Finding $lim_xto 0 frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$ using definition of a limit
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I need to either compute $$lim_xto 0 dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$ using definition of a limit or prove it doesn't exist.
My attempt:
Given $epsilon > 0$, we wish to find $N$ such that $forall x geq N$,
$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| < epsilon.$$
We have
$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| = left|dfracx^2 + xx^2 + 1right| leq dfracx^2 + xx = x + 1 < epsilon. $$
Thus, we can choose $N geq epsilon - 1$ and then whenever $x > N$, we have $left|f(x)right| < epsilon implies lim_xto 0 f(x) = 0$
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I need to either compute $$lim_xto 0 dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$ using definition of a limit or prove it doesn't exist.
My attempt:
Given $epsilon > 0$, we wish to find $N$ such that $forall x geq N$,
$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| < epsilon.$$
We have
$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| = left|dfracx^2 + xx^2 + 1right| leq dfracx^2 + xx = x + 1 < epsilon. $$
Thus, we can choose $N geq epsilon - 1$ and then whenever $x > N$, we have $left|f(x)right| < epsilon implies lim_xto 0 f(x) = 0$
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This is correct.
â TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:32
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Alternatively, using L'Hopital, we arrive at $$lim_xto0frac-1/x^2-2/x^3=lim_xto0frac x2=0$$
â TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:33
okay. thank you.
â Hat
Aug 8 at 18:36
@Hat: If $x$ is approaching $0$, why do you want $x > N$?
â quasi
Aug 8 at 18:37
doesn't that follow from the definition of a limit ?
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I need to either compute $$lim_xto 0 dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$ using definition of a limit or prove it doesn't exist.
My attempt:
Given $epsilon > 0$, we wish to find $N$ such that $forall x geq N$,
$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| < epsilon.$$
We have
$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| = left|dfracx^2 + xx^2 + 1right| leq dfracx^2 + xx = x + 1 < epsilon. $$
Thus, we can choose $N geq epsilon - 1$ and then whenever $x > N$, we have $left|f(x)right| < epsilon implies lim_xto 0 f(x) = 0$
real-analysis limits proof-verification
I need to either compute $$lim_xto 0 dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$ using definition of a limit or prove it doesn't exist.
My attempt:
Given $epsilon > 0$, we wish to find $N$ such that $forall x geq N$,
$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| < epsilon.$$
We have
$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| = left|dfracx^2 + xx^2 + 1right| leq dfracx^2 + xx = x + 1 < epsilon. $$
Thus, we can choose $N geq epsilon - 1$ and then whenever $x > N$, we have $left|f(x)right| < epsilon implies lim_xto 0 f(x) = 0$
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edited Aug 8 at 18:34
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This is correct.
â TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:32
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Alternatively, using L'Hopital, we arrive at $$lim_xto0frac-1/x^2-2/x^3=lim_xto0frac x2=0$$
â TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:33
okay. thank you.
â Hat
Aug 8 at 18:36
@Hat: If $x$ is approaching $0$, why do you want $x > N$?
â quasi
Aug 8 at 18:37
doesn't that follow from the definition of a limit ?
â Hat
Aug 8 at 18:42
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This is correct.
â TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:32
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Alternatively, using L'Hopital, we arrive at $$lim_xto0frac-1/x^2-2/x^3=lim_xto0frac x2=0$$
â TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:33
okay. thank you.
â Hat
Aug 8 at 18:36
@Hat: If $x$ is approaching $0$, why do you want $x > N$?
â quasi
Aug 8 at 18:37
doesn't that follow from the definition of a limit ?
â Hat
Aug 8 at 18:42
This is correct.
â TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:32
This is correct.
â TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:32
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Alternatively, using L'Hopital, we arrive at $$lim_xto0frac-1/x^2-2/x^3=lim_xto0frac x2=0$$
â TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:33
Alternatively, using L'Hopital, we arrive at $$lim_xto0frac-1/x^2-2/x^3=lim_xto0frac x2=0$$
â TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:33
okay. thank you.
â Hat
Aug 8 at 18:36
okay. thank you.
â Hat
Aug 8 at 18:36
@Hat: If $x$ is approaching $0$, why do you want $x > N$?
â quasi
Aug 8 at 18:37
@Hat: If $x$ is approaching $0$, why do you want $x > N$?
â quasi
Aug 8 at 18:37
doesn't that follow from the definition of a limit ?
â Hat
Aug 8 at 18:42
doesn't that follow from the definition of a limit ?
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Let $f:mathbbRsetminus0to mathbbR$ be defined by
$$f(x)=frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$
Claim:$;lim_xto 0f(x) = 0$.
Let $epsilon > 0$, and let $delta=minbigl(1,largefracepsilon2bigr)$.
Suppose $|x| < delta$, $xne 0$. We want to show that $|f(x)| < epsilon$.
Since $|x| < 1$, it follows that $|x+1| < 2$, hence
beginalign*
|f(x)|
&=left|frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2right|\[4pt]
&=left|fracx^2+xx^2 + 1right|\[4pt]
&=fracleftleft\[4pt]
& < left|x^2+xright|\[4pt]
&=left|x(x+1)right|\[4pt]
&=|x||x+1|\[4pt]
&< 2left|xright|\[4pt]
& < 2delta\[4pt]
&< epsilon\[4pt]
endalign*
as was to be shown.
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You seem to be mixing two different $epsilon$-$delta$ definitions. Here they are:
- Let $ x_n _n in mathbbN$ be a sequence in $mathbbR$. We say that $x_n$ converges to $x$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $N in mathbbN$ such that $|x_n - x| < epsilon$ for all $n geq N$.
- Let $f : mathbbR to mathbbR$ and $c in mathbbR$. We say that $f$ has limit $L$ at $c$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $delta > 0$ such that $|f(x) - L| < epsilon$ whenever $0 < |x-c| < delta$.
You need to be using the second definition, but somehow there is an $N$ in your proof, and you are making a statement for all $x geq N$, which doesn't make sense.
However, the guess of $L = 0$ is accurate, and we have
$$
left| frac1+1/x1+1/x^2 - 0 right| = left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right|.
$$
Therefore, if $0 < |x| < delta$ for small enough delta (say, $0 < delta < 1$), then
$$
left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right| = |x|fracx+1x^2 + 1 < delta(delta + 1),
$$
where the last inequality holds because $inf < delta = 0$, and it is not attained inside the domain. Thus, given $epsilon > 0$ if we choose $delta > 0$ such that $delta < 1$ and $delta(delta + 1) < epsilon$ then we are done. The unique positive root of $y^2 + y - epsilon = 0$ is
$$
frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon2.
$$
Let $epsilon_1 = min epsilon, 1 $, and choose
$$
delta = frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon_12.
$$
Then, this choice of $delta$ satisfies our required criteria.
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2 Answers
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Let $f:mathbbRsetminus0to mathbbR$ be defined by
$$f(x)=frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$
Claim:$;lim_xto 0f(x) = 0$.
Let $epsilon > 0$, and let $delta=minbigl(1,largefracepsilon2bigr)$.
Suppose $|x| < delta$, $xne 0$. We want to show that $|f(x)| < epsilon$.
Since $|x| < 1$, it follows that $|x+1| < 2$, hence
beginalign*
|f(x)|
&=left|frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2right|\[4pt]
&=left|fracx^2+xx^2 + 1right|\[4pt]
&=fracleftleft\[4pt]
& < left|x^2+xright|\[4pt]
&=left|x(x+1)right|\[4pt]
&=|x||x+1|\[4pt]
&< 2left|xright|\[4pt]
& < 2delta\[4pt]
&< epsilon\[4pt]
endalign*
as was to be shown.
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Let $f:mathbbRsetminus0to mathbbR$ be defined by
$$f(x)=frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$
Claim:$;lim_xto 0f(x) = 0$.
Let $epsilon > 0$, and let $delta=minbigl(1,largefracepsilon2bigr)$.
Suppose $|x| < delta$, $xne 0$. We want to show that $|f(x)| < epsilon$.
Since $|x| < 1$, it follows that $|x+1| < 2$, hence
beginalign*
|f(x)|
&=left|frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2right|\[4pt]
&=left|fracx^2+xx^2 + 1right|\[4pt]
&=fracleftleft\[4pt]
& < left|x^2+xright|\[4pt]
&=left|x(x+1)right|\[4pt]
&=|x||x+1|\[4pt]
&< 2left|xright|\[4pt]
& < 2delta\[4pt]
&< epsilon\[4pt]
endalign*
as was to be shown.
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up vote
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Let $f:mathbbRsetminus0to mathbbR$ be defined by
$$f(x)=frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$
Claim:$;lim_xto 0f(x) = 0$.
Let $epsilon > 0$, and let $delta=minbigl(1,largefracepsilon2bigr)$.
Suppose $|x| < delta$, $xne 0$. We want to show that $|f(x)| < epsilon$.
Since $|x| < 1$, it follows that $|x+1| < 2$, hence
beginalign*
|f(x)|
&=left|frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2right|\[4pt]
&=left|fracx^2+xx^2 + 1right|\[4pt]
&=fracleftleft\[4pt]
& < left|x^2+xright|\[4pt]
&=left|x(x+1)right|\[4pt]
&=|x||x+1|\[4pt]
&< 2left|xright|\[4pt]
& < 2delta\[4pt]
&< epsilon\[4pt]
endalign*
as was to be shown.
Let $f:mathbbRsetminus0to mathbbR$ be defined by
$$f(x)=frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$
Claim:$;lim_xto 0f(x) = 0$.
Let $epsilon > 0$, and let $delta=minbigl(1,largefracepsilon2bigr)$.
Suppose $|x| < delta$, $xne 0$. We want to show that $|f(x)| < epsilon$.
Since $|x| < 1$, it follows that $|x+1| < 2$, hence
beginalign*
|f(x)|
&=left|frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2right|\[4pt]
&=left|fracx^2+xx^2 + 1right|\[4pt]
&=fracleftleft\[4pt]
& < left|x^2+xright|\[4pt]
&=left|x(x+1)right|\[4pt]
&=|x||x+1|\[4pt]
&< 2left|xright|\[4pt]
& < 2delta\[4pt]
&< epsilon\[4pt]
endalign*
as was to be shown.
edited Aug 8 at 19:47
answered Aug 8 at 19:25
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You seem to be mixing two different $epsilon$-$delta$ definitions. Here they are:
- Let $ x_n _n in mathbbN$ be a sequence in $mathbbR$. We say that $x_n$ converges to $x$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $N in mathbbN$ such that $|x_n - x| < epsilon$ for all $n geq N$.
- Let $f : mathbbR to mathbbR$ and $c in mathbbR$. We say that $f$ has limit $L$ at $c$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $delta > 0$ such that $|f(x) - L| < epsilon$ whenever $0 < |x-c| < delta$.
You need to be using the second definition, but somehow there is an $N$ in your proof, and you are making a statement for all $x geq N$, which doesn't make sense.
However, the guess of $L = 0$ is accurate, and we have
$$
left| frac1+1/x1+1/x^2 - 0 right| = left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right|.
$$
Therefore, if $0 < |x| < delta$ for small enough delta (say, $0 < delta < 1$), then
$$
left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right| = |x|fracx+1x^2 + 1 < delta(delta + 1),
$$
where the last inequality holds because $inf < delta = 0$, and it is not attained inside the domain. Thus, given $epsilon > 0$ if we choose $delta > 0$ such that $delta < 1$ and $delta(delta + 1) < epsilon$ then we are done. The unique positive root of $y^2 + y - epsilon = 0$ is
$$
frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon2.
$$
Let $epsilon_1 = min epsilon, 1 $, and choose
$$
delta = frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon_12.
$$
Then, this choice of $delta$ satisfies our required criteria.
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
You seem to be mixing two different $epsilon$-$delta$ definitions. Here they are:
- Let $ x_n _n in mathbbN$ be a sequence in $mathbbR$. We say that $x_n$ converges to $x$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $N in mathbbN$ such that $|x_n - x| < epsilon$ for all $n geq N$.
- Let $f : mathbbR to mathbbR$ and $c in mathbbR$. We say that $f$ has limit $L$ at $c$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $delta > 0$ such that $|f(x) - L| < epsilon$ whenever $0 < |x-c| < delta$.
You need to be using the second definition, but somehow there is an $N$ in your proof, and you are making a statement for all $x geq N$, which doesn't make sense.
However, the guess of $L = 0$ is accurate, and we have
$$
left| frac1+1/x1+1/x^2 - 0 right| = left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right|.
$$
Therefore, if $0 < |x| < delta$ for small enough delta (say, $0 < delta < 1$), then
$$
left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right| = |x|fracx+1x^2 + 1 < delta(delta + 1),
$$
where the last inequality holds because $inf < delta = 0$, and it is not attained inside the domain. Thus, given $epsilon > 0$ if we choose $delta > 0$ such that $delta < 1$ and $delta(delta + 1) < epsilon$ then we are done. The unique positive root of $y^2 + y - epsilon = 0$ is
$$
frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon2.
$$
Let $epsilon_1 = min epsilon, 1 $, and choose
$$
delta = frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon_12.
$$
Then, this choice of $delta$ satisfies our required criteria.
add a comment |Â
up vote
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up vote
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You seem to be mixing two different $epsilon$-$delta$ definitions. Here they are:
- Let $ x_n _n in mathbbN$ be a sequence in $mathbbR$. We say that $x_n$ converges to $x$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $N in mathbbN$ such that $|x_n - x| < epsilon$ for all $n geq N$.
- Let $f : mathbbR to mathbbR$ and $c in mathbbR$. We say that $f$ has limit $L$ at $c$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $delta > 0$ such that $|f(x) - L| < epsilon$ whenever $0 < |x-c| < delta$.
You need to be using the second definition, but somehow there is an $N$ in your proof, and you are making a statement for all $x geq N$, which doesn't make sense.
However, the guess of $L = 0$ is accurate, and we have
$$
left| frac1+1/x1+1/x^2 - 0 right| = left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right|.
$$
Therefore, if $0 < |x| < delta$ for small enough delta (say, $0 < delta < 1$), then
$$
left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right| = |x|fracx+1x^2 + 1 < delta(delta + 1),
$$
where the last inequality holds because $inf < delta = 0$, and it is not attained inside the domain. Thus, given $epsilon > 0$ if we choose $delta > 0$ such that $delta < 1$ and $delta(delta + 1) < epsilon$ then we are done. The unique positive root of $y^2 + y - epsilon = 0$ is
$$
frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon2.
$$
Let $epsilon_1 = min epsilon, 1 $, and choose
$$
delta = frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon_12.
$$
Then, this choice of $delta$ satisfies our required criteria.
You seem to be mixing two different $epsilon$-$delta$ definitions. Here they are:
- Let $ x_n _n in mathbbN$ be a sequence in $mathbbR$. We say that $x_n$ converges to $x$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $N in mathbbN$ such that $|x_n - x| < epsilon$ for all $n geq N$.
- Let $f : mathbbR to mathbbR$ and $c in mathbbR$. We say that $f$ has limit $L$ at $c$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $delta > 0$ such that $|f(x) - L| < epsilon$ whenever $0 < |x-c| < delta$.
You need to be using the second definition, but somehow there is an $N$ in your proof, and you are making a statement for all $x geq N$, which doesn't make sense.
However, the guess of $L = 0$ is accurate, and we have
$$
left| frac1+1/x1+1/x^2 - 0 right| = left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right|.
$$
Therefore, if $0 < |x| < delta$ for small enough delta (say, $0 < delta < 1$), then
$$
left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right| = |x|fracx+1x^2 + 1 < delta(delta + 1),
$$
where the last inequality holds because $inf < delta = 0$, and it is not attained inside the domain. Thus, given $epsilon > 0$ if we choose $delta > 0$ such that $delta < 1$ and $delta(delta + 1) < epsilon$ then we are done. The unique positive root of $y^2 + y - epsilon = 0$ is
$$
frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon2.
$$
Let $epsilon_1 = min epsilon, 1 $, and choose
$$
delta = frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon_12.
$$
Then, this choice of $delta$ satisfies our required criteria.
answered Aug 8 at 19:40
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This is correct.
â TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:32
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Alternatively, using L'Hopital, we arrive at $$lim_xto0frac-1/x^2-2/x^3=lim_xto0frac x2=0$$
â TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:33
okay. thank you.
â Hat
Aug 8 at 18:36
@Hat: If $x$ is approaching $0$, why do you want $x > N$?
â quasi
Aug 8 at 18:37
doesn't that follow from the definition of a limit ?
â Hat
Aug 8 at 18:42