Let $h:I to I$ be a bijection. Then $prodlimits_iin IA_i$ and $prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$ are equinumerous

The name of the pictureThe name of the pictureThe name of the pictureClash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP











up vote
0
down vote

favorite












I came up with this theorem since the proof of $I$ is infinite, $A_k$ is countably infinite, and $A_i$ is countable for all $i neq k$. Is $prodlimits_iin IA_i$ countable? is realated to the rearrangement of $A_i$.



While I'm quite sure about the bijection, I'm not sure if my proof for its injection and surjection contains any error. I'm very happy If you can verify that part. Thank you so much!




The Cartesian product of a family $(A_imid iin I)$ is defined as $$prodlimits_iin IA_i=f:Itobigcup A_imid f(i)in A_i text for all i in I$$




Theorem: Let $h:I to I$ be a bijection. Then $prodlimits_iin IA_i$ and $prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$ are equinumerous.




Proof: Consider



$$begin
arrayl
G : & prodlimits_iin IA_i
& longrightarrow & prodlimits_iin IA_h(i) \
& phi & longmapsto & G(phi) endarray$$



where $phi:I to bigcup_iin IA_i$ such that $phi(i) in A_i$ for all $i in I$.



$G(phi)$ is defined by $G(phi)(i)=phi circ h(i)$ for all $i in I$.



  1. $G(phi) in prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$

Because $h:I to I$ is bijective, $h(i) in I$ for all $i in I$. Thus $phi circ h(i) in A_h(i)$ since $phi in prodlimits_iin IA_i$. It follows that $G(phi)(i) in A_h(i)$ for all $i in I$. Hence $G(phi) in prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$.



  1. $G$ is surjective

For $psi in prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$, define $phi$ by $phi(i)=psi circ h^-1(i)$ where $h^-1$ is the inverse mapping of $h$.



Then $psi:I to bigcup_i in IA_h(i)$ such that $psi(i) in A_h(i)$ for all $i in I$.



By definition, $phi(i)=psi circ h^-1(i) in A_h circ h^-1(i)=A_i$ for all $i in I$. Thus $phi in prodlimits_iin IA_i$.



By definition, $G(phi)(i) = phi circ h(i) = (psi circ h^-1) circ h(i) = psi circ (h^-1 circ h) (i) = psi(i)$ for all $i in I$.



Thus $G(phi)=psi$. Hence $G$ is surjective.



  1. $G$ is injective

For $phi_1,phi_2 in prodlimits_iin IA_i$ and $G(phi_1)=G(phi_2)$. Then $G(phi_1)(i)=G(phi_2)(i)$ for all $i in I$, then $phi_1 circ h(i) = phi_2 circ h(i)$ for all $i in I$.



Since $h:I to I$ is bijective, $phi_1 (i) =phi_1 circ h(i')$ and $phi_2 (i) =phi_2 circ h(i')$ for a unique $i' in I$. Since $phi_1 circ h(i') = phi_2 circ h(i')$ for all $i' in I$, $phi_1 (i) = phi_2 (i)$ for all $i in I$.



Thus $phi_1= phi_2$. Hence $G$ is injective.










share|cite|improve this question



























    up vote
    0
    down vote

    favorite












    I came up with this theorem since the proof of $I$ is infinite, $A_k$ is countably infinite, and $A_i$ is countable for all $i neq k$. Is $prodlimits_iin IA_i$ countable? is realated to the rearrangement of $A_i$.



    While I'm quite sure about the bijection, I'm not sure if my proof for its injection and surjection contains any error. I'm very happy If you can verify that part. Thank you so much!




    The Cartesian product of a family $(A_imid iin I)$ is defined as $$prodlimits_iin IA_i=f:Itobigcup A_imid f(i)in A_i text for all i in I$$




    Theorem: Let $h:I to I$ be a bijection. Then $prodlimits_iin IA_i$ and $prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$ are equinumerous.




    Proof: Consider



    $$begin
    arrayl
    G : & prodlimits_iin IA_i
    & longrightarrow & prodlimits_iin IA_h(i) \
    & phi & longmapsto & G(phi) endarray$$



    where $phi:I to bigcup_iin IA_i$ such that $phi(i) in A_i$ for all $i in I$.



    $G(phi)$ is defined by $G(phi)(i)=phi circ h(i)$ for all $i in I$.



    1. $G(phi) in prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$

    Because $h:I to I$ is bijective, $h(i) in I$ for all $i in I$. Thus $phi circ h(i) in A_h(i)$ since $phi in prodlimits_iin IA_i$. It follows that $G(phi)(i) in A_h(i)$ for all $i in I$. Hence $G(phi) in prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$.



    1. $G$ is surjective

    For $psi in prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$, define $phi$ by $phi(i)=psi circ h^-1(i)$ where $h^-1$ is the inverse mapping of $h$.



    Then $psi:I to bigcup_i in IA_h(i)$ such that $psi(i) in A_h(i)$ for all $i in I$.



    By definition, $phi(i)=psi circ h^-1(i) in A_h circ h^-1(i)=A_i$ for all $i in I$. Thus $phi in prodlimits_iin IA_i$.



    By definition, $G(phi)(i) = phi circ h(i) = (psi circ h^-1) circ h(i) = psi circ (h^-1 circ h) (i) = psi(i)$ for all $i in I$.



    Thus $G(phi)=psi$. Hence $G$ is surjective.



    1. $G$ is injective

    For $phi_1,phi_2 in prodlimits_iin IA_i$ and $G(phi_1)=G(phi_2)$. Then $G(phi_1)(i)=G(phi_2)(i)$ for all $i in I$, then $phi_1 circ h(i) = phi_2 circ h(i)$ for all $i in I$.



    Since $h:I to I$ is bijective, $phi_1 (i) =phi_1 circ h(i')$ and $phi_2 (i) =phi_2 circ h(i')$ for a unique $i' in I$. Since $phi_1 circ h(i') = phi_2 circ h(i')$ for all $i' in I$, $phi_1 (i) = phi_2 (i)$ for all $i in I$.



    Thus $phi_1= phi_2$. Hence $G$ is injective.










    share|cite|improve this question

























      up vote
      0
      down vote

      favorite









      up vote
      0
      down vote

      favorite











      I came up with this theorem since the proof of $I$ is infinite, $A_k$ is countably infinite, and $A_i$ is countable for all $i neq k$. Is $prodlimits_iin IA_i$ countable? is realated to the rearrangement of $A_i$.



      While I'm quite sure about the bijection, I'm not sure if my proof for its injection and surjection contains any error. I'm very happy If you can verify that part. Thank you so much!




      The Cartesian product of a family $(A_imid iin I)$ is defined as $$prodlimits_iin IA_i=f:Itobigcup A_imid f(i)in A_i text for all i in I$$




      Theorem: Let $h:I to I$ be a bijection. Then $prodlimits_iin IA_i$ and $prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$ are equinumerous.




      Proof: Consider



      $$begin
      arrayl
      G : & prodlimits_iin IA_i
      & longrightarrow & prodlimits_iin IA_h(i) \
      & phi & longmapsto & G(phi) endarray$$



      where $phi:I to bigcup_iin IA_i$ such that $phi(i) in A_i$ for all $i in I$.



      $G(phi)$ is defined by $G(phi)(i)=phi circ h(i)$ for all $i in I$.



      1. $G(phi) in prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$

      Because $h:I to I$ is bijective, $h(i) in I$ for all $i in I$. Thus $phi circ h(i) in A_h(i)$ since $phi in prodlimits_iin IA_i$. It follows that $G(phi)(i) in A_h(i)$ for all $i in I$. Hence $G(phi) in prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$.



      1. $G$ is surjective

      For $psi in prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$, define $phi$ by $phi(i)=psi circ h^-1(i)$ where $h^-1$ is the inverse mapping of $h$.



      Then $psi:I to bigcup_i in IA_h(i)$ such that $psi(i) in A_h(i)$ for all $i in I$.



      By definition, $phi(i)=psi circ h^-1(i) in A_h circ h^-1(i)=A_i$ for all $i in I$. Thus $phi in prodlimits_iin IA_i$.



      By definition, $G(phi)(i) = phi circ h(i) = (psi circ h^-1) circ h(i) = psi circ (h^-1 circ h) (i) = psi(i)$ for all $i in I$.



      Thus $G(phi)=psi$. Hence $G$ is surjective.



      1. $G$ is injective

      For $phi_1,phi_2 in prodlimits_iin IA_i$ and $G(phi_1)=G(phi_2)$. Then $G(phi_1)(i)=G(phi_2)(i)$ for all $i in I$, then $phi_1 circ h(i) = phi_2 circ h(i)$ for all $i in I$.



      Since $h:I to I$ is bijective, $phi_1 (i) =phi_1 circ h(i')$ and $phi_2 (i) =phi_2 circ h(i')$ for a unique $i' in I$. Since $phi_1 circ h(i') = phi_2 circ h(i')$ for all $i' in I$, $phi_1 (i) = phi_2 (i)$ for all $i in I$.



      Thus $phi_1= phi_2$. Hence $G$ is injective.










      share|cite|improve this question















      I came up with this theorem since the proof of $I$ is infinite, $A_k$ is countably infinite, and $A_i$ is countable for all $i neq k$. Is $prodlimits_iin IA_i$ countable? is realated to the rearrangement of $A_i$.



      While I'm quite sure about the bijection, I'm not sure if my proof for its injection and surjection contains any error. I'm very happy If you can verify that part. Thank you so much!




      The Cartesian product of a family $(A_imid iin I)$ is defined as $$prodlimits_iin IA_i=f:Itobigcup A_imid f(i)in A_i text for all i in I$$




      Theorem: Let $h:I to I$ be a bijection. Then $prodlimits_iin IA_i$ and $prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$ are equinumerous.




      Proof: Consider



      $$begin
      arrayl
      G : & prodlimits_iin IA_i
      & longrightarrow & prodlimits_iin IA_h(i) \
      & phi & longmapsto & G(phi) endarray$$



      where $phi:I to bigcup_iin IA_i$ such that $phi(i) in A_i$ for all $i in I$.



      $G(phi)$ is defined by $G(phi)(i)=phi circ h(i)$ for all $i in I$.



      1. $G(phi) in prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$

      Because $h:I to I$ is bijective, $h(i) in I$ for all $i in I$. Thus $phi circ h(i) in A_h(i)$ since $phi in prodlimits_iin IA_i$. It follows that $G(phi)(i) in A_h(i)$ for all $i in I$. Hence $G(phi) in prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$.



      1. $G$ is surjective

      For $psi in prodlimits_iin IA_h(i)$, define $phi$ by $phi(i)=psi circ h^-1(i)$ where $h^-1$ is the inverse mapping of $h$.



      Then $psi:I to bigcup_i in IA_h(i)$ such that $psi(i) in A_h(i)$ for all $i in I$.



      By definition, $phi(i)=psi circ h^-1(i) in A_h circ h^-1(i)=A_i$ for all $i in I$. Thus $phi in prodlimits_iin IA_i$.



      By definition, $G(phi)(i) = phi circ h(i) = (psi circ h^-1) circ h(i) = psi circ (h^-1 circ h) (i) = psi(i)$ for all $i in I$.



      Thus $G(phi)=psi$. Hence $G$ is surjective.



      1. $G$ is injective

      For $phi_1,phi_2 in prodlimits_iin IA_i$ and $G(phi_1)=G(phi_2)$. Then $G(phi_1)(i)=G(phi_2)(i)$ for all $i in I$, then $phi_1 circ h(i) = phi_2 circ h(i)$ for all $i in I$.



      Since $h:I to I$ is bijective, $phi_1 (i) =phi_1 circ h(i')$ and $phi_2 (i) =phi_2 circ h(i')$ for a unique $i' in I$. Since $phi_1 circ h(i') = phi_2 circ h(i')$ for all $i' in I$, $phi_1 (i) = phi_2 (i)$ for all $i in I$.



      Thus $phi_1= phi_2$. Hence $G$ is injective.







      functions elementary-set-theory proof-verification






      share|cite|improve this question















      share|cite|improve this question













      share|cite|improve this question




      share|cite|improve this question








      edited Sep 1 at 8:55

























      asked Sep 1 at 2:09









      Le Anh Dung

      715419




      715419




















          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes

















          up vote
          1
          down vote



          accepted










          I agree with the proof in essence.



          If you're being this detailed, also check the well-definedness of your maps: check that $G(phi) in prod_i in I A_h(i)$ (using the definition of the Cartesian product that you also gave, please do use a capital C in honour of Descartes...) and also in the proof of surjectivity that the $phi$ you define is in $prod_i in I A_i$. It's a minor quibble though.



          Also you could spell out why $phi_1(h(i)) = phi_2(h(i))$ for all $i$ implies $phi_1(i) = phi_2(i)$ for all $i$ (namely because all $i in I$ are of the form $h(i')$ for some $i' in I$ etc.). I'd say if you're going detailed (i.e. all the gory details) also do these details.






          share|cite|improve this answer




















          • I have added all the detail you suggested :) Please have a look at and check these added parts! Thank you so much!
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 1 at 8:52










          • @LeAnhDung Looks OK. I'd write it up a bit differently but that's more of a style matter.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Sep 1 at 8:58










          • Many thanks for you ^_^
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 1 at 9:00










          • Hi @Henno I have asked a question at math.stackexchange.com/questions/2907522/… for several days, but have not received any answer. Could you please help me check it out?
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 11 at 23:50











          Your Answer




          StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function ()
          return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function ()
          StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix)
          StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
          );
          );
          , "mathjax-editing");

          StackExchange.ready(function()
          var channelOptions =
          tags: "".split(" "),
          id: "69"
          ;
          initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

          StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
          // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
          if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
          StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
          createEditor();
          );

          else
          createEditor();

          );

          function createEditor()
          StackExchange.prepareEditor(
          heartbeatType: 'answer',
          convertImagesToLinks: true,
          noModals: false,
          showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
          reputationToPostImages: 10,
          bindNavPrevention: true,
          postfix: "",
          noCode: true, onDemand: true,
          discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
          ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
          );



          );













           

          draft saved


          draft discarded


















          StackExchange.ready(
          function ()
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2901288%2flet-hi-to-i-be-a-bijection-then-prod-limits-i-in-ia-i-and-prod-limit%23new-answer', 'question_page');

          );

          Post as a guest






























          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes








          1 Answer
          1






          active

          oldest

          votes









          active

          oldest

          votes






          active

          oldest

          votes








          up vote
          1
          down vote



          accepted










          I agree with the proof in essence.



          If you're being this detailed, also check the well-definedness of your maps: check that $G(phi) in prod_i in I A_h(i)$ (using the definition of the Cartesian product that you also gave, please do use a capital C in honour of Descartes...) and also in the proof of surjectivity that the $phi$ you define is in $prod_i in I A_i$. It's a minor quibble though.



          Also you could spell out why $phi_1(h(i)) = phi_2(h(i))$ for all $i$ implies $phi_1(i) = phi_2(i)$ for all $i$ (namely because all $i in I$ are of the form $h(i')$ for some $i' in I$ etc.). I'd say if you're going detailed (i.e. all the gory details) also do these details.






          share|cite|improve this answer




















          • I have added all the detail you suggested :) Please have a look at and check these added parts! Thank you so much!
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 1 at 8:52










          • @LeAnhDung Looks OK. I'd write it up a bit differently but that's more of a style matter.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Sep 1 at 8:58










          • Many thanks for you ^_^
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 1 at 9:00










          • Hi @Henno I have asked a question at math.stackexchange.com/questions/2907522/… for several days, but have not received any answer. Could you please help me check it out?
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 11 at 23:50















          up vote
          1
          down vote



          accepted










          I agree with the proof in essence.



          If you're being this detailed, also check the well-definedness of your maps: check that $G(phi) in prod_i in I A_h(i)$ (using the definition of the Cartesian product that you also gave, please do use a capital C in honour of Descartes...) and also in the proof of surjectivity that the $phi$ you define is in $prod_i in I A_i$. It's a minor quibble though.



          Also you could spell out why $phi_1(h(i)) = phi_2(h(i))$ for all $i$ implies $phi_1(i) = phi_2(i)$ for all $i$ (namely because all $i in I$ are of the form $h(i')$ for some $i' in I$ etc.). I'd say if you're going detailed (i.e. all the gory details) also do these details.






          share|cite|improve this answer




















          • I have added all the detail you suggested :) Please have a look at and check these added parts! Thank you so much!
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 1 at 8:52










          • @LeAnhDung Looks OK. I'd write it up a bit differently but that's more of a style matter.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Sep 1 at 8:58










          • Many thanks for you ^_^
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 1 at 9:00










          • Hi @Henno I have asked a question at math.stackexchange.com/questions/2907522/… for several days, but have not received any answer. Could you please help me check it out?
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 11 at 23:50













          up vote
          1
          down vote



          accepted







          up vote
          1
          down vote



          accepted






          I agree with the proof in essence.



          If you're being this detailed, also check the well-definedness of your maps: check that $G(phi) in prod_i in I A_h(i)$ (using the definition of the Cartesian product that you also gave, please do use a capital C in honour of Descartes...) and also in the proof of surjectivity that the $phi$ you define is in $prod_i in I A_i$. It's a minor quibble though.



          Also you could spell out why $phi_1(h(i)) = phi_2(h(i))$ for all $i$ implies $phi_1(i) = phi_2(i)$ for all $i$ (namely because all $i in I$ are of the form $h(i')$ for some $i' in I$ etc.). I'd say if you're going detailed (i.e. all the gory details) also do these details.






          share|cite|improve this answer












          I agree with the proof in essence.



          If you're being this detailed, also check the well-definedness of your maps: check that $G(phi) in prod_i in I A_h(i)$ (using the definition of the Cartesian product that you also gave, please do use a capital C in honour of Descartes...) and also in the proof of surjectivity that the $phi$ you define is in $prod_i in I A_i$. It's a minor quibble though.



          Also you could spell out why $phi_1(h(i)) = phi_2(h(i))$ for all $i$ implies $phi_1(i) = phi_2(i)$ for all $i$ (namely because all $i in I$ are of the form $h(i')$ for some $i' in I$ etc.). I'd say if you're going detailed (i.e. all the gory details) also do these details.







          share|cite|improve this answer












          share|cite|improve this answer



          share|cite|improve this answer










          answered Sep 1 at 6:05









          Henno Brandsma

          93.3k342101




          93.3k342101











          • I have added all the detail you suggested :) Please have a look at and check these added parts! Thank you so much!
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 1 at 8:52










          • @LeAnhDung Looks OK. I'd write it up a bit differently but that's more of a style matter.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Sep 1 at 8:58










          • Many thanks for you ^_^
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 1 at 9:00










          • Hi @Henno I have asked a question at math.stackexchange.com/questions/2907522/… for several days, but have not received any answer. Could you please help me check it out?
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 11 at 23:50

















          • I have added all the detail you suggested :) Please have a look at and check these added parts! Thank you so much!
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 1 at 8:52










          • @LeAnhDung Looks OK. I'd write it up a bit differently but that's more of a style matter.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Sep 1 at 8:58










          • Many thanks for you ^_^
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 1 at 9:00










          • Hi @Henno I have asked a question at math.stackexchange.com/questions/2907522/… for several days, but have not received any answer. Could you please help me check it out?
            – Le Anh Dung
            Sep 11 at 23:50
















          I have added all the detail you suggested :) Please have a look at and check these added parts! Thank you so much!
          – Le Anh Dung
          Sep 1 at 8:52




          I have added all the detail you suggested :) Please have a look at and check these added parts! Thank you so much!
          – Le Anh Dung
          Sep 1 at 8:52












          @LeAnhDung Looks OK. I'd write it up a bit differently but that's more of a style matter.
          – Henno Brandsma
          Sep 1 at 8:58




          @LeAnhDung Looks OK. I'd write it up a bit differently but that's more of a style matter.
          – Henno Brandsma
          Sep 1 at 8:58












          Many thanks for you ^_^
          – Le Anh Dung
          Sep 1 at 9:00




          Many thanks for you ^_^
          – Le Anh Dung
          Sep 1 at 9:00












          Hi @Henno I have asked a question at math.stackexchange.com/questions/2907522/… for several days, but have not received any answer. Could you please help me check it out?
          – Le Anh Dung
          Sep 11 at 23:50





          Hi @Henno I have asked a question at math.stackexchange.com/questions/2907522/… for several days, but have not received any answer. Could you please help me check it out?
          – Le Anh Dung
          Sep 11 at 23:50


















           

          draft saved


          draft discarded















































           


          draft saved


          draft discarded














          StackExchange.ready(
          function ()
          StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2901288%2flet-hi-to-i-be-a-bijection-then-prod-limits-i-in-ia-i-and-prod-limit%23new-answer', 'question_page');

          );

          Post as a guest













































































          這個網誌中的熱門文章

          tkz-euclide: tkzDrawCircle[R] not working

          How to combine Bézier curves to a surface?

          1st Magritte Awards