Proving $lim_ xto 0 sin frac2pi x$ does not exist
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Suppose there is some $L in mathbbR$ such that $lim_ xto 0 sin frac2pi x = L$. Then, if we let $varepsilon = 1$, there would exist $delta > 0$ such that $left| f(x) - Lright| < 1$ for all $0< |x| < delta $. Now, by the Archimedean property, there is $n in mathbbN$ such that $frac1n < delta $. Pick $x_1 = frac44n+1$ and $x_2 = frac44n+3$ and note that $x_1 , x_2 < delta $. Now for $x_1$, we have
$ left| f(x_1) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+1) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| 1-L right| < 1 $
And similarly
$ left| f(x_2) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+3) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| -1-L right| < 1 $
Thus, L is within one unit of both $-1$ and $1$. However, there cannot be any such number. A contradiction!
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Here's my attempt:
Suppose there is some $L in mathbbR$ such that $lim_ xto 0 sin frac2pi x = L$. Then, if we let $varepsilon = 1$, there would exist $delta > 0$ such that $left| f(x) - Lright| < 1$ for all $0< |x| < delta $. Now, by the Archimedean property, there is $n in mathbbN$ such that $frac1n < delta $. Pick $x_1 = frac44n+1$ and $x_2 = frac44n+3$ and note that $x_1 , x_2 < delta $. Now for $x_1$, we have
$ left| f(x_1) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+1) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| 1-L right| < 1 $
And similarly
$ left| f(x_2) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+3) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| -1-L right| < 1 $
Thus, L is within one unit of both $-1$ and $1$. However, there cannot be any such number. A contradiction!
Is this proof okay?
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Here's my attempt:
Suppose there is some $L in mathbbR$ such that $lim_ xto 0 sin frac2pi x = L$. Then, if we let $varepsilon = 1$, there would exist $delta > 0$ such that $left| f(x) - Lright| < 1$ for all $0< |x| < delta $. Now, by the Archimedean property, there is $n in mathbbN$ such that $frac1n < delta $. Pick $x_1 = frac44n+1$ and $x_2 = frac44n+3$ and note that $x_1 , x_2 < delta $. Now for $x_1$, we have
$ left| f(x_1) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+1) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| 1-L right| < 1 $
And similarly
$ left| f(x_2) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+3) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| -1-L right| < 1 $
Thus, L is within one unit of both $-1$ and $1$. However, there cannot be any such number. A contradiction!
Is this proof okay?
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Here's my attempt:
Suppose there is some $L in mathbbR$ such that $lim_ xto 0 sin frac2pi x = L$. Then, if we let $varepsilon = 1$, there would exist $delta > 0$ such that $left| f(x) - Lright| < 1$ for all $0< |x| < delta $. Now, by the Archimedean property, there is $n in mathbbN$ such that $frac1n < delta $. Pick $x_1 = frac44n+1$ and $x_2 = frac44n+3$ and note that $x_1 , x_2 < delta $. Now for $x_1$, we have
$ left| f(x_1) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+1) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| 1-L right| < 1 $
And similarly
$ left| f(x_2) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+3) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| -1-L right| < 1 $
Thus, L is within one unit of both $-1$ and $1$. However, there cannot be any such number. A contradiction!
Is this proof okay?
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asked Aug 24 at 5:07
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The only mistake I can find is that $x_1 , x_2 < delta$ ought to be $0<x_1 , x_2 < delta$. Also, depending on who's grading, "there cannot be such a number" might need some proof or justification. Or it might not. Apart from that, well done!
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Perhaps I think this works: $2 = | (1+L) + (1-L) | le |1+L| + |1-L| < 2$
â Ashish K
Aug 24 at 5:15
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@AshishK That looks like a good way to prove it.
â Arthur
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As an alternative simply note that for $nto infty$
- $x_n=frac4n to 0 implies sin frac2pifrac4n=sin fracpi n2=pm 1$
therefore the given limit doesnâÂÂt exist.
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2 Answers
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active
oldest
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up vote
3
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The only mistake I can find is that $x_1 , x_2 < delta$ ought to be $0<x_1 , x_2 < delta$. Also, depending on who's grading, "there cannot be such a number" might need some proof or justification. Or it might not. Apart from that, well done!
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Perhaps I think this works: $2 = | (1+L) + (1-L) | le |1+L| + |1-L| < 2$
â Ashish K
Aug 24 at 5:15
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@AshishK That looks like a good way to prove it.
â Arthur
Aug 24 at 5:16
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3
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accepted
The only mistake I can find is that $x_1 , x_2 < delta$ ought to be $0<x_1 , x_2 < delta$. Also, depending on who's grading, "there cannot be such a number" might need some proof or justification. Or it might not. Apart from that, well done!
1
Perhaps I think this works: $2 = | (1+L) + (1-L) | le |1+L| + |1-L| < 2$
â Ashish K
Aug 24 at 5:15
1
@AshishK That looks like a good way to prove it.
â Arthur
Aug 24 at 5:16
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up vote
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The only mistake I can find is that $x_1 , x_2 < delta$ ought to be $0<x_1 , x_2 < delta$. Also, depending on who's grading, "there cannot be such a number" might need some proof or justification. Or it might not. Apart from that, well done!
The only mistake I can find is that $x_1 , x_2 < delta$ ought to be $0<x_1 , x_2 < delta$. Also, depending on who's grading, "there cannot be such a number" might need some proof or justification. Or it might not. Apart from that, well done!
edited Aug 24 at 5:17
answered Aug 24 at 5:10
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Perhaps I think this works: $2 = | (1+L) + (1-L) | le |1+L| + |1-L| < 2$
â Ashish K
Aug 24 at 5:15
1
@AshishK That looks like a good way to prove it.
â Arthur
Aug 24 at 5:16
add a comment |Â
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Perhaps I think this works: $2 = | (1+L) + (1-L) | le |1+L| + |1-L| < 2$
â Ashish K
Aug 24 at 5:15
1
@AshishK That looks like a good way to prove it.
â Arthur
Aug 24 at 5:16
1
1
Perhaps I think this works: $2 = | (1+L) + (1-L) | le |1+L| + |1-L| < 2$
â Ashish K
Aug 24 at 5:15
Perhaps I think this works: $2 = | (1+L) + (1-L) | le |1+L| + |1-L| < 2$
â Ashish K
Aug 24 at 5:15
1
1
@AshishK That looks like a good way to prove it.
â Arthur
Aug 24 at 5:16
@AshishK That looks like a good way to prove it.
â Arthur
Aug 24 at 5:16
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3
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As an alternative simply note that for $nto infty$
- $x_n=frac4n to 0 implies sin frac2pifrac4n=sin fracpi n2=pm 1$
therefore the given limit doesnâÂÂt exist.
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
As an alternative simply note that for $nto infty$
- $x_n=frac4n to 0 implies sin frac2pifrac4n=sin fracpi n2=pm 1$
therefore the given limit doesnâÂÂt exist.
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
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As an alternative simply note that for $nto infty$
- $x_n=frac4n to 0 implies sin frac2pifrac4n=sin fracpi n2=pm 1$
therefore the given limit doesnâÂÂt exist.
As an alternative simply note that for $nto infty$
- $x_n=frac4n to 0 implies sin frac2pifrac4n=sin fracpi n2=pm 1$
therefore the given limit doesnâÂÂt exist.
answered Aug 24 at 6:39
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