Finding a limit inside a limit 2
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I'm stuck with this problem:
Given $lim limits_x to 2 fracf(x+2)+3f(x^2)x^2+1=3$ find $lim limits_x to 4 f(x)$
I've alreadly asked this question (with a different example) (Finding a limit inside a limit) and I understood it perfectly, but I'm stuck in the last step:
$g(x)=fracf(x+2)+3f(x^2)x^2+1$ with $lim limits_x to 2 g(x)=3$
Solving for $f$:
$f(x+2)+f(x^2)=fracg(x)(x^2+1)5$
Now finding the limit as $x to 2$
$lim limits_xto 2 fracg(x)(x^2+1)5=lim limits_xto 2f(x+2)+f(x^2)=3$
And now I have no idea what to do...
$lim limits_xto 2 f(x+2) + lim limits_xto 2 f(x^2) = 3$
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I'm stuck with this problem:
Given $lim limits_x to 2 fracf(x+2)+3f(x^2)x^2+1=3$ find $lim limits_x to 4 f(x)$
I've alreadly asked this question (with a different example) (Finding a limit inside a limit) and I understood it perfectly, but I'm stuck in the last step:
$g(x)=fracf(x+2)+3f(x^2)x^2+1$ with $lim limits_x to 2 g(x)=3$
Solving for $f$:
$f(x+2)+f(x^2)=fracg(x)(x^2+1)5$
Now finding the limit as $x to 2$
$lim limits_xto 2 fracg(x)(x^2+1)5=lim limits_xto 2f(x+2)+f(x^2)=3$
And now I have no idea what to do...
$lim limits_xto 2 f(x+2) + lim limits_xto 2 f(x^2) = 3$
calculus real-analysis limits
I hope your question assumes that $lim_xto 4f(x)$ exists.
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Sep 10 at 21:49
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I'm stuck with this problem:
Given $lim limits_x to 2 fracf(x+2)+3f(x^2)x^2+1=3$ find $lim limits_x to 4 f(x)$
I've alreadly asked this question (with a different example) (Finding a limit inside a limit) and I understood it perfectly, but I'm stuck in the last step:
$g(x)=fracf(x+2)+3f(x^2)x^2+1$ with $lim limits_x to 2 g(x)=3$
Solving for $f$:
$f(x+2)+f(x^2)=fracg(x)(x^2+1)5$
Now finding the limit as $x to 2$
$lim limits_xto 2 fracg(x)(x^2+1)5=lim limits_xto 2f(x+2)+f(x^2)=3$
And now I have no idea what to do...
$lim limits_xto 2 f(x+2) + lim limits_xto 2 f(x^2) = 3$
calculus real-analysis limits
I'm stuck with this problem:
Given $lim limits_x to 2 fracf(x+2)+3f(x^2)x^2+1=3$ find $lim limits_x to 4 f(x)$
I've alreadly asked this question (with a different example) (Finding a limit inside a limit) and I understood it perfectly, but I'm stuck in the last step:
$g(x)=fracf(x+2)+3f(x^2)x^2+1$ with $lim limits_x to 2 g(x)=3$
Solving for $f$:
$f(x+2)+f(x^2)=fracg(x)(x^2+1)5$
Now finding the limit as $x to 2$
$lim limits_xto 2 fracg(x)(x^2+1)5=lim limits_xto 2f(x+2)+f(x^2)=3$
And now I have no idea what to do...
$lim limits_xto 2 f(x+2) + lim limits_xto 2 f(x^2) = 3$
calculus real-analysis limits
calculus real-analysis limits
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I hope your question assumes that $lim_xto 4f(x)$ exists.
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I hope your question assumes that $lim_xto 4f(x)$ exists.
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Sep 10 at 21:49
I hope your question assumes that $lim_xto 4f(x)$ exists.
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Sep 10 at 21:49
I hope your question assumes that $lim_xto 4f(x)$ exists.
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We do not reduce generality by assuming $f$ continuous at $x=2$ (we know that the limit exists), and the question can be simply solved as
$$fracf(4)+3f(4)2^2+1=3implies f(4)=frac154.$$
@RushabhMehta: because it is convenient to set $f(4)=lim_xto4f(x)$, and this does not reduce the generality.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:00
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@RushabhMehta: no, this does not reduce generality, the value of $f(4)$ is in fact immaterial. This is just a matter of convenience, I don't want to introduce a heavy notation such as $f^*(x):= f(x) land f^*(4)=lim_xto4f(x)$ and blahblah.
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Sep 10 at 21:02
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$$lim limits_x to 2 fracf(x+2)+3f(x^2)x^2+1=3$$
Assuming the limits exist, we have $$lim limits_x to 2 f(x+2)+3f(x^2) = 3(2^2)+1=15$$
Thus $4 (lim _xto 4 f(x))= 15 $ which results in $lim _xto 4=15/4$
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For the first limit, do the variable change $u = x+2$, so that $u to 4$ as $x to 2$, giving
$$ lim_xto 2 f(x+2) =lim_uto 2 f(u), $$
and for the second limit, do the variable change $v = x^2$, so that $v to 4$ as $x to 2$, giving
$$ lim_xto 2 f(x^2)=lim_vto 2 f(v), $$
so that the LHS of the final equality in your post is $$2lim_xto 4 f(x). $$ Also, the RHS in that same equality is wrong, as pointed out by the others.
Sorry, could you please do more steps? I've been trying to do this but I couldn't.
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Sep 10 at 21:02
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You are almost there!
First, let's note that since $2^2+1=5$, so $limlimits_xto2f(x+2)+3lim_xto2f(x^2)=15$, not $3$.
Next, note a very special property of $2$: $2^2=2+2$. This is important because we know then that $limlimits_xto2f(x+2)=limlimits_xto2f(x^2)=limlimits_xto4f(x)$ as polynomials are continuous functions. Hence, $4cdotlimlimits_xto4f(x)=15$ so $$lim_xto4f(x)=colorredfrac154$$
It is nowhere said that $f$ is a polynomial function, and as you know, continuity at $x=4$ is not required.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:08
@YvesDaoust I never said $f$ is polynomial. $x^2$ and $x+2$ are, which leads the limits to be the same. Please read before you downvote.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 21:12
I'd be more comfortable upvoting if you were to explain why $lim limits_xto 2left(f(x+2)+3fleft(x^2right)right)$ exists and, at least state that $lim limits_xto 2left(fleft(x^2right)right)$ existing implies that $lim limits_xto 4left(f(x)right)$. I do not agree that just saying $xmapsto x^2$ is continuous is convincing enough. In this context, if $lim (varphi circ psi)$ and $lim psi$ exist, you can't just say that $lim varphi$ exists without some explanation.
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Sep 10 at 21:33
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4 Answers
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We do not reduce generality by assuming $f$ continuous at $x=2$ (we know that the limit exists), and the question can be simply solved as
$$fracf(4)+3f(4)2^2+1=3implies f(4)=frac154.$$
@RushabhMehta: because it is convenient to set $f(4)=lim_xto4f(x)$, and this does not reduce the generality.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:00
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@RushabhMehta: no, this does not reduce generality, the value of $f(4)$ is in fact immaterial. This is just a matter of convenience, I don't want to introduce a heavy notation such as $f^*(x):= f(x) land f^*(4)=lim_xto4f(x)$ and blahblah.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:02
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We do not reduce generality by assuming $f$ continuous at $x=2$ (we know that the limit exists), and the question can be simply solved as
$$fracf(4)+3f(4)2^2+1=3implies f(4)=frac154.$$
@RushabhMehta: because it is convenient to set $f(4)=lim_xto4f(x)$, and this does not reduce the generality.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:00
1
@RushabhMehta: no, this does not reduce generality, the value of $f(4)$ is in fact immaterial. This is just a matter of convenience, I don't want to introduce a heavy notation such as $f^*(x):= f(x) land f^*(4)=lim_xto4f(x)$ and blahblah.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:02
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up vote
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We do not reduce generality by assuming $f$ continuous at $x=2$ (we know that the limit exists), and the question can be simply solved as
$$fracf(4)+3f(4)2^2+1=3implies f(4)=frac154.$$
We do not reduce generality by assuming $f$ continuous at $x=2$ (we know that the limit exists), and the question can be simply solved as
$$fracf(4)+3f(4)2^2+1=3implies f(4)=frac154.$$
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answered Sep 10 at 20:58
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@RushabhMehta: because it is convenient to set $f(4)=lim_xto4f(x)$, and this does not reduce the generality.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:00
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@RushabhMehta: no, this does not reduce generality, the value of $f(4)$ is in fact immaterial. This is just a matter of convenience, I don't want to introduce a heavy notation such as $f^*(x):= f(x) land f^*(4)=lim_xto4f(x)$ and blahblah.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:02
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@RushabhMehta: because it is convenient to set $f(4)=lim_xto4f(x)$, and this does not reduce the generality.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:00
1
@RushabhMehta: no, this does not reduce generality, the value of $f(4)$ is in fact immaterial. This is just a matter of convenience, I don't want to introduce a heavy notation such as $f^*(x):= f(x) land f^*(4)=lim_xto4f(x)$ and blahblah.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:02
@RushabhMehta: because it is convenient to set $f(4)=lim_xto4f(x)$, and this does not reduce the generality.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:00
@RushabhMehta: because it is convenient to set $f(4)=lim_xto4f(x)$, and this does not reduce the generality.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:00
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@RushabhMehta: no, this does not reduce generality, the value of $f(4)$ is in fact immaterial. This is just a matter of convenience, I don't want to introduce a heavy notation such as $f^*(x):= f(x) land f^*(4)=lim_xto4f(x)$ and blahblah.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:02
@RushabhMehta: no, this does not reduce generality, the value of $f(4)$ is in fact immaterial. This is just a matter of convenience, I don't want to introduce a heavy notation such as $f^*(x):= f(x) land f^*(4)=lim_xto4f(x)$ and blahblah.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:02
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$$lim limits_x to 2 fracf(x+2)+3f(x^2)x^2+1=3$$
Assuming the limits exist, we have $$lim limits_x to 2 f(x+2)+3f(x^2) = 3(2^2)+1=15$$
Thus $4 (lim _xto 4 f(x))= 15 $ which results in $lim _xto 4=15/4$
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$$lim limits_x to 2 fracf(x+2)+3f(x^2)x^2+1=3$$
Assuming the limits exist, we have $$lim limits_x to 2 f(x+2)+3f(x^2) = 3(2^2)+1=15$$
Thus $4 (lim _xto 4 f(x))= 15 $ which results in $lim _xto 4=15/4$
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$$lim limits_x to 2 fracf(x+2)+3f(x^2)x^2+1=3$$
Assuming the limits exist, we have $$lim limits_x to 2 f(x+2)+3f(x^2) = 3(2^2)+1=15$$
Thus $4 (lim _xto 4 f(x))= 15 $ which results in $lim _xto 4=15/4$
$$lim limits_x to 2 fracf(x+2)+3f(x^2)x^2+1=3$$
Assuming the limits exist, we have $$lim limits_x to 2 f(x+2)+3f(x^2) = 3(2^2)+1=15$$
Thus $4 (lim _xto 4 f(x))= 15 $ which results in $lim _xto 4=15/4$
answered Sep 10 at 20:59
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For the first limit, do the variable change $u = x+2$, so that $u to 4$ as $x to 2$, giving
$$ lim_xto 2 f(x+2) =lim_uto 2 f(u), $$
and for the second limit, do the variable change $v = x^2$, so that $v to 4$ as $x to 2$, giving
$$ lim_xto 2 f(x^2)=lim_vto 2 f(v), $$
so that the LHS of the final equality in your post is $$2lim_xto 4 f(x). $$ Also, the RHS in that same equality is wrong, as pointed out by the others.
Sorry, could you please do more steps? I've been trying to do this but I couldn't.
â parishilton
Sep 10 at 21:02
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For the first limit, do the variable change $u = x+2$, so that $u to 4$ as $x to 2$, giving
$$ lim_xto 2 f(x+2) =lim_uto 2 f(u), $$
and for the second limit, do the variable change $v = x^2$, so that $v to 4$ as $x to 2$, giving
$$ lim_xto 2 f(x^2)=lim_vto 2 f(v), $$
so that the LHS of the final equality in your post is $$2lim_xto 4 f(x). $$ Also, the RHS in that same equality is wrong, as pointed out by the others.
Sorry, could you please do more steps? I've been trying to do this but I couldn't.
â parishilton
Sep 10 at 21:02
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For the first limit, do the variable change $u = x+2$, so that $u to 4$ as $x to 2$, giving
$$ lim_xto 2 f(x+2) =lim_uto 2 f(u), $$
and for the second limit, do the variable change $v = x^2$, so that $v to 4$ as $x to 2$, giving
$$ lim_xto 2 f(x^2)=lim_vto 2 f(v), $$
so that the LHS of the final equality in your post is $$2lim_xto 4 f(x). $$ Also, the RHS in that same equality is wrong, as pointed out by the others.
For the first limit, do the variable change $u = x+2$, so that $u to 4$ as $x to 2$, giving
$$ lim_xto 2 f(x+2) =lim_uto 2 f(u), $$
and for the second limit, do the variable change $v = x^2$, so that $v to 4$ as $x to 2$, giving
$$ lim_xto 2 f(x^2)=lim_vto 2 f(v), $$
so that the LHS of the final equality in your post is $$2lim_xto 4 f(x). $$ Also, the RHS in that same equality is wrong, as pointed out by the others.
edited Sep 10 at 21:15
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Sorry, could you please do more steps? I've been trying to do this but I couldn't.
â parishilton
Sep 10 at 21:02
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Sorry, could you please do more steps? I've been trying to do this but I couldn't.
â parishilton
Sep 10 at 21:02
Sorry, could you please do more steps? I've been trying to do this but I couldn't.
â parishilton
Sep 10 at 21:02
Sorry, could you please do more steps? I've been trying to do this but I couldn't.
â parishilton
Sep 10 at 21:02
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You are almost there!
First, let's note that since $2^2+1=5$, so $limlimits_xto2f(x+2)+3lim_xto2f(x^2)=15$, not $3$.
Next, note a very special property of $2$: $2^2=2+2$. This is important because we know then that $limlimits_xto2f(x+2)=limlimits_xto2f(x^2)=limlimits_xto4f(x)$ as polynomials are continuous functions. Hence, $4cdotlimlimits_xto4f(x)=15$ so $$lim_xto4f(x)=colorredfrac154$$
It is nowhere said that $f$ is a polynomial function, and as you know, continuity at $x=4$ is not required.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:08
@YvesDaoust I never said $f$ is polynomial. $x^2$ and $x+2$ are, which leads the limits to be the same. Please read before you downvote.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 21:12
I'd be more comfortable upvoting if you were to explain why $lim limits_xto 2left(f(x+2)+3fleft(x^2right)right)$ exists and, at least state that $lim limits_xto 2left(fleft(x^2right)right)$ existing implies that $lim limits_xto 4left(f(x)right)$. I do not agree that just saying $xmapsto x^2$ is continuous is convincing enough. In this context, if $lim (varphi circ psi)$ and $lim psi$ exist, you can't just say that $lim varphi$ exists without some explanation.
â Git Gud
Sep 10 at 21:33
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You are almost there!
First, let's note that since $2^2+1=5$, so $limlimits_xto2f(x+2)+3lim_xto2f(x^2)=15$, not $3$.
Next, note a very special property of $2$: $2^2=2+2$. This is important because we know then that $limlimits_xto2f(x+2)=limlimits_xto2f(x^2)=limlimits_xto4f(x)$ as polynomials are continuous functions. Hence, $4cdotlimlimits_xto4f(x)=15$ so $$lim_xto4f(x)=colorredfrac154$$
It is nowhere said that $f$ is a polynomial function, and as you know, continuity at $x=4$ is not required.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:08
@YvesDaoust I never said $f$ is polynomial. $x^2$ and $x+2$ are, which leads the limits to be the same. Please read before you downvote.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 21:12
I'd be more comfortable upvoting if you were to explain why $lim limits_xto 2left(f(x+2)+3fleft(x^2right)right)$ exists and, at least state that $lim limits_xto 2left(fleft(x^2right)right)$ existing implies that $lim limits_xto 4left(f(x)right)$. I do not agree that just saying $xmapsto x^2$ is continuous is convincing enough. In this context, if $lim (varphi circ psi)$ and $lim psi$ exist, you can't just say that $lim varphi$ exists without some explanation.
â Git Gud
Sep 10 at 21:33
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You are almost there!
First, let's note that since $2^2+1=5$, so $limlimits_xto2f(x+2)+3lim_xto2f(x^2)=15$, not $3$.
Next, note a very special property of $2$: $2^2=2+2$. This is important because we know then that $limlimits_xto2f(x+2)=limlimits_xto2f(x^2)=limlimits_xto4f(x)$ as polynomials are continuous functions. Hence, $4cdotlimlimits_xto4f(x)=15$ so $$lim_xto4f(x)=colorredfrac154$$
You are almost there!
First, let's note that since $2^2+1=5$, so $limlimits_xto2f(x+2)+3lim_xto2f(x^2)=15$, not $3$.
Next, note a very special property of $2$: $2^2=2+2$. This is important because we know then that $limlimits_xto2f(x+2)=limlimits_xto2f(x^2)=limlimits_xto4f(x)$ as polynomials are continuous functions. Hence, $4cdotlimlimits_xto4f(x)=15$ so $$lim_xto4f(x)=colorredfrac154$$
edited Sep 10 at 21:28
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It is nowhere said that $f$ is a polynomial function, and as you know, continuity at $x=4$ is not required.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:08
@YvesDaoust I never said $f$ is polynomial. $x^2$ and $x+2$ are, which leads the limits to be the same. Please read before you downvote.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 21:12
I'd be more comfortable upvoting if you were to explain why $lim limits_xto 2left(f(x+2)+3fleft(x^2right)right)$ exists and, at least state that $lim limits_xto 2left(fleft(x^2right)right)$ existing implies that $lim limits_xto 4left(f(x)right)$. I do not agree that just saying $xmapsto x^2$ is continuous is convincing enough. In this context, if $lim (varphi circ psi)$ and $lim psi$ exist, you can't just say that $lim varphi$ exists without some explanation.
â Git Gud
Sep 10 at 21:33
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It is nowhere said that $f$ is a polynomial function, and as you know, continuity at $x=4$ is not required.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:08
@YvesDaoust I never said $f$ is polynomial. $x^2$ and $x+2$ are, which leads the limits to be the same. Please read before you downvote.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 21:12
I'd be more comfortable upvoting if you were to explain why $lim limits_xto 2left(f(x+2)+3fleft(x^2right)right)$ exists and, at least state that $lim limits_xto 2left(fleft(x^2right)right)$ existing implies that $lim limits_xto 4left(f(x)right)$. I do not agree that just saying $xmapsto x^2$ is continuous is convincing enough. In this context, if $lim (varphi circ psi)$ and $lim psi$ exist, you can't just say that $lim varphi$ exists without some explanation.
â Git Gud
Sep 10 at 21:33
It is nowhere said that $f$ is a polynomial function, and as you know, continuity at $x=4$ is not required.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:08
It is nowhere said that $f$ is a polynomial function, and as you know, continuity at $x=4$ is not required.
â Yves Daoust
Sep 10 at 21:08
@YvesDaoust I never said $f$ is polynomial. $x^2$ and $x+2$ are, which leads the limits to be the same. Please read before you downvote.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 21:12
@YvesDaoust I never said $f$ is polynomial. $x^2$ and $x+2$ are, which leads the limits to be the same. Please read before you downvote.
â Rushabh Mehta
Sep 10 at 21:12
I'd be more comfortable upvoting if you were to explain why $lim limits_xto 2left(f(x+2)+3fleft(x^2right)right)$ exists and, at least state that $lim limits_xto 2left(fleft(x^2right)right)$ existing implies that $lim limits_xto 4left(f(x)right)$. I do not agree that just saying $xmapsto x^2$ is continuous is convincing enough. In this context, if $lim (varphi circ psi)$ and $lim psi$ exist, you can't just say that $lim varphi$ exists without some explanation.
â Git Gud
Sep 10 at 21:33
I'd be more comfortable upvoting if you were to explain why $lim limits_xto 2left(f(x+2)+3fleft(x^2right)right)$ exists and, at least state that $lim limits_xto 2left(fleft(x^2right)right)$ existing implies that $lim limits_xto 4left(f(x)right)$. I do not agree that just saying $xmapsto x^2$ is continuous is convincing enough. In this context, if $lim (varphi circ psi)$ and $lim psi$ exist, you can't just say that $lim varphi$ exists without some explanation.
â Git Gud
Sep 10 at 21:33
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I hope your question assumes that $lim_xto 4f(x)$ exists.
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