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In the following notes: http://www.math.toronto.edu/mgualt/courses/MAT1300F-2016/docs/1300-2016-notes-5.pdf
during the proof of proposition 3.2, why is the $ker(Df(p))=T_pK$ ?
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In the following notes: http://www.math.toronto.edu/mgualt/courses/MAT1300F-2016/docs/1300-2016-notes-5.pdf
during the proof of proposition 3.2, why is the $ker(Df(p))=T_pK$ ?
differential-geometry differential-topology smooth-manifolds
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In the following notes: http://www.math.toronto.edu/mgualt/courses/MAT1300F-2016/docs/1300-2016-notes-5.pdf
during the proof of proposition 3.2, why is the $ker(Df(p))=T_pK$ ?
differential-geometry differential-topology smooth-manifolds
In the following notes: http://www.math.toronto.edu/mgualt/courses/MAT1300F-2016/docs/1300-2016-notes-5.pdf
during the proof of proposition 3.2, why is the $ker(Df(p))=T_pK$ ?
differential-geometry differential-topology smooth-manifolds
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The vectors in $T_p K$ are the vectors at $p$ which are tangent to $K$. In the proof, $K$ is assumed to be (locally) a level set of the function $f$, meaning the function $f$ is constant along $K$. If you take a vector $v$ based at $p$, it represents a "directional derivative" operator on functions. Specifically, for a function $g$, you have $v , g = Dg cdot v$. If that vector happens to be in $T_p K$, it means it is a directional derivative in a direction tangent to $K$. Again, $f$ is constant along $K$, so the directional derivatives in these directions (tangent to $K$) should intuitively be zero when applied to $f$. This means $v in T_p K$ should be in the kernel of $Df$.
The claim $v , g = Dg cdot v$ makes no sense because $v , g in mathbbR$ is a number whereas $ Dg cdot v in T_g(p)mathbbR $ is an operator.
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Feb 15 '17 at 8:27
The tangent space to $BbbR$ can naturally be identified with $BbbR$ itself.
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Don't you think the identification should be made more explicit, without abuse of notation?
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First the relevant part of the setup from Theorem 3.2:
$M$ is a $n$-dimensional smooth manifold and $K$ is a regular sub-manifold of co-dimension $k$. The sub-manifold $K$ is the level-set of a regular function $f:Mrightarrow N$ with constant rank mapping in some other smooth manifold $N$.
An answer to your question fitting into the linked lecture (see Definition 2.11 and Proposition 2.12):
There are charts $(varphi,U),(psi,V)$ with $Usubset M$ and $Vsubset N$ in which $varphi(U)$ is an open subset $Omega$ of $mathbbR^n$, $varphi(Kcap U)$ is the intersection of $Omega$ with the subspace spanned by the first $n-k$ vectors of the canonical basis, i.e., $mathbbR^(n-k)times0^k$, and $f$ is essentially the local projection onto the last $k$ components of its mapped argument, i.e., $psicirc f circ varphi^-1: (x_1,ldots,x_n)mapsto (0,ldots,0,x_n-k+1,ldots,x_n)$.
In this coordinates the spaces $T_p K$ and $ker(D f(p))$ are both trivially equal to the subspace $mathbbR^(n-k)times 0^k$.
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The vectors in $T_p K$ are the vectors at $p$ which are tangent to $K$. In the proof, $K$ is assumed to be (locally) a level set of the function $f$, meaning the function $f$ is constant along $K$. If you take a vector $v$ based at $p$, it represents a "directional derivative" operator on functions. Specifically, for a function $g$, you have $v , g = Dg cdot v$. If that vector happens to be in $T_p K$, it means it is a directional derivative in a direction tangent to $K$. Again, $f$ is constant along $K$, so the directional derivatives in these directions (tangent to $K$) should intuitively be zero when applied to $f$. This means $v in T_p K$ should be in the kernel of $Df$.
The claim $v , g = Dg cdot v$ makes no sense because $v , g in mathbbR$ is a number whereas $ Dg cdot v in T_g(p)mathbbR $ is an operator.
â Nanashi No Gombe
Feb 15 '17 at 8:27
The tangent space to $BbbR$ can naturally be identified with $BbbR$ itself.
â Nick
Feb 16 '17 at 14:32
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Don't you think the identification should be made more explicit, without abuse of notation?
â Nanashi No Gombe
Feb 16 '17 at 15:07
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The vectors in $T_p K$ are the vectors at $p$ which are tangent to $K$. In the proof, $K$ is assumed to be (locally) a level set of the function $f$, meaning the function $f$ is constant along $K$. If you take a vector $v$ based at $p$, it represents a "directional derivative" operator on functions. Specifically, for a function $g$, you have $v , g = Dg cdot v$. If that vector happens to be in $T_p K$, it means it is a directional derivative in a direction tangent to $K$. Again, $f$ is constant along $K$, so the directional derivatives in these directions (tangent to $K$) should intuitively be zero when applied to $f$. This means $v in T_p K$ should be in the kernel of $Df$.
The claim $v , g = Dg cdot v$ makes no sense because $v , g in mathbbR$ is a number whereas $ Dg cdot v in T_g(p)mathbbR $ is an operator.
â Nanashi No Gombe
Feb 15 '17 at 8:27
The tangent space to $BbbR$ can naturally be identified with $BbbR$ itself.
â Nick
Feb 16 '17 at 14:32
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Don't you think the identification should be made more explicit, without abuse of notation?
â Nanashi No Gombe
Feb 16 '17 at 15:07
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The vectors in $T_p K$ are the vectors at $p$ which are tangent to $K$. In the proof, $K$ is assumed to be (locally) a level set of the function $f$, meaning the function $f$ is constant along $K$. If you take a vector $v$ based at $p$, it represents a "directional derivative" operator on functions. Specifically, for a function $g$, you have $v , g = Dg cdot v$. If that vector happens to be in $T_p K$, it means it is a directional derivative in a direction tangent to $K$. Again, $f$ is constant along $K$, so the directional derivatives in these directions (tangent to $K$) should intuitively be zero when applied to $f$. This means $v in T_p K$ should be in the kernel of $Df$.
The vectors in $T_p K$ are the vectors at $p$ which are tangent to $K$. In the proof, $K$ is assumed to be (locally) a level set of the function $f$, meaning the function $f$ is constant along $K$. If you take a vector $v$ based at $p$, it represents a "directional derivative" operator on functions. Specifically, for a function $g$, you have $v , g = Dg cdot v$. If that vector happens to be in $T_p K$, it means it is a directional derivative in a direction tangent to $K$. Again, $f$ is constant along $K$, so the directional derivatives in these directions (tangent to $K$) should intuitively be zero when applied to $f$. This means $v in T_p K$ should be in the kernel of $Df$.
answered Nov 3 '16 at 0:22
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The claim $v , g = Dg cdot v$ makes no sense because $v , g in mathbbR$ is a number whereas $ Dg cdot v in T_g(p)mathbbR $ is an operator.
â Nanashi No Gombe
Feb 15 '17 at 8:27
The tangent space to $BbbR$ can naturally be identified with $BbbR$ itself.
â Nick
Feb 16 '17 at 14:32
1
Don't you think the identification should be made more explicit, without abuse of notation?
â Nanashi No Gombe
Feb 16 '17 at 15:07
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The claim $v , g = Dg cdot v$ makes no sense because $v , g in mathbbR$ is a number whereas $ Dg cdot v in T_g(p)mathbbR $ is an operator.
â Nanashi No Gombe
Feb 15 '17 at 8:27
The tangent space to $BbbR$ can naturally be identified with $BbbR$ itself.
â Nick
Feb 16 '17 at 14:32
1
Don't you think the identification should be made more explicit, without abuse of notation?
â Nanashi No Gombe
Feb 16 '17 at 15:07
The claim $v , g = Dg cdot v$ makes no sense because $v , g in mathbbR$ is a number whereas $ Dg cdot v in T_g(p)mathbbR $ is an operator.
â Nanashi No Gombe
Feb 15 '17 at 8:27
The claim $v , g = Dg cdot v$ makes no sense because $v , g in mathbbR$ is a number whereas $ Dg cdot v in T_g(p)mathbbR $ is an operator.
â Nanashi No Gombe
Feb 15 '17 at 8:27
The tangent space to $BbbR$ can naturally be identified with $BbbR$ itself.
â Nick
Feb 16 '17 at 14:32
The tangent space to $BbbR$ can naturally be identified with $BbbR$ itself.
â Nick
Feb 16 '17 at 14:32
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Don't you think the identification should be made more explicit, without abuse of notation?
â Nanashi No Gombe
Feb 16 '17 at 15:07
Don't you think the identification should be made more explicit, without abuse of notation?
â Nanashi No Gombe
Feb 16 '17 at 15:07
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First the relevant part of the setup from Theorem 3.2:
$M$ is a $n$-dimensional smooth manifold and $K$ is a regular sub-manifold of co-dimension $k$. The sub-manifold $K$ is the level-set of a regular function $f:Mrightarrow N$ with constant rank mapping in some other smooth manifold $N$.
An answer to your question fitting into the linked lecture (see Definition 2.11 and Proposition 2.12):
There are charts $(varphi,U),(psi,V)$ with $Usubset M$ and $Vsubset N$ in which $varphi(U)$ is an open subset $Omega$ of $mathbbR^n$, $varphi(Kcap U)$ is the intersection of $Omega$ with the subspace spanned by the first $n-k$ vectors of the canonical basis, i.e., $mathbbR^(n-k)times0^k$, and $f$ is essentially the local projection onto the last $k$ components of its mapped argument, i.e., $psicirc f circ varphi^-1: (x_1,ldots,x_n)mapsto (0,ldots,0,x_n-k+1,ldots,x_n)$.
In this coordinates the spaces $T_p K$ and $ker(D f(p))$ are both trivially equal to the subspace $mathbbR^(n-k)times 0^k$.
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First the relevant part of the setup from Theorem 3.2:
$M$ is a $n$-dimensional smooth manifold and $K$ is a regular sub-manifold of co-dimension $k$. The sub-manifold $K$ is the level-set of a regular function $f:Mrightarrow N$ with constant rank mapping in some other smooth manifold $N$.
An answer to your question fitting into the linked lecture (see Definition 2.11 and Proposition 2.12):
There are charts $(varphi,U),(psi,V)$ with $Usubset M$ and $Vsubset N$ in which $varphi(U)$ is an open subset $Omega$ of $mathbbR^n$, $varphi(Kcap U)$ is the intersection of $Omega$ with the subspace spanned by the first $n-k$ vectors of the canonical basis, i.e., $mathbbR^(n-k)times0^k$, and $f$ is essentially the local projection onto the last $k$ components of its mapped argument, i.e., $psicirc f circ varphi^-1: (x_1,ldots,x_n)mapsto (0,ldots,0,x_n-k+1,ldots,x_n)$.
In this coordinates the spaces $T_p K$ and $ker(D f(p))$ are both trivially equal to the subspace $mathbbR^(n-k)times 0^k$.
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First the relevant part of the setup from Theorem 3.2:
$M$ is a $n$-dimensional smooth manifold and $K$ is a regular sub-manifold of co-dimension $k$. The sub-manifold $K$ is the level-set of a regular function $f:Mrightarrow N$ with constant rank mapping in some other smooth manifold $N$.
An answer to your question fitting into the linked lecture (see Definition 2.11 and Proposition 2.12):
There are charts $(varphi,U),(psi,V)$ with $Usubset M$ and $Vsubset N$ in which $varphi(U)$ is an open subset $Omega$ of $mathbbR^n$, $varphi(Kcap U)$ is the intersection of $Omega$ with the subspace spanned by the first $n-k$ vectors of the canonical basis, i.e., $mathbbR^(n-k)times0^k$, and $f$ is essentially the local projection onto the last $k$ components of its mapped argument, i.e., $psicirc f circ varphi^-1: (x_1,ldots,x_n)mapsto (0,ldots,0,x_n-k+1,ldots,x_n)$.
In this coordinates the spaces $T_p K$ and $ker(D f(p))$ are both trivially equal to the subspace $mathbbR^(n-k)times 0^k$.
First the relevant part of the setup from Theorem 3.2:
$M$ is a $n$-dimensional smooth manifold and $K$ is a regular sub-manifold of co-dimension $k$. The sub-manifold $K$ is the level-set of a regular function $f:Mrightarrow N$ with constant rank mapping in some other smooth manifold $N$.
An answer to your question fitting into the linked lecture (see Definition 2.11 and Proposition 2.12):
There are charts $(varphi,U),(psi,V)$ with $Usubset M$ and $Vsubset N$ in which $varphi(U)$ is an open subset $Omega$ of $mathbbR^n$, $varphi(Kcap U)$ is the intersection of $Omega$ with the subspace spanned by the first $n-k$ vectors of the canonical basis, i.e., $mathbbR^(n-k)times0^k$, and $f$ is essentially the local projection onto the last $k$ components of its mapped argument, i.e., $psicirc f circ varphi^-1: (x_1,ldots,x_n)mapsto (0,ldots,0,x_n-k+1,ldots,x_n)$.
In this coordinates the spaces $T_p K$ and $ker(D f(p))$ are both trivially equal to the subspace $mathbbR^(n-k)times 0^k$.
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