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Evaluate $$lim _x to 0 left[fracx^2sin x tan x right]$$ where $[cdot]$ denotes the greatest integer function.



Can anyone give me a hint to proceed?



I know that $$frac sin xx < 1$$ for all $x in (-pi/2 ,pi/2) setminus 0$ and $$frac tan xx > 1$$ for all $x in (-pi/2 ,pi/2) setminus 0$. But will these two inequalities be helpful here?







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      I know that $$frac sin xx < 1$$ for all $x in (-pi/2 ,pi/2) setminus 0$ and $$frac tan xx > 1$$ for all $x in (-pi/2 ,pi/2) setminus 0$. But will these two inequalities be helpful here?







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      I know that $$frac sin xx < 1$$ for all $x in (-pi/2 ,pi/2) setminus 0$ and $$frac tan xx > 1$$ for all $x in (-pi/2 ,pi/2) setminus 0$. But will these two inequalities be helpful here?





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          Using the inequalities $cos x < 1-frac x^2 2 + frac x^4 24$ and $sin x > x -frac x^3 6$ you can check that $0leq frac x^2 sin x tan x <1$ for all $x>0$ sufficiently small. Hence the integer part of this fraction is $0$ for such $x$. The function is even so the limit from both sides are $0$. To obtain the stated inequality for $cos x$ note that $frac x^2n+2 (2n+2)! <frac x^2n (2n)!$ if $0<x<1$. Group the terms of the Taylor series two by two and use this inequality. A similar argument works for $sin x$.






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          • But How can this inequalities be true? How can you assume that the sum of rest series of $cos x$ will be greater than $0$? @Kavi Rama Murthy
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 7:24










          • @cmi I have included a proof now.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Aug 17 at 7:34










          • My edit was for a typo.... tan x for tan x
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:15










          • What would you do when $x in (-1 , 0)$?@Kavi Rama Murthy
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 8:15






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            $frac x^2 sin x tan x$ is an even function of $x$.
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          Can you just use the known expansions for $sin x, tan x$ for small $x$? Then have $$fracx^2sin x tan x = fracx^2(x - fracx^36 + cdots)(x + fracx^33 + cdots).$$ The rhs only including terms up to $x^2$ can be written $$frac1(1 - x^2/6)(1 + x^2/3)$$ and the denominator to order $x^2$ is $1 + x^2/6$ so that finally have $$fracx^2sin x tan x = frac11 + fracx^26 + cdots = 1 - x^2/6$$ and the integer part is 0.



          Alternatively write the original expression as $$fracx^2 cos xsin^2 x.$$






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            The second term in the series for $tan x$ is $x^3/3,$ not $x^3/5.$
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:12










          • What do you do in the interval $(-1 , 0)$? @jim
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 8:12










          • To the proposer: The function is an EVEN function.
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:17










          • @cmi: $dfracx^2sin x,tan x$ is an even function.
            – Bernard
            Aug 17 at 8:18











          • @DanielWainfleet ooops, thanks for pointing that out.
            – jim
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          Using the inequalities $cos x < 1-frac x^2 2 + frac x^4 24$ and $sin x > x -frac x^3 6$ you can check that $0leq frac x^2 sin x tan x <1$ for all $x>0$ sufficiently small. Hence the integer part of this fraction is $0$ for such $x$. The function is even so the limit from both sides are $0$. To obtain the stated inequality for $cos x$ note that $frac x^2n+2 (2n+2)! <frac x^2n (2n)!$ if $0<x<1$. Group the terms of the Taylor series two by two and use this inequality. A similar argument works for $sin x$.






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          • But How can this inequalities be true? How can you assume that the sum of rest series of $cos x$ will be greater than $0$? @Kavi Rama Murthy
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 7:24










          • @cmi I have included a proof now.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Aug 17 at 7:34










          • My edit was for a typo.... tan x for tan x
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:15










          • What would you do when $x in (-1 , 0)$?@Kavi Rama Murthy
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 8:15






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            $frac x^2 sin x tan x$ is an even function of $x$.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Aug 17 at 8:16














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          Using the inequalities $cos x < 1-frac x^2 2 + frac x^4 24$ and $sin x > x -frac x^3 6$ you can check that $0leq frac x^2 sin x tan x <1$ for all $x>0$ sufficiently small. Hence the integer part of this fraction is $0$ for such $x$. The function is even so the limit from both sides are $0$. To obtain the stated inequality for $cos x$ note that $frac x^2n+2 (2n+2)! <frac x^2n (2n)!$ if $0<x<1$. Group the terms of the Taylor series two by two and use this inequality. A similar argument works for $sin x$.






          share|cite|improve this answer






















          • But How can this inequalities be true? How can you assume that the sum of rest series of $cos x$ will be greater than $0$? @Kavi Rama Murthy
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 7:24










          • @cmi I have included a proof now.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Aug 17 at 7:34










          • My edit was for a typo.... tan x for tan x
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:15










          • What would you do when $x in (-1 , 0)$?@Kavi Rama Murthy
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 8:15






          • 1




            $frac x^2 sin x tan x$ is an even function of $x$.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Aug 17 at 8:16












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          Using the inequalities $cos x < 1-frac x^2 2 + frac x^4 24$ and $sin x > x -frac x^3 6$ you can check that $0leq frac x^2 sin x tan x <1$ for all $x>0$ sufficiently small. Hence the integer part of this fraction is $0$ for such $x$. The function is even so the limit from both sides are $0$. To obtain the stated inequality for $cos x$ note that $frac x^2n+2 (2n+2)! <frac x^2n (2n)!$ if $0<x<1$. Group the terms of the Taylor series two by two and use this inequality. A similar argument works for $sin x$.






          share|cite|improve this answer














          Using the inequalities $cos x < 1-frac x^2 2 + frac x^4 24$ and $sin x > x -frac x^3 6$ you can check that $0leq frac x^2 sin x tan x <1$ for all $x>0$ sufficiently small. Hence the integer part of this fraction is $0$ for such $x$. The function is even so the limit from both sides are $0$. To obtain the stated inequality for $cos x$ note that $frac x^2n+2 (2n+2)! <frac x^2n (2n)!$ if $0<x<1$. Group the terms of the Taylor series two by two and use this inequality. A similar argument works for $sin x$.







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          • But How can this inequalities be true? How can you assume that the sum of rest series of $cos x$ will be greater than $0$? @Kavi Rama Murthy
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 7:24










          • @cmi I have included a proof now.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Aug 17 at 7:34










          • My edit was for a typo.... tan x for tan x
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:15










          • What would you do when $x in (-1 , 0)$?@Kavi Rama Murthy
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 8:15






          • 1




            $frac x^2 sin x tan x$ is an even function of $x$.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Aug 17 at 8:16
















          • But How can this inequalities be true? How can you assume that the sum of rest series of $cos x$ will be greater than $0$? @Kavi Rama Murthy
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 7:24










          • @cmi I have included a proof now.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Aug 17 at 7:34










          • My edit was for a typo.... tan x for tan x
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:15










          • What would you do when $x in (-1 , 0)$?@Kavi Rama Murthy
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 8:15






          • 1




            $frac x^2 sin x tan x$ is an even function of $x$.
            – Kavi Rama Murthy
            Aug 17 at 8:16















          But How can this inequalities be true? How can you assume that the sum of rest series of $cos x$ will be greater than $0$? @Kavi Rama Murthy
          – cmi
          Aug 17 at 7:24




          But How can this inequalities be true? How can you assume that the sum of rest series of $cos x$ will be greater than $0$? @Kavi Rama Murthy
          – cmi
          Aug 17 at 7:24












          @cmi I have included a proof now.
          – Kavi Rama Murthy
          Aug 17 at 7:34




          @cmi I have included a proof now.
          – Kavi Rama Murthy
          Aug 17 at 7:34












          My edit was for a typo.... tan x for tan x
          – DanielWainfleet
          Aug 17 at 8:15




          My edit was for a typo.... tan x for tan x
          – DanielWainfleet
          Aug 17 at 8:15












          What would you do when $x in (-1 , 0)$?@Kavi Rama Murthy
          – cmi
          Aug 17 at 8:15




          What would you do when $x in (-1 , 0)$?@Kavi Rama Murthy
          – cmi
          Aug 17 at 8:15




          1




          1




          $frac x^2 sin x tan x$ is an even function of $x$.
          – Kavi Rama Murthy
          Aug 17 at 8:16




          $frac x^2 sin x tan x$ is an even function of $x$.
          – Kavi Rama Murthy
          Aug 17 at 8:16










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          Can you just use the known expansions for $sin x, tan x$ for small $x$? Then have $$fracx^2sin x tan x = fracx^2(x - fracx^36 + cdots)(x + fracx^33 + cdots).$$ The rhs only including terms up to $x^2$ can be written $$frac1(1 - x^2/6)(1 + x^2/3)$$ and the denominator to order $x^2$ is $1 + x^2/6$ so that finally have $$fracx^2sin x tan x = frac11 + fracx^26 + cdots = 1 - x^2/6$$ and the integer part is 0.



          Alternatively write the original expression as $$fracx^2 cos xsin^2 x.$$






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            The second term in the series for $tan x$ is $x^3/3,$ not $x^3/5.$
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:12










          • What do you do in the interval $(-1 , 0)$? @jim
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 8:12










          • To the proposer: The function is an EVEN function.
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:17










          • @cmi: $dfracx^2sin x,tan x$ is an even function.
            – Bernard
            Aug 17 at 8:18











          • @DanielWainfleet ooops, thanks for pointing that out.
            – jim
            Aug 17 at 10:31














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          Can you just use the known expansions for $sin x, tan x$ for small $x$? Then have $$fracx^2sin x tan x = fracx^2(x - fracx^36 + cdots)(x + fracx^33 + cdots).$$ The rhs only including terms up to $x^2$ can be written $$frac1(1 - x^2/6)(1 + x^2/3)$$ and the denominator to order $x^2$ is $1 + x^2/6$ so that finally have $$fracx^2sin x tan x = frac11 + fracx^26 + cdots = 1 - x^2/6$$ and the integer part is 0.



          Alternatively write the original expression as $$fracx^2 cos xsin^2 x.$$






          share|cite|improve this answer


















          • 1




            The second term in the series for $tan x$ is $x^3/3,$ not $x^3/5.$
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:12










          • What do you do in the interval $(-1 , 0)$? @jim
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 8:12










          • To the proposer: The function is an EVEN function.
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:17










          • @cmi: $dfracx^2sin x,tan x$ is an even function.
            – Bernard
            Aug 17 at 8:18











          • @DanielWainfleet ooops, thanks for pointing that out.
            – jim
            Aug 17 at 10:31












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          Can you just use the known expansions for $sin x, tan x$ for small $x$? Then have $$fracx^2sin x tan x = fracx^2(x - fracx^36 + cdots)(x + fracx^33 + cdots).$$ The rhs only including terms up to $x^2$ can be written $$frac1(1 - x^2/6)(1 + x^2/3)$$ and the denominator to order $x^2$ is $1 + x^2/6$ so that finally have $$fracx^2sin x tan x = frac11 + fracx^26 + cdots = 1 - x^2/6$$ and the integer part is 0.



          Alternatively write the original expression as $$fracx^2 cos xsin^2 x.$$






          share|cite|improve this answer














          Can you just use the known expansions for $sin x, tan x$ for small $x$? Then have $$fracx^2sin x tan x = fracx^2(x - fracx^36 + cdots)(x + fracx^33 + cdots).$$ The rhs only including terms up to $x^2$ can be written $$frac1(1 - x^2/6)(1 + x^2/3)$$ and the denominator to order $x^2$ is $1 + x^2/6$ so that finally have $$fracx^2sin x tan x = frac11 + fracx^26 + cdots = 1 - x^2/6$$ and the integer part is 0.



          Alternatively write the original expression as $$fracx^2 cos xsin^2 x.$$







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            The second term in the series for $tan x$ is $x^3/3,$ not $x^3/5.$
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:12










          • What do you do in the interval $(-1 , 0)$? @jim
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 8:12










          • To the proposer: The function is an EVEN function.
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:17










          • @cmi: $dfracx^2sin x,tan x$ is an even function.
            – Bernard
            Aug 17 at 8:18











          • @DanielWainfleet ooops, thanks for pointing that out.
            – jim
            Aug 17 at 10:31












          • 1




            The second term in the series for $tan x$ is $x^3/3,$ not $x^3/5.$
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:12










          • What do you do in the interval $(-1 , 0)$? @jim
            – cmi
            Aug 17 at 8:12










          • To the proposer: The function is an EVEN function.
            – DanielWainfleet
            Aug 17 at 8:17










          • @cmi: $dfracx^2sin x,tan x$ is an even function.
            – Bernard
            Aug 17 at 8:18











          • @DanielWainfleet ooops, thanks for pointing that out.
            – jim
            Aug 17 at 10:31







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          The second term in the series for $tan x$ is $x^3/3,$ not $x^3/5.$
          – DanielWainfleet
          Aug 17 at 8:12




          The second term in the series for $tan x$ is $x^3/3,$ not $x^3/5.$
          – DanielWainfleet
          Aug 17 at 8:12












          What do you do in the interval $(-1 , 0)$? @jim
          – cmi
          Aug 17 at 8:12




          What do you do in the interval $(-1 , 0)$? @jim
          – cmi
          Aug 17 at 8:12












          To the proposer: The function is an EVEN function.
          – DanielWainfleet
          Aug 17 at 8:17




          To the proposer: The function is an EVEN function.
          – DanielWainfleet
          Aug 17 at 8:17












          @cmi: $dfracx^2sin x,tan x$ is an even function.
          – Bernard
          Aug 17 at 8:18





          @cmi: $dfracx^2sin x,tan x$ is an even function.
          – Bernard
          Aug 17 at 8:18













          @DanielWainfleet ooops, thanks for pointing that out.
          – jim
          Aug 17 at 10:31




          @DanielWainfleet ooops, thanks for pointing that out.
          – jim
          Aug 17 at 10:31


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