Does Heine-Borel Theorem hold in $prod_alpha in A mathbbC$, where $A$ is any index set? [closed]

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Does Heine-Borel Theorem hold in $prod_alpha in A mathbbC$, where $A$ is any set? That is is, every closed and bounded set compact in $prod_alpha in A mathbbC$?



In finite case this is true. I am not sure about infinite product.










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Does Heine-Borel Theorem hold in $prod_alpha in A mathbbC$, where $A$ is any set? That is is, every closed and bounded set compact in $prod_alpha in A mathbbC$?



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Does Heine-Borel Theorem hold in $prod_alpha in A mathbbC$, where $A$ is any set? That is is, every closed and bounded set compact in $prod_alpha in A mathbbC$?



In finite case this is true. I am not sure about infinite product.







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There is no standard notion of "bounded" for a subset of $mathbbC^A$ in general. When $A$ is finite then all norms on $mathbbC^A$ are equivalent and give a canonical notion of boundedness, but this all breaks down if $A$ is infinite. Indeed, if $A$ is uncountable, then $mathbbC^A$ is not even metrizable (in the product topology).



However, if you take "bounded" to mean "bounded on each coordinate separately", then the answer is yes. That is, suppose $SsubseteqmathbbC^A$ is a closed set such that for each $ain A$, the set $f(a):fin SsubseteqmathbbC$ is bounded. Then $S$ is compact. This follows from Tychonoff's theorem: any product of compact spaces is compact. So, letting $B_a$ be a closed ball containing $f(a):fin S$, the product $prod_ain AB_a$ is compact and $S$ is a closed subset of it, and so $S$ is also compact.






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    To the proposer: Tychonoff's theorem (a.k.a. the Tychonoff Theorem) is not something I would call obvious.
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There is no standard notion of "bounded" for a subset of $mathbbC^A$ in general. When $A$ is finite then all norms on $mathbbC^A$ are equivalent and give a canonical notion of boundedness, but this all breaks down if $A$ is infinite. Indeed, if $A$ is uncountable, then $mathbbC^A$ is not even metrizable (in the product topology).



However, if you take "bounded" to mean "bounded on each coordinate separately", then the answer is yes. That is, suppose $SsubseteqmathbbC^A$ is a closed set such that for each $ain A$, the set $f(a):fin SsubseteqmathbbC$ is bounded. Then $S$ is compact. This follows from Tychonoff's theorem: any product of compact spaces is compact. So, letting $B_a$ be a closed ball containing $f(a):fin S$, the product $prod_ain AB_a$ is compact and $S$ is a closed subset of it, and so $S$ is also compact.






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    To the proposer: Tychonoff's theorem (a.k.a. the Tychonoff Theorem) is not something I would call obvious.
    – DanielWainfleet
    Sep 11 at 0:34















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There is no standard notion of "bounded" for a subset of $mathbbC^A$ in general. When $A$ is finite then all norms on $mathbbC^A$ are equivalent and give a canonical notion of boundedness, but this all breaks down if $A$ is infinite. Indeed, if $A$ is uncountable, then $mathbbC^A$ is not even metrizable (in the product topology).



However, if you take "bounded" to mean "bounded on each coordinate separately", then the answer is yes. That is, suppose $SsubseteqmathbbC^A$ is a closed set such that for each $ain A$, the set $f(a):fin SsubseteqmathbbC$ is bounded. Then $S$ is compact. This follows from Tychonoff's theorem: any product of compact spaces is compact. So, letting $B_a$ be a closed ball containing $f(a):fin S$, the product $prod_ain AB_a$ is compact and $S$ is a closed subset of it, and so $S$ is also compact.






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    To the proposer: Tychonoff's theorem (a.k.a. the Tychonoff Theorem) is not something I would call obvious.
    – DanielWainfleet
    Sep 11 at 0:34













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There is no standard notion of "bounded" for a subset of $mathbbC^A$ in general. When $A$ is finite then all norms on $mathbbC^A$ are equivalent and give a canonical notion of boundedness, but this all breaks down if $A$ is infinite. Indeed, if $A$ is uncountable, then $mathbbC^A$ is not even metrizable (in the product topology).



However, if you take "bounded" to mean "bounded on each coordinate separately", then the answer is yes. That is, suppose $SsubseteqmathbbC^A$ is a closed set such that for each $ain A$, the set $f(a):fin SsubseteqmathbbC$ is bounded. Then $S$ is compact. This follows from Tychonoff's theorem: any product of compact spaces is compact. So, letting $B_a$ be a closed ball containing $f(a):fin S$, the product $prod_ain AB_a$ is compact and $S$ is a closed subset of it, and so $S$ is also compact.






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There is no standard notion of "bounded" for a subset of $mathbbC^A$ in general. When $A$ is finite then all norms on $mathbbC^A$ are equivalent and give a canonical notion of boundedness, but this all breaks down if $A$ is infinite. Indeed, if $A$ is uncountable, then $mathbbC^A$ is not even metrizable (in the product topology).



However, if you take "bounded" to mean "bounded on each coordinate separately", then the answer is yes. That is, suppose $SsubseteqmathbbC^A$ is a closed set such that for each $ain A$, the set $f(a):fin SsubseteqmathbbC$ is bounded. Then $S$ is compact. This follows from Tychonoff's theorem: any product of compact spaces is compact. So, letting $B_a$ be a closed ball containing $f(a):fin S$, the product $prod_ain AB_a$ is compact and $S$ is a closed subset of it, and so $S$ is also compact.







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    To the proposer: Tychonoff's theorem (a.k.a. the Tychonoff Theorem) is not something I would call obvious.
    – DanielWainfleet
    Sep 11 at 0:34













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    To the proposer: Tychonoff's theorem (a.k.a. the Tychonoff Theorem) is not something I would call obvious.
    – DanielWainfleet
    Sep 11 at 0:34








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To the proposer: Tychonoff's theorem (a.k.a. the Tychonoff Theorem) is not something I would call obvious.
– DanielWainfleet
Sep 11 at 0:34





To the proposer: Tychonoff's theorem (a.k.a. the Tychonoff Theorem) is not something I would call obvious.
– DanielWainfleet
Sep 11 at 0:34



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