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I am a little bit confused what $$|-sin t + cos t|$$ is.



I heard that is $1$ but I thought $sin t + cos t$ was $1$.



Is it just that the progression of $t$ is reversed and the size stays the same?



What if the absolute sign is removed? Does it still stay $1$?



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Well, they are vectors and the question is asking about the length of the vector. So the length is 1 no matter what the signs are.










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  • Perhaps you misremembered $sin^2 t+cos^2t = 1$?
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    Alt. hint: $;|-sin t + cos t|^2 = sin^2 t + cos^2 t - 2 sin t cos t = 1 - sin 2t,$.
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  • @Nosrati Not sure I'd call this question a duplicate, since it is a particular case that allows for simpler answers that don't work in the general case, see my previous comment for example.
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I am a little bit confused what $$|-sin t + cos t|$$ is.



I heard that is $1$ but I thought $sin t + cos t$ was $1$.



Is it just that the progression of $t$ is reversed and the size stays the same?



What if the absolute sign is removed? Does it still stay $1$?



----edit----
Well, they are vectors and the question is asking about the length of the vector. So the length is 1 no matter what the signs are.










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marked as duplicate by Nosrati, Lord Shark the Unknown, Adrian Keister, amWhy, José Carlos Santos Sep 1 at 17:28


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  • Perhaps you misremembered $sin^2 t+cos^2t = 1$?
    – kimchi lover
    Sep 1 at 2:07






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    Alt. hint: $;|-sin t + cos t|^2 = sin^2 t + cos^2 t - 2 sin t cos t = 1 - sin 2t,$.
    – dxiv
    Sep 1 at 2:37










  • @Nosrati Not sure I'd call this question a duplicate, since it is a particular case that allows for simpler answers that don't work in the general case, see my previous comment for example.
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I am a little bit confused what $$|-sin t + cos t|$$ is.



I heard that is $1$ but I thought $sin t + cos t$ was $1$.



Is it just that the progression of $t$ is reversed and the size stays the same?



What if the absolute sign is removed? Does it still stay $1$?



----edit----
Well, they are vectors and the question is asking about the length of the vector. So the length is 1 no matter what the signs are.










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  • Prove: $|asin x+b cos x|leq sqrta^2+b^2$

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I am a little bit confused what $$|-sin t + cos t|$$ is.



I heard that is $1$ but I thought $sin t + cos t$ was $1$.



Is it just that the progression of $t$ is reversed and the size stays the same?



What if the absolute sign is removed? Does it still stay $1$?



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Well, they are vectors and the question is asking about the length of the vector. So the length is 1 no matter what the signs are.





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  • Perhaps you misremembered $sin^2 t+cos^2t = 1$?
    – kimchi lover
    Sep 1 at 2:07






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    Alt. hint: $;|-sin t + cos t|^2 = sin^2 t + cos^2 t - 2 sin t cos t = 1 - sin 2t,$.
    – dxiv
    Sep 1 at 2:37










  • @Nosrati Not sure I'd call this question a duplicate, since it is a particular case that allows for simpler answers that don't work in the general case, see my previous comment for example.
    – dxiv
    Sep 1 at 2:38

















  • Perhaps you misremembered $sin^2 t+cos^2t = 1$?
    – kimchi lover
    Sep 1 at 2:07






  • 1




    Alt. hint: $;|-sin t + cos t|^2 = sin^2 t + cos^2 t - 2 sin t cos t = 1 - sin 2t,$.
    – dxiv
    Sep 1 at 2:37










  • @Nosrati Not sure I'd call this question a duplicate, since it is a particular case that allows for simpler answers that don't work in the general case, see my previous comment for example.
    – dxiv
    Sep 1 at 2:38
















Perhaps you misremembered $sin^2 t+cos^2t = 1$?
– kimchi lover
Sep 1 at 2:07




Perhaps you misremembered $sin^2 t+cos^2t = 1$?
– kimchi lover
Sep 1 at 2:07




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Alt. hint: $;|-sin t + cos t|^2 = sin^2 t + cos^2 t - 2 sin t cos t = 1 - sin 2t,$.
– dxiv
Sep 1 at 2:37




Alt. hint: $;|-sin t + cos t|^2 = sin^2 t + cos^2 t - 2 sin t cos t = 1 - sin 2t,$.
– dxiv
Sep 1 at 2:37












@Nosrati Not sure I'd call this question a duplicate, since it is a particular case that allows for simpler answers that don't work in the general case, see my previous comment for example.
– dxiv
Sep 1 at 2:38





@Nosrati Not sure I'd call this question a duplicate, since it is a particular case that allows for simpler answers that don't work in the general case, see my previous comment for example.
– dxiv
Sep 1 at 2:38











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Notice that $cos t - sin t$ can be written in the form of $c sin (t + alpha)$ where $c =sqrt1^2+(-1)^2=sqrt2$ by using R-formula. The magnitude is not a constant as shown from a graph. For the first graph, it takes value from $0$ to $sqrt2$.



Similarly for $sin t + cos t$, it is not a constant.






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    If you know the following special case of the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, you get immediately the maximum value of your function:



    • For two real vectors $x= beginpmatrixx_1 \ x_2 endpmatrix$, $y= beginpmatrixy_1 \ y_2 endpmatrix$ it holds:
      $$| x cdot y |^2 = | x_1 y_1 + x_2 y_2 |^2 leq (x_1^2+x_2^2)(y_1^2+y_2^2)$$

    • In addition, you have equality if and only if one of the vectors is a multiple of the other one.

    All together:
    $$|-sin t + cos t|^2 = | -1cdotsin t + 1 cdot cos t |^2 leq ((-1)^2 + 1^2)(sin^2 t + cos^2 t)= 2$$
    Equality is reached, if $-sin t = cos t$, which happens, for example, at $t =-fracpi4$. So,
    $$boxed$$






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      Note:



      $sin (t -π/4)=$



      $ sin t cos π/4 -cos t sin π/4=$



      $(1/2)√2(sin t -cos t)$.



      Hence



      $|sin t -cos t|= √2|sin(t-π/4)| le √2cdot 1 =√2$.



      Used: $cos π/4 = sin π/4= (1/2)√2$,
      and
      $sin (a+b) = sin a cos b+ sin b cos a$.






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        Notice that $cos t - sin t$ can be written in the form of $c sin (t + alpha)$ where $c =sqrt1^2+(-1)^2=sqrt2$ by using R-formula. The magnitude is not a constant as shown from a graph. For the first graph, it takes value from $0$ to $sqrt2$.



        Similarly for $sin t + cos t$, it is not a constant.






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          Notice that $cos t - sin t$ can be written in the form of $c sin (t + alpha)$ where $c =sqrt1^2+(-1)^2=sqrt2$ by using R-formula. The magnitude is not a constant as shown from a graph. For the first graph, it takes value from $0$ to $sqrt2$.



          Similarly for $sin t + cos t$, it is not a constant.






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            Notice that $cos t - sin t$ can be written in the form of $c sin (t + alpha)$ where $c =sqrt1^2+(-1)^2=sqrt2$ by using R-formula. The magnitude is not a constant as shown from a graph. For the first graph, it takes value from $0$ to $sqrt2$.



            Similarly for $sin t + cos t$, it is not a constant.






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            Notice that $cos t - sin t$ can be written in the form of $c sin (t + alpha)$ where $c =sqrt1^2+(-1)^2=sqrt2$ by using R-formula. The magnitude is not a constant as shown from a graph. For the first graph, it takes value from $0$ to $sqrt2$.



            Similarly for $sin t + cos t$, it is not a constant.







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                If you know the following special case of the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, you get immediately the maximum value of your function:



                • For two real vectors $x= beginpmatrixx_1 \ x_2 endpmatrix$, $y= beginpmatrixy_1 \ y_2 endpmatrix$ it holds:
                  $$| x cdot y |^2 = | x_1 y_1 + x_2 y_2 |^2 leq (x_1^2+x_2^2)(y_1^2+y_2^2)$$

                • In addition, you have equality if and only if one of the vectors is a multiple of the other one.

                All together:
                $$|-sin t + cos t|^2 = | -1cdotsin t + 1 cdot cos t |^2 leq ((-1)^2 + 1^2)(sin^2 t + cos^2 t)= 2$$
                Equality is reached, if $-sin t = cos t$, which happens, for example, at $t =-fracpi4$. So,
                $$boxed$$






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                  If you know the following special case of the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, you get immediately the maximum value of your function:



                  • For two real vectors $x= beginpmatrixx_1 \ x_2 endpmatrix$, $y= beginpmatrixy_1 \ y_2 endpmatrix$ it holds:
                    $$| x cdot y |^2 = | x_1 y_1 + x_2 y_2 |^2 leq (x_1^2+x_2^2)(y_1^2+y_2^2)$$

                  • In addition, you have equality if and only if one of the vectors is a multiple of the other one.

                  All together:
                  $$|-sin t + cos t|^2 = | -1cdotsin t + 1 cdot cos t |^2 leq ((-1)^2 + 1^2)(sin^2 t + cos^2 t)= 2$$
                  Equality is reached, if $-sin t = cos t$, which happens, for example, at $t =-fracpi4$. So,
                  $$boxed$$






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                    If you know the following special case of the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, you get immediately the maximum value of your function:



                    • For two real vectors $x= beginpmatrixx_1 \ x_2 endpmatrix$, $y= beginpmatrixy_1 \ y_2 endpmatrix$ it holds:
                      $$| x cdot y |^2 = | x_1 y_1 + x_2 y_2 |^2 leq (x_1^2+x_2^2)(y_1^2+y_2^2)$$

                    • In addition, you have equality if and only if one of the vectors is a multiple of the other one.

                    All together:
                    $$|-sin t + cos t|^2 = | -1cdotsin t + 1 cdot cos t |^2 leq ((-1)^2 + 1^2)(sin^2 t + cos^2 t)= 2$$
                    Equality is reached, if $-sin t = cos t$, which happens, for example, at $t =-fracpi4$. So,
                    $$boxed$$






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                    If you know the following special case of the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, you get immediately the maximum value of your function:



                    • For two real vectors $x= beginpmatrixx_1 \ x_2 endpmatrix$, $y= beginpmatrixy_1 \ y_2 endpmatrix$ it holds:
                      $$| x cdot y |^2 = | x_1 y_1 + x_2 y_2 |^2 leq (x_1^2+x_2^2)(y_1^2+y_2^2)$$

                    • In addition, you have equality if and only if one of the vectors is a multiple of the other one.

                    All together:
                    $$|-sin t + cos t|^2 = | -1cdotsin t + 1 cdot cos t |^2 leq ((-1)^2 + 1^2)(sin^2 t + cos^2 t)= 2$$
                    Equality is reached, if $-sin t = cos t$, which happens, for example, at $t =-fracpi4$. So,
                    $$boxed$$







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                        Note:



                        $sin (t -π/4)=$



                        $ sin t cos π/4 -cos t sin π/4=$



                        $(1/2)√2(sin t -cos t)$.



                        Hence



                        $|sin t -cos t|= √2|sin(t-π/4)| le √2cdot 1 =√2$.



                        Used: $cos π/4 = sin π/4= (1/2)√2$,
                        and
                        $sin (a+b) = sin a cos b+ sin b cos a$.






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                          Note:



                          $sin (t -π/4)=$



                          $ sin t cos π/4 -cos t sin π/4=$



                          $(1/2)√2(sin t -cos t)$.



                          Hence



                          $|sin t -cos t|= √2|sin(t-π/4)| le √2cdot 1 =√2$.



                          Used: $cos π/4 = sin π/4= (1/2)√2$,
                          and
                          $sin (a+b) = sin a cos b+ sin b cos a$.






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                            Note:



                            $sin (t -π/4)=$



                            $ sin t cos π/4 -cos t sin π/4=$



                            $(1/2)√2(sin t -cos t)$.



                            Hence



                            $|sin t -cos t|= √2|sin(t-π/4)| le √2cdot 1 =√2$.



                            Used: $cos π/4 = sin π/4= (1/2)√2$,
                            and
                            $sin (a+b) = sin a cos b+ sin b cos a$.






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                            Note:



                            $sin (t -π/4)=$



                            $ sin t cos π/4 -cos t sin π/4=$



                            $(1/2)√2(sin t -cos t)$.



                            Hence



                            $|sin t -cos t|= √2|sin(t-π/4)| le √2cdot 1 =√2$.



                            Used: $cos π/4 = sin π/4= (1/2)√2$,
                            and
                            $sin (a+b) = sin a cos b+ sin b cos a$.







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