Proof of $a^1/p+b^1/p>(a+b)^1/p$ if $a$, $b$ and $p>1$

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For any two positive numbers $a$, $b$ and $p>1$, $a^1/p+b^1/p>(a+b)^1/p$. I tried to prove this but I was unsuccessful. Also, how is this inequality called, couldn't find any information online.







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  • It should be $ge$ instead of $>$as the case $p=1$
    – Mira from Earth
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  • $2^2+3^2 lt 5^2$ if $a=2, b=3 ,p=0.5 $
    – DevashishKaushik
    Aug 17 at 7:27











  • @Mark A. Ruiz Maybe you omitted some restrictions on the values your variables are allowed to take ?
    – DevashishKaushik
    Aug 17 at 7:29











  • Also, have you tried using Binomial Theorem for the proof ?
    – DevashishKaushik
    Aug 17 at 7:32










  • I would recommend start by proving $frac12 left(a^1/p + b^1/pright) > left(fraca + b2right)^1/p$, using $f(x) = x^1/p$ being a concave, and something like Jensen's inequality.
    – DanielV
    Aug 17 at 7:55














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In a book, I saw the following:



For any two positive numbers $a$, $b$ and $p>1$, $a^1/p+b^1/p>(a+b)^1/p$. I tried to prove this but I was unsuccessful. Also, how is this inequality called, couldn't find any information online.







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  • It should be $ge$ instead of $>$as the case $p=1$
    – Mira from Earth
    Aug 17 at 7:27










  • $2^2+3^2 lt 5^2$ if $a=2, b=3 ,p=0.5 $
    – DevashishKaushik
    Aug 17 at 7:27











  • @Mark A. Ruiz Maybe you omitted some restrictions on the values your variables are allowed to take ?
    – DevashishKaushik
    Aug 17 at 7:29











  • Also, have you tried using Binomial Theorem for the proof ?
    – DevashishKaushik
    Aug 17 at 7:32










  • I would recommend start by proving $frac12 left(a^1/p + b^1/pright) > left(fraca + b2right)^1/p$, using $f(x) = x^1/p$ being a concave, and something like Jensen's inequality.
    – DanielV
    Aug 17 at 7:55












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In a book, I saw the following:



For any two positive numbers $a$, $b$ and $p>1$, $a^1/p+b^1/p>(a+b)^1/p$. I tried to prove this but I was unsuccessful. Also, how is this inequality called, couldn't find any information online.







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In a book, I saw the following:



For any two positive numbers $a$, $b$ and $p>1$, $a^1/p+b^1/p>(a+b)^1/p$. I tried to prove this but I was unsuccessful. Also, how is this inequality called, couldn't find any information online.









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  • It should be $ge$ instead of $>$as the case $p=1$
    – Mira from Earth
    Aug 17 at 7:27










  • $2^2+3^2 lt 5^2$ if $a=2, b=3 ,p=0.5 $
    – DevashishKaushik
    Aug 17 at 7:27











  • @Mark A. Ruiz Maybe you omitted some restrictions on the values your variables are allowed to take ?
    – DevashishKaushik
    Aug 17 at 7:29











  • Also, have you tried using Binomial Theorem for the proof ?
    – DevashishKaushik
    Aug 17 at 7:32










  • I would recommend start by proving $frac12 left(a^1/p + b^1/pright) > left(fraca + b2right)^1/p$, using $f(x) = x^1/p$ being a concave, and something like Jensen's inequality.
    – DanielV
    Aug 17 at 7:55
















  • It should be $ge$ instead of $>$as the case $p=1$
    – Mira from Earth
    Aug 17 at 7:27










  • $2^2+3^2 lt 5^2$ if $a=2, b=3 ,p=0.5 $
    – DevashishKaushik
    Aug 17 at 7:27











  • @Mark A. Ruiz Maybe you omitted some restrictions on the values your variables are allowed to take ?
    – DevashishKaushik
    Aug 17 at 7:29











  • Also, have you tried using Binomial Theorem for the proof ?
    – DevashishKaushik
    Aug 17 at 7:32










  • I would recommend start by proving $frac12 left(a^1/p + b^1/pright) > left(fraca + b2right)^1/p$, using $f(x) = x^1/p$ being a concave, and something like Jensen's inequality.
    – DanielV
    Aug 17 at 7:55















It should be $ge$ instead of $>$as the case $p=1$
– Mira from Earth
Aug 17 at 7:27




It should be $ge$ instead of $>$as the case $p=1$
– Mira from Earth
Aug 17 at 7:27












$2^2+3^2 lt 5^2$ if $a=2, b=3 ,p=0.5 $
– DevashishKaushik
Aug 17 at 7:27





$2^2+3^2 lt 5^2$ if $a=2, b=3 ,p=0.5 $
– DevashishKaushik
Aug 17 at 7:27













@Mark A. Ruiz Maybe you omitted some restrictions on the values your variables are allowed to take ?
– DevashishKaushik
Aug 17 at 7:29





@Mark A. Ruiz Maybe you omitted some restrictions on the values your variables are allowed to take ?
– DevashishKaushik
Aug 17 at 7:29













Also, have you tried using Binomial Theorem for the proof ?
– DevashishKaushik
Aug 17 at 7:32




Also, have you tried using Binomial Theorem for the proof ?
– DevashishKaushik
Aug 17 at 7:32












I would recommend start by proving $frac12 left(a^1/p + b^1/pright) > left(fraca + b2right)^1/p$, using $f(x) = x^1/p$ being a concave, and something like Jensen's inequality.
– DanielV
Aug 17 at 7:55




I would recommend start by proving $frac12 left(a^1/p + b^1/pright) > left(fraca + b2right)^1/p$, using $f(x) = x^1/p$ being a concave, and something like Jensen's inequality.
– DanielV
Aug 17 at 7:55










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The inequality is false for $p <1$. For example $a^2+b^2 < (a+b)^2$ for $a, b >0$ so the inequality does not hold for $p =frac 1 2$. Suppose $p >1$. We claim that $c^t+(1-c)^t >1$ if $c,t in (0,1)$. If this is proved we can take $c =frac a a+b$ and $t =frac 1 p$ to complete the proof. To prove the claim diferentiate w.r.t. $c$ to see that the function $c to c^t+(1-c)^t$ is strictly increasing for $c <frac 1 2$ and then it strictly decreases. Hence the inequality will follow if we prove that equality holds for $c=0$ and $c=1$ which is trivial.






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    you mean $p<1$.
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  • Sorry for the typo.
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Aug 17 at 7:28










  • actually is for p>1, sorry about this, I can't seem to edit the question
    – Mark A. Ruiz
    Aug 17 at 7:33

















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$a^1/p+b^1/p>(a+b)^1/p$ is false ! Consider the case $p=1/2$.






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  • actually is for p>1, sorry about this, I can't seem to edit the question.
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Actually, if $a,b>0$ and $p>1$, you have an equivalence between
$$
(a+b)^1/p < a^1/p + b^1/p
$$
and
$$
a+b < sum_k=0^p binompka^(p-k)/p b^k/p, \
a + b < a + b + sum_k=1^p-1 binompka^(p-k)/p b^k/p.
$$



The last inequality obviously is true and it is an equality if $a=0$ or $b=0$ or $p=1$.






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    Since both sides of inequality are homogeneous in $a, b$ of degree $1/p$ we can work with the assumption that $a+b=1$. Since $a, b$ are positive it follows that $0<a,b<1$ and $p>1$ so we have $$a^1/p+b^1/p>a+b=1=1^1/p=(a+b)^1/p$$






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      The inequality is false for $p <1$. For example $a^2+b^2 < (a+b)^2$ for $a, b >0$ so the inequality does not hold for $p =frac 1 2$. Suppose $p >1$. We claim that $c^t+(1-c)^t >1$ if $c,t in (0,1)$. If this is proved we can take $c =frac a a+b$ and $t =frac 1 p$ to complete the proof. To prove the claim diferentiate w.r.t. $c$ to see that the function $c to c^t+(1-c)^t$ is strictly increasing for $c <frac 1 2$ and then it strictly decreases. Hence the inequality will follow if we prove that equality holds for $c=0$ and $c=1$ which is trivial.






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        you mean $p<1$.
        – Fred
        Aug 17 at 7:27










      • Sorry for the typo.
        – Kavi Rama Murthy
        Aug 17 at 7:28










      • actually is for p>1, sorry about this, I can't seem to edit the question
        – Mark A. Ruiz
        Aug 17 at 7:33














      up vote
      2
      down vote



      accepted










      The inequality is false for $p <1$. For example $a^2+b^2 < (a+b)^2$ for $a, b >0$ so the inequality does not hold for $p =frac 1 2$. Suppose $p >1$. We claim that $c^t+(1-c)^t >1$ if $c,t in (0,1)$. If this is proved we can take $c =frac a a+b$ and $t =frac 1 p$ to complete the proof. To prove the claim diferentiate w.r.t. $c$ to see that the function $c to c^t+(1-c)^t$ is strictly increasing for $c <frac 1 2$ and then it strictly decreases. Hence the inequality will follow if we prove that equality holds for $c=0$ and $c=1$ which is trivial.






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      • 1




        you mean $p<1$.
        – Fred
        Aug 17 at 7:27










      • Sorry for the typo.
        – Kavi Rama Murthy
        Aug 17 at 7:28










      • actually is for p>1, sorry about this, I can't seem to edit the question
        – Mark A. Ruiz
        Aug 17 at 7:33












      up vote
      2
      down vote



      accepted







      up vote
      2
      down vote



      accepted






      The inequality is false for $p <1$. For example $a^2+b^2 < (a+b)^2$ for $a, b >0$ so the inequality does not hold for $p =frac 1 2$. Suppose $p >1$. We claim that $c^t+(1-c)^t >1$ if $c,t in (0,1)$. If this is proved we can take $c =frac a a+b$ and $t =frac 1 p$ to complete the proof. To prove the claim diferentiate w.r.t. $c$ to see that the function $c to c^t+(1-c)^t$ is strictly increasing for $c <frac 1 2$ and then it strictly decreases. Hence the inequality will follow if we prove that equality holds for $c=0$ and $c=1$ which is trivial.






      share|cite|improve this answer














      The inequality is false for $p <1$. For example $a^2+b^2 < (a+b)^2$ for $a, b >0$ so the inequality does not hold for $p =frac 1 2$. Suppose $p >1$. We claim that $c^t+(1-c)^t >1$ if $c,t in (0,1)$. If this is proved we can take $c =frac a a+b$ and $t =frac 1 p$ to complete the proof. To prove the claim diferentiate w.r.t. $c$ to see that the function $c to c^t+(1-c)^t$ is strictly increasing for $c <frac 1 2$ and then it strictly decreases. Hence the inequality will follow if we prove that equality holds for $c=0$ and $c=1$ which is trivial.







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        you mean $p<1$.
        – Fred
        Aug 17 at 7:27










      • Sorry for the typo.
        – Kavi Rama Murthy
        Aug 17 at 7:28










      • actually is for p>1, sorry about this, I can't seem to edit the question
        – Mark A. Ruiz
        Aug 17 at 7:33












      • 1




        you mean $p<1$.
        – Fred
        Aug 17 at 7:27










      • Sorry for the typo.
        – Kavi Rama Murthy
        Aug 17 at 7:28










      • actually is for p>1, sorry about this, I can't seem to edit the question
        – Mark A. Ruiz
        Aug 17 at 7:33







      1




      1




      you mean $p<1$.
      – Fred
      Aug 17 at 7:27




      you mean $p<1$.
      – Fred
      Aug 17 at 7:27












      Sorry for the typo.
      – Kavi Rama Murthy
      Aug 17 at 7:28




      Sorry for the typo.
      – Kavi Rama Murthy
      Aug 17 at 7:28












      actually is for p>1, sorry about this, I can't seem to edit the question
      – Mark A. Ruiz
      Aug 17 at 7:33




      actually is for p>1, sorry about this, I can't seem to edit the question
      – Mark A. Ruiz
      Aug 17 at 7:33










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      $a^1/p+b^1/p>(a+b)^1/p$ is false ! Consider the case $p=1/2$.






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      • actually is for p>1, sorry about this, I can't seem to edit the question.
        – Mark A. Ruiz
        Aug 17 at 7:33














      up vote
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      down vote













      $a^1/p+b^1/p>(a+b)^1/p$ is false ! Consider the case $p=1/2$.






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      • actually is for p>1, sorry about this, I can't seem to edit the question.
        – Mark A. Ruiz
        Aug 17 at 7:33












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      up vote
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      $a^1/p+b^1/p>(a+b)^1/p$ is false ! Consider the case $p=1/2$.






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      $a^1/p+b^1/p>(a+b)^1/p$ is false ! Consider the case $p=1/2$.







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      answered Aug 17 at 7:26









      Fred

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      • actually is for p>1, sorry about this, I can't seem to edit the question.
        – Mark A. Ruiz
        Aug 17 at 7:33
















      • actually is for p>1, sorry about this, I can't seem to edit the question.
        – Mark A. Ruiz
        Aug 17 at 7:33















      actually is for p>1, sorry about this, I can't seem to edit the question.
      – Mark A. Ruiz
      Aug 17 at 7:33




      actually is for p>1, sorry about this, I can't seem to edit the question.
      – Mark A. Ruiz
      Aug 17 at 7:33










      up vote
      0
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      Actually, if $a,b>0$ and $p>1$, you have an equivalence between
      $$
      (a+b)^1/p < a^1/p + b^1/p
      $$
      and
      $$
      a+b < sum_k=0^p binompka^(p-k)/p b^k/p, \
      a + b < a + b + sum_k=1^p-1 binompka^(p-k)/p b^k/p.
      $$



      The last inequality obviously is true and it is an equality if $a=0$ or $b=0$ or $p=1$.






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        Actually, if $a,b>0$ and $p>1$, you have an equivalence between
        $$
        (a+b)^1/p < a^1/p + b^1/p
        $$
        and
        $$
        a+b < sum_k=0^p binompka^(p-k)/p b^k/p, \
        a + b < a + b + sum_k=1^p-1 binompka^(p-k)/p b^k/p.
        $$



        The last inequality obviously is true and it is an equality if $a=0$ or $b=0$ or $p=1$.






        share|cite|improve this answer






















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          Actually, if $a,b>0$ and $p>1$, you have an equivalence between
          $$
          (a+b)^1/p < a^1/p + b^1/p
          $$
          and
          $$
          a+b < sum_k=0^p binompka^(p-k)/p b^k/p, \
          a + b < a + b + sum_k=1^p-1 binompka^(p-k)/p b^k/p.
          $$



          The last inequality obviously is true and it is an equality if $a=0$ or $b=0$ or $p=1$.






          share|cite|improve this answer












          Actually, if $a,b>0$ and $p>1$, you have an equivalence between
          $$
          (a+b)^1/p < a^1/p + b^1/p
          $$
          and
          $$
          a+b < sum_k=0^p binompka^(p-k)/p b^k/p, \
          a + b < a + b + sum_k=1^p-1 binompka^(p-k)/p b^k/p.
          $$



          The last inequality obviously is true and it is an equality if $a=0$ or $b=0$ or $p=1$.







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              Since both sides of inequality are homogeneous in $a, b$ of degree $1/p$ we can work with the assumption that $a+b=1$. Since $a, b$ are positive it follows that $0<a,b<1$ and $p>1$ so we have $$a^1/p+b^1/p>a+b=1=1^1/p=(a+b)^1/p$$






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                Since both sides of inequality are homogeneous in $a, b$ of degree $1/p$ we can work with the assumption that $a+b=1$. Since $a, b$ are positive it follows that $0<a,b<1$ and $p>1$ so we have $$a^1/p+b^1/p>a+b=1=1^1/p=(a+b)^1/p$$






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                  Since both sides of inequality are homogeneous in $a, b$ of degree $1/p$ we can work with the assumption that $a+b=1$. Since $a, b$ are positive it follows that $0<a,b<1$ and $p>1$ so we have $$a^1/p+b^1/p>a+b=1=1^1/p=(a+b)^1/p$$






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                  Since both sides of inequality are homogeneous in $a, b$ of degree $1/p$ we can work with the assumption that $a+b=1$. Since $a, b$ are positive it follows that $0<a,b<1$ and $p>1$ so we have $$a^1/p+b^1/p>a+b=1=1^1/p=(a+b)^1/p$$







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