Finding $lim_xto 0 frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$ using definition of a limit

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I need to either compute $$lim_xto 0 dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$ using definition of a limit or prove it doesn't exist.



My attempt:



Given $epsilon > 0$, we wish to find $N$ such that $forall x geq N$,



$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| < epsilon.$$



We have



$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| = left|dfracx^2 + xx^2 + 1right| leq dfracx^2 + xx = x + 1 < epsilon. $$



Thus, we can choose $N geq epsilon - 1$ and then whenever $x > N$, we have $left|f(x)right| < epsilon implies lim_xto 0 f(x) = 0$







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  • This is correct.
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    Aug 8 at 18:32






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    Alternatively, using L'Hopital, we arrive at $$lim_xto0frac-1/x^2-2/x^3=lim_xto0frac x2=0$$
    – TheSimpliFire
    Aug 8 at 18:33











  • okay. thank you.
    – Hat
    Aug 8 at 18:36










  • @Hat: If $x$ is approaching $0$, why do you want $x > N$?
    – quasi
    Aug 8 at 18:37











  • doesn't that follow from the definition of a limit ?
    – Hat
    Aug 8 at 18:42














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I need to either compute $$lim_xto 0 dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$ using definition of a limit or prove it doesn't exist.



My attempt:



Given $epsilon > 0$, we wish to find $N$ such that $forall x geq N$,



$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| < epsilon.$$



We have



$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| = left|dfracx^2 + xx^2 + 1right| leq dfracx^2 + xx = x + 1 < epsilon. $$



Thus, we can choose $N geq epsilon - 1$ and then whenever $x > N$, we have $left|f(x)right| < epsilon implies lim_xto 0 f(x) = 0$







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  • This is correct.
    – TheSimpliFire
    Aug 8 at 18:32






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    Alternatively, using L'Hopital, we arrive at $$lim_xto0frac-1/x^2-2/x^3=lim_xto0frac x2=0$$
    – TheSimpliFire
    Aug 8 at 18:33











  • okay. thank you.
    – Hat
    Aug 8 at 18:36










  • @Hat: If $x$ is approaching $0$, why do you want $x > N$?
    – quasi
    Aug 8 at 18:37











  • doesn't that follow from the definition of a limit ?
    – Hat
    Aug 8 at 18:42












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I need to either compute $$lim_xto 0 dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$ using definition of a limit or prove it doesn't exist.



My attempt:



Given $epsilon > 0$, we wish to find $N$ such that $forall x geq N$,



$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| < epsilon.$$



We have



$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| = left|dfracx^2 + xx^2 + 1right| leq dfracx^2 + xx = x + 1 < epsilon. $$



Thus, we can choose $N geq epsilon - 1$ and then whenever $x > N$, we have $left|f(x)right| < epsilon implies lim_xto 0 f(x) = 0$







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I need to either compute $$lim_xto 0 dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$ using definition of a limit or prove it doesn't exist.



My attempt:



Given $epsilon > 0$, we wish to find $N$ such that $forall x geq N$,



$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| < epsilon.$$



We have



$$left|dfrac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2 - 0right| = left|dfracx^2 + xx^2 + 1right| leq dfracx^2 + xx = x + 1 < epsilon. $$



Thus, we can choose $N geq epsilon - 1$ and then whenever $x > N$, we have $left|f(x)right| < epsilon implies lim_xto 0 f(x) = 0$









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  • This is correct.
    – TheSimpliFire
    Aug 8 at 18:32






  • 1




    Alternatively, using L'Hopital, we arrive at $$lim_xto0frac-1/x^2-2/x^3=lim_xto0frac x2=0$$
    – TheSimpliFire
    Aug 8 at 18:33











  • okay. thank you.
    – Hat
    Aug 8 at 18:36










  • @Hat: If $x$ is approaching $0$, why do you want $x > N$?
    – quasi
    Aug 8 at 18:37











  • doesn't that follow from the definition of a limit ?
    – Hat
    Aug 8 at 18:42
















  • This is correct.
    – TheSimpliFire
    Aug 8 at 18:32






  • 1




    Alternatively, using L'Hopital, we arrive at $$lim_xto0frac-1/x^2-2/x^3=lim_xto0frac x2=0$$
    – TheSimpliFire
    Aug 8 at 18:33











  • okay. thank you.
    – Hat
    Aug 8 at 18:36










  • @Hat: If $x$ is approaching $0$, why do you want $x > N$?
    – quasi
    Aug 8 at 18:37











  • doesn't that follow from the definition of a limit ?
    – Hat
    Aug 8 at 18:42















This is correct.
– TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:32




This is correct.
– TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:32




1




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Alternatively, using L'Hopital, we arrive at $$lim_xto0frac-1/x^2-2/x^3=lim_xto0frac x2=0$$
– TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:33





Alternatively, using L'Hopital, we arrive at $$lim_xto0frac-1/x^2-2/x^3=lim_xto0frac x2=0$$
– TheSimpliFire
Aug 8 at 18:33













okay. thank you.
– Hat
Aug 8 at 18:36




okay. thank you.
– Hat
Aug 8 at 18:36












@Hat: If $x$ is approaching $0$, why do you want $x > N$?
– quasi
Aug 8 at 18:37





@Hat: If $x$ is approaching $0$, why do you want $x > N$?
– quasi
Aug 8 at 18:37













doesn't that follow from the definition of a limit ?
– Hat
Aug 8 at 18:42




doesn't that follow from the definition of a limit ?
– Hat
Aug 8 at 18:42










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Let $f:mathbbRsetminus0to mathbbR$ be defined by
$$f(x)=frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$



Claim:$;lim_xto 0f(x) = 0$.



Let $epsilon > 0$, and let $delta=minbigl(1,largefracepsilon2bigr)$.



Suppose $|x| < delta$, $xne 0$. We want to show that $|f(x)| < epsilon$.



Since $|x| < 1$, it follows that $|x+1| < 2$, hence
beginalign*
|f(x)|
&=left|frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2right|\[4pt]
&=left|fracx^2+xx^2 + 1right|\[4pt]
&=fracleftleft\[4pt]
& < left|x^2+xright|\[4pt]
&=left|x(x+1)right|\[4pt]
&=|x||x+1|\[4pt]
&< 2left|xright|\[4pt]
& < 2delta\[4pt]
&< epsilon\[4pt]
endalign*
as was to be shown.






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    You seem to be mixing two different $epsilon$-$delta$ definitions. Here they are:



    1. Let $ x_n _n in mathbbN$ be a sequence in $mathbbR$. We say that $x_n$ converges to $x$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $N in mathbbN$ such that $|x_n - x| < epsilon$ for all $n geq N$.

    2. Let $f : mathbbR to mathbbR$ and $c in mathbbR$. We say that $f$ has limit $L$ at $c$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $delta > 0$ such that $|f(x) - L| < epsilon$ whenever $0 < |x-c| < delta$.

    You need to be using the second definition, but somehow there is an $N$ in your proof, and you are making a statement for all $x geq N$, which doesn't make sense.




    However, the guess of $L = 0$ is accurate, and we have
    $$
    left| frac1+1/x1+1/x^2 - 0 right| = left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right|.
    $$
    Therefore, if $0 < |x| < delta$ for small enough delta (say, $0 < delta < 1$), then
    $$
    left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right| = |x|fracx+1x^2 + 1 < delta(delta + 1),
    $$
    where the last inequality holds because $inf < delta = 0$, and it is not attained inside the domain. Thus, given $epsilon > 0$ if we choose $delta > 0$ such that $delta < 1$ and $delta(delta + 1) < epsilon$ then we are done. The unique positive root of $y^2 + y - epsilon = 0$ is
    $$
    frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon2.
    $$
    Let $epsilon_1 = min epsilon, 1 $, and choose
    $$
    delta = frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon_12.
    $$
    Then, this choice of $delta$ satisfies our required criteria.






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      Let $f:mathbbRsetminus0to mathbbR$ be defined by
      $$f(x)=frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$



      Claim:$;lim_xto 0f(x) = 0$.



      Let $epsilon > 0$, and let $delta=minbigl(1,largefracepsilon2bigr)$.



      Suppose $|x| < delta$, $xne 0$. We want to show that $|f(x)| < epsilon$.



      Since $|x| < 1$, it follows that $|x+1| < 2$, hence
      beginalign*
      |f(x)|
      &=left|frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2right|\[4pt]
      &=left|fracx^2+xx^2 + 1right|\[4pt]
      &=fracleftleft\[4pt]
      & < left|x^2+xright|\[4pt]
      &=left|x(x+1)right|\[4pt]
      &=|x||x+1|\[4pt]
      &< 2left|xright|\[4pt]
      & < 2delta\[4pt]
      &< epsilon\[4pt]
      endalign*
      as was to be shown.






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        Let $f:mathbbRsetminus0to mathbbR$ be defined by
        $$f(x)=frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$



        Claim:$;lim_xto 0f(x) = 0$.



        Let $epsilon > 0$, and let $delta=minbigl(1,largefracepsilon2bigr)$.



        Suppose $|x| < delta$, $xne 0$. We want to show that $|f(x)| < epsilon$.



        Since $|x| < 1$, it follows that $|x+1| < 2$, hence
        beginalign*
        |f(x)|
        &=left|frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2right|\[4pt]
        &=left|fracx^2+xx^2 + 1right|\[4pt]
        &=fracleftleft\[4pt]
        & < left|x^2+xright|\[4pt]
        &=left|x(x+1)right|\[4pt]
        &=|x||x+1|\[4pt]
        &< 2left|xright|\[4pt]
        & < 2delta\[4pt]
        &< epsilon\[4pt]
        endalign*
        as was to be shown.






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          Let $f:mathbbRsetminus0to mathbbR$ be defined by
          $$f(x)=frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$



          Claim:$;lim_xto 0f(x) = 0$.



          Let $epsilon > 0$, and let $delta=minbigl(1,largefracepsilon2bigr)$.



          Suppose $|x| < delta$, $xne 0$. We want to show that $|f(x)| < epsilon$.



          Since $|x| < 1$, it follows that $|x+1| < 2$, hence
          beginalign*
          |f(x)|
          &=left|frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2right|\[4pt]
          &=left|fracx^2+xx^2 + 1right|\[4pt]
          &=fracleftleft\[4pt]
          & < left|x^2+xright|\[4pt]
          &=left|x(x+1)right|\[4pt]
          &=|x||x+1|\[4pt]
          &< 2left|xright|\[4pt]
          & < 2delta\[4pt]
          &< epsilon\[4pt]
          endalign*
          as was to be shown.






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          Let $f:mathbbRsetminus0to mathbbR$ be defined by
          $$f(x)=frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2$$



          Claim:$;lim_xto 0f(x) = 0$.



          Let $epsilon > 0$, and let $delta=minbigl(1,largefracepsilon2bigr)$.



          Suppose $|x| < delta$, $xne 0$. We want to show that $|f(x)| < epsilon$.



          Since $|x| < 1$, it follows that $|x+1| < 2$, hence
          beginalign*
          |f(x)|
          &=left|frac1 + 1/x1 + 1/x^2right|\[4pt]
          &=left|fracx^2+xx^2 + 1right|\[4pt]
          &=fracleftleft\[4pt]
          & < left|x^2+xright|\[4pt]
          &=left|x(x+1)right|\[4pt]
          &=|x||x+1|\[4pt]
          &< 2left|xright|\[4pt]
          & < 2delta\[4pt]
          &< epsilon\[4pt]
          endalign*
          as was to be shown.







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              You seem to be mixing two different $epsilon$-$delta$ definitions. Here they are:



              1. Let $ x_n _n in mathbbN$ be a sequence in $mathbbR$. We say that $x_n$ converges to $x$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $N in mathbbN$ such that $|x_n - x| < epsilon$ for all $n geq N$.

              2. Let $f : mathbbR to mathbbR$ and $c in mathbbR$. We say that $f$ has limit $L$ at $c$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $delta > 0$ such that $|f(x) - L| < epsilon$ whenever $0 < |x-c| < delta$.

              You need to be using the second definition, but somehow there is an $N$ in your proof, and you are making a statement for all $x geq N$, which doesn't make sense.




              However, the guess of $L = 0$ is accurate, and we have
              $$
              left| frac1+1/x1+1/x^2 - 0 right| = left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right|.
              $$
              Therefore, if $0 < |x| < delta$ for small enough delta (say, $0 < delta < 1$), then
              $$
              left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right| = |x|fracx+1x^2 + 1 < delta(delta + 1),
              $$
              where the last inequality holds because $inf < delta = 0$, and it is not attained inside the domain. Thus, given $epsilon > 0$ if we choose $delta > 0$ such that $delta < 1$ and $delta(delta + 1) < epsilon$ then we are done. The unique positive root of $y^2 + y - epsilon = 0$ is
              $$
              frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon2.
              $$
              Let $epsilon_1 = min epsilon, 1 $, and choose
              $$
              delta = frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon_12.
              $$
              Then, this choice of $delta$ satisfies our required criteria.






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                You seem to be mixing two different $epsilon$-$delta$ definitions. Here they are:



                1. Let $ x_n _n in mathbbN$ be a sequence in $mathbbR$. We say that $x_n$ converges to $x$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $N in mathbbN$ such that $|x_n - x| < epsilon$ for all $n geq N$.

                2. Let $f : mathbbR to mathbbR$ and $c in mathbbR$. We say that $f$ has limit $L$ at $c$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $delta > 0$ such that $|f(x) - L| < epsilon$ whenever $0 < |x-c| < delta$.

                You need to be using the second definition, but somehow there is an $N$ in your proof, and you are making a statement for all $x geq N$, which doesn't make sense.




                However, the guess of $L = 0$ is accurate, and we have
                $$
                left| frac1+1/x1+1/x^2 - 0 right| = left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right|.
                $$
                Therefore, if $0 < |x| < delta$ for small enough delta (say, $0 < delta < 1$), then
                $$
                left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right| = |x|fracx+1x^2 + 1 < delta(delta + 1),
                $$
                where the last inequality holds because $inf < delta = 0$, and it is not attained inside the domain. Thus, given $epsilon > 0$ if we choose $delta > 0$ such that $delta < 1$ and $delta(delta + 1) < epsilon$ then we are done. The unique positive root of $y^2 + y - epsilon = 0$ is
                $$
                frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon2.
                $$
                Let $epsilon_1 = min epsilon, 1 $, and choose
                $$
                delta = frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon_12.
                $$
                Then, this choice of $delta$ satisfies our required criteria.






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                  You seem to be mixing two different $epsilon$-$delta$ definitions. Here they are:



                  1. Let $ x_n _n in mathbbN$ be a sequence in $mathbbR$. We say that $x_n$ converges to $x$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $N in mathbbN$ such that $|x_n - x| < epsilon$ for all $n geq N$.

                  2. Let $f : mathbbR to mathbbR$ and $c in mathbbR$. We say that $f$ has limit $L$ at $c$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $delta > 0$ such that $|f(x) - L| < epsilon$ whenever $0 < |x-c| < delta$.

                  You need to be using the second definition, but somehow there is an $N$ in your proof, and you are making a statement for all $x geq N$, which doesn't make sense.




                  However, the guess of $L = 0$ is accurate, and we have
                  $$
                  left| frac1+1/x1+1/x^2 - 0 right| = left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right|.
                  $$
                  Therefore, if $0 < |x| < delta$ for small enough delta (say, $0 < delta < 1$), then
                  $$
                  left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right| = |x|fracx+1x^2 + 1 < delta(delta + 1),
                  $$
                  where the last inequality holds because $inf < delta = 0$, and it is not attained inside the domain. Thus, given $epsilon > 0$ if we choose $delta > 0$ such that $delta < 1$ and $delta(delta + 1) < epsilon$ then we are done. The unique positive root of $y^2 + y - epsilon = 0$ is
                  $$
                  frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon2.
                  $$
                  Let $epsilon_1 = min epsilon, 1 $, and choose
                  $$
                  delta = frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon_12.
                  $$
                  Then, this choice of $delta$ satisfies our required criteria.






                  share|cite|improve this answer












                  You seem to be mixing two different $epsilon$-$delta$ definitions. Here they are:



                  1. Let $ x_n _n in mathbbN$ be a sequence in $mathbbR$. We say that $x_n$ converges to $x$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $N in mathbbN$ such that $|x_n - x| < epsilon$ for all $n geq N$.

                  2. Let $f : mathbbR to mathbbR$ and $c in mathbbR$. We say that $f$ has limit $L$ at $c$ if for every $epsilon > 0$ there exists $delta > 0$ such that $|f(x) - L| < epsilon$ whenever $0 < |x-c| < delta$.

                  You need to be using the second definition, but somehow there is an $N$ in your proof, and you are making a statement for all $x geq N$, which doesn't make sense.




                  However, the guess of $L = 0$ is accurate, and we have
                  $$
                  left| frac1+1/x1+1/x^2 - 0 right| = left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right|.
                  $$
                  Therefore, if $0 < |x| < delta$ for small enough delta (say, $0 < delta < 1$), then
                  $$
                  left| fracx^2 + xx^2 + 1 right| = |x|fracx+1x^2 + 1 < delta(delta + 1),
                  $$
                  where the last inequality holds because $inf < delta = 0$, and it is not attained inside the domain. Thus, given $epsilon > 0$ if we choose $delta > 0$ such that $delta < 1$ and $delta(delta + 1) < epsilon$ then we are done. The unique positive root of $y^2 + y - epsilon = 0$ is
                  $$
                  frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon2.
                  $$
                  Let $epsilon_1 = min epsilon, 1 $, and choose
                  $$
                  delta = frac-1 + sqrt1 + 4epsilon_12.
                  $$
                  Then, this choice of $delta$ satisfies our required criteria.







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