Proving $lim_ xto 0 sin frac2pi x$ does not exist

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Suppose there is some $L in mathbbR$ such that $lim_ xto 0 sin frac2pi x = L$. Then, if we let $varepsilon = 1$, there would exist $delta > 0$ such that $left| f(x) - Lright| < 1$ for all $0< |x| < delta $. Now, by the Archimedean property, there is $n in mathbbN$ such that $frac1n < delta $. Pick $x_1 = frac44n+1$ and $x_2 = frac44n+3$ and note that $x_1 , x_2 < delta $. Now for $x_1$, we have



$ left| f(x_1) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+1) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| 1-L right| < 1 $



And similarly



$ left| f(x_2) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+3) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| -1-L right| < 1 $



Thus, L is within one unit of both $-1$ and $1$. However, there cannot be any such number. A contradiction!



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    Here's my attempt:



    Suppose there is some $L in mathbbR$ such that $lim_ xto 0 sin frac2pi x = L$. Then, if we let $varepsilon = 1$, there would exist $delta > 0$ such that $left| f(x) - Lright| < 1$ for all $0< |x| < delta $. Now, by the Archimedean property, there is $n in mathbbN$ such that $frac1n < delta $. Pick $x_1 = frac44n+1$ and $x_2 = frac44n+3$ and note that $x_1 , x_2 < delta $. Now for $x_1$, we have



    $ left| f(x_1) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+1) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| 1-L right| < 1 $



    And similarly



    $ left| f(x_2) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+3) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| -1-L right| < 1 $



    Thus, L is within one unit of both $-1$ and $1$. However, there cannot be any such number. A contradiction!



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      Here's my attempt:



      Suppose there is some $L in mathbbR$ such that $lim_ xto 0 sin frac2pi x = L$. Then, if we let $varepsilon = 1$, there would exist $delta > 0$ such that $left| f(x) - Lright| < 1$ for all $0< |x| < delta $. Now, by the Archimedean property, there is $n in mathbbN$ such that $frac1n < delta $. Pick $x_1 = frac44n+1$ and $x_2 = frac44n+3$ and note that $x_1 , x_2 < delta $. Now for $x_1$, we have



      $ left| f(x_1) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+1) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| 1-L right| < 1 $



      And similarly



      $ left| f(x_2) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+3) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| -1-L right| < 1 $



      Thus, L is within one unit of both $-1$ and $1$. However, there cannot be any such number. A contradiction!



      Is this proof okay?







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      Here's my attempt:



      Suppose there is some $L in mathbbR$ such that $lim_ xto 0 sin frac2pi x = L$. Then, if we let $varepsilon = 1$, there would exist $delta > 0$ such that $left| f(x) - Lright| < 1$ for all $0< |x| < delta $. Now, by the Archimedean property, there is $n in mathbbN$ such that $frac1n < delta $. Pick $x_1 = frac44n+1$ and $x_2 = frac44n+3$ and note that $x_1 , x_2 < delta $. Now for $x_1$, we have



      $ left| f(x_1) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+1) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| 1-L right| < 1 $



      And similarly



      $ left| f(x_2) - L right| = left| sin left( (4n+3) fracpi2 -L right) right| = left| -1-L right| < 1 $



      Thus, L is within one unit of both $-1$ and $1$. However, there cannot be any such number. A contradiction!



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          The only mistake I can find is that $x_1 , x_2 < delta$ ought to be $0<x_1 , x_2 < delta$. Also, depending on who's grading, "there cannot be such a number" might need some proof or justification. Or it might not. Apart from that, well done!






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            Perhaps I think this works: $2 = | (1+L) + (1-L) | le |1+L| + |1-L| < 2$
            – Ashish K
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            @AshishK That looks like a good way to prove it.
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          As an alternative simply note that for $nto infty$



          • $x_n=frac4n to 0 implies sin frac2pifrac4n=sin fracpi n2=pm 1$

          therefore the given limit doesn’t exist.






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            The only mistake I can find is that $x_1 , x_2 < delta$ ought to be $0<x_1 , x_2 < delta$. Also, depending on who's grading, "there cannot be such a number" might need some proof or justification. Or it might not. Apart from that, well done!






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              Perhaps I think this works: $2 = | (1+L) + (1-L) | le |1+L| + |1-L| < 2$
              – Ashish K
              Aug 24 at 5:15







            • 1




              @AshishK That looks like a good way to prove it.
              – Arthur
              Aug 24 at 5:16














            up vote
            3
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            accepted










            The only mistake I can find is that $x_1 , x_2 < delta$ ought to be $0<x_1 , x_2 < delta$. Also, depending on who's grading, "there cannot be such a number" might need some proof or justification. Or it might not. Apart from that, well done!






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            • 1




              Perhaps I think this works: $2 = | (1+L) + (1-L) | le |1+L| + |1-L| < 2$
              – Ashish K
              Aug 24 at 5:15







            • 1




              @AshishK That looks like a good way to prove it.
              – Arthur
              Aug 24 at 5:16












            up vote
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            up vote
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            The only mistake I can find is that $x_1 , x_2 < delta$ ought to be $0<x_1 , x_2 < delta$. Also, depending on who's grading, "there cannot be such a number" might need some proof or justification. Or it might not. Apart from that, well done!






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            The only mistake I can find is that $x_1 , x_2 < delta$ ought to be $0<x_1 , x_2 < delta$. Also, depending on who's grading, "there cannot be such a number" might need some proof or justification. Or it might not. Apart from that, well done!







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            answered Aug 24 at 5:10









            Arthur

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              Perhaps I think this works: $2 = | (1+L) + (1-L) | le |1+L| + |1-L| < 2$
              – Ashish K
              Aug 24 at 5:15







            • 1




              @AshishK That looks like a good way to prove it.
              – Arthur
              Aug 24 at 5:16












            • 1




              Perhaps I think this works: $2 = | (1+L) + (1-L) | le |1+L| + |1-L| < 2$
              – Ashish K
              Aug 24 at 5:15







            • 1




              @AshishK That looks like a good way to prove it.
              – Arthur
              Aug 24 at 5:16







            1




            1




            Perhaps I think this works: $2 = | (1+L) + (1-L) | le |1+L| + |1-L| < 2$
            – Ashish K
            Aug 24 at 5:15





            Perhaps I think this works: $2 = | (1+L) + (1-L) | le |1+L| + |1-L| < 2$
            – Ashish K
            Aug 24 at 5:15





            1




            1




            @AshishK That looks like a good way to prove it.
            – Arthur
            Aug 24 at 5:16




            @AshishK That looks like a good way to prove it.
            – Arthur
            Aug 24 at 5:16










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            As an alternative simply note that for $nto infty$



            • $x_n=frac4n to 0 implies sin frac2pifrac4n=sin fracpi n2=pm 1$

            therefore the given limit doesn’t exist.






            share|cite|improve this answer
























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              As an alternative simply note that for $nto infty$



              • $x_n=frac4n to 0 implies sin frac2pifrac4n=sin fracpi n2=pm 1$

              therefore the given limit doesn’t exist.






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                up vote
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                As an alternative simply note that for $nto infty$



                • $x_n=frac4n to 0 implies sin frac2pifrac4n=sin fracpi n2=pm 1$

                therefore the given limit doesn’t exist.






                share|cite|improve this answer












                As an alternative simply note that for $nto infty$



                • $x_n=frac4n to 0 implies sin frac2pifrac4n=sin fracpi n2=pm 1$

                therefore the given limit doesn’t exist.







                share|cite|improve this answer












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