tim.ev
    Sep 11 at 16:58










  • do you have an example of a number field or other Dedekind domain with a local unit that is not a global unit ?
    – mercio
    Sep 11 at 19:21










  • Well $2inmathbbZ$ becomes a unit in $mathbbZ_(3)$.
    – Tim.ev
    Sep 11 at 20:37

















  • Thank you! I don't see why your valuation computation proves that $1-4alpha$ is a unit. Aren't you only showing it is only a local unit? Anyway, it is a global unit. The extension is non-trivial: if it were trivial then $X^2-X+alpha$ has a root in $K$ and hence in $mathcalO_K$. Reducing mod the prime $mathfrakp_2=(2,alpha-1)$ (this uses that $k$ is odd!), we would get that $X^2+X+1$ has a root in $mathcalO_K/mathfrakp_2=mathbbF_2$. So I guess this completes the proof! I'l accept your anwser.
    – Tim.ev
    Sep 11 at 16:58










  • do you have an example of a number field or other Dedekind domain with a local unit that is not a global unit ?
    – mercio
    Sep 11 at 19:21










  • Well $2inmathbbZ$ becomes a unit in $mathbbZ_(3)$.
    – Tim.ev
    Sep 11 at 20:37
















Thank you! I don't see why your valuation computation proves that $1-4alpha$ is a unit. Aren't you only showing it is only a local unit? Anyway, it is a global unit. The extension is non-trivial: if it were trivial then $X^2-X+alpha$ has a root in $K$ and hence in $mathcalO_K$. Reducing mod the prime $mathfrakp_2=(2,alpha-1)$ (this uses that $k$ is odd!), we would get that $X^2+X+1$ has a root in $mathcalO_K/mathfrakp_2=mathbbF_2$. So I guess this completes the proof! I'l accept your anwser.
– Tim.ev
Sep 11 at 16:58




Thank you! I don't see why your valuation computation proves that $1-4alpha$ is a unit. Aren't you only showing it is only a local unit? Anyway, it is a global unit. The extension is non-trivial: if it were trivial then $X^2-X+alpha$ has a root in $K$ and hence in $mathcalO_K$. Reducing mod the prime $mathfrakp_2=(2,alpha-1)$ (this uses that $k$ is odd!), we would get that $X^2+X+1$ has a root in $mathcalO_K/mathfrakp_2=mathbbF_2$. So I guess this completes the proof! I'l accept your anwser.
– Tim.ev
Sep 11 at 16:58












do you have an example of a number field or other Dedekind domain with a local unit that is not a global unit ?
– mercio
Sep 11 at 19:21




do you have an example of a number field or other Dedekind domain with a local unit that is not a global unit ?
– mercio
Sep 11 at 19:21












Well $2inmathbbZ$ becomes a unit in $mathbbZ_(3)$.
– Tim.ev
Sep 11 at 20:37





Well $2inmathbbZ$ becomes a unit in $mathbbZ_(3)$.
– Tim.ev
Sep 11 at 20:37


















 

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