Propositional logic and tautologies
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Taken from P. Suppes "Introduction to logic" pp16
Starting from the sentence "If $P$ tautologically implies $Q$, then.."
Question: Is it true that, at least within propositional logic, we are able to prove only tautologies or do I mis-understand something?
If yes, is propositional logic special in some way? Is the notion of tautology meaningful only in propositional logic?
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Taken from P. Suppes "Introduction to logic" pp16
Starting from the sentence "If $P$ tautologically implies $Q$, then.."
Question: Is it true that, at least within propositional logic, we are able to prove only tautologies or do I mis-understand something?
If yes, is propositional logic special in some way? Is the notion of tautology meaningful only in propositional logic?
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Taken from P. Suppes "Introduction to logic" pp16
Starting from the sentence "If $P$ tautologically implies $Q$, then.."
Question: Is it true that, at least within propositional logic, we are able to prove only tautologies or do I mis-understand something?
If yes, is propositional logic special in some way? Is the notion of tautology meaningful only in propositional logic?
logic propositional-calculus
Taken from P. Suppes "Introduction to logic" pp16
Starting from the sentence "If $P$ tautologically implies $Q$, then.."
Question: Is it true that, at least within propositional logic, we are able to prove only tautologies or do I mis-understand something?
If yes, is propositional logic special in some way? Is the notion of tautology meaningful only in propositional logic?
logic propositional-calculus
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- Suppose we are given the premiss '$P land Q$', then we can of course trivially derive '$Q$'. Further, the premiss $P land Q$' is said to tautologically entail the conclusion '$Q$' -- essentially because the corresponding conditional '$(P land Q) to Q$' is a tautology.
- But note, '$P land Q$' and '$Q$' themselves may not even true let alone be tautologies (perhaps '$P$' for example says 'Trump is a philosopher' and '$Q$' says 'Trump is a modest man'). That's fine. In propositional logic, we can prove a non-tautology, given one or more non-tautologies as premisses!
- However, if we are given no premisses to work with, if we have to rely on propositional logic reasoning alone, then yes, all we can prove in that case are tautologies.
- Is the notion of tautology meaningful only in propositional logic? Terminology varies. But I think mainstream usage is to reserve "tautology" primarily for sentences of the language of propositional logic that come out true on every line of the appropriate truth-table, and hence are provable from no premisses in an appropriate classical propositional logic.
I daresay your $Q$ is false ...
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It's not difficult to see that the following assertions are equivalent.
- The statement $mathcal B$ follows from the statements $mathcal A_1, mathcal A_2,ldots ,mathcal A_n$.
- The implication $mathcal A_1landldotslandmathcal A_nimplies mathcal B$ is a tautology.
Not as easy to suggest this might be the case, though, without any a priori intuition.
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2 Answers
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2 Answers
2
active
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active
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active
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3
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- Suppose we are given the premiss '$P land Q$', then we can of course trivially derive '$Q$'. Further, the premiss $P land Q$' is said to tautologically entail the conclusion '$Q$' -- essentially because the corresponding conditional '$(P land Q) to Q$' is a tautology.
- But note, '$P land Q$' and '$Q$' themselves may not even true let alone be tautologies (perhaps '$P$' for example says 'Trump is a philosopher' and '$Q$' says 'Trump is a modest man'). That's fine. In propositional logic, we can prove a non-tautology, given one or more non-tautologies as premisses!
- However, if we are given no premisses to work with, if we have to rely on propositional logic reasoning alone, then yes, all we can prove in that case are tautologies.
- Is the notion of tautology meaningful only in propositional logic? Terminology varies. But I think mainstream usage is to reserve "tautology" primarily for sentences of the language of propositional logic that come out true on every line of the appropriate truth-table, and hence are provable from no premisses in an appropriate classical propositional logic.
I daresay your $Q$ is false ...
â Bram28
Nov 29 '17 at 18:34
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3
down vote
accepted
- Suppose we are given the premiss '$P land Q$', then we can of course trivially derive '$Q$'. Further, the premiss $P land Q$' is said to tautologically entail the conclusion '$Q$' -- essentially because the corresponding conditional '$(P land Q) to Q$' is a tautology.
- But note, '$P land Q$' and '$Q$' themselves may not even true let alone be tautologies (perhaps '$P$' for example says 'Trump is a philosopher' and '$Q$' says 'Trump is a modest man'). That's fine. In propositional logic, we can prove a non-tautology, given one or more non-tautologies as premisses!
- However, if we are given no premisses to work with, if we have to rely on propositional logic reasoning alone, then yes, all we can prove in that case are tautologies.
- Is the notion of tautology meaningful only in propositional logic? Terminology varies. But I think mainstream usage is to reserve "tautology" primarily for sentences of the language of propositional logic that come out true on every line of the appropriate truth-table, and hence are provable from no premisses in an appropriate classical propositional logic.
I daresay your $Q$ is false ...
â Bram28
Nov 29 '17 at 18:34
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- Suppose we are given the premiss '$P land Q$', then we can of course trivially derive '$Q$'. Further, the premiss $P land Q$' is said to tautologically entail the conclusion '$Q$' -- essentially because the corresponding conditional '$(P land Q) to Q$' is a tautology.
- But note, '$P land Q$' and '$Q$' themselves may not even true let alone be tautologies (perhaps '$P$' for example says 'Trump is a philosopher' and '$Q$' says 'Trump is a modest man'). That's fine. In propositional logic, we can prove a non-tautology, given one or more non-tautologies as premisses!
- However, if we are given no premisses to work with, if we have to rely on propositional logic reasoning alone, then yes, all we can prove in that case are tautologies.
- Is the notion of tautology meaningful only in propositional logic? Terminology varies. But I think mainstream usage is to reserve "tautology" primarily for sentences of the language of propositional logic that come out true on every line of the appropriate truth-table, and hence are provable from no premisses in an appropriate classical propositional logic.
- Suppose we are given the premiss '$P land Q$', then we can of course trivially derive '$Q$'. Further, the premiss $P land Q$' is said to tautologically entail the conclusion '$Q$' -- essentially because the corresponding conditional '$(P land Q) to Q$' is a tautology.
- But note, '$P land Q$' and '$Q$' themselves may not even true let alone be tautologies (perhaps '$P$' for example says 'Trump is a philosopher' and '$Q$' says 'Trump is a modest man'). That's fine. In propositional logic, we can prove a non-tautology, given one or more non-tautologies as premisses!
- However, if we are given no premisses to work with, if we have to rely on propositional logic reasoning alone, then yes, all we can prove in that case are tautologies.
- Is the notion of tautology meaningful only in propositional logic? Terminology varies. But I think mainstream usage is to reserve "tautology" primarily for sentences of the language of propositional logic that come out true on every line of the appropriate truth-table, and hence are provable from no premisses in an appropriate classical propositional logic.
answered Nov 29 '17 at 17:06
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I daresay your $Q$ is false ...
â Bram28
Nov 29 '17 at 18:34
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I daresay your $Q$ is false ...
â Bram28
Nov 29 '17 at 18:34
I daresay your $Q$ is false ...
â Bram28
Nov 29 '17 at 18:34
I daresay your $Q$ is false ...
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It's not difficult to see that the following assertions are equivalent.
- The statement $mathcal B$ follows from the statements $mathcal A_1, mathcal A_2,ldots ,mathcal A_n$.
- The implication $mathcal A_1landldotslandmathcal A_nimplies mathcal B$ is a tautology.
Not as easy to suggest this might be the case, though, without any a priori intuition.
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It's not difficult to see that the following assertions are equivalent.
- The statement $mathcal B$ follows from the statements $mathcal A_1, mathcal A_2,ldots ,mathcal A_n$.
- The implication $mathcal A_1landldotslandmathcal A_nimplies mathcal B$ is a tautology.
Not as easy to suggest this might be the case, though, without any a priori intuition.
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It's not difficult to see that the following assertions are equivalent.
- The statement $mathcal B$ follows from the statements $mathcal A_1, mathcal A_2,ldots ,mathcal A_n$.
- The implication $mathcal A_1landldotslandmathcal A_nimplies mathcal B$ is a tautology.
Not as easy to suggest this might be the case, though, without any a priori intuition.
It's not difficult to see that the following assertions are equivalent.
- The statement $mathcal B$ follows from the statements $mathcal A_1, mathcal A_2,ldots ,mathcal A_n$.
- The implication $mathcal A_1landldotslandmathcal A_nimplies mathcal B$ is a tautology.
Not as easy to suggest this might be the case, though, without any a priori intuition.
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