Does changing the order of the indices of the Kronecker delta within a summation matter?

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In my notes I have that




$$sum_m a_m delta_nm=a_1delta_n1+a_2delta_n2+a_3delta_n3+cdots=a_ntagA$$




Is this really correct?



I thought that for the Kronecker delta the first index must match the summation index. For this reason, I thought that the expression $(mathrmA)$ should written as



$$sum_colorbluem a_m delta_colorbluemn=a_1delta_1n+a_2delta_2n+a_3delta_3n+cdots=a_ntagB$$



Just to make my argument clear, I have made the color of the indices match.



After looking at this page on the Kronecker delta I know that it is okay to write
$$sum_ja_jdelta_ij=a_itag1$$
or
$$sum_ia_idelta_ij=a_jtag2$$



Expression $(1)$ matches $(mathrmA)$ and expression $(2)$ matches $(mathrmB)$




So does this mean that switching the order of the indices of the Kronecker delta (within a summation) has no effect on the result (the RHS), or am I missing something?










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    In my notes I have that




    $$sum_m a_m delta_nm=a_1delta_n1+a_2delta_n2+a_3delta_n3+cdots=a_ntagA$$




    Is this really correct?



    I thought that for the Kronecker delta the first index must match the summation index. For this reason, I thought that the expression $(mathrmA)$ should written as



    $$sum_colorbluem a_m delta_colorbluemn=a_1delta_1n+a_2delta_2n+a_3delta_3n+cdots=a_ntagB$$



    Just to make my argument clear, I have made the color of the indices match.



    After looking at this page on the Kronecker delta I know that it is okay to write
    $$sum_ja_jdelta_ij=a_itag1$$
    or
    $$sum_ia_idelta_ij=a_jtag2$$



    Expression $(1)$ matches $(mathrmA)$ and expression $(2)$ matches $(mathrmB)$




    So does this mean that switching the order of the indices of the Kronecker delta (within a summation) has no effect on the result (the RHS), or am I missing something?










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      In my notes I have that




      $$sum_m a_m delta_nm=a_1delta_n1+a_2delta_n2+a_3delta_n3+cdots=a_ntagA$$




      Is this really correct?



      I thought that for the Kronecker delta the first index must match the summation index. For this reason, I thought that the expression $(mathrmA)$ should written as



      $$sum_colorbluem a_m delta_colorbluemn=a_1delta_1n+a_2delta_2n+a_3delta_3n+cdots=a_ntagB$$



      Just to make my argument clear, I have made the color of the indices match.



      After looking at this page on the Kronecker delta I know that it is okay to write
      $$sum_ja_jdelta_ij=a_itag1$$
      or
      $$sum_ia_idelta_ij=a_jtag2$$



      Expression $(1)$ matches $(mathrmA)$ and expression $(2)$ matches $(mathrmB)$




      So does this mean that switching the order of the indices of the Kronecker delta (within a summation) has no effect on the result (the RHS), or am I missing something?










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      In my notes I have that




      $$sum_m a_m delta_nm=a_1delta_n1+a_2delta_n2+a_3delta_n3+cdots=a_ntagA$$




      Is this really correct?



      I thought that for the Kronecker delta the first index must match the summation index. For this reason, I thought that the expression $(mathrmA)$ should written as



      $$sum_colorbluem a_m delta_colorbluemn=a_1delta_1n+a_2delta_2n+a_3delta_3n+cdots=a_ntagB$$



      Just to make my argument clear, I have made the color of the indices match.



      After looking at this page on the Kronecker delta I know that it is okay to write
      $$sum_ja_jdelta_ij=a_itag1$$
      or
      $$sum_ia_idelta_ij=a_jtag2$$



      Expression $(1)$ matches $(mathrmA)$ and expression $(2)$ matches $(mathrmB)$




      So does this mean that switching the order of the indices of the Kronecker delta (within a summation) has no effect on the result (the RHS), or am I missing something?







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          The Kronecker symbol $delta_ij$ is used to say $delta_ii=1$ and $delta_ij=0$ if $i neq j$.



          This is independent of any summation. Kronecker symbol can be used in general. That being said, the evaluation of formula $(A)$ is perfectly correct as the only term that is not vanishing is when index $m$ is equal to $n$.






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            So is it okay to switch the order of the indices or not (the question I'm asking)?
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            I updated the answer. In the specific case of sum $(A)$, you can indeed switch the indices.
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          By its definition, $delta_i,j=delta_j,i,$ [one can drop the commas as you have] one can switch the indices anywhere, in a sum or otherwise.






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            The Kronecker symbol $delta_ij$ is used to say $delta_ii=1$ and $delta_ij=0$ if $i neq j$.



            This is independent of any summation. Kronecker symbol can be used in general. That being said, the evaluation of formula $(A)$ is perfectly correct as the only term that is not vanishing is when index $m$ is equal to $n$.






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              So is it okay to switch the order of the indices or not (the question I'm asking)?
              – BLAZE
              Sep 10 at 19:06






            • 1




              I updated the answer. In the specific case of sum $(A)$, you can indeed switch the indices.
              – mathcounterexamples.net
              Sep 10 at 19:10















            up vote
            1
            down vote



            accepted










            The Kronecker symbol $delta_ij$ is used to say $delta_ii=1$ and $delta_ij=0$ if $i neq j$.



            This is independent of any summation. Kronecker symbol can be used in general. That being said, the evaluation of formula $(A)$ is perfectly correct as the only term that is not vanishing is when index $m$ is equal to $n$.






            share|cite|improve this answer
















            • 1




              So is it okay to switch the order of the indices or not (the question I'm asking)?
              – BLAZE
              Sep 10 at 19:06






            • 1




              I updated the answer. In the specific case of sum $(A)$, you can indeed switch the indices.
              – mathcounterexamples.net
              Sep 10 at 19:10













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            The Kronecker symbol $delta_ij$ is used to say $delta_ii=1$ and $delta_ij=0$ if $i neq j$.



            This is independent of any summation. Kronecker symbol can be used in general. That being said, the evaluation of formula $(A)$ is perfectly correct as the only term that is not vanishing is when index $m$ is equal to $n$.






            share|cite|improve this answer












            The Kronecker symbol $delta_ij$ is used to say $delta_ii=1$ and $delta_ij=0$ if $i neq j$.



            This is independent of any summation. Kronecker symbol can be used in general. That being said, the evaluation of formula $(A)$ is perfectly correct as the only term that is not vanishing is when index $m$ is equal to $n$.







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              So is it okay to switch the order of the indices or not (the question I'm asking)?
              – BLAZE
              Sep 10 at 19:06






            • 1




              I updated the answer. In the specific case of sum $(A)$, you can indeed switch the indices.
              – mathcounterexamples.net
              Sep 10 at 19:10













            • 1




              So is it okay to switch the order of the indices or not (the question I'm asking)?
              – BLAZE
              Sep 10 at 19:06






            • 1




              I updated the answer. In the specific case of sum $(A)$, you can indeed switch the indices.
              – mathcounterexamples.net
              Sep 10 at 19:10








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            So is it okay to switch the order of the indices or not (the question I'm asking)?
            – BLAZE
            Sep 10 at 19:06




            So is it okay to switch the order of the indices or not (the question I'm asking)?
            – BLAZE
            Sep 10 at 19:06




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            1




            I updated the answer. In the specific case of sum $(A)$, you can indeed switch the indices.
            – mathcounterexamples.net
            Sep 10 at 19:10





            I updated the answer. In the specific case of sum $(A)$, you can indeed switch the indices.
            – mathcounterexamples.net
            Sep 10 at 19:10











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            By its definition, $delta_i,j=delta_j,i,$ [one can drop the commas as you have] one can switch the indices anywhere, in a sum or otherwise.






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              By its definition, $delta_i,j=delta_j,i,$ [one can drop the commas as you have] one can switch the indices anywhere, in a sum or otherwise.






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                By its definition, $delta_i,j=delta_j,i,$ [one can drop the commas as you have] one can switch the indices anywhere, in a sum or otherwise.






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                By its definition, $delta_i,j=delta_j,i,$ [one can drop the commas as you have] one can switch the indices anywhere, in a sum or otherwise.







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