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For what values âÂÂâÂÂof "$a$" will we have the $dim(textim (M))$ of the matrix smaller than $3$?
$$beginalign
M=
beginpmatrix
a & 2 & 3 \
a & a & 4 \
a & a & a \
endpmatrix
endalign
$$
linear-algebra
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For what values âÂÂâÂÂof "$a$" will we have the $dim(textim (M))$ of the matrix smaller than $3$?
$$beginalign
M=
beginpmatrix
a & 2 & 3 \
a & a & 4 \
a & a & a \
endpmatrix
endalign
$$
linear-algebra
closed as off-topic by Isaac Browne, Jendrik Stelzner, Adrian Keister, Xander Henderson, Key Flex Aug 9 at 2:15
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- "This question is missing context or other details: Please improve the question by providing additional context, which ideally includes your thoughts on the problem and any attempts you have made to solve it. This information helps others identify where you have difficulties and helps them write answers appropriate to your experience level." â Isaac Browne, Jendrik Stelzner, Adrian Keister, Xander Henderson, Key Flex
Your notation is unnecessarily obscure. Consider using the helping tools of this site to look for a tutorial of mathjax.
â Saucy O'Path
Aug 8 at 22:04
The mathjax reference page should help you format the matrix correctly.
â Mason
Aug 8 at 22:13
@Allan Oliveira: what did you try to solve this question?
â paf
Aug 8 at 22:30
I tried. Can I try solve transposing the matrix and using Gaussian elimination?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:39
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For what values âÂÂâÂÂof "$a$" will we have the $dim(textim (M))$ of the matrix smaller than $3$?
$$beginalign
M=
beginpmatrix
a & 2 & 3 \
a & a & 4 \
a & a & a \
endpmatrix
endalign
$$
linear-algebra
For what values âÂÂâÂÂof "$a$" will we have the $dim(textim (M))$ of the matrix smaller than $3$?
$$beginalign
M=
beginpmatrix
a & 2 & 3 \
a & a & 4 \
a & a & a \
endpmatrix
endalign
$$
linear-algebra
edited Aug 8 at 23:00
cansomeonehelpmeout
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asked Aug 8 at 22:01
Allan Oliveira
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closed as off-topic by Isaac Browne, Jendrik Stelzner, Adrian Keister, Xander Henderson, Key Flex Aug 9 at 2:15
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closed as off-topic by Isaac Browne, Jendrik Stelzner, Adrian Keister, Xander Henderson, Key Flex Aug 9 at 2:15
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- "This question is missing context or other details: Please improve the question by providing additional context, which ideally includes your thoughts on the problem and any attempts you have made to solve it. This information helps others identify where you have difficulties and helps them write answers appropriate to your experience level." â Isaac Browne, Jendrik Stelzner, Adrian Keister, Xander Henderson, Key Flex
Your notation is unnecessarily obscure. Consider using the helping tools of this site to look for a tutorial of mathjax.
â Saucy O'Path
Aug 8 at 22:04
The mathjax reference page should help you format the matrix correctly.
â Mason
Aug 8 at 22:13
@Allan Oliveira: what did you try to solve this question?
â paf
Aug 8 at 22:30
I tried. Can I try solve transposing the matrix and using Gaussian elimination?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:39
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Your notation is unnecessarily obscure. Consider using the helping tools of this site to look for a tutorial of mathjax.
â Saucy O'Path
Aug 8 at 22:04
The mathjax reference page should help you format the matrix correctly.
â Mason
Aug 8 at 22:13
@Allan Oliveira: what did you try to solve this question?
â paf
Aug 8 at 22:30
I tried. Can I try solve transposing the matrix and using Gaussian elimination?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:39
Your notation is unnecessarily obscure. Consider using the helping tools of this site to look for a tutorial of mathjax.
â Saucy O'Path
Aug 8 at 22:04
Your notation is unnecessarily obscure. Consider using the helping tools of this site to look for a tutorial of mathjax.
â Saucy O'Path
Aug 8 at 22:04
The mathjax reference page should help you format the matrix correctly.
â Mason
Aug 8 at 22:13
The mathjax reference page should help you format the matrix correctly.
â Mason
Aug 8 at 22:13
@Allan Oliveira: what did you try to solve this question?
â paf
Aug 8 at 22:30
@Allan Oliveira: what did you try to solve this question?
â paf
Aug 8 at 22:30
I tried. Can I try solve transposing the matrix and using Gaussian elimination?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:39
I tried. Can I try solve transposing the matrix and using Gaussian elimination?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:39
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Hint:
For $$M=beginpmatrixa&2&3\a&a&4\a&a&aendpmatrix$$ to give $dim(textim(M))=3$, you need $$M:Bbb R^3rightarrow Bbb R^3$$ to be an isomorphism. If this is not the case, then the dimension of the image is less than 3.
@AllanOliveira With $a=0$ you get $$beginpmatrix0&2&3\0&0&4\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix2\0\0endpmatrix+zbeginpmatrix3\4\0endpmatrix$$ surely this dimension is $2$ ($<3$).
Since OP already accepted the answer, I'll expand it. The map $M:Bbb R^3rightarrowBbb R^3$ is an isomorphism precisely when the matrix $M$ is invertible, this happens if and only if $det(M)neq 0$, so we need to find the values of $a$ for which $det(M)=0$. Computing the determinant we get $$det(M)=a(a^2-6a+8)=a(a-2)(a-4)$$ Therefore, $dim(textim(M))<3$ when $a=0,2,4$.
Sorry. I wrote the wrong matrix.The second line is (a, a, 4) and not (a, a, a)
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:50
But for what values âÂÂâÂÂof "a" is the dimension of image is less than 3?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:02
@AllanOliveira if you find the values of $a$ that make the dimension $3$, then all other values of $a$ will make the dimension less than $3$.
â cansomeonehelpmeout
Aug 8 at 23:04
But if a=0 the dimension of image is not less than 3?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:07
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If a square matrix is rank-deficient, its rows/columns are linearly dependent, which in turn means that its determinant vanishes. Compute the determinant of your matrix and set it to zero to get a condition on $a$. There are some obvious elementary row operations that you can perform on the matrix to make it upper-triangular, which will make the computation of its determinant very simple.
Many thanks your response really helped me.
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 9 at 0:14
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2 Answers
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Hint:
For $$M=beginpmatrixa&2&3\a&a&4\a&a&aendpmatrix$$ to give $dim(textim(M))=3$, you need $$M:Bbb R^3rightarrow Bbb R^3$$ to be an isomorphism. If this is not the case, then the dimension of the image is less than 3.
@AllanOliveira With $a=0$ you get $$beginpmatrix0&2&3\0&0&4\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix2\0\0endpmatrix+zbeginpmatrix3\4\0endpmatrix$$ surely this dimension is $2$ ($<3$).
Since OP already accepted the answer, I'll expand it. The map $M:Bbb R^3rightarrowBbb R^3$ is an isomorphism precisely when the matrix $M$ is invertible, this happens if and only if $det(M)neq 0$, so we need to find the values of $a$ for which $det(M)=0$. Computing the determinant we get $$det(M)=a(a^2-6a+8)=a(a-2)(a-4)$$ Therefore, $dim(textim(M))<3$ when $a=0,2,4$.
Sorry. I wrote the wrong matrix.The second line is (a, a, 4) and not (a, a, a)
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:50
But for what values âÂÂâÂÂof "a" is the dimension of image is less than 3?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:02
@AllanOliveira if you find the values of $a$ that make the dimension $3$, then all other values of $a$ will make the dimension less than $3$.
â cansomeonehelpmeout
Aug 8 at 23:04
But if a=0 the dimension of image is not less than 3?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:07
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Hint:
For $$M=beginpmatrixa&2&3\a&a&4\a&a&aendpmatrix$$ to give $dim(textim(M))=3$, you need $$M:Bbb R^3rightarrow Bbb R^3$$ to be an isomorphism. If this is not the case, then the dimension of the image is less than 3.
@AllanOliveira With $a=0$ you get $$beginpmatrix0&2&3\0&0&4\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix2\0\0endpmatrix+zbeginpmatrix3\4\0endpmatrix$$ surely this dimension is $2$ ($<3$).
Since OP already accepted the answer, I'll expand it. The map $M:Bbb R^3rightarrowBbb R^3$ is an isomorphism precisely when the matrix $M$ is invertible, this happens if and only if $det(M)neq 0$, so we need to find the values of $a$ for which $det(M)=0$. Computing the determinant we get $$det(M)=a(a^2-6a+8)=a(a-2)(a-4)$$ Therefore, $dim(textim(M))<3$ when $a=0,2,4$.
Sorry. I wrote the wrong matrix.The second line is (a, a, 4) and not (a, a, a)
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:50
But for what values âÂÂâÂÂof "a" is the dimension of image is less than 3?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:02
@AllanOliveira if you find the values of $a$ that make the dimension $3$, then all other values of $a$ will make the dimension less than $3$.
â cansomeonehelpmeout
Aug 8 at 23:04
But if a=0 the dimension of image is not less than 3?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:07
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Hint:
For $$M=beginpmatrixa&2&3\a&a&4\a&a&aendpmatrix$$ to give $dim(textim(M))=3$, you need $$M:Bbb R^3rightarrow Bbb R^3$$ to be an isomorphism. If this is not the case, then the dimension of the image is less than 3.
@AllanOliveira With $a=0$ you get $$beginpmatrix0&2&3\0&0&4\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix2\0\0endpmatrix+zbeginpmatrix3\4\0endpmatrix$$ surely this dimension is $2$ ($<3$).
Since OP already accepted the answer, I'll expand it. The map $M:Bbb R^3rightarrowBbb R^3$ is an isomorphism precisely when the matrix $M$ is invertible, this happens if and only if $det(M)neq 0$, so we need to find the values of $a$ for which $det(M)=0$. Computing the determinant we get $$det(M)=a(a^2-6a+8)=a(a-2)(a-4)$$ Therefore, $dim(textim(M))<3$ when $a=0,2,4$.
Hint:
For $$M=beginpmatrixa&2&3\a&a&4\a&a&aendpmatrix$$ to give $dim(textim(M))=3$, you need $$M:Bbb R^3rightarrow Bbb R^3$$ to be an isomorphism. If this is not the case, then the dimension of the image is less than 3.
@AllanOliveira With $a=0$ you get $$beginpmatrix0&2&3\0&0&4\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix2\0\0endpmatrix+zbeginpmatrix3\4\0endpmatrix$$ surely this dimension is $2$ ($<3$).
Since OP already accepted the answer, I'll expand it. The map $M:Bbb R^3rightarrowBbb R^3$ is an isomorphism precisely when the matrix $M$ is invertible, this happens if and only if $det(M)neq 0$, so we need to find the values of $a$ for which $det(M)=0$. Computing the determinant we get $$det(M)=a(a^2-6a+8)=a(a-2)(a-4)$$ Therefore, $dim(textim(M))<3$ when $a=0,2,4$.
edited Aug 9 at 0:31
answered Aug 8 at 22:42
cansomeonehelpmeout
4,8643830
4,8643830
Sorry. I wrote the wrong matrix.The second line is (a, a, 4) and not (a, a, a)
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:50
But for what values âÂÂâÂÂof "a" is the dimension of image is less than 3?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:02
@AllanOliveira if you find the values of $a$ that make the dimension $3$, then all other values of $a$ will make the dimension less than $3$.
â cansomeonehelpmeout
Aug 8 at 23:04
But if a=0 the dimension of image is not less than 3?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:07
add a comment |Â
Sorry. I wrote the wrong matrix.The second line is (a, a, 4) and not (a, a, a)
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:50
But for what values âÂÂâÂÂof "a" is the dimension of image is less than 3?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:02
@AllanOliveira if you find the values of $a$ that make the dimension $3$, then all other values of $a$ will make the dimension less than $3$.
â cansomeonehelpmeout
Aug 8 at 23:04
But if a=0 the dimension of image is not less than 3?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:07
Sorry. I wrote the wrong matrix.The second line is (a, a, 4) and not (a, a, a)
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:50
Sorry. I wrote the wrong matrix.The second line is (a, a, 4) and not (a, a, a)
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:50
But for what values âÂÂâÂÂof "a" is the dimension of image is less than 3?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:02
But for what values âÂÂâÂÂof "a" is the dimension of image is less than 3?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:02
@AllanOliveira if you find the values of $a$ that make the dimension $3$, then all other values of $a$ will make the dimension less than $3$.
â cansomeonehelpmeout
Aug 8 at 23:04
@AllanOliveira if you find the values of $a$ that make the dimension $3$, then all other values of $a$ will make the dimension less than $3$.
â cansomeonehelpmeout
Aug 8 at 23:04
But if a=0 the dimension of image is not less than 3?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:07
But if a=0 the dimension of image is not less than 3?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:07
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
If a square matrix is rank-deficient, its rows/columns are linearly dependent, which in turn means that its determinant vanishes. Compute the determinant of your matrix and set it to zero to get a condition on $a$. There are some obvious elementary row operations that you can perform on the matrix to make it upper-triangular, which will make the computation of its determinant very simple.
Many thanks your response really helped me.
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 9 at 0:14
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
If a square matrix is rank-deficient, its rows/columns are linearly dependent, which in turn means that its determinant vanishes. Compute the determinant of your matrix and set it to zero to get a condition on $a$. There are some obvious elementary row operations that you can perform on the matrix to make it upper-triangular, which will make the computation of its determinant very simple.
Many thanks your response really helped me.
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 9 at 0:14
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
If a square matrix is rank-deficient, its rows/columns are linearly dependent, which in turn means that its determinant vanishes. Compute the determinant of your matrix and set it to zero to get a condition on $a$. There are some obvious elementary row operations that you can perform on the matrix to make it upper-triangular, which will make the computation of its determinant very simple.
If a square matrix is rank-deficient, its rows/columns are linearly dependent, which in turn means that its determinant vanishes. Compute the determinant of your matrix and set it to zero to get a condition on $a$. There are some obvious elementary row operations that you can perform on the matrix to make it upper-triangular, which will make the computation of its determinant very simple.
answered Aug 8 at 23:47
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Many thanks your response really helped me.
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 9 at 0:14
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Many thanks your response really helped me.
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 9 at 0:14
Many thanks your response really helped me.
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 9 at 0:14
Many thanks your response really helped me.
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 9 at 0:14
add a comment |Â
Your notation is unnecessarily obscure. Consider using the helping tools of this site to look for a tutorial of mathjax.
â Saucy O'Path
Aug 8 at 22:04
The mathjax reference page should help you format the matrix correctly.
â Mason
Aug 8 at 22:13
@Allan Oliveira: what did you try to solve this question?
â paf
Aug 8 at 22:30
I tried. Can I try solve transposing the matrix and using Gaussian elimination?
â Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:39