Does changing the order of the indices of the Kronecker delta within a summation matter?
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In my notes I have that
$$sum_m a_m delta_nm=a_1delta_n1+a_2delta_n2+a_3delta_n3+cdots=a_ntagA$$
Is this really correct?
I thought that for the Kronecker delta the first index must match the summation index. For this reason, I thought that the expression $(mathrmA)$ should written as
$$sum_colorbluem a_m delta_colorbluemn=a_1delta_1n+a_2delta_2n+a_3delta_3n+cdots=a_ntagB$$
Just to make my argument clear, I have made the color of the indices match.
After looking at this page on the Kronecker delta I know that it is okay to write
$$sum_ja_jdelta_ij=a_itag1$$
or
$$sum_ia_idelta_ij=a_jtag2$$
Expression $(1)$ matches $(mathrmA)$ and expression $(2)$ matches $(mathrmB)$
So does this mean that switching the order of the indices of the Kronecker delta (within a summation) has no effect on the result (the RHS), or am I missing something?
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In my notes I have that
$$sum_m a_m delta_nm=a_1delta_n1+a_2delta_n2+a_3delta_n3+cdots=a_ntagA$$
Is this really correct?
I thought that for the Kronecker delta the first index must match the summation index. For this reason, I thought that the expression $(mathrmA)$ should written as
$$sum_colorbluem a_m delta_colorbluemn=a_1delta_1n+a_2delta_2n+a_3delta_3n+cdots=a_ntagB$$
Just to make my argument clear, I have made the color of the indices match.
After looking at this page on the Kronecker delta I know that it is okay to write
$$sum_ja_jdelta_ij=a_itag1$$
or
$$sum_ia_idelta_ij=a_jtag2$$
Expression $(1)$ matches $(mathrmA)$ and expression $(2)$ matches $(mathrmB)$
So does this mean that switching the order of the indices of the Kronecker delta (within a summation) has no effect on the result (the RHS), or am I missing something?
sequences-and-series algebra-precalculus summation index-notation kronecker-delta
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In my notes I have that
$$sum_m a_m delta_nm=a_1delta_n1+a_2delta_n2+a_3delta_n3+cdots=a_ntagA$$
Is this really correct?
I thought that for the Kronecker delta the first index must match the summation index. For this reason, I thought that the expression $(mathrmA)$ should written as
$$sum_colorbluem a_m delta_colorbluemn=a_1delta_1n+a_2delta_2n+a_3delta_3n+cdots=a_ntagB$$
Just to make my argument clear, I have made the color of the indices match.
After looking at this page on the Kronecker delta I know that it is okay to write
$$sum_ja_jdelta_ij=a_itag1$$
or
$$sum_ia_idelta_ij=a_jtag2$$
Expression $(1)$ matches $(mathrmA)$ and expression $(2)$ matches $(mathrmB)$
So does this mean that switching the order of the indices of the Kronecker delta (within a summation) has no effect on the result (the RHS), or am I missing something?
sequences-and-series algebra-precalculus summation index-notation kronecker-delta
In my notes I have that
$$sum_m a_m delta_nm=a_1delta_n1+a_2delta_n2+a_3delta_n3+cdots=a_ntagA$$
Is this really correct?
I thought that for the Kronecker delta the first index must match the summation index. For this reason, I thought that the expression $(mathrmA)$ should written as
$$sum_colorbluem a_m delta_colorbluemn=a_1delta_1n+a_2delta_2n+a_3delta_3n+cdots=a_ntagB$$
Just to make my argument clear, I have made the color of the indices match.
After looking at this page on the Kronecker delta I know that it is okay to write
$$sum_ja_jdelta_ij=a_itag1$$
or
$$sum_ia_idelta_ij=a_jtag2$$
Expression $(1)$ matches $(mathrmA)$ and expression $(2)$ matches $(mathrmB)$
So does this mean that switching the order of the indices of the Kronecker delta (within a summation) has no effect on the result (the RHS), or am I missing something?
sequences-and-series algebra-precalculus summation index-notation kronecker-delta
sequences-and-series algebra-precalculus summation index-notation kronecker-delta
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The Kronecker symbol $delta_ij$ is used to say $delta_ii=1$ and $delta_ij=0$ if $i neq j$.
This is independent of any summation. Kronecker symbol can be used in general. That being said, the evaluation of formula $(A)$ is perfectly correct as the only term that is not vanishing is when index $m$ is equal to $n$.
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So is it okay to switch the order of the indices or not (the question I'm asking)?
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Sep 10 at 19:06
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I updated the answer. In the specific case of sum $(A)$, you can indeed switch the indices.
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By its definition, $delta_i,j=delta_j,i,$ [one can drop the commas as you have] one can switch the indices anywhere, in a sum or otherwise.
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The Kronecker symbol $delta_ij$ is used to say $delta_ii=1$ and $delta_ij=0$ if $i neq j$.
This is independent of any summation. Kronecker symbol can be used in general. That being said, the evaluation of formula $(A)$ is perfectly correct as the only term that is not vanishing is when index $m$ is equal to $n$.
1
So is it okay to switch the order of the indices or not (the question I'm asking)?
â BLAZE
Sep 10 at 19:06
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I updated the answer. In the specific case of sum $(A)$, you can indeed switch the indices.
â mathcounterexamples.net
Sep 10 at 19:10
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The Kronecker symbol $delta_ij$ is used to say $delta_ii=1$ and $delta_ij=0$ if $i neq j$.
This is independent of any summation. Kronecker symbol can be used in general. That being said, the evaluation of formula $(A)$ is perfectly correct as the only term that is not vanishing is when index $m$ is equal to $n$.
1
So is it okay to switch the order of the indices or not (the question I'm asking)?
â BLAZE
Sep 10 at 19:06
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I updated the answer. In the specific case of sum $(A)$, you can indeed switch the indices.
â mathcounterexamples.net
Sep 10 at 19:10
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The Kronecker symbol $delta_ij$ is used to say $delta_ii=1$ and $delta_ij=0$ if $i neq j$.
This is independent of any summation. Kronecker symbol can be used in general. That being said, the evaluation of formula $(A)$ is perfectly correct as the only term that is not vanishing is when index $m$ is equal to $n$.
The Kronecker symbol $delta_ij$ is used to say $delta_ii=1$ and $delta_ij=0$ if $i neq j$.
This is independent of any summation. Kronecker symbol can be used in general. That being said, the evaluation of formula $(A)$ is perfectly correct as the only term that is not vanishing is when index $m$ is equal to $n$.
answered Sep 10 at 19:03
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So is it okay to switch the order of the indices or not (the question I'm asking)?
â BLAZE
Sep 10 at 19:06
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I updated the answer. In the specific case of sum $(A)$, you can indeed switch the indices.
â mathcounterexamples.net
Sep 10 at 19:10
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1
So is it okay to switch the order of the indices or not (the question I'm asking)?
â BLAZE
Sep 10 at 19:06
1
I updated the answer. In the specific case of sum $(A)$, you can indeed switch the indices.
â mathcounterexamples.net
Sep 10 at 19:10
1
1
So is it okay to switch the order of the indices or not (the question I'm asking)?
â BLAZE
Sep 10 at 19:06
So is it okay to switch the order of the indices or not (the question I'm asking)?
â BLAZE
Sep 10 at 19:06
1
1
I updated the answer. In the specific case of sum $(A)$, you can indeed switch the indices.
â mathcounterexamples.net
Sep 10 at 19:10
I updated the answer. In the specific case of sum $(A)$, you can indeed switch the indices.
â mathcounterexamples.net
Sep 10 at 19:10
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By its definition, $delta_i,j=delta_j,i,$ [one can drop the commas as you have] one can switch the indices anywhere, in a sum or otherwise.
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By its definition, $delta_i,j=delta_j,i,$ [one can drop the commas as you have] one can switch the indices anywhere, in a sum or otherwise.
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By its definition, $delta_i,j=delta_j,i,$ [one can drop the commas as you have] one can switch the indices anywhere, in a sum or otherwise.
By its definition, $delta_i,j=delta_j,i,$ [one can drop the commas as you have] one can switch the indices anywhere, in a sum or otherwise.
answered Sep 10 at 19:08
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