For what values ​of “a” will we have the dim(im (M)) of the matrix smaller than 3? [closed]

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For what values ​​of "$a$" will we have the $dim(textim (M))$ of the matrix smaller than $3$?



$$beginalign
M=
beginpmatrix
a & 2 & 3 \
a & a & 4 \
a & a & a \
endpmatrix
endalign
$$







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  • Your notation is unnecessarily obscure. Consider using the helping tools of this site to look for a tutorial of mathjax.
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  • The mathjax reference page should help you format the matrix correctly.
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    Aug 8 at 22:13











  • @Allan Oliveira: what did you try to solve this question?
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    Aug 8 at 22:30










  • I tried. Can I try solve transposing the matrix and using Gaussian elimination?
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 22:39














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For what values ​​of "$a$" will we have the $dim(textim (M))$ of the matrix smaller than $3$?



$$beginalign
M=
beginpmatrix
a & 2 & 3 \
a & a & 4 \
a & a & a \
endpmatrix
endalign
$$







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  • Your notation is unnecessarily obscure. Consider using the helping tools of this site to look for a tutorial of mathjax.
    – Saucy O'Path
    Aug 8 at 22:04











  • The mathjax reference page should help you format the matrix correctly.
    – Mason
    Aug 8 at 22:13











  • @Allan Oliveira: what did you try to solve this question?
    – paf
    Aug 8 at 22:30










  • I tried. Can I try solve transposing the matrix and using Gaussian elimination?
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 22:39












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For what values ​​of "$a$" will we have the $dim(textim (M))$ of the matrix smaller than $3$?



$$beginalign
M=
beginpmatrix
a & 2 & 3 \
a & a & 4 \
a & a & a \
endpmatrix
endalign
$$







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For what values ​​of "$a$" will we have the $dim(textim (M))$ of the matrix smaller than $3$?



$$beginalign
M=
beginpmatrix
a & 2 & 3 \
a & a & 4 \
a & a & a \
endpmatrix
endalign
$$









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  • Your notation is unnecessarily obscure. Consider using the helping tools of this site to look for a tutorial of mathjax.
    – Saucy O'Path
    Aug 8 at 22:04











  • The mathjax reference page should help you format the matrix correctly.
    – Mason
    Aug 8 at 22:13











  • @Allan Oliveira: what did you try to solve this question?
    – paf
    Aug 8 at 22:30










  • I tried. Can I try solve transposing the matrix and using Gaussian elimination?
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 22:39
















  • Your notation is unnecessarily obscure. Consider using the helping tools of this site to look for a tutorial of mathjax.
    – Saucy O'Path
    Aug 8 at 22:04











  • The mathjax reference page should help you format the matrix correctly.
    – Mason
    Aug 8 at 22:13











  • @Allan Oliveira: what did you try to solve this question?
    – paf
    Aug 8 at 22:30










  • I tried. Can I try solve transposing the matrix and using Gaussian elimination?
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 22:39















Your notation is unnecessarily obscure. Consider using the helping tools of this site to look for a tutorial of mathjax.
– Saucy O'Path
Aug 8 at 22:04





Your notation is unnecessarily obscure. Consider using the helping tools of this site to look for a tutorial of mathjax.
– Saucy O'Path
Aug 8 at 22:04













The mathjax reference page should help you format the matrix correctly.
– Mason
Aug 8 at 22:13





The mathjax reference page should help you format the matrix correctly.
– Mason
Aug 8 at 22:13













@Allan Oliveira: what did you try to solve this question?
– paf
Aug 8 at 22:30




@Allan Oliveira: what did you try to solve this question?
– paf
Aug 8 at 22:30












I tried. Can I try solve transposing the matrix and using Gaussian elimination?
– Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:39




I tried. Can I try solve transposing the matrix and using Gaussian elimination?
– Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:39










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Hint:




For $$M=beginpmatrixa&2&3\a&a&4\a&a&aendpmatrix$$ to give $dim(textim(M))=3$, you need $$M:Bbb R^3rightarrow Bbb R^3$$ to be an isomorphism. If this is not the case, then the dimension of the image is less than 3.




@AllanOliveira With $a=0$ you get $$beginpmatrix0&2&3\0&0&4\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix2\0\0endpmatrix+zbeginpmatrix3\4\0endpmatrix$$ surely this dimension is $2$ ($<3$).




Since OP already accepted the answer, I'll expand it. The map $M:Bbb R^3rightarrowBbb R^3$ is an isomorphism precisely when the matrix $M$ is invertible, this happens if and only if $det(M)neq 0$, so we need to find the values of $a$ for which $det(M)=0$. Computing the determinant we get $$det(M)=a(a^2-6a+8)=a(a-2)(a-4)$$ Therefore, $dim(textim(M))<3$ when $a=0,2,4$.






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  • Sorry. I wrote the wrong matrix.The second line is (a, a, 4) and not (a, a, a)
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 22:50










  • But for what values ​​of "a" is the dimension of image is less than 3?
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 23:02










  • @AllanOliveira if you find the values of $a$ that make the dimension $3$, then all other values of $a$ will make the dimension less than $3$.
    – cansomeonehelpmeout
    Aug 8 at 23:04










  • But if a=0 the dimension of image is not less than 3?
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 23:07

















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If a square matrix is rank-deficient, its rows/columns are linearly dependent, which in turn means that its determinant vanishes. Compute the determinant of your matrix and set it to zero to get a condition on $a$. There are some obvious elementary row operations that you can perform on the matrix to make it upper-triangular, which will make the computation of its determinant very simple.






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  • Many thanks your response really helped me.
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 9 at 0:14

















2 Answers
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2 Answers
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active

oldest

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active

oldest

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active

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up vote
1
down vote



accepted










Hint:




For $$M=beginpmatrixa&2&3\a&a&4\a&a&aendpmatrix$$ to give $dim(textim(M))=3$, you need $$M:Bbb R^3rightarrow Bbb R^3$$ to be an isomorphism. If this is not the case, then the dimension of the image is less than 3.




@AllanOliveira With $a=0$ you get $$beginpmatrix0&2&3\0&0&4\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix2\0\0endpmatrix+zbeginpmatrix3\4\0endpmatrix$$ surely this dimension is $2$ ($<3$).




Since OP already accepted the answer, I'll expand it. The map $M:Bbb R^3rightarrowBbb R^3$ is an isomorphism precisely when the matrix $M$ is invertible, this happens if and only if $det(M)neq 0$, so we need to find the values of $a$ for which $det(M)=0$. Computing the determinant we get $$det(M)=a(a^2-6a+8)=a(a-2)(a-4)$$ Therefore, $dim(textim(M))<3$ when $a=0,2,4$.






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  • Sorry. I wrote the wrong matrix.The second line is (a, a, 4) and not (a, a, a)
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 22:50










  • But for what values ​​of "a" is the dimension of image is less than 3?
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 23:02










  • @AllanOliveira if you find the values of $a$ that make the dimension $3$, then all other values of $a$ will make the dimension less than $3$.
    – cansomeonehelpmeout
    Aug 8 at 23:04










  • But if a=0 the dimension of image is not less than 3?
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 23:07














up vote
1
down vote



accepted










Hint:




For $$M=beginpmatrixa&2&3\a&a&4\a&a&aendpmatrix$$ to give $dim(textim(M))=3$, you need $$M:Bbb R^3rightarrow Bbb R^3$$ to be an isomorphism. If this is not the case, then the dimension of the image is less than 3.




@AllanOliveira With $a=0$ you get $$beginpmatrix0&2&3\0&0&4\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix2\0\0endpmatrix+zbeginpmatrix3\4\0endpmatrix$$ surely this dimension is $2$ ($<3$).




Since OP already accepted the answer, I'll expand it. The map $M:Bbb R^3rightarrowBbb R^3$ is an isomorphism precisely when the matrix $M$ is invertible, this happens if and only if $det(M)neq 0$, so we need to find the values of $a$ for which $det(M)=0$. Computing the determinant we get $$det(M)=a(a^2-6a+8)=a(a-2)(a-4)$$ Therefore, $dim(textim(M))<3$ when $a=0,2,4$.






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  • Sorry. I wrote the wrong matrix.The second line is (a, a, 4) and not (a, a, a)
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 22:50










  • But for what values ​​of "a" is the dimension of image is less than 3?
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 23:02










  • @AllanOliveira if you find the values of $a$ that make the dimension $3$, then all other values of $a$ will make the dimension less than $3$.
    – cansomeonehelpmeout
    Aug 8 at 23:04










  • But if a=0 the dimension of image is not less than 3?
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 23:07












up vote
1
down vote



accepted







up vote
1
down vote



accepted






Hint:




For $$M=beginpmatrixa&2&3\a&a&4\a&a&aendpmatrix$$ to give $dim(textim(M))=3$, you need $$M:Bbb R^3rightarrow Bbb R^3$$ to be an isomorphism. If this is not the case, then the dimension of the image is less than 3.




@AllanOliveira With $a=0$ you get $$beginpmatrix0&2&3\0&0&4\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix2\0\0endpmatrix+zbeginpmatrix3\4\0endpmatrix$$ surely this dimension is $2$ ($<3$).




Since OP already accepted the answer, I'll expand it. The map $M:Bbb R^3rightarrowBbb R^3$ is an isomorphism precisely when the matrix $M$ is invertible, this happens if and only if $det(M)neq 0$, so we need to find the values of $a$ for which $det(M)=0$. Computing the determinant we get $$det(M)=a(a^2-6a+8)=a(a-2)(a-4)$$ Therefore, $dim(textim(M))<3$ when $a=0,2,4$.






share|cite|improve this answer














Hint:




For $$M=beginpmatrixa&2&3\a&a&4\a&a&aendpmatrix$$ to give $dim(textim(M))=3$, you need $$M:Bbb R^3rightarrow Bbb R^3$$ to be an isomorphism. If this is not the case, then the dimension of the image is less than 3.




@AllanOliveira With $a=0$ you get $$beginpmatrix0&2&3\0&0&4\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix2\0\0endpmatrix+zbeginpmatrix3\4\0endpmatrix$$ surely this dimension is $2$ ($<3$).




Since OP already accepted the answer, I'll expand it. The map $M:Bbb R^3rightarrowBbb R^3$ is an isomorphism precisely when the matrix $M$ is invertible, this happens if and only if $det(M)neq 0$, so we need to find the values of $a$ for which $det(M)=0$. Computing the determinant we get $$det(M)=a(a^2-6a+8)=a(a-2)(a-4)$$ Therefore, $dim(textim(M))<3$ when $a=0,2,4$.







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answered Aug 8 at 22:42









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  • Sorry. I wrote the wrong matrix.The second line is (a, a, 4) and not (a, a, a)
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 22:50










  • But for what values ​​of "a" is the dimension of image is less than 3?
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 23:02










  • @AllanOliveira if you find the values of $a$ that make the dimension $3$, then all other values of $a$ will make the dimension less than $3$.
    – cansomeonehelpmeout
    Aug 8 at 23:04










  • But if a=0 the dimension of image is not less than 3?
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 23:07
















  • Sorry. I wrote the wrong matrix.The second line is (a, a, 4) and not (a, a, a)
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 22:50










  • But for what values ​​of "a" is the dimension of image is less than 3?
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 23:02










  • @AllanOliveira if you find the values of $a$ that make the dimension $3$, then all other values of $a$ will make the dimension less than $3$.
    – cansomeonehelpmeout
    Aug 8 at 23:04










  • But if a=0 the dimension of image is not less than 3?
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 8 at 23:07















Sorry. I wrote the wrong matrix.The second line is (a, a, 4) and not (a, a, a)
– Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:50




Sorry. I wrote the wrong matrix.The second line is (a, a, 4) and not (a, a, a)
– Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 22:50












But for what values ​​of "a" is the dimension of image is less than 3?
– Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:02




But for what values ​​of "a" is the dimension of image is less than 3?
– Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:02












@AllanOliveira if you find the values of $a$ that make the dimension $3$, then all other values of $a$ will make the dimension less than $3$.
– cansomeonehelpmeout
Aug 8 at 23:04




@AllanOliveira if you find the values of $a$ that make the dimension $3$, then all other values of $a$ will make the dimension less than $3$.
– cansomeonehelpmeout
Aug 8 at 23:04












But if a=0 the dimension of image is not less than 3?
– Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:07




But if a=0 the dimension of image is not less than 3?
– Allan Oliveira
Aug 8 at 23:07










up vote
0
down vote













If a square matrix is rank-deficient, its rows/columns are linearly dependent, which in turn means that its determinant vanishes. Compute the determinant of your matrix and set it to zero to get a condition on $a$. There are some obvious elementary row operations that you can perform on the matrix to make it upper-triangular, which will make the computation of its determinant very simple.






share|cite|improve this answer




















  • Many thanks your response really helped me.
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 9 at 0:14














up vote
0
down vote













If a square matrix is rank-deficient, its rows/columns are linearly dependent, which in turn means that its determinant vanishes. Compute the determinant of your matrix and set it to zero to get a condition on $a$. There are some obvious elementary row operations that you can perform on the matrix to make it upper-triangular, which will make the computation of its determinant very simple.






share|cite|improve this answer




















  • Many thanks your response really helped me.
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 9 at 0:14












up vote
0
down vote










up vote
0
down vote









If a square matrix is rank-deficient, its rows/columns are linearly dependent, which in turn means that its determinant vanishes. Compute the determinant of your matrix and set it to zero to get a condition on $a$. There are some obvious elementary row operations that you can perform on the matrix to make it upper-triangular, which will make the computation of its determinant very simple.






share|cite|improve this answer












If a square matrix is rank-deficient, its rows/columns are linearly dependent, which in turn means that its determinant vanishes. Compute the determinant of your matrix and set it to zero to get a condition on $a$. There are some obvious elementary row operations that you can perform on the matrix to make it upper-triangular, which will make the computation of its determinant very simple.







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  • Many thanks your response really helped me.
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 9 at 0:14
















  • Many thanks your response really helped me.
    – Allan Oliveira
    Aug 9 at 0:14















Many thanks your response really helped me.
– Allan Oliveira
Aug 9 at 0:14




Many thanks your response really helped me.
– Allan Oliveira
Aug 9 at 0:14


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