Can you convert a non ânormalâ complex square matrix into a ânormalâ one?
Clash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP
up vote
2
down vote
favorite
I've read the definition that "a complex square matrix $bf A$ is normal if it commutes with its conjugate transpose".
I've also read that "A is a normal matrix iff there exists a unitary matrix U such that UAU^(-1) is a diagonal matrix.".
Given the matrix
$A = beginbmatrixa+ib&-cd\-ce&a+ibendbmatrix$
I have found that the complex matrix is not normal: $AA^* neq A^*A$
I know I can do a change of basis from the standard one to one that utilizes the eigenvectors ("eigen basis"), which inevitably transforms $A$ into a normal matrix with the eigenvalues on the diagonal. Aside from this "trivial" solution, can a complex square matrix that is not normal, be converted to one that is normal? Is there a given methodology/algorithm for this? If the method involves a change of basis, can an I retain an orthonormal basis?
Here is what I tried so far:
I've found the eigenvectors and eigenvalues of $A$. The eigenvectors are
$ V_1 = left[frac(ed)^1/2e,1 right]^T , V_2 = left[-frac(ed)^1/2e,1 right]^T$
The eigenvectors are not orthogonal, so simply normalizing them does not provide an orthonormal basis (part of my objective). I then normalized both eigenvectors and chose one to be fixed as the first basis vector. I then used the Gram-Schmidt procedure to find the orthonormal basis vector. After that I checked if the orthonormal basis vectors satisfies $U times U^* = U^* times U = I$, which means its normal, and $U^* = U^-1$. (NOTE: * means conjugate transpose)
I then applied the change of basis to $A$ to get
$ beginbmatrix a + ib + c(ed)^1/2 & -c(e - d) \ 0 & a + ib - c(ed)^1/2 endbmatrix$
Clearly the only way to make it diagonal is to set $d=e$. If that were the case, then the resulting diagonal is the eigenvalues, which result from utilizing an "eigen basis". So it would seem that $A$ is only a normal matrix when $d = e$ (which is only true since the diagonals of $A$ are the same).
In my attempt, where I "chose one to be fixed as the first basis vector", would choosing a different orthonormal basis ever transform $A$ into a normal matrix? At the start, $A$ uses a standard basis (orthonormal) but is not a normal matrix. I tried to make a change of basis using an orthonormal "eigen basis", but still the transform matrix is not normal.
This led be to believe there is a requirement that $A$ be normal to begin with. After doing some more digging, this actual makes sense and it should have been clear from the start: $ A = CDC^-1$ where $C$ is my change of basis and $D$ is the transformation matrix with respect to the new basis. What I tried was to force $C$ to be unitary, which showed that $D$ is not diagonal, because $A$ was not normal to begin with.
From a different perspective, if I force $D$ to be diagonal with the eigenvalues (result from $C$ being the "eigen basis"), then $A$ is only normal if $C$ is unitary. But as I said prior, the eigen basis is not orthogonal, hence $A$ is not normal.
Call it one big proof (to my self) by contradiction that any change of basis will not influence whether the complex transformation matrix is normal.
So, if basis changes don't help, are there other alternatives? What about changes in the coordinates ("This is, I believe, as good as you can get")? I'm open to any suggestions really. Maybe I'm just stuck with non normal matrix?
matrices complex-numbers linear-transformations
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
favorite
I've read the definition that "a complex square matrix $bf A$ is normal if it commutes with its conjugate transpose".
I've also read that "A is a normal matrix iff there exists a unitary matrix U such that UAU^(-1) is a diagonal matrix.".
Given the matrix
$A = beginbmatrixa+ib&-cd\-ce&a+ibendbmatrix$
I have found that the complex matrix is not normal: $AA^* neq A^*A$
I know I can do a change of basis from the standard one to one that utilizes the eigenvectors ("eigen basis"), which inevitably transforms $A$ into a normal matrix with the eigenvalues on the diagonal. Aside from this "trivial" solution, can a complex square matrix that is not normal, be converted to one that is normal? Is there a given methodology/algorithm for this? If the method involves a change of basis, can an I retain an orthonormal basis?
Here is what I tried so far:
I've found the eigenvectors and eigenvalues of $A$. The eigenvectors are
$ V_1 = left[frac(ed)^1/2e,1 right]^T , V_2 = left[-frac(ed)^1/2e,1 right]^T$
The eigenvectors are not orthogonal, so simply normalizing them does not provide an orthonormal basis (part of my objective). I then normalized both eigenvectors and chose one to be fixed as the first basis vector. I then used the Gram-Schmidt procedure to find the orthonormal basis vector. After that I checked if the orthonormal basis vectors satisfies $U times U^* = U^* times U = I$, which means its normal, and $U^* = U^-1$. (NOTE: * means conjugate transpose)
I then applied the change of basis to $A$ to get
$ beginbmatrix a + ib + c(ed)^1/2 & -c(e - d) \ 0 & a + ib - c(ed)^1/2 endbmatrix$
Clearly the only way to make it diagonal is to set $d=e$. If that were the case, then the resulting diagonal is the eigenvalues, which result from utilizing an "eigen basis". So it would seem that $A$ is only a normal matrix when $d = e$ (which is only true since the diagonals of $A$ are the same).
In my attempt, where I "chose one to be fixed as the first basis vector", would choosing a different orthonormal basis ever transform $A$ into a normal matrix? At the start, $A$ uses a standard basis (orthonormal) but is not a normal matrix. I tried to make a change of basis using an orthonormal "eigen basis", but still the transform matrix is not normal.
This led be to believe there is a requirement that $A$ be normal to begin with. After doing some more digging, this actual makes sense and it should have been clear from the start: $ A = CDC^-1$ where $C$ is my change of basis and $D$ is the transformation matrix with respect to the new basis. What I tried was to force $C$ to be unitary, which showed that $D$ is not diagonal, because $A$ was not normal to begin with.
From a different perspective, if I force $D$ to be diagonal with the eigenvalues (result from $C$ being the "eigen basis"), then $A$ is only normal if $C$ is unitary. But as I said prior, the eigen basis is not orthogonal, hence $A$ is not normal.
Call it one big proof (to my self) by contradiction that any change of basis will not influence whether the complex transformation matrix is normal.
So, if basis changes don't help, are there other alternatives? What about changes in the coordinates ("This is, I believe, as good as you can get")? I'm open to any suggestions really. Maybe I'm just stuck with non normal matrix?
matrices complex-numbers linear-transformations
Depends what you mean by "transform". You can always just replace it with the identity matrix, but you probably don't want to. Anyway, if $A$ is normal, then so is every matrix similar to $A$, so changing basis won't get you anywhere.
â Gerry Myerson
Aug 17 at 7:19
Linear transform Ax = b. If I follow what you're saying then A would have had to been normal to begin with yeah? If that is the case, is there anything I can do to make it so?
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 17 at 8:55
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
favorite
up vote
2
down vote
favorite
I've read the definition that "a complex square matrix $bf A$ is normal if it commutes with its conjugate transpose".
I've also read that "A is a normal matrix iff there exists a unitary matrix U such that UAU^(-1) is a diagonal matrix.".
Given the matrix
$A = beginbmatrixa+ib&-cd\-ce&a+ibendbmatrix$
I have found that the complex matrix is not normal: $AA^* neq A^*A$
I know I can do a change of basis from the standard one to one that utilizes the eigenvectors ("eigen basis"), which inevitably transforms $A$ into a normal matrix with the eigenvalues on the diagonal. Aside from this "trivial" solution, can a complex square matrix that is not normal, be converted to one that is normal? Is there a given methodology/algorithm for this? If the method involves a change of basis, can an I retain an orthonormal basis?
Here is what I tried so far:
I've found the eigenvectors and eigenvalues of $A$. The eigenvectors are
$ V_1 = left[frac(ed)^1/2e,1 right]^T , V_2 = left[-frac(ed)^1/2e,1 right]^T$
The eigenvectors are not orthogonal, so simply normalizing them does not provide an orthonormal basis (part of my objective). I then normalized both eigenvectors and chose one to be fixed as the first basis vector. I then used the Gram-Schmidt procedure to find the orthonormal basis vector. After that I checked if the orthonormal basis vectors satisfies $U times U^* = U^* times U = I$, which means its normal, and $U^* = U^-1$. (NOTE: * means conjugate transpose)
I then applied the change of basis to $A$ to get
$ beginbmatrix a + ib + c(ed)^1/2 & -c(e - d) \ 0 & a + ib - c(ed)^1/2 endbmatrix$
Clearly the only way to make it diagonal is to set $d=e$. If that were the case, then the resulting diagonal is the eigenvalues, which result from utilizing an "eigen basis". So it would seem that $A$ is only a normal matrix when $d = e$ (which is only true since the diagonals of $A$ are the same).
In my attempt, where I "chose one to be fixed as the first basis vector", would choosing a different orthonormal basis ever transform $A$ into a normal matrix? At the start, $A$ uses a standard basis (orthonormal) but is not a normal matrix. I tried to make a change of basis using an orthonormal "eigen basis", but still the transform matrix is not normal.
This led be to believe there is a requirement that $A$ be normal to begin with. After doing some more digging, this actual makes sense and it should have been clear from the start: $ A = CDC^-1$ where $C$ is my change of basis and $D$ is the transformation matrix with respect to the new basis. What I tried was to force $C$ to be unitary, which showed that $D$ is not diagonal, because $A$ was not normal to begin with.
From a different perspective, if I force $D$ to be diagonal with the eigenvalues (result from $C$ being the "eigen basis"), then $A$ is only normal if $C$ is unitary. But as I said prior, the eigen basis is not orthogonal, hence $A$ is not normal.
Call it one big proof (to my self) by contradiction that any change of basis will not influence whether the complex transformation matrix is normal.
So, if basis changes don't help, are there other alternatives? What about changes in the coordinates ("This is, I believe, as good as you can get")? I'm open to any suggestions really. Maybe I'm just stuck with non normal matrix?
matrices complex-numbers linear-transformations
I've read the definition that "a complex square matrix $bf A$ is normal if it commutes with its conjugate transpose".
I've also read that "A is a normal matrix iff there exists a unitary matrix U such that UAU^(-1) is a diagonal matrix.".
Given the matrix
$A = beginbmatrixa+ib&-cd\-ce&a+ibendbmatrix$
I have found that the complex matrix is not normal: $AA^* neq A^*A$
I know I can do a change of basis from the standard one to one that utilizes the eigenvectors ("eigen basis"), which inevitably transforms $A$ into a normal matrix with the eigenvalues on the diagonal. Aside from this "trivial" solution, can a complex square matrix that is not normal, be converted to one that is normal? Is there a given methodology/algorithm for this? If the method involves a change of basis, can an I retain an orthonormal basis?
Here is what I tried so far:
I've found the eigenvectors and eigenvalues of $A$. The eigenvectors are
$ V_1 = left[frac(ed)^1/2e,1 right]^T , V_2 = left[-frac(ed)^1/2e,1 right]^T$
The eigenvectors are not orthogonal, so simply normalizing them does not provide an orthonormal basis (part of my objective). I then normalized both eigenvectors and chose one to be fixed as the first basis vector. I then used the Gram-Schmidt procedure to find the orthonormal basis vector. After that I checked if the orthonormal basis vectors satisfies $U times U^* = U^* times U = I$, which means its normal, and $U^* = U^-1$. (NOTE: * means conjugate transpose)
I then applied the change of basis to $A$ to get
$ beginbmatrix a + ib + c(ed)^1/2 & -c(e - d) \ 0 & a + ib - c(ed)^1/2 endbmatrix$
Clearly the only way to make it diagonal is to set $d=e$. If that were the case, then the resulting diagonal is the eigenvalues, which result from utilizing an "eigen basis". So it would seem that $A$ is only a normal matrix when $d = e$ (which is only true since the diagonals of $A$ are the same).
In my attempt, where I "chose one to be fixed as the first basis vector", would choosing a different orthonormal basis ever transform $A$ into a normal matrix? At the start, $A$ uses a standard basis (orthonormal) but is not a normal matrix. I tried to make a change of basis using an orthonormal "eigen basis", but still the transform matrix is not normal.
This led be to believe there is a requirement that $A$ be normal to begin with. After doing some more digging, this actual makes sense and it should have been clear from the start: $ A = CDC^-1$ where $C$ is my change of basis and $D$ is the transformation matrix with respect to the new basis. What I tried was to force $C$ to be unitary, which showed that $D$ is not diagonal, because $A$ was not normal to begin with.
From a different perspective, if I force $D$ to be diagonal with the eigenvalues (result from $C$ being the "eigen basis"), then $A$ is only normal if $C$ is unitary. But as I said prior, the eigen basis is not orthogonal, hence $A$ is not normal.
Call it one big proof (to my self) by contradiction that any change of basis will not influence whether the complex transformation matrix is normal.
So, if basis changes don't help, are there other alternatives? What about changes in the coordinates ("This is, I believe, as good as you can get")? I'm open to any suggestions really. Maybe I'm just stuck with non normal matrix?
matrices complex-numbers linear-transformations
edited Aug 18 at 3:07
asked Aug 17 at 6:09
ThatsRightJack
318112
318112
Depends what you mean by "transform". You can always just replace it with the identity matrix, but you probably don't want to. Anyway, if $A$ is normal, then so is every matrix similar to $A$, so changing basis won't get you anywhere.
â Gerry Myerson
Aug 17 at 7:19
Linear transform Ax = b. If I follow what you're saying then A would have had to been normal to begin with yeah? If that is the case, is there anything I can do to make it so?
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 17 at 8:55
add a comment |Â
Depends what you mean by "transform". You can always just replace it with the identity matrix, but you probably don't want to. Anyway, if $A$ is normal, then so is every matrix similar to $A$, so changing basis won't get you anywhere.
â Gerry Myerson
Aug 17 at 7:19
Linear transform Ax = b. If I follow what you're saying then A would have had to been normal to begin with yeah? If that is the case, is there anything I can do to make it so?
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 17 at 8:55
Depends what you mean by "transform". You can always just replace it with the identity matrix, but you probably don't want to. Anyway, if $A$ is normal, then so is every matrix similar to $A$, so changing basis won't get you anywhere.
â Gerry Myerson
Aug 17 at 7:19
Depends what you mean by "transform". You can always just replace it with the identity matrix, but you probably don't want to. Anyway, if $A$ is normal, then so is every matrix similar to $A$, so changing basis won't get you anywhere.
â Gerry Myerson
Aug 17 at 7:19
Linear transform Ax = b. If I follow what you're saying then A would have had to been normal to begin with yeah? If that is the case, is there anything I can do to make it so?
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 17 at 8:55
Linear transform Ax = b. If I follow what you're saying then A would have had to been normal to begin with yeah? If that is the case, is there anything I can do to make it so?
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 17 at 8:55
add a comment |Â
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
up vote
1
down vote
Let's take another viewpoint on the matter: $A$ corresponds to a linear map $Phicolon mathbb C^2 to mathbb C^2, quad xmapsto Ax$.
Conjugating $A$ with some unitary matrix corresponds to a change of basis from the standard basis to another orthogonal basis of $mathbb C^2$.
Being normal can be expressed in terms of $Phi$, it means that $Phi^*$ and $Phi$ commute, where $Phi^* colon mathbb C^2 to mathbb C^2$ is the unique linear map which satisfies $langle Phi(v),wrangle = langle v,Phi^*(w)rangle$ (this map exists, since our vector space is $2$-dimensional). Whether $Phi$ and $Phi^*$ commute does not depend on the choice of the orthonormal basis. If there is an orthogonal basis of $mathbb C^2$, such that the transformation matrix of $Phi$ has diagonal form, then $Phi$ will automatically commute with $Phi^*$ (since the transformation matrix of $Phi^*$ wrt to this basis is just the conjugate-transpose). So if $A$ is diagonalizable over an orthogonal basis, then it is already normal.
In terms of matrices, if you conjugate $A$ to $U^*AU$, then the new matrix is normal if and only if the old one is: $(U^*AU)^* = U^* A^* U$, which commutes with $U^* A U $ iff $A$ commutes with $A^*$.
What you can do: conjugate with a non-unitarian matrix. This corresponds to chosing a possibly non-orthogonal basis. In your case, just take $S=(V_1|V_2)$, then $S^-1AS=D$, where $D=textdiag(a+ib+csqrted~,~a+ib-csqrted)$. Then $D$ is a normal matrix, since it is in diagonal form. This is what you called the "trivial way". Of course, you can find many normal matrices which are similar to $D$ and therefore similar to $A$. Just take any unitary matrix $U$ and consider
$$B=U^* S^-1 A S U = U^* D U$$
$B$ is still similar to $A$ (we only did a change of basis), but since we did a unitarian change of basis from $D$, the matrix $B$ is normal (since $D$ was normal).
Other coordinate changes then "change of basis" are not an appropriate tool to deal with when considering linear maps. They break the meaning of the transformation matrix.
If I follow you (your last sentence of 2nd para), you're saying I need to start with A being normal? So that confirms my suspicion, which lead me to ask the question.
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 17 at 9:13
@ThatsRightJack If you start with a matrix $A$ and you want to conjugate $A$ with unitarian matrices to obtain a normal matrix, then $A$ has to be normal for you to be succesful, yes.
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:18
@ThatsRightJack If you allow conjugation with arbitrary invertible matrices, you may obtain a normal matrix from a non-normal matrix $A$, if $A$ has a full set of eigenvectors (see 3rd para).
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:19
@ThatsRightJack I started a chat room to discuss this further
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:44
I did some heavy editing on the question. I hope it's more clear. I guess my closing remarks circle back on the question. Your solution is clearly helpful in supporting that the basis change does not help. So I'm left wondering if an alternative approach is available or if I'm stuck with what I got...a non normal matrix
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 18 at 3:18
 |Â
show 1 more comment
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
1
down vote
Let's take another viewpoint on the matter: $A$ corresponds to a linear map $Phicolon mathbb C^2 to mathbb C^2, quad xmapsto Ax$.
Conjugating $A$ with some unitary matrix corresponds to a change of basis from the standard basis to another orthogonal basis of $mathbb C^2$.
Being normal can be expressed in terms of $Phi$, it means that $Phi^*$ and $Phi$ commute, where $Phi^* colon mathbb C^2 to mathbb C^2$ is the unique linear map which satisfies $langle Phi(v),wrangle = langle v,Phi^*(w)rangle$ (this map exists, since our vector space is $2$-dimensional). Whether $Phi$ and $Phi^*$ commute does not depend on the choice of the orthonormal basis. If there is an orthogonal basis of $mathbb C^2$, such that the transformation matrix of $Phi$ has diagonal form, then $Phi$ will automatically commute with $Phi^*$ (since the transformation matrix of $Phi^*$ wrt to this basis is just the conjugate-transpose). So if $A$ is diagonalizable over an orthogonal basis, then it is already normal.
In terms of matrices, if you conjugate $A$ to $U^*AU$, then the new matrix is normal if and only if the old one is: $(U^*AU)^* = U^* A^* U$, which commutes with $U^* A U $ iff $A$ commutes with $A^*$.
What you can do: conjugate with a non-unitarian matrix. This corresponds to chosing a possibly non-orthogonal basis. In your case, just take $S=(V_1|V_2)$, then $S^-1AS=D$, where $D=textdiag(a+ib+csqrted~,~a+ib-csqrted)$. Then $D$ is a normal matrix, since it is in diagonal form. This is what you called the "trivial way". Of course, you can find many normal matrices which are similar to $D$ and therefore similar to $A$. Just take any unitary matrix $U$ and consider
$$B=U^* S^-1 A S U = U^* D U$$
$B$ is still similar to $A$ (we only did a change of basis), but since we did a unitarian change of basis from $D$, the matrix $B$ is normal (since $D$ was normal).
Other coordinate changes then "change of basis" are not an appropriate tool to deal with when considering linear maps. They break the meaning of the transformation matrix.
If I follow you (your last sentence of 2nd para), you're saying I need to start with A being normal? So that confirms my suspicion, which lead me to ask the question.
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 17 at 9:13
@ThatsRightJack If you start with a matrix $A$ and you want to conjugate $A$ with unitarian matrices to obtain a normal matrix, then $A$ has to be normal for you to be succesful, yes.
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:18
@ThatsRightJack If you allow conjugation with arbitrary invertible matrices, you may obtain a normal matrix from a non-normal matrix $A$, if $A$ has a full set of eigenvectors (see 3rd para).
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:19
@ThatsRightJack I started a chat room to discuss this further
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:44
I did some heavy editing on the question. I hope it's more clear. I guess my closing remarks circle back on the question. Your solution is clearly helpful in supporting that the basis change does not help. So I'm left wondering if an alternative approach is available or if I'm stuck with what I got...a non normal matrix
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 18 at 3:18
 |Â
show 1 more comment
up vote
1
down vote
Let's take another viewpoint on the matter: $A$ corresponds to a linear map $Phicolon mathbb C^2 to mathbb C^2, quad xmapsto Ax$.
Conjugating $A$ with some unitary matrix corresponds to a change of basis from the standard basis to another orthogonal basis of $mathbb C^2$.
Being normal can be expressed in terms of $Phi$, it means that $Phi^*$ and $Phi$ commute, where $Phi^* colon mathbb C^2 to mathbb C^2$ is the unique linear map which satisfies $langle Phi(v),wrangle = langle v,Phi^*(w)rangle$ (this map exists, since our vector space is $2$-dimensional). Whether $Phi$ and $Phi^*$ commute does not depend on the choice of the orthonormal basis. If there is an orthogonal basis of $mathbb C^2$, such that the transformation matrix of $Phi$ has diagonal form, then $Phi$ will automatically commute with $Phi^*$ (since the transformation matrix of $Phi^*$ wrt to this basis is just the conjugate-transpose). So if $A$ is diagonalizable over an orthogonal basis, then it is already normal.
In terms of matrices, if you conjugate $A$ to $U^*AU$, then the new matrix is normal if and only if the old one is: $(U^*AU)^* = U^* A^* U$, which commutes with $U^* A U $ iff $A$ commutes with $A^*$.
What you can do: conjugate with a non-unitarian matrix. This corresponds to chosing a possibly non-orthogonal basis. In your case, just take $S=(V_1|V_2)$, then $S^-1AS=D$, where $D=textdiag(a+ib+csqrted~,~a+ib-csqrted)$. Then $D$ is a normal matrix, since it is in diagonal form. This is what you called the "trivial way". Of course, you can find many normal matrices which are similar to $D$ and therefore similar to $A$. Just take any unitary matrix $U$ and consider
$$B=U^* S^-1 A S U = U^* D U$$
$B$ is still similar to $A$ (we only did a change of basis), but since we did a unitarian change of basis from $D$, the matrix $B$ is normal (since $D$ was normal).
Other coordinate changes then "change of basis" are not an appropriate tool to deal with when considering linear maps. They break the meaning of the transformation matrix.
If I follow you (your last sentence of 2nd para), you're saying I need to start with A being normal? So that confirms my suspicion, which lead me to ask the question.
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 17 at 9:13
@ThatsRightJack If you start with a matrix $A$ and you want to conjugate $A$ with unitarian matrices to obtain a normal matrix, then $A$ has to be normal for you to be succesful, yes.
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:18
@ThatsRightJack If you allow conjugation with arbitrary invertible matrices, you may obtain a normal matrix from a non-normal matrix $A$, if $A$ has a full set of eigenvectors (see 3rd para).
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:19
@ThatsRightJack I started a chat room to discuss this further
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:44
I did some heavy editing on the question. I hope it's more clear. I guess my closing remarks circle back on the question. Your solution is clearly helpful in supporting that the basis change does not help. So I'm left wondering if an alternative approach is available or if I'm stuck with what I got...a non normal matrix
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 18 at 3:18
 |Â
show 1 more comment
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Let's take another viewpoint on the matter: $A$ corresponds to a linear map $Phicolon mathbb C^2 to mathbb C^2, quad xmapsto Ax$.
Conjugating $A$ with some unitary matrix corresponds to a change of basis from the standard basis to another orthogonal basis of $mathbb C^2$.
Being normal can be expressed in terms of $Phi$, it means that $Phi^*$ and $Phi$ commute, where $Phi^* colon mathbb C^2 to mathbb C^2$ is the unique linear map which satisfies $langle Phi(v),wrangle = langle v,Phi^*(w)rangle$ (this map exists, since our vector space is $2$-dimensional). Whether $Phi$ and $Phi^*$ commute does not depend on the choice of the orthonormal basis. If there is an orthogonal basis of $mathbb C^2$, such that the transformation matrix of $Phi$ has diagonal form, then $Phi$ will automatically commute with $Phi^*$ (since the transformation matrix of $Phi^*$ wrt to this basis is just the conjugate-transpose). So if $A$ is diagonalizable over an orthogonal basis, then it is already normal.
In terms of matrices, if you conjugate $A$ to $U^*AU$, then the new matrix is normal if and only if the old one is: $(U^*AU)^* = U^* A^* U$, which commutes with $U^* A U $ iff $A$ commutes with $A^*$.
What you can do: conjugate with a non-unitarian matrix. This corresponds to chosing a possibly non-orthogonal basis. In your case, just take $S=(V_1|V_2)$, then $S^-1AS=D$, where $D=textdiag(a+ib+csqrted~,~a+ib-csqrted)$. Then $D$ is a normal matrix, since it is in diagonal form. This is what you called the "trivial way". Of course, you can find many normal matrices which are similar to $D$ and therefore similar to $A$. Just take any unitary matrix $U$ and consider
$$B=U^* S^-1 A S U = U^* D U$$
$B$ is still similar to $A$ (we only did a change of basis), but since we did a unitarian change of basis from $D$, the matrix $B$ is normal (since $D$ was normal).
Other coordinate changes then "change of basis" are not an appropriate tool to deal with when considering linear maps. They break the meaning of the transformation matrix.
Let's take another viewpoint on the matter: $A$ corresponds to a linear map $Phicolon mathbb C^2 to mathbb C^2, quad xmapsto Ax$.
Conjugating $A$ with some unitary matrix corresponds to a change of basis from the standard basis to another orthogonal basis of $mathbb C^2$.
Being normal can be expressed in terms of $Phi$, it means that $Phi^*$ and $Phi$ commute, where $Phi^* colon mathbb C^2 to mathbb C^2$ is the unique linear map which satisfies $langle Phi(v),wrangle = langle v,Phi^*(w)rangle$ (this map exists, since our vector space is $2$-dimensional). Whether $Phi$ and $Phi^*$ commute does not depend on the choice of the orthonormal basis. If there is an orthogonal basis of $mathbb C^2$, such that the transformation matrix of $Phi$ has diagonal form, then $Phi$ will automatically commute with $Phi^*$ (since the transformation matrix of $Phi^*$ wrt to this basis is just the conjugate-transpose). So if $A$ is diagonalizable over an orthogonal basis, then it is already normal.
In terms of matrices, if you conjugate $A$ to $U^*AU$, then the new matrix is normal if and only if the old one is: $(U^*AU)^* = U^* A^* U$, which commutes with $U^* A U $ iff $A$ commutes with $A^*$.
What you can do: conjugate with a non-unitarian matrix. This corresponds to chosing a possibly non-orthogonal basis. In your case, just take $S=(V_1|V_2)$, then $S^-1AS=D$, where $D=textdiag(a+ib+csqrted~,~a+ib-csqrted)$. Then $D$ is a normal matrix, since it is in diagonal form. This is what you called the "trivial way". Of course, you can find many normal matrices which are similar to $D$ and therefore similar to $A$. Just take any unitary matrix $U$ and consider
$$B=U^* S^-1 A S U = U^* D U$$
$B$ is still similar to $A$ (we only did a change of basis), but since we did a unitarian change of basis from $D$, the matrix $B$ is normal (since $D$ was normal).
Other coordinate changes then "change of basis" are not an appropriate tool to deal with when considering linear maps. They break the meaning of the transformation matrix.
edited Aug 18 at 8:12
answered Aug 17 at 7:22
Babelfish
649115
649115
If I follow you (your last sentence of 2nd para), you're saying I need to start with A being normal? So that confirms my suspicion, which lead me to ask the question.
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 17 at 9:13
@ThatsRightJack If you start with a matrix $A$ and you want to conjugate $A$ with unitarian matrices to obtain a normal matrix, then $A$ has to be normal for you to be succesful, yes.
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:18
@ThatsRightJack If you allow conjugation with arbitrary invertible matrices, you may obtain a normal matrix from a non-normal matrix $A$, if $A$ has a full set of eigenvectors (see 3rd para).
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:19
@ThatsRightJack I started a chat room to discuss this further
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:44
I did some heavy editing on the question. I hope it's more clear. I guess my closing remarks circle back on the question. Your solution is clearly helpful in supporting that the basis change does not help. So I'm left wondering if an alternative approach is available or if I'm stuck with what I got...a non normal matrix
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 18 at 3:18
 |Â
show 1 more comment
If I follow you (your last sentence of 2nd para), you're saying I need to start with A being normal? So that confirms my suspicion, which lead me to ask the question.
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 17 at 9:13
@ThatsRightJack If you start with a matrix $A$ and you want to conjugate $A$ with unitarian matrices to obtain a normal matrix, then $A$ has to be normal for you to be succesful, yes.
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:18
@ThatsRightJack If you allow conjugation with arbitrary invertible matrices, you may obtain a normal matrix from a non-normal matrix $A$, if $A$ has a full set of eigenvectors (see 3rd para).
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:19
@ThatsRightJack I started a chat room to discuss this further
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:44
I did some heavy editing on the question. I hope it's more clear. I guess my closing remarks circle back on the question. Your solution is clearly helpful in supporting that the basis change does not help. So I'm left wondering if an alternative approach is available or if I'm stuck with what I got...a non normal matrix
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 18 at 3:18
If I follow you (your last sentence of 2nd para), you're saying I need to start with A being normal? So that confirms my suspicion, which lead me to ask the question.
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 17 at 9:13
If I follow you (your last sentence of 2nd para), you're saying I need to start with A being normal? So that confirms my suspicion, which lead me to ask the question.
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 17 at 9:13
@ThatsRightJack If you start with a matrix $A$ and you want to conjugate $A$ with unitarian matrices to obtain a normal matrix, then $A$ has to be normal for you to be succesful, yes.
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:18
@ThatsRightJack If you start with a matrix $A$ and you want to conjugate $A$ with unitarian matrices to obtain a normal matrix, then $A$ has to be normal for you to be succesful, yes.
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:18
@ThatsRightJack If you allow conjugation with arbitrary invertible matrices, you may obtain a normal matrix from a non-normal matrix $A$, if $A$ has a full set of eigenvectors (see 3rd para).
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:19
@ThatsRightJack If you allow conjugation with arbitrary invertible matrices, you may obtain a normal matrix from a non-normal matrix $A$, if $A$ has a full set of eigenvectors (see 3rd para).
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:19
@ThatsRightJack I started a chat room to discuss this further
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:44
@ThatsRightJack I started a chat room to discuss this further
â Babelfish
Aug 17 at 9:44
I did some heavy editing on the question. I hope it's more clear. I guess my closing remarks circle back on the question. Your solution is clearly helpful in supporting that the basis change does not help. So I'm left wondering if an alternative approach is available or if I'm stuck with what I got...a non normal matrix
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 18 at 3:18
I did some heavy editing on the question. I hope it's more clear. I guess my closing remarks circle back on the question. Your solution is clearly helpful in supporting that the basis change does not help. So I'm left wondering if an alternative approach is available or if I'm stuck with what I got...a non normal matrix
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 18 at 3:18
 |Â
show 1 more comment
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2885450%2fcan-you-convert-a-non-normal-complex-square-matrix-into-a-normal-one%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Depends what you mean by "transform". You can always just replace it with the identity matrix, but you probably don't want to. Anyway, if $A$ is normal, then so is every matrix similar to $A$, so changing basis won't get you anywhere.
â Gerry Myerson
Aug 17 at 7:19
Linear transform Ax = b. If I follow what you're saying then A would have had to been normal to begin with yeah? If that is the case, is there anything I can do to make it so?
â ThatsRightJack
Aug 17 at 8:55